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A member of the Krogan species from Mass Effect fighting a member of the Sangheili species from Halo.Related content
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elites have swords and guns plus the have glassed entire planets arbiter might be able to go toe to toe with a korgan
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Poisons like that don't kill Krogan, they are immune to toxins. Krogan have obliterated entire planets making them permanently unlivable with asteroid strikes.
And that was not elites, that was the covenant, which the arbiter isn't even part of anymore.
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Krogan have loads of guns, and the Krogan had warships until the end of the rebellions but since then the Krogan have allied with the Citadel species, so the Covenant ships would have to go toe to toe with the Human and Turian fleets
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have you seen covenant ship their huge and more powerful than the destiny assceion(sorry spellig isnot easy for me)and there 1000s of them but only humans would be totally killed the rest would be offerd to join the covenant
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did you see the victory fleet? or the Normandy punch a hole through Sovereign
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Hah, is that happened the Krogan would definitely replace the brutes in the covenant.
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The Krogan have better strength, but the Elites have better tactics. Especially if they start using Beam rifles and Fuel Rod Guns.
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Krogans have plenty of good guns, and if lead by a battlemaster, plenty of strategies
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Same thing with Elites, especially the damn Ultra ones which appear everywhere on Heroic. (the standard difficulty of Halo)
I'd like to see a battlemaster with a Graal Spike thrower with 5 blood-pack Krogans tango with an Elite team of 5-6 Ultras led by a Zealot or a general, armed with Fuel Rod guns and Needle Carbines. That would be awesome.
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What about the Grael(idk how to spell it.) spike thrower? It's used to hunt Thresher Maws..Which are bigger than any creature that even exists in Halo. It shoots fairly quick and is moderately accurate.(And can tear through pretty much anything.)
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Hell, I took down the Thresher maw by just pumping it full of lead. If a human can do that, then an Elite can do that too, probably with a Fuel Rod Canon or a Plasma launcher. (or if he's feeling ballsy, slashing out with energy sword from the inside after he let the thing swallow him)
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You can use shitloads of energy weapons and heavy weapons and it would still take about 3-4 minutes of pounding from these uber weapons to kill it. Besides, they instant kill you in ME 1. And take a while to kill even with as I've said, the mako's artillery.
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So? the Graal spike thrower is a weapon to counter Thresher maws, but it doesn't kill them right away. It's the Krogan equivalent of a Rocket launcher. Otherwise, it would kill an Atlas with a single blow, and as far as I've played, even with a level 10 Graal spike launcher, it doesn't kill the damned mech in one shot.
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I'm only saying that I don't believe any of the weapons you mentioned could kill a maw easy. Even then there are weapons with enough firepower in ME to take down reaper artillery, but nobody uses stupid shit like that because it's dangerous and doesn't have enough ammo to be practical.
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A Plasma launcher can do the trick. And it's practical enough that both Elites and Grunts use it. Hell I've seen the people from Roosterteeth take the maw down with a rocket launcher, which is weak as fuck.
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Then we've established that both can kill thresher maws with big guns. I guess we can count them out of the discussion..Poor useless thresher maws..
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They'd be victims of snipers and heavy weapons.
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So can the Beam rifle.
I'd say the Covenant version would be the Fuel Rod cannon, which many Grunts on higher difficulty levels use rather commonly.
Look up Halo Legends. They have Hunters the size of a Gundam.
Also, I can pretty much say a Banshee or a Gauss Hog can take down a Thresher Maw no sweat. If I took one down by just pumping it full of bullets, then Gauss rounds and fuel rod shots can take them down easily.
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What? I've played Halo, the Beam Rifle is no where as powerful as you're making it out to be.
We're talking about Sangheili, not covenant, they've actually been replaced from the covenant, so that technology is pretty much forfeit, as a lone race they can't compare to the Krogan.
And they have thresher maws twice the size of gundams.
Even on normal difficulty it takes tons of Mako artillery and machine gun rounds to take down a single thresher maw, There have been Krogan who kill Thresher maws on foot, as a rite of passage. Besides, neither of those vehicles belong to sangheili.
The fact is, Krogans are stronger than elites, the elites are not better tacticians, They're mooks just like the Krogans, in almost all games and videos their tactics are attempting to roll around, and slowly charging an enemy. Krogan are more durable than elites, with multiple organs, and regeneration. And even mentally, though elites are intelligent, Krogan battlemasters have control of biotic abilities that could sweep an elite off his feet/charge into him like a truck/lift him into the air/smash/crush him before he could even swing his sword.
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"What? I've played Halo, the Beam Rifle is no where as powerful as you're making it out to be."
Then you've obviously never played the game on Heroic or Legendary. Heroic is the real-life canon difficulty of the game, while Legendary makes every Jackal sniper the equivalent of 12 Spartans in battle; even if the sniper shoots chief in his pinky finger Chief drops like a stone, and on Heroic the results are similar, making each Jackal sniper the equivalent of Legion with his M98 Widow. Keep in mind that we're talking about downing Spartan-IIs with one shot here, and each Spartan II is a literal god of war, taking out entire legions, and the Jackal snipers can down them with one shot. Elite snipers using the beam rifle are just as deadly, or perhaps even moreso, since they don't drop like flies when shot.
"We're talking about Sangheili, not covenant, they've actually been replaced from the covenant, so that technology is pretty much forfeit, as a lone race they can't compare to the Krogan."
Bullshit. When they left the Covenant, they still maintained their weaponry and tech from the Covenant. They still have the ships and guns they had under the Covenant. And if we're talking about just he Krogan, without outside interference, they would have never left their world; the Elites already had an intergalactic empire prior to meeting the prophets. The Sangheili clearly are the better civilization. If the two of them come to blows, the Sangheili would just bomb the Krogan to oblivion.
"And they have thresher maws twice the size of gundams. Even on normal difficulty it takes tons of Mako artillery and machine gun rounds to take down a single thresher maw, There have been Krogan who kill Thresher maws on foot, as a rite of passage. Besides, neither of those vehicles belong to sangheili."
Again, bullshit. They helped develop said tech with the prophets. Hell, aside from the Prophets, the Elites were the ruling class of the Covenant, creating most of the weapons and vehicles they had. And as mentioned before, Banshees can take down Thresher maws single-handedly with Fuel rod cannon blasts. Also, very few Krogan actually kill Thresher Maws in the rite of passage; Wrex was the last, and all the other krogan battlemasters couldn't duplicate the feat, which was why Urdnot Wrex stood out as a natural leader. The rest of the Krogan just stand there for a while then the Thresher leaves them alone; that was their rite of passage; to survive a Thresher attack, which is why Wrex killing the maw (and Shepard doing the same thing) earned the respect of the Krogan, as if they did something impossible. Otherwise, taking down the Thresher maw would not have impressed Gatatog Uvenk, and he'd just simply tell Grunt "so you took down a Thresher Maw, big deal, we all did" instead of "holy shit, you took down the Thresher Maw, I respect you now."
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The fact is, Krogans are stronger than elites, the elites are not better tacticians, They're mooks just like the Krogans, in almost all games and videos their tactics are attempting to roll around, and slowly charging an enemy. Krogan are more durable than elites, with multiple organs, and regeneration. And even mentally, though elites are intelligent, Krogan battlemasters have control of biotic abilities that could sweep an elite off his feet/charge into him like a truck/lift him into the air/smash/crush him before he could even swing his sword."
Again, this shows your complete lack of understanding of the Elites. Ever play on heroic or legendary? Especially on Reach, the Elites roll, dodge, throw grenades, retreat, and charge whenever the timing fits. All the Krogan do is charge headfirst; they'd be riddled with Needler blasts and Plasma grenades. Also, biotic abilities do not work on people with shields, making the battlemasters' biotic powers useless. Also, most Krogan opt for Shotguns, which works well if they're in a team or if they're just fighting husks and Reaper troops who charge headlong into battle suicidally, but against Elites armed with Needle carbines, plasma grenades, Beam rifles, and Fuel Rod Guns would annihilate them. Krogans have strength, but Elites have flexibility, which is what makes them superior.
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Use bold to quote me, it makes it easier to follow. (Just type in < strong > without the spaces and then at the end of the quote type < /strong > without spaces.)
Yes, everyone has played the game on Heroic and Legendary, it's a bloody cakewalk of a game on either. There's a reason for that, the covenant are easy, and I never even used their crappy weapons to kill them all. That's right, you can kill them with assault rifles. Regardless of master chief's god of war status (Which seems to only work in cutscenes and his ability to jump really high.) an assault rifle is an assault rifle, and it kills covenant.
Anyone is a better civilization than the Krogan, that's an entirely different discussion, and it's really too obvious to get into, so I'll just disregard anything related to civilization as we are talking about a one on one fight.
I've played the games and I don't recall that being mentioned. I remember it being mentioned that they were intelligent, and had the ability, but because of their culture they didn't focus on tech as much as they could, AND once under the covenant left those advancements to the prophet race.
Seeing as you have no real way of saying what could take down what with what weapons in different universes I can't take that as a valid argument. As in ME 2 there are many Halo like overpowered heavy weapons that fired multitudes of bombs, lasers, etc etc. and none could easily bring down a maw. Nor could straight up artillery fire from a Mako.
I never said it was common, I said it had been done. Just as there are Arbiters who are the best of the best, there are krogans the same way.
Ever play on heroic or legendary? Never ask this question to anyone ever again. I've never met a person who doesn't play on at least heroic difficulty. No, the Krogans do whatever the PC wills them to do, any other Krogan fight has been on the clunky ME1 and ME2 games, and every single character did exactly the same things in those games. This is referring to shitty game mechanics. The few krogan mercenaries you fight in the first two games are no more or less lame at fighting than anyone else.(And most are untrained zombies of some kind anyway.) Comparing the mechanics of a 3rd person RPG to an fps is not a valid argument.
Charge works on people with shields, as does warp, and throw. Krogans also don't rely only on shields, though they do have the strongest shields of all races, they also employ massive battle armor and rocky skin. Krogans also employ grenades and weapon fire just as the Elites do. Along with barriers, tech armor, and other shielding that eliminated effectiveness of every single type of damage.(Laser, biotic, grenades, gunshot etc etc.)
Krogans have strength, elites have flexibility, One is not inherently more effective than the other, and does not make the elites superior. It makes them superior in flexibility(end.)
The Krogan strength allows them to carry the kind of weapons that can destroy atlases and heavilyy shielded banshees with ease. It means they can carry a massive variety of heavy weapons and have little kickback to worry about. You can be as flexible as you want, but that won't make you flexible enough to dodge a bullet.
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Warp and throw only scratch the shields. Also, Plasma grenades and the Plasma grenade launcher. Krogans can't dodge for shit, and Elites can toss them with accuracy, even from afar. So if a krogan stays from afar and uses heavy weapons, Elites can snipe them with beam rifles, assassinate them from behind, or toss plasma grenades at them. If a Krogan charges, then the Elite would just stick him in the face with a plasma grenade and dodge to the side, similar to how Chief/Arbiter can lure a Hunter to charge then sidestep to shoot its back with a sniper rifle. Toro!
Also, all that charge does against a guy with shields is disable the shield and knock him back few steps.....you need his shields off to knock him into the next country. That's fine if you're fighting dumb mercs or Cerberus soldiers, but charging a shielded elite will only piss him off. He'll just stick the guy's face with a plasma grenade or stab him in the face with an energy blade.
Again, their shields aren't worth shit. Direct energy weapons bypass kinetic and biotic barriers with ease, since said barriers are made to stop metal projectiles, which was why the direct energy weapon of the Collector forces was highly prized (and impossible to replicate) in the ME galaxy.
Carry all the heavy weapons you want, but the krogan can't dodge grenades for shit, and that's a picke when the enemy tosses grenades like they're going out of season. Hell, heavy weapons grunts with Fuel Rod guns and plasma grenades can use them easily to dispatch the Krogans. hell, the one problem I had when playing as the Krogans is that I can't dodge.....so if an Elite tosses a grenade at a krogan, it's going to stick right in his face. KABOOM!
"No, the Krogans do whatever the PC wills them to do, any other Krogan fight has been on the clunky ME1 and ME2 games, and every single character did exactly the same things in those games. This is referring to shitty game mechanics. The few krogan mercenaries you fight in the first two games are no more or less lame at fighting than anyone else.(And most are untrained zombies of some kind anyway.) Comparing the mechanics of a 3rd person RPG to an fps is not a valid argument."
Same way you refer to the Elites as just mooks who simply roll and charge. I only play with Heroic/Legendary WITH THE THUNDERSTORM AND CATCH SKULLS ON. Then you're up against the full power of the Elites. See if you can take that. Any Krogan would be littered with Needle-Carbine bullets and with plasma grenades when he walks into the room. even if it's just one Ultra elite, all it takes for him is one grenade. If the Krogan is a Sentinel, then the Elite can use either the Plasma rifle/pistol to take his shields away and lob a grenade in his face.
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Actually you make a valid point with the rolling and the charging. The PC can potentially do almost anything with the elite in Halo, just as you can in ME. So the stupid NPCs are a moot point, especially given two distinctly different game genres.
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The only Krogan who can down Elites like a bitch is the one who walks in with a M98 Widow and a Mattock. That's what I would use if I were a Krogan fighting the Sangheili.
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Or the battle master with charge.
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Well, not so. He charges in, and the other Elites toss grenades in his face. And the Elite he charged is only slightly knocked thanks to his shields, so he can stick in the grenade himself.
The only guaranteed way to defeat the Elites is with a sniper shot to the face. But most krogan don't fight like that, and that's what's gonna give the Elites the advantage.
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But we're talking one on one. The charged Elite is not just slightly knocked. The Krogan's charge is not your average biotic charge, it is much stronger and capable of tearing through shields, and even if it doesn't, he can make his barrier explode in a cascading shockwave for an even longer stun/damage boost, giving him ample time for a crushing charge.
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The Krogan biotic charge still doesn't knock him into the other country until his shields are down. And before he even gets to explode his barrier, the Elite would have stuck his face with a grenade.
And if it's high ranking one on one, The elite would just remain out of sight, cloak, then tag the krogan with a grenade. Or he could snipe 'em, or use a Plasma launcher.
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LOL! Yes it does. The 800 pound truck of biotic energy stuns anyone, It even KNOCKS shielded atlas back momentarily. As in, that little elite would most definitely be knocked back long enough to pull of a claymore shot or a biotic boosted charge.
The krogan is built to sense stalkers, the elite would not be able to walk around a krogan mid fight and not be seen. He's a giant alien, how sneaky can he really be? But the sniper tactic could work, it's all very iffy, it really ruins the spirit of the fight.
I mean we could set up a similar scenario.. A Krogan far out of range with a big sniper shoots at the elite. Because elites have evolved as hunters they have forward vision and senses, made for stalking not prevention of stalking. Then sniped or shot by a rocket launcher.
But that's too specific, one on one, open sight, like this shows. Vanguards unbeatable, Sentinels equal, soldiers ..well, they'd have to use carnage which isn't effective against shields..
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Vanguards.....not so much since armor lock can render the charge useless.
Sentinels, well their tech abilities are as easy for elites to dodge the same way they dodge plasma pistol shots. That tech armor would be enticing to plasma pistol shots and plasma grenades And soldiers.....well shit out of luck.
An elite would just armor lock when he sees the krogan prepping up to charge, then stick a grenade a split-second after it hits.
Elites would duck and dodge. You could be miles away and hit him on the head with a sniper-and his heavy shield absorbs it and he starts dodging and going into cover.
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Wow..Stupidest ability ever. It's from the new games I guess? Yep, can't argue that, but now I'm glad I didn't play anything after 2.
Tech armor does not work that way, it isn't weak to plasma, energy or anything like that. It's equal opportunity shielding. That's the only reason I put them above soldiers.(That and the massive stunning effect of lift grenades.)
So you're invulnerable and completely mobile with armor lock? that's just..ridiculous =/...
No, sorry, don't buy it. If that's how you think it works than a krogan with massive shields and an armored plate would definitely do the same, but just getting into cover and proceeding to charge the elite/throw grenades. But it doesn't, the widow at the head of anything that isn't a mini boss would take it down no problem(And that goes the same for the elite sniper as well.).
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I said immobile.
You can't move with the thing on. But you could withstand a nuke exploding in your face.
Also, in Halo 3, Brute Chieftains have a powerup that lets them be invincible for 15 seconds. Enough to use the Gravity hammer to knock MC into the next country.
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You said it after I sent that lol..In a different comment thread. Yeah, that would work, seeing as it sends a shockwave out it would prevent the krogan from using barrier burst after his charge. Welp that's that then. Cheap ability wins.
Sounds stupid, still though, at least mass effect reserves invulnerability for the last boss like Kai Leng. Then again it's not THAT stupid since Halo takes place about 400 years later. I'm sure in 400 more years ME will be up to par. I mean Kai Leng uses Reaper tech and the covenant forerunner..and they're a lot more widespread.
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Then again, the Covvies had the tech for ages. Like the Asari, the prophets tend to not give the Elites everything right away, lest the Elites decide they're no longer useful and toss them out.
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But the Asari's prothean tech is nothing compared to what the Reapers could bring. Even then, 400 years is a hell of a long time, there's still much more to accomplish, maybe if the technological playing field were a little more even this would be a better discussion.
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I play Krogan on ME, I have absolutely no problem with grenades despite the fact that all Cerberus troops/reapers spam them everywhere. And I use my own grenades just as liberally. Yeah and if an elite stays far away, Krogan can snipe them with a Widow, like the one I use in ME3 to snipe marauders, who are basically carbon copies of elites. (Elites being a much larger target of course.) Sneaking up on a Krogan is not reccomended as they evolved as they can see in all directions. It doesn't work for hunters/phantoms, it won't work for an 8.5 foot 300 pound elite. Any good krogan would stun a sidestepping enemy with light fire , tech armor burst, barrier burst, grenades, carnage, or many of the other abilities at their arsenal before bringing the hurt with a melee strike.
No, a majority of enemies on ME employ shields, and it is more than possible to instantly kill all of them (Save for miniboss types) with a charge. Dumb Cerberus? They are upgraded super agents with reaper tech, Phantoms have twice the flexibility of an elite.
True, but you're missing an import thing about Krogan that other races don't have. Throughout ME games Krogan have used both ARMOR and shields. Armor that is defensible to energy weapons but weak to heavy fire from more practical weapons. AND Geth employ plasma weapons just like the elites, my tech and shields have no problem defending against it.
Grenades were never a problem for me, seeing as I had grenades of my own, tons of damage threshold, and powers. Not to mention the ever powerful biotic charge in my arsenal.(And when I do happen to get hit by a nade, I'm almost always standing when everyone else has been downed..Krogan durability at it's finest.)
I'm up against the full power of game mechanics tailored specifically to challenge players who are desperately trying to prove something.(Played legendary but not with whatever you're talking about.) You can't "take away" a sentinel's shield. It's a tech shield, it stays as a constant damage reflector regardless of what type of weapon is being used against it. All of your potential scenarios are making it as if the Krogan is standing there waiting for his shields to get down so he can hit the grenade. He'll throw his own grenades in, or biotic charge into the elite, or blast him with the claymore etc etc etc.. Not that the elite wouldn't be shooting him the whole time, but Krogan are durable as fuck, could take cover and regenerate shields and health, could use charge to regain shields. Many of the abilities are impossible to counter, you can not counter a biotic charge. You can not counter being stunned by tech black or barrier blast. You are just stunned, where a krogan can blast you open or crush you.
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I mean sticky grenades that stick to your face, shields or no.
And armor is useless when the enemy sticks tank-busting grenades to your face. And again, considering Krogan size, it's easy to stick their face with a Plasma grenade.
Those shields and barriers cannot bock direct energy weapons. And even if they do, Covenant plasma weaponry is good against shields overall.
And also, I was talking about the specops elites who can cloak. PERMANENTLY. They could just stab the Krogans from behind, just as Phantoms on Gold level sneak up on Krogan players and assassinate them from behind. I've seen my share of that happening, when I looked at my Krogan companions and they got assassinated by a Phantom while he was firing on some troopers. Also, Kai Leng earned his prison sentence (and the Illusive man's astonishment) by killing a Krogan in a barfight with a knife. And each Elite is as strong as your run of the mill Spartan, so in reality, an Elite and a Krogan going into fisticuffs isn't such an imbalanced fight. It can go either way.
Durable as fuck wont help you if the enemy lobs tank-busting grenades in your face. Also, those abilities the Krogan had, like biotic charge and tech powers, are only used by the highest ranking Krogan. The Krogans in multiplayer are spectre-level Krogans while the "tank bred failures" and "weak clans" are the typical Krogans. And een the high level Krogans can't stand up to squads of Elite ultras lobbing grenades at their faces and Specops elites stabbing them from behind while they're distracted by the Ultra elites. You can charge and overload them as much as you want, but one grenade to the face and it's game over.
Which is why when I play as a Krogan, I carry all the heavy weapons and sniper weapons and stand at the back. I only charge when an enemy gets too close, or if i need some space to snipe with the Widow. Instead of the Claymore, my krogan's best friend is his M98 Widow. Drops bitches with one shot, no matter how close or far. =3
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I know what you meant, you can still see them coming, and even so, like I've said, Krogans are one of the few bastards tough enough to survive direct grenade hits. (On gold I'd say they're the only ones.)
Run forward, the grenade his just missed.
That dead Geth hunter begs to differ. No argument there, but Krogan health is just as durable as their shields.
I've never seen that happen. What I have seen is an overzealous Krogan get stabbed while engaging 3 or 4 guys..But noobs will be noobs.(Will admit it happened to me before..before I know about phantom's assassination.) But that's a high risk high reward, because despite that phantom's dodging, I've smashed my fair share, and as I've said, phantoms are much more flexible and a hell of a lot less hefty than an elite. Besides that Gold is not the average, it's hardcore. Campaign normal-hardcore is the realistic side and normal is more like bronze imo. I think it's a matter of luck, if the elite has got enough room before the krogan has closed he's golden for a sword strike. But more often than not even dodging doesn't help that splattered phantom or potentiall splattered elite. And even when dodged, I recuperate with a quick headbutt to the would be assassin phantom.
That's Kai fucking leng, he is the boss of the already uber phantoms, and pretty much the last boss of the entire series. And still Kai leng is much more limber, quick, agile, clever than any elite I've seen. That advantage is lost on something as massive as an elite, as Krogan say, they're at their best killing big ass monsters.
I just can't see a fist fight between the two being equal, anything else can possible go in either direction but not that. Reason for my opinion is that ODST can tackle an elite down, it's not a matter of strength, it's a matter of fortitude. When a banshee erupts her massive shockwave, everyone falls but the krogan, there's a reason for that. Krogan would stay on their feet, the elite does have reach, but the closing speed of a krogan charge would change that.
And one frag grenade can down an elite, it's true, when it comes to grenade spamming elites are the best LOL. Those tank bred failures and zombies in ME1 and idiot clans are not typical, their the shadow of what they were, and not worth shit to true krogan. Krogan clans are worth more than any others despite their tiny population. The Krogan numbers were needed to pilot the fleets that were weak in comparison to the superior pilots of other races, But on the ground, even a portion of the small population of Krogan is a more powerful asset than almost anyone else.
I carry the same, Widow and Claymore, sentinel, pure health, damage, and lift grenades, for that AOE stun..(Just don't like incinerate like I do carnage.)
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With that big face, the grenade would stick. Also, as for Kai Leng, Elites are as strong as Spartans, so yeah. It really can go either way.
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Haha, Yeah Krogans do have some big heads. I never said Kai Leng was strong, Well..he is strong enough to punch through steel but that's later on. Mostly he is agile which gives him the advantage over a big drunk Krogan that can't keep up with someone that small and quick. Strength does not equal victory in a fight, if that were so then bodybuilders would be able to beat people in mma or boxing. The difference is Krogan have armored bodies, are over twice the weight of a sangheili and have boneshattering headbutts. Even though in physical force and strength they may be equal, the elites have no physical equivalent to krogan plates. They're physically inferior. It's their armor and advanced weapons that would make the difference.
Krogan vs elite hand to hand match would not be equal. I mean hell you'd have to actually destroy two sets of organs to actually ever truly win, and if the Krogan's bloodlust takes hold then you're looking at twice to three times the strength and durability.
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That doesn't work well when every Elite has arm-mounted energy blades that could punch through that plate.
Again, arm-mounted wrist blades. He could punch through that plate or his gut, fillet him like a fish. (no pun intended)
if I were a krogan fighting an elite, I would bring a knife too.
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Yeah but that isn't a fist fight, that's an arm mounted energy blade fight.
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Which the elites do not leave home without.
Keep in mind, Elites are just as strong as Spartans. And Spartans can lift tanks.
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Good for them, I guess they leave him without honor then? Seeing as they'd use a high tech energy blade in a fistfight? But then, why didn't the arbiter do that? Oh yeah, because Elites do have honor.
Again, don't believe it to be anything more than physics as a fail safe for the easy to flip vehicles.
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No, it really is in the canon. Elites = Spartans. Spartans = tank-lifters.
Also, not all elites are honor bound as fuck. Some are, others are combat pragmatists.
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Then the lore of this game isn't worth shit as it is grounded in a reality that denies physics.
That's one of the only qualities I truly ever admired in the elites, basically the way you describe it some are no better than a brute..which is disappointing.
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It's not denial of physics. Superman doesn't weigh 1000 tons, but he can pick up a plane. Sangeili are just similar.
Scumbags and pragmatists come from all races and walks of life.
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LOL!??! Are you seriously implying superman had realistic physics? I just tend to expect more from sci-fi.
Indeed, but how common is it? It's just like the Krogan scientists, it's not really part of their culture to be that way.
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