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As a Seychelles cosplayer and role-player, I am very aware of the hate Seychelles receives. I know that there are reasons out there, but are they even reasonable? In this rant, I reveal why the common reasons of hating her barely make any sense. We are all entitled to our opinions, so she may be the most adorable thing ever, or appear to be boring and unappealing to others. Also, I'm not saying that you have to love her, or even like her! But you shouldn't really have to hate her when there are practically no reasons to do so.
The reasons (in order) in this rant are: "She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!", "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!", "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!", "Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!", and "Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
(And yes, this journal may get updated at times.)
-"She gets in the way of yaoi!"
No, she doesn't. I don't see how in the world she gets in the way of it. Does this mean that you hate all the other girls too, or maybe all characters? But really, nobody is getting in the way of yaoi. Did she somehow decrease the production of USUK/FrUK/GerIta etc...? What in the world are you thinking?
Fun-fact: Hetalia is not a yaoi anime.
-"She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
Are you getting that desperate in finding a reason to hate her? Oh, you hate her because she gets in the way of FrUK? So that means America 'gets in the way' of FrUK. Are you going to hate him too? Or maybe you would hate Hungary because she 'gets in the way' of AusPrus? Just learn to ignore a pairing that you don't like, and just search things of the pairing that you do like!
Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia.
-"She is such a bitch!"
I never thought that she ever fit the definition of being that. I looked the word up just to make extra sure that I know what I'm saying here, unlike those who simply toss that term around like it's nothing.
Bitch- A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing; a lewd woman; a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person.
Can you tell me when there was a time when she was ever like any of the terms? If you can't, then why do you even call her that in the first place?
-"She is a whore!"
To be a whore is to be a dissolute and/or promiscuous person. A whore is usually the one who also has sex with many people and such.
If you are calling her a whore because of Gakuen Hetalia, your judgment is definitely off. She never tried to have sex with anyone, nonetheless flirt with them! And it seemed that pretty much nobody had tried to flirt with her either, excluding France. If you think that she's a whore because she 'gets all the men', that's invalid; she never 'gets' the men. At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them, because it's a respectful thing to do. So in your world, possibly being nice to others = whore? Or, being kind = flirting?
To those who have that type of logic: In life, you probably have tried being nice and kind to others, right? If so, call yourself a whore, too. If not, call yourself a hypocrite. If you do not wish to be either of those terms, there is hope. Please refer to this possibility: Do not label Seychelles as a whore.
-"She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!"
Please refer back to the previous rant about titled "She is a whore!". Is it because Seychelles is the one communicating with the characters and not you? Okay, maybe you should just consider yourself jealous- yes, be jealous of a sweet girl.
Come on, must you really be jealous of a character who does not even exist, nonetheless be jealous of her because she talks to characters who also do not exist? Besides, in Gakuen Hetalia, it's actually you being put in the perspective of Seychelles, but you get to make the choices of what she does or not. So in a way, you're still being yourself in the game in a way.
By the way, some people say that Gakuen Hetalia is a 'dating sim'. Okay, maybe it does have the title of it, or something? But it seems to be the type of game that is like, "Let's make friends and make it through school!" type of game, nothing major. At most, you just have daily conversations with the characters and stuff- similar to what you would do in real life.
-"She's a Mary-Sue!"
How would you even know if she is? "She's so perfect!" No, she does have faults and flaws, which you probably did not care to look up. She's a bit of a glutton; she laments about her high cost of living; she does get teased because of her coat of arms, and possibly bullied for other reasons in Gakuen Hetalia; she is not good at cooking, but slightly better than England; she is also insecure about herself at times. And some people say that she's a Mary-Sue because she 'gets all the guys'. Refer back to my two rants of "She is a whore" and/or "She gets all the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!".
There are several different types of Mary-Sues, but I'll give the general definitions.
Mary-Sue: A fictional character, usually female and especially in fan-fiction, whose implausible talents and likableness weaken the story; they are perfect with their fashion, looks, beauty, intelligence, strength, social skills, and/or power.
In my opinion, Seychelles is very adorable in her designs! She can be smart at times, but a bit clumsy too. And her social skills, like I said, she tries to be nice to others. If she's nice to others, it makes sense for others to be nice to her. Even then, she does get teased, so her social skills are not perfect.
-"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Then you probably hate Spain and Turkey, yes?
In the first four seasons of Hetalia, characters like Seychelles, Spain, and Turkey were very white. That was because of Studio DEEN's previous director and staff. Since there are now a new director and staff members, the characters now have their original skin color in season 5. Besides, Himaruya did design Seychelles to have tan skin. Also, apparently it's known that Himaruya does not always stick to the same shade color for skin, so her skin color may vary from a light tan to medium tan to dark. Drawings of Seychelles by Himaruya -> images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… images5.fanpop.com/image/photo… images6.fanpop.com/image/photo… (And I tried to find that scan of Seychelles in the manga where she's wearing her school uniform. It's in a colored page. If anyone finds what I'm talking about, I'll be happy to include it!)
-"She gets paired up with EVERYONE!"
Why must that matter so much to you? England, Prussia, America, France etc...and lots of other countries are paired up with several other characters/countries/humans. On the contrary, the most popular ships Seychelles is involved in are EnglandXSeychelles and FranceXSeychelles. But one of the most popular ships overall are, for example, USUK, FrUK, and EnglandXJapan. Interesting, a lot of people do love England, but I never heard anyone complain how he's paired up a lot. (And yes, I really do like England too. This is not meant to bash him by any means, but to only make a point across.)
Fact: The fandom pairs up lots of characters with each other.
If you do not like that^ fact, the frustration should not be aimed at the character; and instead, rethink if you really wish to be part of a fandom that pairs up characters often.
Fact: A lot of Hetalia characters get paired up with a lot of Hetalia characters. (What a big surprise!)
To hate Seychelles for being paired up with others...well, look at all the other characters.
-"She's a FEMALE."
Can you please provide a reason why this is a wonderful excuse to hate Seychelles? First you have to be hater, and now be a bit of a sexist? Then perhaps you hate Hungary, and Liechtenstein, and any other female characters just because they have a womanhood? I can get into deeper details on why this is wrong on so many levels, but I rather not.
Ironically, the majority of the Hetalia fandom are females! "Is a female; hates female characters."
-"She's an island!"
What kind of reason is that? Contrary to belief, Seychelles is not an island, but an archipelago(basically a chain of islands. Still, get your facts straight). Why aim your frustrations at a character just because he/she represents an island or archipelago country?
Okay, well I never heard of any reasons to hate Japan, Taiwan, England, Iceland etc... just because they are island countries.
-"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Firstly, Seychelles' personality is basically: bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice. I suggest learning more about Seychelles's history and personality before using this reason to hate her.
If you understand Seychelles' history and personality, and you still hate her for how she is portrayed, could it be because she appears OOC(out of character)? If so, remember that it's the Author's doing; if you know for a fact that the real Seychelles would not act like that, perhaps you should try finding better fanfictions that portray her better and ignore the bad fanfictions?
-"Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!"
Just because a character is a minor character, that doesn't mean that the character is useless or unnecessary. Hetalia is basically a world of personified countries, and even micronations! Sure, Seychelles was neither in Axis nor Allies, but she is still a country. Because she is a country with history with some of the other characters, such as being raised by France etc... she does have at least some importance. She may not have as much appearances compared to the main cast, but she can still be useful. Besides, there are other countries/micronations characters who are still a part of Hetalia who have even less screen-time than Seychelles, such as Australia, Principality of Wy, Romania etc..
-"Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
Think of it like this: Seychelles is known because she was in the Hetalia game Gakeun Hetalia, which is very popular. She gets to have a few appearances in the manga. She was known as being a popular Hetalia character who got white-washed at first. And also, she's a well-known Hetalia character to receive hate- and because of the hate, some people joined the fan-base in order to give Seychelles more positive attention. Eventually, things add up to why her fan-base may appear big-- but certainly not as big as the other characters.
Besides, there are some characters who did less than Seychelles and did not do much in the anime, yet their fan-base is bigger than Seychelles', such as Hong Kong.
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Comments: 322
FallOfSpaceAndTime In reply to ??? [2014-01-02 00:08:38 +0000 UTC]
I think Seychelles is portrayed nicely and she is really pretty. I mean she's pretty likable if you ask me, but I'm just not really a big fan of her.
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LanternKeeper14 [2013-12-29 06:46:40 +0000 UTC]
I can understand what you mean. I mean, while I certainly don't hate Sey, she isn't my favorite either. :/
Just because her personality isn't my favorite type. Haha, sorry. I'm not hating. I'm just a big fan of tsundere personalities.
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IndegoFireheart In reply to ??? [2013-10-17 05:13:46 +0000 UTC]
Finally, someone speaks the truth! By the way, i see Sey as a shippable character that the CREATOR HIMSELF gave permission to. That does not make her a "Mary Sue" or whatever that stupid name h8ters give her for being shipped, I see her as a LIKEABLE character. Is it me, or are they jealous much? And by the way, she's a fictional character.
Seriously, those people need to get a life. #h8ters gonna h8
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AnonymousWriter228 In reply to ??? [2013-10-12 00:06:02 +0000 UTC]
I don't like Seychelles, but i don't hate her. I mean like you said she is bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice and I just never really get into those type characters because I have a really dark sense of humor.
And before everyone goes "Sexist yaoi fangirl" on me, may I say Taiwan, Belarus (my #1), and Hungary are some of my favorite characters.
But I do agree most of her haters do it for a silly reason. I mean getting in the way of yaoi... that is why we have fanfiction. I mean I ship FrUK but I have a headcanon. And it freaks me out they pair her with France and England both raised her I mean I don't do incest pairings I don't ship USUK, Franda, or any of the pairings like brother/brother or brother/sister.
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SaeLinLee In reply to ??? [2013-09-19 11:11:58 +0000 UTC]
You, dear, certainly deserve an award.
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SaeLinLee In reply to LauraDanger [2013-10-09 12:10:16 +0000 UTC]
You're most welcome dear!
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Coldtyk In reply to ??? [2013-09-17 20:03:41 +0000 UTC]
*GLOMPS* OH MY GOSH THANK YOU
FINALLY, A PERSON THAT KNOWS WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT. AND THAT SEYCHELLES HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG!
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MrNere88 In reply to ??? [2013-09-14 11:38:50 +0000 UTC]
Thanks Laura *Claps*
And...oh,the pairings topic. I consider her as the little sister of the FACES family,literally...
As a yuri fangirl,loving shipping her with Liechtenstein or Wy...and in the hetero side,with India~~
If I could dislike a Hetalia character for the pairings topic (But I can't because I love all of them) that would be England too ._.
So I agree with you in all of this journal..and I'll cosplay Seychelles this year c:
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LauraDanger In reply to MrNere88 [2013-09-14 13:23:24 +0000 UTC]
xD Thanks! And yush, I love the idea of FACES. Plus in that case, she would be the only female and the only one with brunette hair, unlike the rest who have blond hair. xP
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Julie-Denka In reply to LauraDanger [2014-02-06 00:54:17 +0000 UTC]
Wait nvm ignore what I said LOL I thought you mean she is the only female who has brown hair. LOL
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LauraDanger In reply to Julie-Denka [2014-02-06 23:01:41 +0000 UTC]
xD Silly~ I know that there are many brunette-haired female characters in Hetalia. xP
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Julie-Denka In reply to LauraDanger [2014-02-07 02:48:50 +0000 UTC]
Lol I feel like an idiot XD
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Julie-Denka In reply to LauraDanger [2014-02-06 00:53:47 +0000 UTC]
...Hungary is a brunette...
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matomin [2013-09-13 01:31:02 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU. Seychelles is an awesome, sweet, and an overall great character and I don't see anything wrong with her. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that way
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LauraDanger In reply to matomin [2013-10-03 16:12:54 +0000 UTC]
Agreed. ; u ; I just really see her as a cutie. =u=
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MoonlightXdensetsu [2013-09-11 23:27:34 +0000 UTC]
Fun fact; Dark skin characters anime ftw! And seychelles is thereby crowned queen of the dark skinned anime characters. I mean here's the list;
Akito & anthy from Kakumei shoujo utena
Archer from Fate stay night
Kaola Su from Love hina
Urd from O my goddess
Basillio & Flavia from Fire emblem Awakening (anime ish game)
(this isn't an anime but an amazing visual novel) 'A' from Shiei no sona nyl What a beautiful memorie
Nadia from secret of the blue water <<< totally recommended anime
Shion from Please save my earth
Yoruichi from bleach
Caska from Berserk
Black rose from .hack
Blue from wolf's rain
the list goes on... but yeah. seychelles is the queen nuff said. she's too cute and awesome. i picture her to be like Hiyoko Tousaka from hatoful boyfriend... dunno why XD
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LauraDanger In reply to MoonlightXdensetsu [2013-09-11 23:53:39 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, I think any characters, regardless of skincolor, ftw! =u= But yes, she's cute~
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MoonlightXdensetsu In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-12 01:07:28 +0000 UTC]
bu but dark skin colour looks so vibrant, i wish sometimes my skin was darker XD but yeah doesn't matter you're right any character ftw!
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yaGrlelyse001 In reply to ??? [2013-09-11 20:10:09 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU THANK YOU i applaud you , you young education woman i girl myself i loves hetalia and yaoi but not the hate of Seychelles and last time i check the anime/manga was meant for young MEN not crazy screaming girls and i basically ship everyone cause i don't care who's with who despite gender and history of actual countries and don't see any favoritism in any fandom but Disney really. but believe it or not i'm straight but when she's around other's being paired with her i get bit jealous of them not her , but can always share and refrained myself! (except from England and France lol) and it's the FIRST TIME that i felt feelings for a girl (i hope you don't get freaked out or anything if so sorry) .when she was white washed i wasn't mad or hated her for it just agitated the lack for research and logic and that old crew probably not know they are mostly dark-skin people of that actual country [www.google.com/imgres?q=seyche… [www.google.com/imgres?q=seyche…
same with other countries who should have been having a tan complexion (Turkey,Greece,Spain,Egypt,Romano/South Italy) but are legitimately other African countries like her were not [www.google.com/imgres?q=aph+af… [www.google.com/imgres?q=aph+af…
but i don't care who cosplay's her ANYONE can cosplay who they want i don't care for cosplay just the anime itself (MIGHT I SAY I LOVE IT WHEN YOU COSPLAY HER!!) even though they're only landmasses,cities,towns,micro-nations,islands,etc. have some accuracy in them (not bashing on you for your links or any specific race group just people who fanarting her the wrong shade and people making OC's that are not suppose to be white/Caucasian) but according to the new season they got every thing right.
(i'm African American)
But for the haters; STOP making these damn excuses to hate her or any other character PERIOD!!! reason why half of the fandom love her because WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(sorry if i cussed too much or if my links didn't show up)
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LauraDanger In reply to yaGrlelyse001 [2013-10-03 16:12:13 +0000 UTC]
I heard that the reason why the old animation group for Hetalia whitewashed the majority of characters was to make everyone neutral. I would have accepted that a bit better if they did that to all the characters, but they didn't (like Cuba for example)-- and if that was okay with Himaruya. But otherwise, Himaruya has given the characters different skin tones, with Seychelles as a more tan-brown complexion, Spain and Greece with a lighter tan complexion etc.. But really, at the end, the character designs were by Himaruya.
xD And thank you~
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sindysugar [2013-09-11 17:53:11 +0000 UTC]
Seychelle's haters should read this....boy will they feel stupid...
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SyedSultana In reply to ??? [2013-09-11 02:37:07 +0000 UTC]
I have to agree with Everything you said
Thank you soooooo much for speaking up
And finally a person who agrees that hetalia is not a yaoi anime
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LauraDanger In reply to SyedSultana [2013-09-11 02:48:45 +0000 UTC]
Yup yup! o3o
Besides, when did Himaruya ever say that Hetalia is definitely a yaoi anime and meant it? XP
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yaGrlelyse001 In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-11 20:13:43 +0000 UTC]
obviously that was sarcasm from him lol
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SyedSultana In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-11 03:07:11 +0000 UTC]
I know right
I swear I feel like the yaoi loving fangirls are ruining hetalia for all the fans who don't like yaoi
Because every time I search for a hetalia fanfic I always see it
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Kal-a-Cas In reply to SyedSultana [2013-09-11 05:25:10 +0000 UTC]
If this was Facebook or Insta, I would totally like this comment!
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Fantasy-Fashionista In reply to ??? [2013-09-11 00:41:06 +0000 UTC]
Seychelles is awesome. Hating her is pathetic. She's done nothing wrong. And besides...she's FICTIONAL. (The character, not country/island. xD)
Thanks for this, this what Seychelles haters needed: A wake-up call.
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LauraDanger In reply to Fantasy-Fashionista [2013-09-11 02:50:31 +0000 UTC]
Exactly! x.x Oi...to have strong, negative feelings for a character that does not exist, hmm... ._.
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Fantasy-Fashionista In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-11 02:53:19 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, no, it's pathetic. There are very few characters I don't like very much, but at least I try to keep the dislike to myself as much as possible. Character bashing is a waste of time. -.-
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Kal-a-Cas In reply to ??? [2013-09-10 05:29:05 +0000 UTC]
GOD DAYUM FINALLY! Someone has a voice to speak out against the hate that this lovely, pretty girl is receiving! I love Seychelles! She is such a cute, polite, and adorable character. Idk why there are such haters out there, I mean SHE IS A CHARACTER!
And I didn't know about the skin color thing?! Wow... I have family that is dark skinned, so what they are gonna hate them too?
Stupid racist crazy b*tches; I absolutely hate unfairness of any kind ESPECIALLY if its on skin color.
THANK YOU for writing this; I greatly appreciate it. (and sorry for my mini rant but I have had too much personal experience with hate to contain my opinion it any longer)
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LauraDanger In reply to Kal-a-Cas [2013-09-11 03:07:39 +0000 UTC]
Some people are /still/ upset that she is not the stereotyped as being very dark- even though her skintone in season 5 of the anime is pretty much similar to her recent designs in the manga by Himaruya.
Though, I don't think it should be exactly something for everyone to get overly antsy about. Not every African country has the same darkness/lightness of skintones. In fact, looking at the ancestries, I can see Seychelles being one of the lightest skinned characters out of Africa- but of course, do to climate and ancestry, I can see her having the skintone that she already has.
And although some people think that the characters should have the stereotyped skin color, but I am sorry to say...but is it for a person to imply that all Prussians are pale white or albino? Or if this stereotype still exists, that Asians should be colored on the more yellow-ish side in the anime?
But really, at the end, these are Himaruya's characters.
But of course! <3
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Kal-a-Cas In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-11 05:23:56 +0000 UTC]
I know but finally someone who gets it! Thank you! <333
For me Hetalia is Hetalia, and skin color should not be a factor to hate someone.
And lol those Prussians :3 (I love his character... and Gilbird )
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kyuzoaoi In reply to ??? [2013-09-10 01:27:59 +0000 UTC]
I fear that Seychelles-bashing is going too far...and it's like the case in the real world where when Japan won a finals against America in a soccer match, many said that because Japanese soccer players are mutants, because of Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima, etc...
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PurpleWolfArt In reply to ??? [2013-09-10 00:34:14 +0000 UTC]
(I agree with your rant because it's not fair that Syechelles deserves the hatred by fangirls, not all female characters should be hated just because of yaoi! I mean Taiwian (did i spell that right?) gets hated as well because of China and Japan...)
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LauraDanger In reply to PurpleWolfArt [2013-09-11 02:58:44 +0000 UTC]
I know that people can have their preferences, but sometimes it can go as far as being hypocritical. ._.
Mhm, Like Seychelles is to France/England, as Taiwan is to China/Japan, Belgium to Spain/Romano, and Wy to Sealand/Seborga for example.
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PurpleWolfArt In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-11 14:59:31 +0000 UTC]
(Wy to Sealand/Seborga?)
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LauraDanger In reply to PurpleWolfArt [2013-09-11 19:32:48 +0000 UTC]
She is pretty commonly paired up with them.
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RoxyStripes In reply to ??? [2013-09-03 22:44:07 +0000 UTC]
you and me both. Seychelles deserves 0 hate i actually want to live there when I'm older and i must admit i hated her for a short while until i realized "I have no reason to hate her" THERE IS NO REASON TO HATE LOVELY SEYCHELLES.
#nohateonseychellesplz2013
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LauraDanger In reply to RoxyStripes [2013-09-11 02:52:44 +0000 UTC]
xD Yay~! Besides, it's nice to like a character, and then you're more able to find the good characteristics. And then, the good characteristics will possibly overshadow any existing bad characteristics. ouo
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