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As a Seychelles cosplayer and role-player, I am very aware of the hate Seychelles receives. I know that there are reasons out there, but are they even reasonable? In this rant, I reveal why the common reasons of hating her barely make any sense. We are all entitled to our opinions, so she may be the most adorable thing ever, or appear to be boring and unappealing to others. Also, I'm not saying that you have to love her, or even like her! But you shouldn't really have to hate her when there are practically no reasons to do so.
The reasons (in order) in this rant are: "She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!", "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!", "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!", "Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!", and "Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
(And yes, this journal may get updated at times.)
-"She gets in the way of yaoi!"
No, she doesn't. I don't see how in the world she gets in the way of it. Does this mean that you hate all the other girls too, or maybe all characters? But really, nobody is getting in the way of yaoi. Did she somehow decrease the production of USUK/FrUK/GerIta etc...? What in the world are you thinking?
Fun-fact: Hetalia is not a yaoi anime.
-"She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
Are you getting that desperate in finding a reason to hate her? Oh, you hate her because she gets in the way of FrUK? So that means America 'gets in the way' of FrUK. Are you going to hate him too? Or maybe you would hate Hungary because she 'gets in the way' of AusPrus? Just learn to ignore a pairing that you don't like, and just search things of the pairing that you do like!
Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia.
-"She is such a bitch!"
I never thought that she ever fit the definition of being that. I looked the word up just to make extra sure that I know what I'm saying here, unlike those who simply toss that term around like it's nothing.
Bitch- A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing; a lewd woman; a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person.
Can you tell me when there was a time when she was ever like any of the terms? If you can't, then why do you even call her that in the first place?
-"She is a whore!"
To be a whore is to be a dissolute and/or promiscuous person. A whore is usually the one who also has sex with many people and such.
If you are calling her a whore because of Gakuen Hetalia, your judgment is definitely off. She never tried to have sex with anyone, nonetheless flirt with them! And it seemed that pretty much nobody had tried to flirt with her either, excluding France. If you think that she's a whore because she 'gets all the men', that's invalid; she never 'gets' the men. At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them, because it's a respectful thing to do. So in your world, possibly being nice to others = whore? Or, being kind = flirting?
To those who have that type of logic: In life, you probably have tried being nice and kind to others, right? If so, call yourself a whore, too. If not, call yourself a hypocrite. If you do not wish to be either of those terms, there is hope. Please refer to this possibility: Do not label Seychelles as a whore.
-"She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!"
Please refer back to the previous rant about titled "She is a whore!". Is it because Seychelles is the one communicating with the characters and not you? Okay, maybe you should just consider yourself jealous- yes, be jealous of a sweet girl.
Come on, must you really be jealous of a character who does not even exist, nonetheless be jealous of her because she talks to characters who also do not exist? Besides, in Gakuen Hetalia, it's actually you being put in the perspective of Seychelles, but you get to make the choices of what she does or not. So in a way, you're still being yourself in the game in a way.
By the way, some people say that Gakuen Hetalia is a 'dating sim'. Okay, maybe it does have the title of it, or something? But it seems to be the type of game that is like, "Let's make friends and make it through school!" type of game, nothing major. At most, you just have daily conversations with the characters and stuff- similar to what you would do in real life.
-"She's a Mary-Sue!"
How would you even know if she is? "She's so perfect!" No, she does have faults and flaws, which you probably did not care to look up. She's a bit of a glutton; she laments about her high cost of living; she does get teased because of her coat of arms, and possibly bullied for other reasons in Gakuen Hetalia; she is not good at cooking, but slightly better than England; she is also insecure about herself at times. And some people say that she's a Mary-Sue because she 'gets all the guys'. Refer back to my two rants of "She is a whore" and/or "She gets all the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!".
There are several different types of Mary-Sues, but I'll give the general definitions.
Mary-Sue: A fictional character, usually female and especially in fan-fiction, whose implausible talents and likableness weaken the story; they are perfect with their fashion, looks, beauty, intelligence, strength, social skills, and/or power.
In my opinion, Seychelles is very adorable in her designs! She can be smart at times, but a bit clumsy too. And her social skills, like I said, she tries to be nice to others. If she's nice to others, it makes sense for others to be nice to her. Even then, she does get teased, so her social skills are not perfect.
-"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Then you probably hate Spain and Turkey, yes?
In the first four seasons of Hetalia, characters like Seychelles, Spain, and Turkey were very white. That was because of Studio DEEN's previous director and staff. Since there are now a new director and staff members, the characters now have their original skin color in season 5. Besides, Himaruya did design Seychelles to have tan skin. Also, apparently it's known that Himaruya does not always stick to the same shade color for skin, so her skin color may vary from a light tan to medium tan to dark. Drawings of Seychelles by Himaruya -> images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… images5.fanpop.com/image/photo… images6.fanpop.com/image/photo… (And I tried to find that scan of Seychelles in the manga where she's wearing her school uniform. It's in a colored page. If anyone finds what I'm talking about, I'll be happy to include it!)
-"She gets paired up with EVERYONE!"
Why must that matter so much to you? England, Prussia, America, France etc...and lots of other countries are paired up with several other characters/countries/humans. On the contrary, the most popular ships Seychelles is involved in are EnglandXSeychelles and FranceXSeychelles. But one of the most popular ships overall are, for example, USUK, FrUK, and EnglandXJapan. Interesting, a lot of people do love England, but I never heard anyone complain how he's paired up a lot. (And yes, I really do like England too. This is not meant to bash him by any means, but to only make a point across.)
Fact: The fandom pairs up lots of characters with each other.
If you do not like that^ fact, the frustration should not be aimed at the character; and instead, rethink if you really wish to be part of a fandom that pairs up characters often.
Fact: A lot of Hetalia characters get paired up with a lot of Hetalia characters. (What a big surprise!)
To hate Seychelles for being paired up with others...well, look at all the other characters.
-"She's a FEMALE."
Can you please provide a reason why this is a wonderful excuse to hate Seychelles? First you have to be hater, and now be a bit of a sexist? Then perhaps you hate Hungary, and Liechtenstein, and any other female characters just because they have a womanhood? I can get into deeper details on why this is wrong on so many levels, but I rather not.
Ironically, the majority of the Hetalia fandom are females! "Is a female; hates female characters."
-"She's an island!"
What kind of reason is that? Contrary to belief, Seychelles is not an island, but an archipelago(basically a chain of islands. Still, get your facts straight). Why aim your frustrations at a character just because he/she represents an island or archipelago country?
Okay, well I never heard of any reasons to hate Japan, Taiwan, England, Iceland etc... just because they are island countries.
-"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Firstly, Seychelles' personality is basically: bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice. I suggest learning more about Seychelles's history and personality before using this reason to hate her.
If you understand Seychelles' history and personality, and you still hate her for how she is portrayed, could it be because she appears OOC(out of character)? If so, remember that it's the Author's doing; if you know for a fact that the real Seychelles would not act like that, perhaps you should try finding better fanfictions that portray her better and ignore the bad fanfictions?
-"Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!"
Just because a character is a minor character, that doesn't mean that the character is useless or unnecessary. Hetalia is basically a world of personified countries, and even micronations! Sure, Seychelles was neither in Axis nor Allies, but she is still a country. Because she is a country with history with some of the other characters, such as being raised by France etc... she does have at least some importance. She may not have as much appearances compared to the main cast, but she can still be useful. Besides, there are other countries/micronations characters who are still a part of Hetalia who have even less screen-time than Seychelles, such as Australia, Principality of Wy, Romania etc..
-"Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
Think of it like this: Seychelles is known because she was in the Hetalia game Gakeun Hetalia, which is very popular. She gets to have a few appearances in the manga. She was known as being a popular Hetalia character who got white-washed at first. And also, she's a well-known Hetalia character to receive hate- and because of the hate, some people joined the fan-base in order to give Seychelles more positive attention. Eventually, things add up to why her fan-base may appear big-- but certainly not as big as the other characters.
Besides, there are some characters who did less than Seychelles and did not do much in the anime, yet their fan-base is bigger than Seychelles', such as Hong Kong.
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Comments: 322
CartoonPrincess15 In reply to ??? [2013-09-03 15:52:18 +0000 UTC]
I never knew people hated Sey-chan so much. I like her. I love all the characters in Hetalia. And I support yaoi, hetero, pairings in Hetalia (girls pairings are okay too, but I usually like to pair girls in a best friend way).
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LauraDanger In reply to CartoonPrincess15 [2013-09-11 02:57:02 +0000 UTC]
I was somewhat surprised too about the hate- then again, I always thought "Oh dear, she's the main character of an apparent 'dating sim' of a popular show, let's see....*Instant hate* I hate being right."
But it's pretty sad that she gets the amount of hate that she gets. I can unfortunately assure you that the majority of polls like "Least favorite character" or "Most hated character" and if Seychelles is mentioned, she would be in first place. ._. I've already checked them.
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fairytailrox98 [2013-09-03 15:29:47 +0000 UTC]
I agree with this so much. I'm not a big fan of hers myself, but there's no reason to bash on her!
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thenotsoepicalisaur In reply to ??? [2013-08-31 02:49:34 +0000 UTC]
Okay, so I rp Seychelles. It almost made me cry on how people treat her!
I know, everyone has their own opinions, but we can't use our opinions to hurt other people's feelings. For example, you can't beat me up all just because I like the color green and someone else likes pink! Whether the person/character is real or not, please don't hurt their feelings.
Also, it's the author's doing, not Seychelles'. It isn't nice how you just judge her because she's paired with someone. I know, I dislike some pairings, too. But don't blame Seychelles! The author was the one who decided to make the story.
Seychelles gets in the way of your yaoi? No, she does not. Again, it is the author's doing. I'm an EXCEPTIONALLY CRAZY YAOI FANGIRL. However, she isn't the one who is the line between America and England.
This is just a mini rant comment. Don't mind me, please.
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LauraDanger In reply to thenotsoepicalisaur [2013-09-11 02:51:18 +0000 UTC]
xD Pretty much all that, true~
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Xx--MsBrightside--xX In reply to ??? [2013-08-16 19:10:09 +0000 UTC]
This is the biggest reason I wanna punch someone in the throat..
B-tches are getting crazier. -.-'
I asked a friend who is in love likes a boy character..
I asked her why she hates Sey, and she called her a 'whore' country.
When in all, all of them are 'whore' countries.
I think I just might throw the fandom out the window.
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LauraDanger In reply to Xx--MsBrightside--xX [2013-09-11 02:54:48 +0000 UTC]
Oh dear. Well, I hope that you will meet more people who are actually sensible enough to be like that. :<
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Gracelen In reply to ??? [2013-08-04 14:55:48 +0000 UTC]
Ugh, As a Seychelles RPer I always liked her and all my friends.. (yaoi fangirls) Hate me because they claim she's a "mary sue taking away all of their yaoi boyfriends"
It's probably also why I have pretty much given up at hetalia and left the fandom :c
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LauraDanger In reply to Gracelen [2013-09-11 02:53:40 +0000 UTC]
I can say the same. Though, I haven't exactly left the fandom only because I know some awesome people, so there's hope. However, a lot of the people just...*Shudders* e-e
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Gracelen In reply to LauraDanger [2013-09-18 00:51:37 +0000 UTC]
I know, Some of my bffs are still the normal fandom people, But once you search hetalia on google images, What you see can never be unseen. o-e
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FreckleLemonade In reply to ??? [2013-08-01 22:16:16 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Ohmygosh, I loved this! xD
I like Seychelles and I could never understand why she receives so much hate. ;n;
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LauraDanger In reply to FreckleLemonade [2013-08-02 23:18:02 +0000 UTC]
Yay~! XD You're welcome :U
And yeah. ;;
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Helsinki-az-nyugat In reply to ??? [2013-08-01 21:10:21 +0000 UTC]
oh my God, you're absolutely right! people are loosing their mind, or I dunno what happens...I love Seychelles, I think, she's the favorite Hetalia girl of mine, next to Hungary(my mother country, you can understand ) but please, people??? fanfictions have nothing to do with the original Sey'. why do people get fanfiction as canon? one of the reasons why I don't read fanfics...maybe?
and also the pairing fights. I can't stand those, I am a FrUK shipper and I find USUK everywhere, I don't want to search anything, anymore, because I can't find the art I'm searching for. and yes, Seychelles fell into the same trap: I want a picture of her, only her, and I find nothing, but shippings what shall I do, cut the half of it?
poor girl just appeared and they already hate her. ((sometimes, or in the most of the time, they almost know nothing about her!)) and the fan-base, another journal >w>'
finally somebody is not afraid to tell the truth! ^o^
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LauraDanger In reply to Helsinki-az-nyugat [2013-08-02 23:20:10 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! <3 Ah, there are also some writers who do not know a character well enough, so they just improv a character's personality. Either it works out, or no :/ Oh well D:
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Helsinki-az-nyugat In reply to LauraDanger [2013-08-04 17:25:58 +0000 UTC]
I know...or taking out of character >> I always say, then, create an OC instead D: <
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milkcosmos In reply to ??? [2013-08-01 17:50:03 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU FOR THIS!
Jeez, some people these days -.-
Personally, I like Seychelles because I think she's a cute girl and has fairly nice personality.
I sort of ship her with Canadurr
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LauraDanger In reply to milkcosmos [2013-08-01 18:16:14 +0000 UTC]
Of course! o3o And I agree. ;u; Aww~~
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JustALazyPerson In reply to ??? [2013-07-29 20:37:36 +0000 UTC]
You, friend, deserve an award.
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Rin-Semegran In reply to ??? [2013-07-25 23:51:06 +0000 UTC]
Seychelles is such a loving character! She is bubbly and cute! How can she be hated?!
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LauraDanger In reply to Rin-Semegran [2013-08-01 17:22:23 +0000 UTC]
Isn't she? ;u; But still, these apparent 'reasons' that are in my journal, nnn..
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lovelydisaster112 In reply to Rin-Semegran [2013-07-28 07:59:03 +0000 UTC]
Agree. To be honest with you, I used to hate Seychelles before but one thing that made me like her was the real meaning of Hetalia
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Rin-Semegran In reply to lovelydisaster112 [2013-07-28 12:40:10 +0000 UTC]
Same here. But when I was truly starting to like all the characters, that's when I started feeling bad for her.
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LittleAngel321 [2013-07-25 03:01:15 +0000 UTC]
I love Seychelles! She's a cute character and she's amazing in her unique ways.
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EuroDisneyKitty In reply to ??? [2013-07-18 17:01:11 +0000 UTC]
Oh mah god girl AMEN! ;D I think it's so stupid and funny how some fans hate on her, and I don't like saying this but come on its just a show, chill its not gonna kill you if England starts going out with her! I'm like chill out ppl geez! XD I love Sey! And girl I'm glad you said that hetalia is not a yaoi anime, fans just made up the whole America x England or whatever
and I really don't care I have no problem with that but come on,,,,she's not real! Just chill out dudes! X3 Idc what ppl say I'm a Seychelles lover till the end!
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LauraDanger In reply to EuroDisneyKitty [2013-07-18 22:43:29 +0000 UTC]
There are lots of likable traits that Seychelles has. =u= It's nice to relate to some of them as well.
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EuroDisneyKitty In reply to LauraDanger [2013-07-19 03:57:30 +0000 UTC]
right? I her X3 shes so cute!
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Symphano In reply to ??? [2013-07-18 01:43:51 +0000 UTC]
I love this and I haven't even READ it.
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LuckyCat1212 In reply to ??? [2013-07-13 14:38:21 +0000 UTC]
I once use to dislike her, yet when I saw so many people hating her for very silly reasons and so I thought over the reason why I disliked her it was senseless to dislike her just because of EnglandXSeychelles. Seychelles was the only character that I could cosplay because of the skin tone.
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LauraDanger In reply to LuckyCat1212 [2013-07-18 22:41:39 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, sometimes the hate can become rather out of hand at times. :/
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Ally-Pop-Candii In reply to ??? [2013-07-07 23:52:39 +0000 UTC]
I AGREE WITH YOU SO MUCH!!! YOU SIR GET A WATCHER!! Also, if its fine i'm gonna copy and paste this and put this in one of my journals! ^^
SEYCHELLES FOREVER! <3
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LauraDanger In reply to Ally-Pop-Candii [2013-07-08 02:22:55 +0000 UTC]
Why thank you~ =3=
And well, if you're going to copy/paste it, please give credit and link back to my original journal.
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HRExChibitaliaGerita In reply to ??? [2013-07-04 13:57:56 +0000 UTC]
*sigh* There's always at least one character in every series I find that gets all the hate for the reasons you mentioned... In Kingdom Hearts, it's Xion, in Fullmetal Alchemist, it's Rose, and now in Hetalia, it's Seychelles.
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LauraDanger In reply to HRExChibitaliaGerita [2013-07-08 02:22:11 +0000 UTC]
And since I'm familiar with both Kingdom Hearts and FMA, I sadly have to agree. x-x Uuugghh
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Kitsuneechan In reply to ??? [2013-07-02 08:49:23 +0000 UTC]
If you ask me people are sometimes idiots
(sorry i came across this and had to answer sorry)
I personally love Seychelles. I will be cosplaying her at AnimeExpo
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LauraDanger In reply to Kitsuneechan [2013-07-03 17:47:20 +0000 UTC]
Some are, while I do find a good amount of them to being just ignorant too.
Though honestly, I can relate to her at a good amount. Hm~ It's nostalgic, but still with mixed feelings. :/
Regardless of the fandom, I wish to continue cosplaying her. =u= And it's also like, regardless of how the character is perceived by the fandom, one can still choose to cosplay >insert character<.
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Kitsuneechan In reply to LauraDanger [2013-07-06 05:24:17 +0000 UTC]
I agree and I will keep cosplaying her to and sorry for the late reply been busy so now that I am at the con I have time
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KuroSama2 In reply to ??? [2013-06-21 18:16:12 +0000 UTC]
Why would someone hate a character for there skin color?! the reason she's one of my favorites is because she is so dark!
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LauraDanger In reply to KuroSama2 [2013-06-21 18:23:10 +0000 UTC]
Besides, her skin tone is already like, a nice tan/light brown, which can be seen in episode 16 of season 5. I mean, maybe people want her to be darker than what Himaruya wanted for her? :/ Though, just because Seychelles is an African country, does not mean that the character is going to be exactly dark. *Shrugs*
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AnzhelinaMenshutkin In reply to ??? [2013-06-15 01:32:32 +0000 UTC]
Um. question: May I like copy and paste this to my Journal? (So we can spread the word THAT SEYCHELLES IS NONE OF THOSE BAD WORDS!!!!!) And every time I draw Sey in school, my friend Sanaa said, 'I thought she was rude and selfish.' I was like, 'SHE IS NOT!!! SHE'S JUST A GIRL WHO CAN'T EVEN DO STUFF CUASE SHE LOST ALL HER CONFENDICE!!! SHE'S REALLY JUST LOOKING FOR FRIENDS!!! SHE'S ACTUALLY REALLY NICE AND I THINK SHE'S TOO CUTE TO BE RUDE!!!' Sanaa just back up.
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LauraDanger In reply to AnzhelinaMenshutkin [2013-07-03 17:40:35 +0000 UTC]
As long as you credit me and put the original link directed to my journal, you can.
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AnzhelinaMenshutkin In reply to LauraDanger [2013-07-03 17:44:48 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much!!! Ich liebe dich!!!! Sorry, i'm practicing German.
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AnzhelinaMenshutkin In reply to ??? [2013-06-01 23:34:01 +0000 UTC]
I used to hate Seychelles, but now, I love her.
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LauraDanger In reply to AnzhelinaMenshutkin [2013-06-02 00:46:46 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad that you love her now! ;u; She's a sweetie.
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