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Trainwrekcomics [2023-03-23 03:39:41 +0000 UTC]
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Lober7 [2020-12-30 02:12:20 +0000 UTC]
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PinoyFish05 [2020-08-05 18:37:57 +0000 UTC]
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Coluber [2019-12-07 17:25:48 +0000 UTC]
What nation do these guys represent? I don't recognize the shield.
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Jjcheetah2 In reply to Coluber [2023-01-25 04:47:20 +0000 UTC]
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maidenfan2001 In reply to Coluber [2020-01-24 20:50:36 +0000 UTC]
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snarkyvampireboy101 [2018-08-26 18:52:06 +0000 UTC]
I quite like how the coat of arms changes... it's like a depiction of the same family over the years.
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Jjcheetah2 In reply to snarkyvampireboy101 [2023-01-25 04:47:37 +0000 UTC]
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Lemniskate [2018-04-16 07:47:30 +0000 UTC]
It's as if between the last two stages there'd been a paradigm shift :3
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Jjcheetah2 In reply to Lemniskate [2023-01-25 04:47:46 +0000 UTC]
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Stargazzer811 In reply to Lemniskate [2018-05-12 08:02:36 +0000 UTC]
There was. By 1610 firearms had been invented, and most European powers were scrambling to adopt them in some form. Gone were the days of the fully clad knight, and in their place you saw soldiers in lighter but better built armor that covered the vital organs and head while giving them more flexibility.
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Dinopithecus [2018-03-14 19:40:50 +0000 UTC]
Awesome! It's nice to see centuries worth of armored soldiers lined up for comparison.
What's the red thing the 1330 knight is wearing on his torso? Is that just cloth or is that actually armor? It looks more like the latter to me, resembling brigandine the most, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Stargazzer811 In reply to Dinopithecus [2018-05-12 08:02:50 +0000 UTC]
You are correct, that is a brigandine.
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FiliusTonitrui [2017-10-31 22:34:45 +0000 UTC]
Thia is one of the best images I have ever seen. Thanks man
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Baron-von-Blau [2017-08-01 13:38:26 +0000 UTC]
This is very informative. I hadn't realized that full plate armour had come so late, relatively speaking. Thank you for creating this.
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TimeToGoHero [2017-07-24 22:40:59 +0000 UTC]
I don't get it, now why did the French or any Euro kingdom for that matter lower their armor to that degree? It's certainly would help them against war fights.
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Torag1000 In reply to TimeToGoHero [2017-08-07 08:37:00 +0000 UTC]
Which one? The period of 1610? At that time, guns and other flexible tactics were becoming better and better and more desired than soldiers in full plate armor. The reason for this is, from watching how the evolution went, is probably because of how expensive plate armor was to produce. You can imagine how limiting that must be if a king were to pay for his soldiers to be suited up in plate armor and the like, and feudalism was essentially gone at that time too, so the economy from the lands being worked by the commoner is no longer theirs and instead it is the commoner's place of land which they will earn money from. That and guns were outdoing plate armor, except the cuirass. The cuirass and the helmet were still quite essential to protecting the main vitals of the body. There are so many factors to be honest that I don't think I can list them all.
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TimeToGoHero In reply to Torag1000 [2017-08-07 11:57:29 +0000 UTC]
Yeah now that you mention I suppose the resources in Europe by the 1600's did become more rare; thus the price had to raised and economy was pretty shot back in those days.
Overall if weapons were becoming more and more efficient, I would think that despite all the cannons and the first use of guns, some heavy armor would still be recommended. Unless the French army figure they could win most of their wars without much armor and more tactics, then I'm very impressed because most regions in the old world (besides Africa and Australia) wore full armor by 1610 or at least the 1600's. So it is very much interesting.
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Torag1000 In reply to TimeToGoHero [2017-08-07 22:42:54 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I suppose so. I'm not that knowledgeable on the economics of that timeline, so thanks for telling me that.
The 1600 armor looks a little confusing but there were heavy armor that were still in use like half armor. Here's an example:Β en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Savβ¦
Yeah it is interesting. But warfare was changing, and so armies and the like had to change I suppose.
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TimeToGoHero In reply to Torag1000 [2017-08-08 23:42:35 +0000 UTC]
Yeah me neither, but I figure I could look it up considering the hunch.
Oh yeah I remember that type of armor...I think normally that was worn in royal guards, in the kingdoms back then as of that point (maybe).
But it is still seems pretty risky, I bet a lot of foreign battalions laughed see the French with that kind of armor...but like they always say "To each their own" in order to survive you gotta improve things to make your life "easier" I guess.
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Torag1000 [2017-07-21 16:42:11 +0000 UTC]
I'm gonna favorite this. It's a good reference for armor
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PizzaPiss [2017-07-14 20:09:19 +0000 UTC]
More like a DEvolution at the end.
It's so sad that there is no today's equivalent to the old full body Plate Armour in terms of being combat-worthy...
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HerbyFox [2017-06-07 19:23:26 +0000 UTC]
As soon as guns appeared...armour just went out the window
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BohemianWolfPrince In reply to HerbyFox [2017-06-11 23:02:16 +0000 UTC]
Not exactly. In the 16th century, the amount of armor was reduced, but what was left was made thicker to better resist bullets. In fact, the term "bulletproof" comes from the practice of firing a pistol or an arquebus at a cuirass to prove its strength to the customer.
Also, firearms were available in Europe as early as the 14th century.
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Pootisman90 In reply to BohemianWolfPrince [2017-07-19 16:56:08 +0000 UTC]
In fact, plate armor was made to be bulletproof. And then the pikes came, and it began being "Pike magnet".
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cursedironfist7 In reply to BohemianWolfPrince [2017-12-04 04:47:40 +0000 UTC]
and it was also in part due to economics. good armor let alone a set that could stop a matchlock bullet was incredibly expensive. only the top brass could afford a bulletproof cuirass and still be able to afford everything else
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Mustache-Twirler [2016-10-31 16:22:55 +0000 UTC]
I really love this post you did on the evolution of Knightly armour.
Actually, I need to thank you for this sheet since it was one of the results I found on google when I was searching for a chart of different armors for each century when I was developing one of my characters a while back. I also wanted to to give you credit for the inspiration by this for one of my posts.
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SolidSamurai [2016-07-10 20:51:49 +0000 UTC]
I was thinking the 1250 knight would have a larger shield if anything, to stop clubs and sling stones.Β Because chainmail doesn't really protect against impacts.Β He might also have looked fatter if he had a thick gambeson underneath.
According to wiki the kite shield was 'completely phased out by 1300' due to the fact that leg armor got good enough.Β My guess is that throughout 13th century, there would have been pavisses and such, leading to a reduction in the popularity of kite shields (the main consumer being troop formations).Β Any particularly brazen knights fighting out in the open probably still used them until that cutting off point (1300 AD).
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Corporal-Yakob [2016-06-15 16:44:03 +0000 UTC]
Cool! I do like how the chronology cuts off before the 18 and 19th centuries, skipping the brilliant successors to practical armour, like "Brightly coloured shirt" and "Uncomfortably tight pantaloons".
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BohemianWolfPrince In reply to Corporal-Yakob [2017-06-11 23:06:37 +0000 UTC]
To be fair, the brightly colored uniforms were necessary to differentiate between different armies because it was extremely difficult to see through the smoke on the battlefield created by volley after volley of musket fire. This is what the term "fog of war" comes from.
Also, I never found breeches to be uncomfortable.
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Primogenitus [2016-05-25 21:19:15 +0000 UTC]
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arbiterofelegance [2015-11-25 19:17:26 +0000 UTC]
this is such an informative and educational work of art. it would be cool to see versions for say, cavalry, archers, pikemen, and the like
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Skoshi8 [2015-10-18 19:33:26 +0000 UTC]
Dropping the steel helmet from the 1650s to WWI was probably not a good idea.
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BohemianWolfPrince In reply to Skoshi8 [2017-06-11 23:09:39 +0000 UTC]
In the 17th century, many cavalrymen actually privately purchased metal helmets shaped like cavalier hats and covered in felt or leather.
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belianis In reply to Skoshi8 [2015-11-01 15:20:16 +0000 UTC]
Indeed! Three pointed hats, shakos and kepis offered no protectionΒ for the head; even the original pickelhaube was only made of leather.
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BohemianWolfPrince In reply to belianis [2017-06-11 23:13:06 +0000 UTC]
Not only that, but WW1 era steel helmets were actually based on late medieval to early modern designs.
The British "tin hat" was based on the eisenhut/ chapel de fer.
The French Adrian helmet was based on a morion or cabasset.
The German M16 Stahlhelm was based on the German sallet.
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