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As a Seychelles cosplayer and role-player, I am very aware of the hate Seychelles receives. I know that there are reasons out there, but are they even reasonable? In this rant, I reveal why the common reasons of hating her barely make any sense. We are all entitled to our opinions, so she may be the most adorable thing ever, or appear to be boring and unappealing to others. Also, I'm not saying that you have to love her, or even like her! But you shouldn't really have to hate  her when there are practically no reasons to do so.

The reasons (in order) in this rant are: "She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!",  "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!", "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!", "Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!", and "Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
(And yes, this journal may get updated at times.)

-"She gets in the way of yaoi!"
No, she doesn't. I don't see how in the world she gets in the way of it. Does this mean that you hate all the other girls too, or maybe all characters? But really, nobody is getting in the way of yaoi. Did she somehow decrease the production of USUK/FrUK/GerIta etc...? What in the world are you thinking?

Fun-fact: Hetalia is not a yaoi anime.

-"She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
Are you getting that desperate in finding a reason to hate her? Oh, you hate her because she gets in the way of FrUK? So that means America 'gets in the way' of FrUK. Are you going to hate him too?  Or maybe you would hate Hungary because she 'gets in the way' of AusPrus? Just learn to ignore a pairing that you don't like, and just search things of the pairing that you do like!

Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia.

-"She is such a bitch!"
I never thought that she ever fit the definition of being that. I looked the word up just to make extra sure that I know what I'm saying here, unlike those who simply toss that term around like it's nothing.

Bitch- A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing; a lewd woman; a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person.

Can you tell me when there was a time when she was ever like any of the terms? If you can't, then why do you even call her that in the first place?

-"She is a whore!"
To be a whore is to be a dissolute and/or promiscuous person. A whore is usually the one who also has sex with many people and such.

If you are calling her a whore because of Gakuen Hetalia, your judgment is definitely off. She never tried to have sex with anyone, nonetheless flirt with them! And it seemed that pretty much nobody had tried to flirt with her either, excluding France. If you think that she's a whore because she 'gets all the men', that's invalid; she never 'gets' the men. At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them, because it's a respectful thing to do. So in your world, possibly being nice to others = whore? Or, being kind = flirting?

To those who have that type of logic: In life, you probably have tried being nice and kind to others, right? If so, call yourself a whore, too. If not, call yourself a hypocrite. If you do not wish to be either of those terms, there is hope. Please refer to this possibility: Do not label Seychelles as a whore.

-"She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!"
Please refer back to the previous rant about titled "She is a whore!". Is it because Seychelles is the one communicating with the characters and not you? Okay, maybe you should just consider yourself jealous- yes, be jealous of a sweet girl.

Come on, must you really be jealous of a character who does not even exist, nonetheless be jealous of her because she talks to characters who also do not exist? Besides, in Gakuen Hetalia, it's actually you being put in the perspective of Seychelles, but you get to make the choices of what she does or not. So in a way, you're still being yourself in the game in a way.

By the way, some people say that Gakuen Hetalia is a 'dating sim'. Okay, maybe it does have the title of it, or something? But it seems to be the type of game that is like, "Let's make friends and make it through school!" type of game, nothing major. At most, you just have daily conversations with the characters and stuff- similar to what you would do in real life.

-"She's a Mary-Sue!"
How would you even know if she is? "She's so perfect!" No, she does have faults and flaws, which you probably did not care to look up. She's a bit of a glutton; she laments about her high cost of living; she does get teased because of her coat of arms, and possibly bullied for other reasons in Gakuen Hetalia; she is not good at cooking, but slightly better than England; she is also insecure about herself at times. And some people say that she's a Mary-Sue because she 'gets all the guys'. Refer back to my two rants of "She is a whore" and/or "She gets all the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!".

There are several different types of Mary-Sues, but I'll give the general definitions.
Mary-Sue: A fictional character, usually female and especially in fan-fiction, whose implausible talents and likableness weaken the story; they are perfect with their fashion, looks, beauty, intelligence, strength, social skills, and/or power.
In my opinion, Seychelles is very adorable in her designs! She can be smart at times, but a bit clumsy too. And her social skills, like I said, she tries to be nice to others. If she's nice to others, it makes sense for others to be nice to her. Even then, she does get teased, so her social skills are not perfect.

-"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Then you probably hate Spain and Turkey, yes?

In the first four seasons of Hetalia, characters like Seychelles, Spain, and Turkey were very white. That was because of Studio DEEN's previous director and staff. Since there are now a new director and staff members, the characters now have their original skin color in season 5. Besides, Himaruya did design Seychelles to have tan skin. Also, apparently it's known that Himaruya does not always stick to the same shade color for skin, so her skin color may vary from a light tan to medium tan to dark. Drawings of Seychelles by Himaruya -> images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… images5.fanpop.com/image/photo… images6.fanpop.com/image/photo… (And I tried to find that scan of Seychelles in the manga where she's wearing her school uniform. It's in a colored page. If anyone finds what I'm talking about, I'll be happy to include it!)

-"She gets paired up with EVERYONE!"
Why must that matter so much to you? England, Prussia, America, France etc...and lots of other countries are paired up with several other characters/countries/humans. On the contrary, the most popular ships Seychelles is involved in are EnglandXSeychelles and FranceXSeychelles. But one of the most popular ships overall are, for example, USUK, FrUK, and EnglandXJapan. Interesting, a lot of people do love England, but I never heard anyone complain how he's paired up a lot. (And yes, I really do like England too. This is not meant to bash him by any means, but to only make a point across.)

Fact: The fandom pairs up lots of characters with each other.
If you do not like that^ fact, the frustration should not be aimed at the character; and instead, rethink if you really wish to be part of a fandom that pairs up characters often.

Fact: A lot of Hetalia characters get paired up with a lot of Hetalia characters. (What a big surprise!)
To hate Seychelles for being paired up with others...well, look at all the other characters.

-"She's a FEMALE."
Can you please provide a reason why this is a wonderful excuse to hate Seychelles? First you have to be hater, and now be a bit of a sexist? Then perhaps you hate Hungary, and Liechtenstein, and any other female characters just because they have a womanhood? I can get into deeper details on why this is wrong on so many levels, but I rather not.
Ironically, the majority of the Hetalia fandom are females! "Is a female; hates female characters."

-"She's an island!"
What kind of reason is that? Contrary to belief, Seychelles is not an island, but an archipelago(basically a chain of islands. Still, get your facts straight). Why aim your frustrations at a character just because he/she represents an island or archipelago country?
Okay, well I never heard of any reasons to hate Japan, Taiwan, England, Iceland etc... just because they are island countries.

-"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Firstly, Seychelles' personality is basically: bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice. I suggest learning more about Seychelles's history and personality before using this reason to hate her.

If you understand Seychelles' history and personality, and you still hate her for how she is portrayed, could it be because she appears OOC(out of character)? If so, remember that it's the Author's doing; if you know for a fact that the real Seychelles would not act like that, perhaps you should try finding better fanfictions that portray her better and ignore the bad fanfictions?

-"Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!"
Just because a character is a minor character, that doesn't mean that the character is useless or unnecessary. Hetalia is basically a world of personified countries, and even micronations! Sure, Seychelles was neither in Axis nor Allies, but she is still a country. Because she is a country with history with some of the other characters, such as being raised by France etc... she does have at least some importance. She may not have as much appearances compared to the main cast, but she can still be useful. Besides, there are other countries/micronations characters who are still a part of Hetalia who have even less screen-time than Seychelles, such as Australia, Principality of Wy, Romania etc..

-"Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
Think of it like this: Seychelles is known because she was in the Hetalia game Gakeun Hetalia, which is very popular. She gets to have a few appearances in the manga. She was known as being a popular Hetalia character who got white-washed at first. And also, she's a well-known Hetalia character to receive hate- and because of the hate, some people joined the fan-base in order to give Seychelles more positive attention. Eventually, things add up to why her fan-base may appear big-- but certainly not as big as the other characters.
Besides, there are some characters who did less than Seychelles and did not do much in the anime, yet their fan-base is bigger than Seychelles', such as Hong Kong.

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Comments: 322

AnzhelinaMenshutkin In reply to ??? [2013-06-02 03:34:38 +0000 UTC]

I know she is!!

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clawstarandashheart In reply to ??? [2013-05-24 11:35:33 +0000 UTC]

I don't hate her. I just dislike her. Though because I say this when they ask what I think about her, people get really mad at me and assume I hate her when I don't! :/

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LauraDanger In reply to clawstarandashheart [2013-05-24 13:27:48 +0000 UTC]

Well, hate =/= dislike. D:
May I ask why you dislike her though?

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clawstarandashheart In reply to LauraDanger [2013-05-31 09:11:12 +0000 UTC]

After the most recent episode I don't dislike her anymore c:

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LauraDanger In reply to clawstarandashheart [2013-06-02 00:45:23 +0000 UTC]

;u; That's good~~

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clawstarandashheart In reply to LauraDanger [2013-06-02 01:15:56 +0000 UTC]

Yes! ^w^

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sakurablossom101 In reply to ??? [2013-05-22 20:06:14 +0000 UTC]

I have to agree with you most people only hate her for them reasons and its stupid really they are not good reasons since none are real reasons to dislike her, but they are some people who have good reasons for disliking her, i dont hate her but i dont really like her either, some people might not like her personality, since she is very cheerful, i dont really like characters who are overy cheery.
yet sometimes i think that people who like her and just as bad as the people who hate her, since everybody has to have a character they dislike, and people who complain about it, but everybody has their own opinion, and no one can force them to like some one if they don't want to,
Though people who like seychelles think a lot of people hate her, but i think more people like her, but this is my opinion.

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LauraDanger In reply to sakurablossom101 [2013-05-23 19:07:15 +0000 UTC]

Mhm~ In my opinion, I think one of the silliest reasons to not like her or even hate her is the "she gets paired up with everyone!" Well, no. Firstly, other characters are paired up more than her in the first place, like the main ones. Oh, when it's like, England for example, he gets much more love for being paired up- but that's just my observation for being in the fandom for over 2 years now. :/
Hhm~ Personality-wise, I can see. Actually, sure, she isn't cheerful all the time, and I actually feel bad for her for some things. Hmm...I'm just kinda picky though. xD; Like, I would prefer to see her personality in action in the anime this time than to always rely on the manga- but that's just me.

Actually, not everyone has to dislike a character. xD; We can have preferences on whom we like more. Like, so far...I like everyone in Hetalia! But I can still say that I like China more than Cuba.

And yes, while I do like Seychelles a lot, I know that she does get a lot of hate, especially when you compare that hate to other characters. I mean...from researching things up, Seychelles is the only female character in Hetalia who has a hate group. And yes, I did check for hate groups for other female characters, but I never found any.
But still, I do agree with you with the end: that more people like her. Or, I rather put it into my terms: people have more positive feelings for Seychelles than negative.

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GurlyHR In reply to ??? [2013-05-20 23:51:42 +0000 UTC]

At first I thought she was a Mary-Sue then realized how much of an idiot I was for thinking that and now she is my 3rd or 2nd favorite female character. ^^

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LauraDanger In reply to GurlyHR [2013-05-23 17:02:08 +0000 UTC]

For now, I feel as if...well, if anyone calls her a Mary-sue, they don't really know what a Mary-Sue is then, unless if they can actually support their reasons. :/

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AnzhelinaMenshutkin In reply to LauraDanger [2013-07-03 17:51:00 +0000 UTC]

Um, a Mary-Sue is someone who thinks they're so perfect it's annoyi-HEY, SEYCHELLES IS NOT ANNOYING NEITHER IS SHE PERFECT. HECK, NO ONE IS PERFECT. I personally love ALL female characters in Hetalia.~

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ShizukaxxxSecret In reply to ??? [2013-05-20 10:18:20 +0000 UTC]

Amen!

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LauraDanger In reply to ShizukaxxxSecret [2013-05-23 17:01:22 +0000 UTC]

>u< Thanks~!

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Pixelated--Coffee In reply to ??? [2013-04-30 00:53:45 +0000 UTC]

people that still hate seychelles more like

[link]
deviantART muro drawing

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LauraDanger In reply to Pixelated--Coffee [2013-05-23 17:01:15 +0000 UTC]

@.@ Oooiiii, yeah. e.e

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SnowSungirl In reply to ??? [2013-04-19 01:21:32 +0000 UTC]

Well said! people need to stop hating on seychelles its ridiculous !!

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LauraDanger In reply to SnowSungirl [2013-04-20 16:57:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you~ ;u;

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Frenzydaydreamer11 In reply to ??? [2013-04-16 14:03:16 +0000 UTC]

I understand!!! Shes nice cos she reminds me of me XD anyways AWESOME cosplay of her~ im plannin to cosplay as her soon~ wat do u think?

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LauraDanger In reply to Frenzydaydreamer11 [2013-04-16 20:02:28 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you understand~ >u<

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Frenzydaydreamer11 In reply to LauraDanger [2013-04-17 01:47:43 +0000 UTC]

Yeah!!!!!! Well cos frankly ive got to say im in her situation in a way XD

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LauraDanger In reply to Frenzydaydreamer11 [2013-04-17 03:42:24 +0000 UTC]

Aaww~ xD; Nnn, a lot of people say that I'm like her too and such. .3. It's sometimes natural to want to cosplay as a character that one can easily relate to.

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Frenzydaydreamer11 In reply to LauraDanger [2013-04-17 04:46:24 +0000 UTC]

Yup awww ~ u shld be my twin!!! * hugs * aww the feels~

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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to ??? [2013-04-11 21:58:44 +0000 UTC]

It is good to see someone deconstruct all the reasons for hating on a character, and alot of them are fantastically superficial. It's pretty facepalming at points.

It's interesting how people apply these 'gets in the way of this-this-and-that-pairing'. What about Hungary? Isn't it canon that she likes yaoi stuff (or at the least; hot guys)? Surely she's a supporter of this stuff. There's no reason to hate on her at all.

"At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them" - in the way that actual girls talk and communicate with boys? Goodness gracious! I have several friends that happen to be of the male gender. Clearly I am a whore
If you believe in that sort of logic clearly the only explanation is that you grew up in a convent.

The skin colour thing is another atrocious reason. It's downright racist really (it reminds of the incident where people complained about Lou being black in the Hunger Games film when the original novel does state that she is black). Of course we're in Hetalia, it's racist to begin with. But still.
Of course she should be black, she's an African island. How can she not be?
I really disliked the anime white-washing a lot of characters. However, you say they'll be bringing back her original skintones for series 5? I'm quite happy to hear that. Surely this is a series about racial diversity, why should people be hating on that?

"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Another strange reason. I could complain about how say, England gets portrayed in a lot of fanfiction, but I know this is a case of bad writing for the most part. There are probably fanfictions that do a very good job portraying Seychelles.

And yes, England gets paired up with a lot of people. There's a EnglandXtheWorld fanclub somewhere here. But Seychelles gets one guy? Ooooh. Scandal.

I pretty much agree with you on every point here. Once again good to see the defence of the series female characters.

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LauraDanger In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-04-11 22:25:29 +0000 UTC]

Hm~ I don't really remember if I saw anything indicating that Hungary canonly likes yaoi though, but I can see it happening. XD

About Seychelles' skintone, there are already official images and screenshots of her design in season 5. Besides, her skin tone is like, around tan-medium brown or so. xD; Sometimes Himaruya changes the tone a bit, and other colors within the range. =3= I do like the new designs in the anime, because it's more accurate to most of Himaruya's character designs. Here are a few new images of Seychelles: [link]

For the fanfictions, all I can say is that it varies. x3x; What the author intended to write, how well it is written, and how to bring out the characters up to a certain extent. At the end, it depends on the preference of the reader. XP

@.@ Woah, there are much more England pairings in the popularity scale than Seychelles pairings, ppfff and people complain about her for 'being paired with everyone', ummm. >_>

;u; But thank you for reading~! It's nice to know there are more people who at least like her! >3<

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Raax-theIceWarrior In reply to LauraDanger [2013-04-29 11:25:01 +0000 UTC]

I must admit I can't remember hearing it officially (in fact I think it was on tv tropes), but I find it it interesting just because it's a fun way to negate the whole 'urgh! but they in the way of that pairing' thing.
I had a friend who shipped one yaoi pair, even though one of the characters was actually married. They explained it by making her a slash fan. They just did it in a fun way.

Ooooh... those look so nice. Everything I hear about series 5 just makes me more excited. The new animation does look beautiful. I can only hope they also fired all the writing staff as well and got someone who actually understands story structure (I know Hetalia never had much to go on in the first place, but if you compare how the manga books were structured in comparison to the anime, you realise these people have no clue about storytelling at all)

Yeh, it's always a 'pair England up with everyone' group. Guy's a man whore And yet Seychelles really has about two pairings people would properly consider and she gets so much slack.

The thing I'm writing a fanfiction that has Seychelles at the moment (well, really her 2-player version, even though I'm planning on using differently from the established design) I'm trying to figure out whether I'll get hated on more for portraying the character differently, or because I included a female character.

No problem at all, I'm always willing to defend the female characters in this series.

Although, whilst I like Seychelles, I sort of don't like many of the Nyotalia designs, but I like think my dislike is for more valid reasons than: 'oh, she's a girl', 'oh she's a bitch'. A lot of them feel like wasted opportunity to me. Another series with the same premise as Hetalia gave all the countries 'sisters' so they were able to explore female stereotypes of that country as well, which is really what I would like to see them as. But it feels like they're really not. I love NyoFrance and Germany, they look great, but most of the others seem merely functional, more as genderbends of the originals than actual representations of the countries. I don't like the female England for that reason, she feels like a terrible representation of my gender and country (the pigtails make her look like a whiny schoolgirl, whereas she really should be a proper English lady). Similar problem with femItaly, she doesn't feel Italian at all to me.
Which is a shame, because I like all the canon female characters in the series.

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LauraDanger In reply to Raax-theIceWarrior [2013-05-23 16:34:48 +0000 UTC]

(Wah! I'm sorry for the late reply. DX)
The thought of getting hate because you're including a /female/ character in a fanfiction? e.e That....that's really lame.
ouo And of course, we are entitled to our opinions. xD While I do like the Nyotalia designs, I do agree with you about England's Nyotalia counterpart~

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CorDaiZee In reply to ??? [2013-04-10 23:44:10 +0000 UTC]

I agree, Seychelles is hated for no reason at all.

Ok, she has a cute personality. She seems happy and bubbly, but she complains of High prices of living, and how she was once rich... I mean really.

And in Gakuen Hetalia, aren't YOU supposed to be Seychelles?

And hated for her skin color...?! REALLY. she's tan to medium brown.... And she's an African nation! What do you expect?!

You made A LOT of good points. I'm going to link people to this when people hate on Sey... Good job! ^^

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LauraDanger In reply to CorDaiZee [2013-04-11 02:51:16 +0000 UTC]

x3x; All the reasons to hate her that I have seen or was told, I have never seen anyone backing the reasons up so well- and at the end, they look like hypocrites. e.e; The majority, of course.

;u;! It feels like you're one of the few people who actually know that she does complain about her high expenses and how she says that she used to have more power. x3x

DX Well, some people hate her for having around a tan-medium brown skin color, even though that is how Himaruya mostly colors her in. :/ I don't know...some people complain about how she is 'too white'-- well, that's mostly because of fan-artists and Studio DEEN before. *Shrugs* Regardless of skin color depicted in drawings of her, she's still cute~ Hm, in my opinion, I think people should just stick to the colors that Himaruya uses for her skin. :/

XD Go ahead and do so if you wish~ It wouldn't make sense for me to post this journal for the public, and then instantly tell you never to do that. XD But thank you~! ouo

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HollyWren In reply to ??? [2013-03-29 21:52:11 +0000 UTC]

NO HATEING ON SEYCHELLS!

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LauraDanger In reply to HollyWren [2013-05-29 00:23:42 +0000 UTC]

;u; I just think going as far as to even 'hating' her is too irrational~

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MickiCookie In reply to ??? [2013-03-25 15:58:50 +0000 UTC]

You're so right!
I mean I don't know her so I'm not a fan or something of her but still what you said is true...
It's just idiotically that people hate females just because of that... Nobody gets in the way!

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LauraDanger In reply to MickiCookie [2013-03-27 04:47:02 +0000 UTC]

And even though you say you don't know her, I like the fact that you don't instantly hate her. xD; So it's nice to like her, or be neutral or something of the sort when you are not familiar with something/someone. o3o

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MickiCookie In reply to LauraDanger [2013-03-27 16:47:50 +0000 UTC]

Well I don't want to judge people that intent know so I'm just all switzy and stay neutral
Everything else would be weird and mean >^<

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Fantasy-Fashionista In reply to ??? [2013-03-19 03:34:10 +0000 UTC]

Well said!!! I love Seychelles, and all this hate towards her is pathetic!!!!

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LauraDanger In reply to Fantasy-Fashionista [2013-03-20 18:18:52 +0000 UTC]

Thank you~<3
Nn~ e.e The hate...it just seems so exaggerated. o-o

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Fantasy-Fashionista In reply to LauraDanger [2013-03-20 19:22:33 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

And yes, it's stupid.

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not-active-anymore In reply to ??? [2013-03-18 23:09:47 +0000 UTC]

i dont get it either
she's so qt ;o;

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LauraDanger In reply to not-active-anymore [2013-03-20 18:18:00 +0000 UTC]

;; She's a sweetheart~

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UmiUsagi In reply to ??? [2013-03-18 14:49:43 +0000 UTC]

Well damn.
1. Who got you on this rampage chica?
2. Simply put people are ignorant. All your points are true and reasonable but people, especially crazy fans, will overlook it or try and find some way to prove you wrong. They'll still be wrong but they'll think they'll win and then this happens again and so is the circle of fandoms. They're awesome but annoying, but hey we gotta take the good with the bad you know? So just try and ignore them, Laura cause honestly their stubbornness isn't worth wasting your breath.

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LauraDanger In reply to UmiUsagi [2013-03-18 15:25:12 +0000 UTC]

1. XD I'm not in a rampage~
2. I know, some people will never learn, and they will still try to make up excuses just so they will be right in their own world, even though the reasons not to are right here. I just thought to put some input about the hate against Seychelles.
To be honest, I don't believe that doing what I did was a waste. XD; I actually have helped some people to see the bigger picture, and I even made friends out of this. Plus, it feels nice to vent a bit. Sure, I have really tried to ignore the haters, but then somehow, they just sneak in with their comments/hate fanart etc... :/ I mean, how would you feel if you cosplay as an innocent character who is one of the most hated in the fandom?

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UmiUsagi In reply to LauraDanger [2013-03-31 08:35:52 +0000 UTC]

1. Well you're on a rant rampage. A mini one at least lol.
2. But you are right. People will always try and do or say or whatever they can so that they can somewhat be right. But I guess it's good for you to shine some light on this hatred. And it's really good that you helped some people see the big picture and even better that you made friends out of it And the venting thing, oh trust me I know how much it helps.
I also sort of understand how that bothers you, but honestly why do people hate her so much if she's so innocent?

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LauraDanger In reply to UmiUsagi [2013-03-31 14:02:31 +0000 UTC]

There are lots of reasons why they may hate her, like the ones I've mentioned. But there are some who would rather hate her for those reasons rather than to say they're jealous or something. e.e It's rather ridiculous at some points.

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UmiUsagi In reply to LauraDanger [2013-06-04 18:47:58 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that is ridiculous. I mean I understand it's a fandom and all but i mean come on people, don't hate on something for stupid reasons. It just sort of shows how pathetic they are : P

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NISHUNE In reply to ??? [2013-03-18 13:42:03 +0000 UTC]

This is sooo bulshit, I mean the reasons people hate Seychelles, not your post dear.

She's not a Mary Sue, wanna see Hetalia Mary Sues? Go up on Mary Sue Facepalm and you'll see HORRIBLE Mary Sues for Hetalia. Hating someone because of pairings or other shit like the ones listed is just plain bland. If you're gonna hate a character then give me some good reasons or better yet don't mistreat people who actually like that character.

Besides, it's like you said, the majority of Seychelles pairings are actually with England or France, but that's also taking into consideration history! These little yaoi bitches haven't done their homework!!!

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LauraDanger In reply to NISHUNE [2013-03-18 14:07:48 +0000 UTC]

<3
So, I went on the tumblr site as you've mentioned. :3......=A= Those are real Mary-Sues, right there. Now I really don't understand why people go around and say that Seychelles is a Mary-sue- Nnn, look at the OCs on Mary Sues facepalm. @.@;

Mhm, there's is indeed history for Seychelles when it comes to France and England, and even some with Russia and China and some other countries. =3=

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NISHUNE In reply to LauraDanger [2013-03-18 15:38:37 +0000 UTC]

Did you see the Pacific Ocean Mary Sue? She's just pure horrible and so accuratley wrong... LOL, I've seen some animes that DO have charas that seem more like sues Canon Sues methinks, but no... Seychelles isn't a Sue to me...

LOL, people may start about that because of the other countries as well, but it's really history! Actually all of Hetalia is! So people need to calm their titties and respect Seychelles! I'm a ChinaxJapan fan but I don't end up all pissed off on Seychelles just because of her history with China...

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LauraDanger In reply to NISHUNE [2013-03-20 18:13:25 +0000 UTC]

x.x People are so going overboard with the Mary-sue. Maybe some people just accuse her of being a Mary-sue because they want to make themselves feel better about their OCs. :/

XD People shouldn't have to act so surprised if Seychelles does interact with the other characters. It may seem random if Seychelles and China interact, unless if you look into their actual history. o-o

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NISHUNE In reply to LauraDanger [2013-03-20 19:57:49 +0000 UTC]

Once more, Hetalia is History! That's why people need to shut up about Seychelles, she's not a Mary and all her interactions are based on actual HISTORICAL events. If you're gonna do a character then plan them right, that's what I always say and lemme tell you Seychelles IS planned right.

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SparDanger In reply to ??? [2013-03-18 01:59:47 +0000 UTC]

Well said.

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LauraDanger In reply to SparDanger [2013-03-18 02:01:31 +0000 UTC]

Even though I'm unsure if you have been into Hetalia before or so, or familiar how this fandom is like, I'm glad that you do agree. ;u;

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