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Description Acrylic paint on 16 x 20  inch canvas board
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Legrande62 In reply to ??? [2019-09-24 10:17:22 +0000 UTC]

several of them actually had little monitors  inside . linked to cameras    , so that they had a good idea of what they were doing and where hey were going

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-09-25 07:15:59 +0000 UTC]

I'd heard that. I saw a video that explained that the Skeksis costumes were basically just a cage with some controls on the inside for the hands and eyes. They were showing a restoration on the Chamberlain saying he'd been kept somewhere with a lot of sunlight which destroyed the hands

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-09-27 00:31:26 +0000 UTC]

Yes , their carapace was really there to hide the performer

At least one of the skeksi was in the front  window of the moving image museum , in london  , years ago  as part of a  jim henson exhibition

that couldn't have done it much good !

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-09-27 06:09:43 +0000 UTC]

I think it might have been the Chamberlain. They said that it had been in a museum in London so I think it's the same one. Here's the vid that mentions it. I think it's a shame they didn't show any pf the actual restoring but it was interesting to see
www.youtube.com/watch?v=92BgIN…

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-01 16:11:22 +0000 UTC]

It could well have been the chamberlain

He was high up in the front window a bit wasted as  the Dark crystal was under represented in the exhibition  and you couldn't   get close to  him , where he was placed in the window

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-02 08:25:45 +0000 UTC]

That seems a real waste, and you would think they'd know enough to store the puppet properly so as not to ruin it.
But it looked like the rest of him held up pretty well. I suppose the face was made from better stuff

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-05 10:54:19 +0000 UTC]

Rick baker mentions that the team who made the Dark crystal puppets , helped him on the apes for Greystoke  and they  pushed the limits of how flexible foam rubber could be , by adding more air and   adjusting the chemical mix

but that led to a foam rubber, that perished in record time 
Th foam on the face is thicker , so it may have lasted longer
Surely they kept the original molds for the faces?

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-06 05:41:14 +0000 UTC]

I imagine the air might also help a bit with the weight too, but it makes sense that it would also make it more perishable. As with most processes, it's one step forward and two back.

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-06 23:57:44 +0000 UTC]

It was very flexible apparently

So I think R Baker felt that getting some good fx on film was  more important  than the masks lasting forever

i notice his american werewolf change -o heads still look perfect  , because they were made from an elastic silicon material

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-07 04:34:31 +0000 UTC]

Makes sense, but it's also a shame that none were able to survive the end of the filming as they make nice souvenirs for the movie. And an example of how they made them back in the day. There's a lot that can be learned from some of them on how they were able achieve the effects they used at the time

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-11 11:53:59 +0000 UTC]

I suppose it's all about , what they capture on film , rather than the preservation  of the make-ups or masks themselves

Only stan winstone seemed to go out of his way to create permanent  copies of his creatures etc  in resin

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-12 02:35:08 +0000 UTC]

I suppose I'm also a bit of a sentimentalist and the idea a keepsake long after the movie is done is just a nice idea.  Like a hard copy of the movie, but it's also nice that it gives you an idea of the scale they used as well.

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-12 12:30:03 +0000 UTC]

That's back to the fact that digital effects seem to leave no real legacy

The Jim Henson exhibitions I've seen are displaying the" actual " Skeksis or Fizzgig , that was seen in the film

Fluffy from Creepshow still exists as a  displayed suit
With digital effects , there's none of that

i stopped collecting cinefex magazine  , because the behind the scenes stills , consists of guys pointing at pc monitors

Very little goes wrong with a digital effect , so there's no funny anecdotes  !

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-13 05:01:36 +0000 UTC]

That's true. Like Doug Jones walking blind on stilts and speaking Spanish in Pan's Labyrinth sounds like both a funny and difficult task to undergo. And poor Bruce Spencer on a horse talking about how Peter Jackson hates him. XD

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-15 12:11:51 +0000 UTC]

seeing james woods totally pissed off , whilst  standing inside a  hollowed out settee , being made up for Videodrome's belly slit scene  would never happen in this day and age of dodgy cgi

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-16 04:27:20 +0000 UTC]

I remember that scene. Videodrome was a weird one!
Cronenberg has a knack for that kind of film.
But practical effects are for the most part head and shoulders above CGI, but only if done right

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Legrande62 In reply to Hippy282 [2019-10-17 10:37:49 +0000 UTC]

Cronenberg is a true original , but apart from the fly and Crash , I'm not struck on his movies

Videodrome seems more confused than  surreal 

I did like Crash though, it was perverse in a good way

the idea of getting sexually aroused by car crashes is  kind of  bizarre 

Grace Jones song , "pull up to the bumper" was inspired by the same book

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Hippy282 In reply to Legrande62 [2019-10-18 04:16:51 +0000 UTC]

It is an odd premise for someone to get turned on by such a bizarre thing.
Videodrome left me questioning reality, which I suppose was part of the point. But Existenz was more critical in that ability.

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