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On tumblrI hate to be the one to always moan bout good ol times, but seriously... In AC, hidden blade was wow supercool assassin prestige woah! And then came Ezio with his gadgets... Especially the crossbow. There was no point in even getting close to the target when you could just quickly kill them with one bolt, loot 'em and get two or so in return. And then Connor with his default tomahawk... I didn't even pull out the hidden blade during the whole game. Maybe when it was required for full sync. Maybe.
And then Haytham... I don't have a problem with that, ya know. Especially when I finally got to read Forsaken and it makes a whole lot sense. But yeah, the blade was strictly an Assassin thing for me, their signature... and now it's gone.
Okay, I don't really have time to type right now, I got a friend breathing down my neck. She's watching me right now. Technically it's my bday party so I really should go.
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Happy birthday~! I completely agree with you on that. The hidden blade was their signature and representative of their job as assassins. Something secret, in the shadows, to do their jobs quietly and in discreet. Also, the cutting of the ring finger, of all fingers, to show the sign of commitment of the Brotherhood as well as the title of assassin. Then we got Ezio, Connor, and Edward. Even though we could switch to the hidden blade as the primary weapon, it either didn't suit the character or it wasn't heavily paired with the character.
Fortunately, we still have the hidden blade in the first place. We have to adapt to time and its advancements in order to keep the assassin's work more discreet or easier (I think in this case: easier if not more bad ass). Honestly, without the crossbow, I'd be storming into forts and not get full synch due to getting detected.... Oh! Then there was the addition of full synch by completing all optional objectives and not completion of story sequence and the extra side missions. I hated that.
Great artwork by the way. I love how well you illustrate emotion in your works.
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Thank you! I don't have anything to add because you made all my points, except for the fact I didn't think about the ring finger in that way until now and whoa, it makes the whole thing even better. Primary commitment to your cause and only that... gee, much cooler than the original way I thought about it - just a small flesh sacrifice (that also made the using of the blade possible).
Thanks! : ) That's what I love in drawings by others, so that's what I'm trying to put into my own.
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Lol, I know right? I believed there had to be some other reason besides making the blade easier to use by chopping of the ring finger. Why not the middle finger? No, it's the ring one, preferably on the left hand. It gives a stronger impact and reasoning of their dedication to the Brotherhood. My AC1 OC, even though he doesn't use the hidden blade (Don't worry, I'm not going back on the points) he still chops off his ring finger in loyalty to the brotherhood.
Yeah, I'm also trying to force myself to exaggerate facial expressions too.Β More emotion!
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Facial expression is just a small part of it - act out the whole pose, simplify shapes and exaggerate it - at least that's how I pour life into my drawings.
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Do you ever start making the same expression or face on your face of the emotion you're trying to draw out? X)
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Yea. My friend says it's absolutely hilarious to watch me draw. Though it's not necessarily the same face, often not even close XD Whatever helps.
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Then there was the thing about how in Altair's time they would cut their finger off with the blade to show commitment to using it and stuff >.>
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I know, right? Made you think twice before pulling one on a person. And then we had a womanizer Ezio with two blades and all his fingers. Too-cool-for-school, if you ask me. All things come at a price, that's what I like to stick to - otherwise it's pretty Mary Sue. That's why Altair is still my favourite - because he had so many faults in him he had to overcome <3Β
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If i had to say which was the best assassin (not necessarily favorite cuz i think Desmond is actually my favorite) it's most definitely Altair.Β Not just for his contributions to the order but just cuz he lived it the best... after he got over himself and stopped being such a prideful douchecanoe XD
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I never used anything but the hidden blade. ever. Till ac4 when using pistol was fun, but even then i only used the hidden blades so it's a matter of personal preference really
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Yeah, I kept using the hidden blade as well, unless my friend there automatically pulled out something else. And crossbow occassionally - all in all, it was a great and practical weapon. Perhaps made it too easy, but it was very practical indeed - especially in stealth missions.
Tho in ACIII tomahowk became my hidden blade, really. The hb was weak in comparision to it. Loved the fluidity of movement.
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Yah i really liked the tomahawks flow but i also liked the hidden blades one too. I would constantly be switching back and forth between them say if there was an enemy that i couldnt counter kill i would sswitch to the tomahawk because it was faster to hit him with. i liked both really. same goes for edwards dual swords in ac 4. (although i found myself using the HB more than i did in ac 3)
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Yeeeah. Frickin' Haytham.
Hey I whipped out the hidden blades alot in each of those games. Sure the tomahawk was hilariously fun and the gun and crossbow were bunk until the next two games but I still fought 'em off with the blades like the rest of 'em. Even used the sword once and a while out of boredom. If you have just the hidden blade and throwing knives, things can get pretty stale.
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I'm not against the other weapons, ya know. A lound-n-slow 6-bullet gun wasn't that bad either. I mean, it was so terribad as a whole it didn't make a good weapon at all, so using the hidden blade instead made sense. A sword is also practical, can't imagine not having one. It's the glorification of the other weapons that I have a problem with.
I played the games pretty much like you, with the difference that in ACIII tomahawk was my primary weapon. It was a default, I was too lazy to change it and it had the coolest combos. Ya know, I never even used the rope stuffs or otherwise awesome weapons. Guess I'm a simple gal with a simple approach - knock 'em dead with a piece of metal. Can't say it's a bad way... worked for me! XP
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Yeah they do get some serious airtime with the more recent games.
Lolz yeah its combos are especially entertaining. I swear I have loads of fun with it same as the hookblade in Revelations.
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I totally agree that the hidden blade is the Assassins' signature .-. I mean it is either way cuz you don't find that anywhere else but still, it's upsetting that that's not the "#1 cool weapon" anymore with them ;-;
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It's still my main tool even in AC4
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Haahaha, I kept fighting with the hidden blade for the first four games like a retard even tho it made more sense to pull out a sword. ACIII tho I was too lazy to change the default tomahawk and it was somewhat easier to use. Finer combos.
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True that, I've always been horrible at chaining combos X.x
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true story, unfortunately
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or what about black flag where you have 4 guns strapped to your body making entire groups of elites child's play
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Exactly! I hate guns in the AC series, including the crossbow, but mostly guns. Takes the cool out of a sneakish assassin when you can just fire a bullet from afar and bolt. It's not like you have to do that, but there's the possibility and it ruins it for me.
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...You honestly thought than in centuries hidden blade existed Templars never laid their hands on those and used them ? Actually, I find it a very good thing. Hidden blade, symbole, costume, it isn't what makes you an Assassin or Altair wouldn't have had his ass kicked at the beginning of the game, it's the Creed that makes you one. Because so many people think those stuff are an Assassin stuff I was quite happy they showed the absurdity of it by using Haytham. Very smart move.
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No, I did not. However, the fact remains - most of the templars we saw, best example being playable animi characters, didn't use hidden blades. Those remained strictly Assassin weapon and was associatedd with them almost automatically. By no means am I stating a hidden blade makes an Assassin, still, it still IS the part of a legend that has drawn me into the fandom.
I loved the whole plot twist of ACIII - the hidden blade, using the Assassin symbols and my general ignorance as for spoilers & basic knowledge ("Where's Connor? Is that Connor? He doesn't look Connor. They said his name was gonna be Connor. How do I become Connor?") mangified the whole twist tremendously - I wouldn't have it any other way. Actually, unlike Altair in the comic, I'm mad at creators for giving the other assassins weapons that somehow diminished importance of the blade and made it simply pointless to use (as did the crossbow in ACB). I realize I do have a choice as to how I play my game, but for me it took the fun out of it to have weapons that made my fight a piece of cake (Ezio's medicine pouch... god it was impossible to lose a fight in those games. kept exploiting it like a madman but I'm really glad in ACIII Ubisoft kinda went back to the roots in that matter.).
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A fact ? I wouldn't call that a fact. XD Unvisible doesn't mean fact. XD There are a lot of things we don't (or rarely) see in our everyday life, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist or happen. You make way too hasty generalization. Because it never was shown doesn't mean it can't be shown or happened.
I did not know before hand who Haytham was.
Well, what do you want ? That technology advances and that they stay in archaical weaponary just because the hidden blade is a symbol ? I can understand the emotional link, but it's just that, it's based on no rational thought. Beside, in AC1 you had more than just the hidden blade and already there I used it just for the sake of not attracting attention, like in the other games. True, Ezio and Connor had much more weaponary than Altair (or Edward) and that shows them more as "warriors" than Assassins, but let's face it, the hidden blade is only useful in very rare situations if you play "normally", unless you play "assassinly" you never attract attraction but that's solely based on your way of playing and sadly or not it's not the majority. In fights it's better to have something else than a hidden blade. As for AC1 battle system in general, it was already archaical for 2007, I didn't really have fun and considered it a loss of time (wasn't hard, just too slow to my taste) so it's good they improved it. But it's true the "penality" for attracting attention is lower with the improved battle system and it's a bit sad, but I can live with it troubleless.
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Notice how the fact is most of the templars WE SAW weren't using the hidden blade xD I say that's pretty much a fact unless we're talking about different franchise. I don't deny the truth of the rest of your statement. As for the last paragraph, I won't argue with you - it's pointless, really. The point I wanted to make was made and I don't need you to agree with it to validate it. I just miss the times when AC was more about the Assassin legend and less about a lone, much too cool compared to their losses and dedication hero trying to look somehow cooler than the previous one. Still love the setting and protagonist of the first game the most, tho sure it was shit technology-wise. Same thing all over.
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The hidden blade is far from the most effective weapon, so I'm not surprised that even if they layed their hands on them or could fabricate them, they didn't use it when they had so much better weapons at their disposal. I think you see it as "fact" just because it's a game. Well, ACIII proved it was a wrong way to get it. I wasn't that much surprised, there was something off with Haytham and the others so I was "oh, that's why", my reaction stopped at that. XD
Riiiiight...erm...how to put it...Middle Age was Middle Age ? I honestly have no idea how to react to a totally deviated reaction to what I wrote (concerning the technology). XD I'm not saying they had shit... It'd have been stupid to put anachronical weapons in Middle Age. The same way, staying in archaecial system just for the sake of it when the world gets more efficient way of killing is as useless.
You basically have the feeling that the other ACs aren't about Assassins anymore ? Or it isn't enough about the past stuff of the Brotherhood ? I could argue, but...I'm lazy so I'll sum it up in one sentence : you can't have intros over and over, it'd be nothing but a true copy past, exploring other possibilities and approaches are far more interesting.
AC1 is the worst of all AC game wise to me, but it's the best in its own stuff, more into infiltration, thinking, introducing the world. Each AC has several strong points other don't and several bad points of course. But despite the first being the worst game wise, it's still my fav for its strong points and Altair is my fav chara, but I'm fully aware of what I consider flaws. And I like each AC differently for their respective strong points.
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I think you're missing my point. The fact I mentioned was that nearly all templars presented to us didn't use hidden blades. That's as far as this fact goes and it IS a fact unless you played some other series than I have. π: 0 β©: 1
Oh, I meant our-times technology xD Like, AC was a pretty bad game on itself. I should've worded that differently.
To some point, yes, I miss the whole Assassin Brotherhood legend and the Creed instead of a lone warrior in the light of the setting Brotherhood. Pretty far-fetched, if you ask me. But yeah, I undestand the games can't be the same thing all over and it's just my personal preference. I'm not fishing for intros story-wise, more like I don't really approve how the other protagonists seem to be cool from the start, badassery coming to them at no cost (Altair might be a badass from the start, too, but we know he was raised to be one and had to earn it though a hard training. not to mention he gets scolded for being too cocky.), and it's their personal story that's a focus. Like, ya know, Altair was fighting with the Brotherhood at his back, or more or less for its good. Ezio starts our with revenge and with his magic touch he raises an army of random-mob Assassins (don't tell me those are as good as the ones raised to be one... I don't believe that). Connor seems to be a part of every friggin battle that happened in America in his time, like, what the hell. WHY. How is it connected to Assassins? Other than having a common enemy, he doesn't really have anything to do with them. Oh wait - clothes. Coz that makes it all better.
Yeah. Pointless rant, I know. I wouldn't like another game to be the same either, but I'd like another game with an approach to Creed closer to what it used to be. I'm fed up with those lone warriors. Every story is the same.
Templars using hidden blades is rare ? Yes, that I agree to, that is a fact. It's saying none use one that I disagree with.
A lone warrior...well...Connor is the only real "lone warrior". He did take in a few people, but yeah, still lonely. Ezio was always being helped by other Assassins throughout the three games, so no really lonely, warriory ? yes. (and since you don't know aciv I think, I won't tell about that one). As for far-fetched...why ? It isn't because you aren't with a fully developped or any Brotherhood at all you don't believe in the Creed. XD Cool from the start...
Connor kid is anything but cool ? XD Ezio is, yes.
Ezio was raised to become an Assassin too, he just didn't know it. Connor trained for years, but he had bases from his tribe.
Less at the beginning. XD If he gets ripped of his title it's because he was a failure as an Assassin (I honestly wonder how he was able to gain the title in the first place XD) and at first all he wants it's selfishly getting his title back, but during the game he does start to learn. So the first game did focus on Altair's growth (and it's because of his growth he's my fav, because it was the first time I went from hating to loving a character XD so emotional and no rational preference XD), so yup, every AC game focus on the character, just the Brotherhood keeps changing, among other things.
I agree, those random people Ezio took with him aren't "true" Assassins to me, but it has nothing to do with being born inside of it (right now the word to call such a way of seeing things "a real X is only when you grow up to become one" but it's extremly pejorative), or the fighting skills, it's the Creed. How could they be called Assassins if they barely know the Creed ? On the other side, the Brotherhood was almost dead at that time. It's good he wanted to develop it again, and game wise it's logical to have those people with you...but I'd have enjoyed a few cutscenes (or even when you pass by them) where you hear their thoughts about the Creed, the Brotherhood or such just for the sake of seeing them learning to become one.
Whereas Altair started out as selfishness, Ezio out of revenge, both learned thanks to other Assassins around them.
Connor "used" Achilles (Assassin formation), in a way. He was told by a spirit/God or whatever deity his tribe has that the world will be destroyed if the Templars of America live and he was told he'd be able to avoid that disaster by being trained by the Assassins. Once again, like the three characters before, he himself is not emotionally linked to the Creed, but like all the others he eventually becomes one. It's slower and more subtle than the others though... (his revenge toward Charles Lee was indeed an obvious but it was never what made him learn becoming an Assassin, and in the end he's just too disgusted to even enjoy it anyway)
So no, to me each of them has a unique approach. But if you perceived them as negatively, I can't do anything about how you perceive a game or anything, just saying my view on it.
Now, I would enjoy to have a game again where the Brotherhood has even more power than in AC1, after a powerful one, a dying then rebirthing one, a disappeared and the last I won't say for not spoiling you, THAT would indeed really change from the "weak".
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I never said no Templar used the blade. For the past few comments I've been trying to bring to your attention that I was merely speaking of the Templars shown to us in the games. Even then, I believe I used the word "most" templars.
I'm not having this conversation again. Yes, I generalize. Yes, I temporarily forget all of the good things while at that. It is a very ignorant way of looking at things that I have a right to and I don't have to explain myself. For the record, it just makes my arguments shorter and helps me emphasize a point. The fact that you don't see me appreciating the other things doesn't mean that I don't, right? ; ) If we had to incluse every ounce of insight from every perspective, it would make conversations painfully slow and complicated, and we probably wouldn't get to the point by Christmas. I don't deny the merit of your arguments, nor do I have to agree with them. Let's just leave it at that.
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Yeah but see, Haytham took it as a trophy from Miko. That's sadly ironic and it makes the story way more interesting. Killing Assassins with their own weapon. Tragic.
But your Art, man, your friggin Art *O* looks way to awesome xD
*Punch me for thinkingΒ Β Altair were talking about his penis at first. HAYTHAM UR A DICK, literally*
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I do realize that - as I have said, I've read Forsaken. However, that's only recently and this bit of info is withheld from the player in the original game... which only makes the whole plot twist even better. I won't lie - I loved it. But as I was playing, I couldn't help but wonder why the templars - I believe, most of the templars were killing that way when they were your "assassin apprentices", tho I might remember that wrong - were using the blades so characteristic for their opponents. I realize those could be easily replicated and whatnot, tho it doesn't change the fact most templars weren't using it anyway.
Yes, I agree on the cruel irony part. Love lil' tidbits like this <3
Thank youuuuu
Ahahahha why am I even not surprised. Tis' the internet way, I tell you. Anywhere you mention blades and it's a given somebody gotta misinterpret it XD I was having a hard time giving it a title that didn't sound suggestive in my head and eventually gave up. Tho it beats simply "hidden blade" or "Assassin's hidden blade" still.
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