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As a Seychelles cosplayer and role-player, I am very aware of the hate Seychelles receives. I know that there are reasons out there, but are they even reasonable? In this rant, I reveal why the common reasons of hating her barely make any sense. We are all entitled to our opinions, so she may be the most adorable thing ever, or appear to be boring and unappealing to others. Also, I'm not saying that you have to love her, or even like her! But you shouldn't really have to hate her when there are practically no reasons to do so.
The reasons (in order) in this rant are: "She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!", "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!", "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!", "Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!", and "Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
(And yes, this journal may get updated at times.)
-"She gets in the way of yaoi!"
No, she doesn't. I don't see how in the world she gets in the way of it. Does this mean that you hate all the other girls too, or maybe all characters? But really, nobody is getting in the way of yaoi. Did she somehow decrease the production of USUK/FrUK/GerIta etc...? What in the world are you thinking?
Fun-fact: Hetalia is not a yaoi anime.
-"She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
Are you getting that desperate in finding a reason to hate her? Oh, you hate her because she gets in the way of FrUK? So that means America 'gets in the way' of FrUK. Are you going to hate him too? Or maybe you would hate Hungary because she 'gets in the way' of AusPrus? Just learn to ignore a pairing that you don't like, and just search things of the pairing that you do like!
Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia.
-"She is such a bitch!"
I never thought that she ever fit the definition of being that. I looked the word up just to make extra sure that I know what I'm saying here, unlike those who simply toss that term around like it's nothing.
Bitch- A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing; a lewd woman; a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person.
Can you tell me when there was a time when she was ever like any of the terms? If you can't, then why do you even call her that in the first place?
-"She is a whore!"
To be a whore is to be a dissolute and/or promiscuous person. A whore is usually the one who also has sex with many people and such.
If you are calling her a whore because of Gakuen Hetalia, your judgment is definitely off. She never tried to have sex with anyone, nonetheless flirt with them! And it seemed that pretty much nobody had tried to flirt with her either, excluding France. If you think that she's a whore because she 'gets all the men', that's invalid; she never 'gets' the men. At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them, because it's a respectful thing to do. So in your world, possibly being nice to others = whore? Or, being kind = flirting?
To those who have that type of logic: In life, you probably have tried being nice and kind to others, right? If so, call yourself a whore, too. If not, call yourself a hypocrite. If you do not wish to be either of those terms, there is hope. Please refer to this possibility: Do not label Seychelles as a whore.
-"She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!"
Please refer back to the previous rant about titled "She is a whore!". Is it because Seychelles is the one communicating with the characters and not you? Okay, maybe you should just consider yourself jealous- yes, be jealous of a sweet girl.
Come on, must you really be jealous of a character who does not even exist, nonetheless be jealous of her because she talks to characters who also do not exist? Besides, in Gakuen Hetalia, it's actually you being put in the perspective of Seychelles, but you get to make the choices of what she does or not. So in a way, you're still being yourself in the game in a way.
By the way, some people say that Gakuen Hetalia is a 'dating sim'. Okay, maybe it does have the title of it, or something? But it seems to be the type of game that is like, "Let's make friends and make it through school!" type of game, nothing major. At most, you just have daily conversations with the characters and stuff- similar to what you would do in real life.
-"She's a Mary-Sue!"
How would you even know if she is? "She's so perfect!" No, she does have faults and flaws, which you probably did not care to look up. She's a bit of a glutton; she laments about her high cost of living; she does get teased because of her coat of arms, and possibly bullied for other reasons in Gakuen Hetalia; she is not good at cooking, but slightly better than England; she is also insecure about herself at times. And some people say that she's a Mary-Sue because she 'gets all the guys'. Refer back to my two rants of "She is a whore" and/or "She gets all the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!".
There are several different types of Mary-Sues, but I'll give the general definitions.
Mary-Sue: A fictional character, usually female and especially in fan-fiction, whose implausible talents and likableness weaken the story; they are perfect with their fashion, looks, beauty, intelligence, strength, social skills, and/or power.
In my opinion, Seychelles is very adorable in her designs! She can be smart at times, but a bit clumsy too. And her social skills, like I said, she tries to be nice to others. If she's nice to others, it makes sense for others to be nice to her. Even then, she does get teased, so her social skills are not perfect.
-"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Then you probably hate Spain and Turkey, yes?
In the first four seasons of Hetalia, characters like Seychelles, Spain, and Turkey were very white. That was because of Studio DEEN's previous director and staff. Since there are now a new director and staff members, the characters now have their original skin color in season 5. Besides, Himaruya did design Seychelles to have tan skin. Also, apparently it's known that Himaruya does not always stick to the same shade color for skin, so her skin color may vary from a light tan to medium tan to dark. Drawings of Seychelles by Himaruya -> images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… images5.fanpop.com/image/photo… images6.fanpop.com/image/photo… (And I tried to find that scan of Seychelles in the manga where she's wearing her school uniform. It's in a colored page. If anyone finds what I'm talking about, I'll be happy to include it!)
-"She gets paired up with EVERYONE!"
Why must that matter so much to you? England, Prussia, America, France etc...and lots of other countries are paired up with several other characters/countries/humans. On the contrary, the most popular ships Seychelles is involved in are EnglandXSeychelles and FranceXSeychelles. But one of the most popular ships overall are, for example, USUK, FrUK, and EnglandXJapan. Interesting, a lot of people do love England, but I never heard anyone complain how he's paired up a lot. (And yes, I really do like England too. This is not meant to bash him by any means, but to only make a point across.)
Fact: The fandom pairs up lots of characters with each other.
If you do not like that^ fact, the frustration should not be aimed at the character; and instead, rethink if you really wish to be part of a fandom that pairs up characters often.
Fact: A lot of Hetalia characters get paired up with a lot of Hetalia characters. (What a big surprise!)
To hate Seychelles for being paired up with others...well, look at all the other characters.
-"She's a FEMALE."
Can you please provide a reason why this is a wonderful excuse to hate Seychelles? First you have to be hater, and now be a bit of a sexist? Then perhaps you hate Hungary, and Liechtenstein, and any other female characters just because they have a womanhood? I can get into deeper details on why this is wrong on so many levels, but I rather not.
Ironically, the majority of the Hetalia fandom are females! "Is a female; hates female characters."
-"She's an island!"
What kind of reason is that? Contrary to belief, Seychelles is not an island, but an archipelago(basically a chain of islands. Still, get your facts straight). Why aim your frustrations at a character just because he/she represents an island or archipelago country?
Okay, well I never heard of any reasons to hate Japan, Taiwan, England, Iceland etc... just because they are island countries.
-"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Firstly, Seychelles' personality is basically: bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice. I suggest learning more about Seychelles's history and personality before using this reason to hate her.
If you understand Seychelles' history and personality, and you still hate her for how she is portrayed, could it be because she appears OOC(out of character)? If so, remember that it's the Author's doing; if you know for a fact that the real Seychelles would not act like that, perhaps you should try finding better fanfictions that portray her better and ignore the bad fanfictions?
-"Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!"
Just because a character is a minor character, that doesn't mean that the character is useless or unnecessary. Hetalia is basically a world of personified countries, and even micronations! Sure, Seychelles was neither in Axis nor Allies, but she is still a country. Because she is a country with history with some of the other characters, such as being raised by France etc... she does have at least some importance. She may not have as much appearances compared to the main cast, but she can still be useful. Besides, there are other countries/micronations characters who are still a part of Hetalia who have even less screen-time than Seychelles, such as Australia, Principality of Wy, Romania etc..
-"Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
Think of it like this: Seychelles is known because she was in the Hetalia game Gakeun Hetalia, which is very popular. She gets to have a few appearances in the manga. She was known as being a popular Hetalia character who got white-washed at first. And also, she's a well-known Hetalia character to receive hate- and because of the hate, some people joined the fan-base in order to give Seychelles more positive attention. Eventually, things add up to why her fan-base may appear big-- but certainly not as big as the other characters.
Besides, there are some characters who did less than Seychelles and did not do much in the anime, yet their fan-base is bigger than Seychelles', such as Hong Kong.
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Comments: 322
tultsi93 In reply to ??? [2017-02-17 15:22:05 +0000 UTC]
I don't stand how he gets so easily away from breaking rules of school and how he steals all the spotlight from minor characters. Good thing on Harry is that he's brave.
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RavenKrow [2015-12-31 23:42:49 +0000 UTC]
If people think a nice and kind person is the definition of a whore, then I'm the biggest bloody whore I know. I mean seriously, at least the haters could get their definitions right!! This sort of undefined, insensitive, sexist, annoying hat makes me so pissed off!! Good on ya to tackle the problem this way! 😊
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Cat131313 [2015-11-30 05:58:35 +0000 UTC]
Funny how I'm doing research on Miss Seychelles and this is the third thing that pops up. Still can't find the answers I'm looking for but that's besides the point. I've seen this kind of hate in a few other fandoms but I can never understand why. She's a sweetheart in fact all the girls in Hetalia are. If people don't like shipping strait pairs that's fine but there's no need to bash the girl for being well a girl. Especially when she could probably kick some ass with that fish of hers. XD
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Aria-Chan29 [2015-11-27 15:39:53 +0000 UTC]
At first when i saw Seychelles i thought like "Wow! she's so cute, pretty, etc. then i read a rant talking about why he/she (possibly a she) hates Seychelles. And at that moment I immediately hated Seychelles. Everytime I see her face or if she was mention in a fanfic i hate her so much (thankfully i didn't leave hate comments) n at that time I dislike *not hate* her skin colour (idk why I was being so racist towards her skin colour when I'm tan myself. Southeast Asian btw. I guess I was being racist towards myself too but I didn't realise it until now)
While I was searching reasons to hate Seychelles (idk why I was just crazy at that time *n bored*) I came across your rant and after that I just change. I looked back to my old self and thought what the heck is wrong with me? Maybe I've read too many bromance 😅😅 And then i just hated my old self for hating a girl(Seychelles) being paired with other hetalia guys and thinking she was a whore of some kind when I can love England being paired up with almost everbody. Now when I see Seychelles's face or in any fanfic I just saw her as cute and stuff like when the first time I saw her. Thank you very much! You really have changed me with your wonderful rant! (LOL) Seriously thought you saved me from being an insane hetalia fangirl who's like "She's a whore!""She ruins my pairings!""She's a total mary-sue!" and blah blah blah...
Btw your cosplay is really good! hmm... Seychelles hair is cute actually now that I see her. I think I'm gonna make my hair like her now! Again, THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! now i'm a Seychelles fan!
edit: didn't realise this is super long😅
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EmeraldHetaliaFan In reply to Aria-Chan29 [2016-06-26 11:37:24 +0000 UTC]
I'm a Southern Asian and since its been cold in Melbourne Australia the family was not tan they were like pale Asians.
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nadiasimone In reply to ??? [2015-10-26 19:35:07 +0000 UTC]
Ever since I found out about Hetalia, I through Seychelles were really cute so I actually through about making her my first cosplay since I have a personally close to her and she is an amazing character.
So hearing of all the hate she gets just breaks my heart so much.
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SerinaKuro In reply to ??? [2015-08-23 05:22:28 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for pointing this stuff out, I love Seychelles and she doesn't deserve the hate that she gets at all. Bless you for this post it motivates me to cosplay as her in the future and not be scared of other hetalia fans!
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ROMANO-CRESS In reply to ??? [2015-08-03 00:14:19 +0000 UTC]
YES. YES.
Ota's mini rant on female hate
Okay, so the hate in hetalia is too much. Personally, I embrace all the females. But theses THOSE FANS. The ones that go "Ermegerd! I hate (female country)! SHE GETS IN THE WAY OF MY OTP!!!111"
Okay, so first off:
Wat.
One of the targeted ones in this? Seychelles.
HECK, WAT.
I MEAN, YOU SEE HINTS OF SOME SHIPS IN GAKUEN HETALIA. WAT DA FAQ PEOPLE?
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Girl-Time-2015 In reply to ROMANO-CRESS [2015-08-11 23:36:54 +0000 UTC]
Gakuen isn't even canon its the same as Nyotalia and Nekotalia: an AU but fans take it way over their heads too much.
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DrekiHeartTG In reply to ??? [2015-08-01 01:07:11 +0000 UTC]
Wait... Isn't Gerita (GermanyxItaly) practically canon?
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Girl-Time-2015 In reply to DrekiHeartTG [2015-08-11 23:35:53 +0000 UTC]
It could be depending of you're going by the "Germany is HRE" theory. That and the Buon San Valentino strips hinted at the possibility though its more for humor.
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TacoCatMC [2015-07-15 00:10:47 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for creating this because i never really understood why people hated such a bubbly and cute character! I still think that and still stick by it but i understand! People can be just plain to people real or fake and it makes me sad to think that! Everyone has an opinion but you have a choice on what to do with it. My friends used to hate one direction but we have one that loves them and i was just so sad when people started to bash them in her face like this could be a reason for someone to live and you just have to say something without thinking of the coincidences. I personally dont like them but if someone wants to talk about them positively, im there to listen.
You may have a different opinion, or want me to have one, but anime/tv shows/music isnt about choosing sides, its about celebrating the things you love. Please dont hate someone or something they like out loud. Sometimes its better to keep things to your self and wait for the right moment or right person to talk about those kinds of things. Stay positive and happy and please dont hate, it could affect someone deeply!
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Rittai-chan [2015-07-14 23:56:03 +0000 UTC]
"She gets in the way of yaoi!" "She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
It's not Seychelles fault, if you want to hate someone so badly because of the ships with Seychelles, hate the fandom.
"She is such a bitch!" "She is a whore!"
Any reasons to call her that...?!?
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Mysterious-Myths In reply to ??? [2015-07-13 01:17:50 +0000 UTC]
I Hate Seychelles. I Made A WHOLE Rant On Why I Dislike Her On My Tumblr, Yet I Value Your Opinion. I Honestly Can't Stand Seychelles Parings, But, We All Have Our Opinions, Don't We? I Don't Want To Be Killed For Saying That I DON'T Like Her. Honestly... I've Seen People Want To Kill People Like Me That HAVE Reasons, Opinions, And I Don't Want To Change Your Opinions. People Like Me Have Been Told To DIE by Disliking A Character. My OC Mistress Kirkland Is Going To Get Called A Mary Sue Since She's Royalty, And A Kirkland. I've Even Called Seychelles A Mary Sue Sometimes! If You Want To Read My Rant, Here's A Link: fadingsilverstars.tumblr.com/p…
~ Silver
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SharpShards In reply to Mysterious-Myths [2015-08-31 22:01:11 +0000 UTC]
Ikr, I found the comment I was looking for, right here. btw, the link you put doesn't work.
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Hetalia-Lover2360 [2015-07-01 18:59:29 +0000 UTC]
I really used to love Seychelles. I really did. I mean, I literally fell in love with this character the moment I laid eyes on her. When I first saw Seychelles, I believe my thoughts went something like this: "omg she is so cute! I love her so much! Favorite character!" But then.. one day I looked her up on Hetalia wiki.. and I saw something disturbing.
When Seychelles was young, France groped her. France, the man who was raising this young girl, groped her, AND he tried to undress her. From that moment on, I didn't really look at Seychelles the same way. I feel uncomfortable now, every time I think about her. I wish I never looked at Hetalia wiki's page for Seychelles. If I didn't, I never would have found out that horrible fact about her. She's no longer my favorite female character (Belgium is my fave now, because Belgium's singing voice is AMAZING!), and I don't know what to think of France anymore (Although it doesn't stop me from shipping France x China). I really wish France never did that to Seychelles... that poor girl. I feel so bad for her.. ;n;
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Girl-Time-2015 In reply to Hetalia-Lover2360 [2015-08-05 19:14:35 +0000 UTC]
So you no longer like Seychelles because of what France tried to do to her? England put a dog collar around her, so France and England are both terrible people for doing that but know that they were in the "conquering days" as I call it.
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princesshustun [2015-06-25 01:45:28 +0000 UTC]
wow fantards hating on a female island character that only a small screen time its like hating on actual females that are real thats just sad. just so you know if some of you fantards are females yourselves it mean you are hating on yourself. you have to give the female character some love so pleas no hate.
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Girl-Time-2015 [2015-06-04 17:39:42 +0000 UTC]
People should be glad the Hetalia DOES have female characters. If Hetalia had an all-male cast, that is really something to complain about. Plus, the term Mary-Sue has been thrown around so much, it's virtually meaningless now.
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SakuraBloomKepling [2015-06-02 09:01:37 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much!! I always liked Seychelles and wanted to scream at the people these reasons. But not hurt them 😄
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EeveeHetaliaLover [2015-04-20 13:09:31 +0000 UTC]
"She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!", "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!"
Sounds like my OC
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EeveeHetaliaLover In reply to ??? [2015-04-20 13:06:06 +0000 UTC]
I agree Gakuen Hetalia is only a dating game that you're played as Seychelles but no....rabid fangirls literally want to kill her.Poor Seychelles
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uchiha-pushiha [2015-04-20 00:48:24 +0000 UTC]
i dont hate her or anything like that i just hate how the fan makes her for example like drawing her with every guy like she is dating them it is just stupid -_- besides she is cute
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LauraDanger In reply to uchiha-pushiha [2015-05-03 17:03:16 +0000 UTC]
Hhhmm I suppose.....ehh there's something that I'm not feeling about your reasoning. Like, you say that you hate how fans draw her with every guy that she is "dating".
Firstly, she doesn't really date in the game.
Secondly, there are way more drawings of other characters being paired. Still, I guess I understand if you don't like to see her being the one drawn.
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uchiha-pushiha In reply to LauraDanger [2015-05-03 19:11:19 +0000 UTC]
true but i know what the you ar saying besides some fans are crazy the drawings or good but they dont make sense
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Doodle-canod [2015-04-13 17:37:12 +0000 UTC]
THANK. YOU. SO. MUCH!! I've always loved Seychelles and the female nations FAR more than the males. People even call me a LESBIAN just because Hungary's my favourite. I also, apart from the exception of SuFin and HRExChibi Italy, have a disliking to the majority of the yaoi ships.
I dislike these 6 in particular, Spainxromano, Fruk ,UsUk, South Italy x North Italy, ( not yaoi) Austriaxhungary and Prussiaxhungary. Now, let me explain. Spain x Romano and UsUk are my....least favourites because Spain took care of Romano when he was a baby, and the same thing with America and England so it just comes off as incest for me. South and North Italy are brothers so it just creeps me out. FrUk is just an oddball for me since I think of them as "fre-enemies" . Now, I don't have a disliking to the actual ship of Austria/Prussia x Hungary, I just hate the fans since I get teased for shipping Poland and Hungary. Any other yaoi ship ( such as GerIta, RoChu, etc,) am neutral with and/or just don't care about it. Welp, that's my rant over and done with. I just needed to get this off of my chest. Sorry if you are confused with my writing, I'm Polish, I just don't live there.
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SailorSetsuna In reply to Doodle-canod [2015-07-27 09:58:57 +0000 UTC]
Łaaaaaał... ktoś z Polski, kto też nie lubi USUKa?
I jeszcze lubisz PolHuna? *.*
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\>w
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lovelife40 In reply to ??? [2015-04-02 14:38:23 +0000 UTC]
Well I don't like her but I'm not saying she is any of that. (It may be because I'm a gerita fan and people tell me that she is the big issue...)
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LauraDanger In reply to lovelife40 [2015-05-03 16:55:28 +0000 UTC]
And you don't have to like her or any of the sort. Thooouugghh I don't exactly see why being a Gerita fan and her being a "big issue" means that you don't have to like her- but still, you do you and like or don't like what you want XP
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lovelife40 In reply to LauraDanger [2015-05-03 23:44:33 +0000 UTC]
No no I mean she is a great character i just started to dislike her before I found out that she would be more with France or England! But her character is neat and love her but sometimes she gets in the way of my YOAI world...
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SakuraBloomKepling In reply to lovelife40 [2015-06-02 09:03:26 +0000 UTC]
Dude remember this, she doesn't like any of the Hetalia guys. And the Hetalia guys dont like like her. So your Yaoi is safe.
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lovelife40 In reply to SakuraBloomKepling [2015-06-02 17:59:43 +0000 UTC]
Yay I'm cool with her!!! But before I knew her...... Well yay.... Also you do a good job at the human Seychelles! looks awesome
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LAizPrivyet [2015-03-29 06:10:37 +0000 UTC]
I always wondered why in some fanfics, (like stereotype song ones) people
associated her with India (not that anything is wring with that), even though
she is geographically part of Africa, as is Egypt.
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DeLoreanAndTARDIS [2015-03-02 00:11:47 +0000 UTC]
I agree with ALL of your points! I love Seychelles! She's my waifu!
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kurahpikah In reply to ??? [2015-02-25 12:33:20 +0000 UTC]
Yeeeeeeeeeeeees. Yeeeeeeeeeeeees. I needed this! Seychelles does NOT deserve so much hate for such petty, childish reasons! I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of her because I don't read the web comics and she doesn't/didn't get much screentime, but it wasn't like I hated her. I just didn't know her. And here are all these other girls/guys(?) hating on her for stupid reasons! Thank you for pointing out their stupidity!
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JXCdraws [2015-01-29 02:11:43 +0000 UTC]
I never understood why people hated Seychelles. She's so sweet! And personally anyone that hates on fake characters (Okay, I hate France, but I don't rant insanely. I just keep to myself) has no life or they just want someone to bully.
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Ngus-Art [2015-01-27 01:21:28 +0000 UTC]
I honestly hate it when people hate on a character without a good enough reason. I pretty much love every character in hetalia because they are all different but all amazing at the same time!
Just because a character is different, doesn't make them bad.
Personally I think Seychelles is adorable! I mean! Her whole appearance gives off a cute kid sister design!
Okay I'll shut up now *rolls away*
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xmeowxmeowx123x [2015-01-25 21:24:56 +0000 UTC]
"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Unfortunately, even in the 21st century, people still have illogical arguments like this.
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CreativeSketchbook In reply to ??? [2014-12-25 23:50:43 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU! Honestly...I swear, it annoyed me so much when I read a poll and all the comments from people. A lot of them hated Seychelles, for the stupid reasons included in this!
Honestly, though. And yet the same girls who hate her seek for gender equality (I've checked some stuff out yes)
It's awfully stupid. Thank you for making this! I hope the rest of the fandom sees this!
Oh, and you Seychelles cosplay a are fantastic! Just thought I should let you know ☆〜(ゝ。∂)
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Derpyisme In reply to ??? [2014-12-23 00:58:50 +0000 UTC]
As long as she doesn't touch Iceland!!!! JK :3
She's pretty and Nice how do people hate her?
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Banoonah In reply to ??? [2014-12-13 12:10:18 +0000 UTC]
I used to hate her in my weeab days ;~; someone kill me .....
But now I think she's really adorable >w<
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aha91 [2014-12-03 21:49:05 +0000 UTC]
Agreeing
I like to ship female and male together actually.
Honestly in my opinion, I hate yaoi shipping because I get this feeling that whenever a yaoi ship gets there, in reality, it's like you're stalking two male having some yaoi "stuff" and you aren't getting the love of a male or something... I really don't know how to explaiin it though. We should love both female and male character for having the existence to the aniime or manga. I actually thing that without them, the anime (or manga) would look like yaoi crap or make the anime no meaning of why it is created. Just my opinion <3
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LauraDanger In reply to aha91 [2014-12-23 22:15:23 +0000 UTC]
You can have your preferences on what you like, love, or dislike. However, when you say "in reality, it's like you're stalking two male having some yaoi "stuff" and you aren't getting the love of a male or something...", wouldn't the same go for two females, or even, a male and a female? It's okay to like these things. I'm just saying that if you think that it's kinda stalking two males, should I say the same for stalking a heterosexual couple or a lesbian couple?
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aha91 In reply to LauraDanger [2016-01-26 20:14:46 +0000 UTC]
Yea idk what happen there, apparently someone submit this comment without my permission. Sorry for the confusion.
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BlueGreninjastorm [2014-11-20 05:25:24 +0000 UTC]
This is genius!
I'm pretty neutral with Seychelles, but i don't think she's a sue. Those haters have gone too far on so many different levels. They're always coming up with rubbish excuses to hate her, yet none of the fangirls seem to bash the guys for getting in the way of any yaoi pairing in hetalia. I just wish they could stop being so immature and keep their mouth shut.
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Itzcc [2014-11-02 03:11:44 +0000 UTC]
I never really took an interest in her, but I think its mainly because, "She stole my *country name*!!!" -.-
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Zoeytheunicorn [2014-10-31 20:16:55 +0000 UTC]
I ship SuFin, Which if you think about it, is close to canon. It's close enough to be qualified as 'canon'. Beyond the point. I understand that some people hate Seychelles. I agree with this, But Seychelles isn't my favorite character. I have neutral feelings on Seychelles. I swear, I don't hate Seychelles. But I don't like her or love her either. And I like the yaoi in Hetalia better than hetero ships with the exception of Belarus x England (It's a cute ship, ok? I ship England with other people, too...) I mean, I get where you're coming from with the "Hetalia isn't a yaoi anime." And some people wish Hetalia had at least a little bit of yaoi in it. Like, SuFin for instance (Yes, there are two episodes which has 'Yaoi'). I don't ship Seychelles with anybody. The manga (Vol. 6 to be exact) Says shes a 'Poster Child' for Africa. Which, some people hate her for THAT. The 'Poster Child' for Africa thing. I don't want to get hate for what I just said. But my long rant like thing is a pretty good explanation.
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Merry-Muse In reply to ??? [2014-10-28 09:24:55 +0000 UTC]
I adore Seychelles, she's freaking adorable. I despair when I hear other girls bash the female characters and act as though they shouldn't be able to exist, or have relationships. I play North Italy occasionally, but my FAVORITE character is Ukraine, and I PREFER to dress as female and ship het/yuri. Yaoi isn't "evil," it just...doesn't do anything for me. I don't discriminate against my friends who enjoy yaoi, and they're kind enough not to hate everything with breasts. I think the kinds of attitudes you've mentioned are why so many women and girls leave the Hetalia community. I have a friend who also cosplays as Seychelles, and I actually pair her with my Italy for the sheer fun of it. We plan on doing a photo shoot someday. ;D
Ironically enough, I've been going through similar problems with Ukraine, who I've been cosplaying/roleplaying as for about four years now. Read my journal here and I think you'll understand. By the way, when I cosplayed as Namine from the Kingdom Hearts franchise at cons, I'd get people treating me badly and ignoring me, too. And online it was the same as Seychelles for her; she and Kairi were called "whores," too.
Don't give up on being Seychelles, because that's what the bullies WANT you to do. They want you to give up something you love because it doesn't "fit" into the way they see the fandom. They want to ostracize and control others, and make people cosplaying as women so uncomfortable and afraid that they'll hang up their costumes and close their roleplay accounts. But please, keep doing what you love. It's the best way to fight back, and you have my support.
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