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YAY! Vampires! This is a typical vampire (aka Vamphyri, Whamphire, Stregoi). She has fangs, is undead, sucks blood and even eats flesh (See Brian Lumley, master vampire author), she flies with her big bat wings, and can pick you up like a harpy with her feet (See Vanhelsing, the BEST vampires in the whole world), she is pale white and does NOT have a genetic disease (see Blade), but she can look more humanoid when she wants to (see Brahm Stocker), however needs to drink blood in order to look living (see Anne Rice). She has become a vampire because of Satan and hell (see Brahm Stocker and just about any authentic vampire legend), and, as a result, is subject to the whims of Lucifer and greater demons; in other words, they giveth to her they can taketh away. And then she would be a mortal again, so she has to be evil and only evil people are ever full blown vampires (vampire spawns are a different matter). Or he, I only say she for the pictures sake. Hell has no gender preference when making vampires. She can turn to mist, turn to a vampiric wolf (I imagine they are bat-like wolves and very ugly) they can charm with a gaze, blah blah...you know the drill, we've all read about and seen vampires long enough to know about them. Sunlight, holy stuff, steaks, etc...There are other vampire types, the vampire spawn (see 90% of vampire movies) will come next, these are weaker vampires made by these guys. They are your typical pale white fanged red eyed human who drinks blood, they aren't cool enough to be as advanced as a true vampire. Since they were not created by Hell they aren't as cool and subject to being controlled by normal vampires. More on them later, when I submit their art.
There are Nosferatu, which are the ugly ones, but for my purposes and giving them contrast to normal vampires, they are the insane blood starved vampires or vampire spawns. Cannot fly, no subtle magic powers, but animalistic thirst. Vampires often punish other vampires by locking them away and depriving them, this causes them to become more feral. This will all be explained more later in the Monster Manual nosferatu submission.
And I am also contemplating a "Vampire lord" type, which is this type here advanced in years and power from hellish support. Possibly coming soon.
NOTE: TWILIGHT HAS NO PLACE HERE!! Turn back around emo-fan girls, these are REAL vampires, VAMPHYRI! STREGOI! From HELL! Not sparkly depressed fairies powered by the Mormon god. They don't even drink blood, and can have babies, and aren't undead, and...aren't vampires?
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ah yes, the classic vampire. this brings a joy to my heart (the thing that pumps blood, that's all i use it for)
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I love giving them wings. It feels right. Did you like the vamps from Castlevania Lords of Shadows? I thought they were particularly good. Vanhelsing was another fave with their vampire designs.
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Sorry i have not gotten a chance to experience either of those.
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This very well drawn, but brings nothing new to the table.
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No sir. Just classic badass vampires. Remember when Twilight attempted to bring something "new to the table"? That didn't turn out so well.
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While I understand your hatred of twilight, which probably led you to this overreaction, I still believe that trying new things can lead to good results as long as you leaving at least a few core elements from what you're trying to depict. Take for instance half life's head crab zombies, no one would argue that they don't decide from there parasitic features behave much like the classic flesh eating zombie stereotype. That's what I mean keep Goodnuf of the old that people know what it is and try and do something new with it.
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I don't much care anymore. Twilight had the exact positive effect I didn't see happening. Everyone is making vampires in movies now meaner and monstrous to separate themselves from the series.
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Wow. Finally a thorough vampire reference, based on all those legends, myths and stories we've all come to love, fear and respect as 'vampiric'. And the illustration is made of pure win.
And I agree wholeheartedly with your opinion about twilight. One simply shouldn't mistake 'Vampire' with a misguided definition of 'fairy'. That is inacurate to the point of being simply wrong.
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Quick call Vanhelsing, He missed one .
Coll Pick by the way
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Judging by her expression, that blood mustn't be that good. It's like she's saying "Bleeh! this tastes like spoilt emo!!"
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Yea, vampires hate emo blood. It makes them depressed and isn't very noureshing due to the weak feeble souls and minds of emos. Now goths, on the other hand, are a delecassy. Goths are like emos with balls and more anger and will power, and more badass fassion sense. goths eat emos for breakfast.
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out of curiousity, are there any mechanical undead? Like a golem possesed by an evil spirit or machinery built around some reanimated corpse?
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I don't know if possessed objects count as undead. Flesh golems were often known as constructs. Frankenstein was living, a peiced together man resurected to life through science. We could be hurt like you and me, he was just really powerful and ugly.
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very good. no twillight here.
i am similar, with some higher fantasy themes though, but with a big difference. what is given cannot be taken away. the transformation into a vampire is so deep that no one can just click their figners and make someone a vampire no more. the change is permanent say being sent into death true embrace; what ever created them may rue that day. also other complicated rules.
from what i see, the master vampires, the true ones, are the vampires that were made by the demonic forces directly for whatever reason. and from where i see it, they may well be as powerful as lucifer himself eventually. lucifer, from what i see, is the msot clever and willful of demons, but not the strongest at all.
we are talking on the physical plan, where the guy has a body.
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This makes sense, that vampires cannot be turned to life by demons. But then i will say that they can taketh away but the vampire dies true death reverting to a lifeless corpse.
I cannot, however, accept that the creation is greater than the source. Who ever your, ultimate devil is, they would never make something more powerful than themselves nor could they do it, du to the simple fact that they would have to possess some power greater than themselves to, in turn, make something greater than themselves.
I so with the "demon lords are greater than vampires" theory. Vampires are known as the Prince(s) of Darkness, not the King of Darkness.
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ah, but lords are lesser in rank than princes, are they not? and i guess it depends on what you think the forces or evil are. is it embodied by one being, or is it more primal, a mindless force the tempts sapient beings, and the devil merely revels and uses it for sustenance and strength?
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Well, dude, you've seen my demon lords. In the Hoof Horn and Wing section of my gallery. They are real physical forces, not spirits or undead. Demons in my world are living beings of evil. The greter ones can pervert life and create unlife. To me, they are the source of the creation of unlife. While not being undead themselves they did create it. I don't think a 6 foot vampire is going to do mutch to a 10 to 15 foot demon lord. But then again, as tou say, this depends on how demons are in your fantasy canon.
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my problem with that is if you make a collection or one being as the source of all evil, then one must ask why not kill them and be done with it? hell, humans could kill them all if your world's rules keep in order. what would it take, a hundred humans swarming him with silver weapons? easy, if with heavy costs. and the demons they control won't come to their aide; it would be a decent thing to do, help their master, now wouldn't it?
and if you amke it that, as the source of evil itself they can't die, you break your own rules. the same crime that the likes of dungeons and dragons commits. why wouldn't silver and holy items kill the devil; hell, it should work even more on him than with his minions; evil is evil. but no, the likes of dungeons and draongs don't have the gods doing the obvious thing and making weapons of silver and killing the bad demon guys. tell ya, no they are immortal. even as i point to the twenty foot demon i killed thirty seconds ago, they make up rule saying that the lords are even more immortal. hell, just go assassin's creed on thier asses and be done with it. all the angels would have to do is use Silver against the demons. angels aren't affected by silver.
kind of why i don't have a singular being of evil or good nor gods. kind of obvios how to deal with the ultimate evil. give ezio frekaing hidden blades made of silver and set him loose.
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Well I expect that immortal beings like angels and demons are a little tiny bit smatert han humans, and a bit more prepared and powerful. 20 humans probably wouldn't last through hell, let alone the journey, before getting to a demon lord.
If what you say is true than why did it take whole entire nations to get hitler? He isn't even a demon lord, imagine how diffucult it would be to take out a demon lord. I imagine the resources and knowledge would make going after a demon lord, let alone killing him, porhibitive.
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simple to go after a demon lord. Summon the bastard, and make sure he lands on silver spikes. and hitler had convinced his entire nation to be on his side. demons, they do not trust each other, would kill something like a brother to them for fun, and hate everything, especially those stronger than themselves. they would not defend the dmeon lords if they know the attacking force can kill him.
and if they are, why haven't angels and stuff figured out they could use silver? i mean, come on! this isn't rocket science. it is natural for a being to use something that harms another yet not itself. hell, people would lit themselves aflame to attack if fire could kill the enemy and not themselves. the demons would flee before an army of silver wielding angels. the demon lords would go, oh shit, and try to run as well. and wouldn't silver's effect be stronger in the hands of divine beings; like throwing gas on a grease fire.
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I don't think that's how summoning is supposed to work, and I don't think they're week to silver.
The Goetia explains clearly how ancient magic works with summoning, they are never bound, unless they are lesser spirits, and make deals in exchange for thins. The Compendium Malificarum from the Vatican got a little more to what you are sayong though, but nowhere have I read that demons are weak to silver. You shoule look into these books, you would love them, I do.
The Goetia: The Lesser Keys of Solomon
Grimorum Verum
Maleus Malificarum
Compendium Malificarum
The Keys of the Solomon King
Most of the Kabalistic Majic from the Solomon King are the best and oldest sources, but the "demons" in there aren't demons, this is because there wasn't really such a thing as demons yet. But the Maleus Malificarum and the Compendium Malifacarum are from and age in europe where the inquisition was strong and demonizing everything, so they give the "demon" flavor to Kabalistic Magic. Reading the older stuff the "demons" seem more like advanced beings of knowledgs and sciences beyond us and represent themselves with strange anthopomorphic emblems, liek a banner, but are otherwise human and seemingly immortal, these emblems were miscontruded for demonic forms and BAM demons made, along with various pegan things like satyrs and Nymphs becoming demonized in the intollerance of Christianity. I choose to blend both ideas, for the sake of a fantasy role playing game. In real life, however I think they were just ancient humans of a pre-historic age, I can explain my theories and the eidolons I have found throught this subject, but that's for another time. Fanatasy demons...
I don't subscribe to the, "man commands demons" theory, I think only week demons can be summoned but that's due to an agreement between the demon lords and the warlock. Greater demons are NEVER summoned, because the nature of summoning is not what traditional fantasy says it is. Whe awarlock summons a demon lord it's more like calling him on the phone, it's at his discression to respond or not. If he does it's on his terms and usually he answers to warlocks long associated with him. He often doesnt even come but sends an agent instead. A "transaction" of services or bargain is made, then fulfilled later. They never EVER ask for sould in the old books, they always ask for useful stuff like large bails or wheat, or grain or beef in large quantity, this is because in real life they were trading goods, but for fantasy, I dunno, maybe more devious things? So the circle was made in magic for a mdeium, and to bind lesser spirits, but demon lords would never fell into this categorym, if you were rude to them, or disrespectful or sometimes didn't get to the point they would just leave, and sometimes curse you for inconveniencing them to conme for nothing. I dunno, check them out, they are really fun to read. I think it will clarify things a bit as to the nature of demons, their evolution over the ages from possible humans to red horned evil, and hopw they work within the context of a specific age.
If you want to talk about what I really think of demons, angels, gods outside of fantasy let me know. I have SO mutch to tell.
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i am afraid to ask your real thoughts on the subject to be honest. we would probably still be typign long after our keyboards have eroded away.
ultimately, demons and such are what we have made up. that i am sure. however i am the kind fo guy who believes in much more than an anthiest yet less than any religious person; call me mister inbetween, the gray area. see things that could not happen without some higher power yet rolls his eyes at the blathering priests. not sure if i am in safe waters or trapped between two pissed of wolves to be honest; seems more the latter to be honest, actually asked a priest once why we don't study the devil to know his deceptions. he looked livid, but the best part, he could not answer. and, as i said, some thigns that happen seem to have too great an irony or level of luck to them to be justa regular event; ever heard of the two african maurauders who were killed by the malfunctioning relief crate?
not much else i could say.
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Atheist aren't wolves, I asure you. It would me more like being trapped between a rabid intolerant wolf and a brainy sloth.
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now, that is unfair in itself; religion being a preadtory and atheism a prey item. while i know they are not the norm, a lot of atheists can be equaly scathing to the reilgious, in fact some even more spiteful.
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the numebrs say otherwise. Atheist really are just people who keep to themselves. There isn't anything that unifies us. However religion is unified and doesn't keep to themselves, for better or worse. What I mean about the wolf and the sloth is that one is more aggressive than the other. I'm sure you wil find aggressiv athiest, and im also sure you will find freindly passive christians. But in general one is a wolf and one is a sloth.
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wolves are more aggressive than bears, and which is more dangerous?
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I dunno'. Bears on a bad day wolves on a normal day?
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......... would like to continue but i had a strange vision in my head of an army of angels diong inuyasha windscars with silver swords from skyrim, against an army of scared out of their mind demons......... and one of the angels has a tv, watching vampier diaries, and most of the demons are wearing tshirts with twilight's Edward;s face on them........ i have temporarily gone insane.
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