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Published: 2014-09-10 03:51:33 +0000 UTC; Views: 4089; Favourites: 107; Downloads: 69
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While working on some video game ideas (new project, not revealing yet), I was browsing for shotguns designs and found this Darne shotguns (GOOGLE IT, THEY ARE AWESOME!) and thought that it actually looked pretty interesting. So I created this: a pump action (this only pops the bullets out, no magazine underbarrel) double barrel shotgun, with the extraction and cocking mechanism of a Darne, but with the practicality of a Mossberg, all in a classic silver-gold-wood packaging.What you guys think? (and if you want to help me give a name to it, you are welcome too)
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Generally, double barreled shotguns (or even single or triple barreled) don't put focus on rapid fire, as being firearms more associated with hunting or sportive shooting, activities were the unwanted release of expended shells are both bad to the enviroment and don't allow handloading (more common with exotic ammunition or calibers). These weapons are also more simplistic in design, with having fewer moving parts and compact firing mechanism, meaning that their lifespan, precision and maintenance is creatly expanded, as with maneuverability and concealability with shorter or sawed barrels.
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LOL! I get that people thinks that this would smash their skull, but this model had its stock sawn off, nobody should hald ANY hun that close to their faces anyway. (hell, people still gets blackeyed by rifle scopes, why should I be surprised)
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break wrist doesn't have the same ring too it.
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Very interesting concept! But don't forget to Warn the buyers;"They shouldn't hold that rifle very close to their Faces/eyes...Never!"
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THAT LOOKS REALLY STRANGE AND I CANT PIN DOWN WHY.
Oh wait, it's because how the hell do you load a shell with pump action in a double-barrel shotgun?
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LOL. The pumping thing serves only to move the firing mechanism backwards, thus extracting the shells automatically... basically a Darne with the lever replaced by the backward motion of the handguard (like its written on the description).
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That seems... a bit backwards. Replace a 5-6 shot mechanism with a mechanism that replicates the action with a 2 shot mechanism? By the way, do you load your shots with your left or right hand on this one? Assuming you hold the pump in your right hand, of course.
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You load it as you wold do in ghost loading on a normal pump shotgun: the hand that pumps it backwards grabs the shells, put them into the chamber and pumps it back forward, everything without letting the other hand out of the grip. A video that might interest you:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TafnrE…
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But, like, replacing 6 shots for 2! WHY?
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Its not replacing, the only thing that is similar to pump shotguns is the forend motion, it lacks all the other basic things that would make it a true pump shotgun, like a magazine tube and a loading mechanism... besides, questioning "why not 6 intead of 2" is the same thing as questioning the existance of single shot pistols if there are magazine fed pistols.
In this case, you can discharge both shells at once, like any double barrel shotgun with two triggers, and firepower aside it has less working parts, being theorically more reliable, easier to maintain and (not necessary) cheaper, and if you happen to have a misfire, the next round is already there to cover you up.
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... I always forget about the misfire and mechanism maintenance stuff. Makes sense.
I'm now thinking of a shotgun with every possible reloading mechanism on it, even the redundant ones. Like, a lever and a pump, that tube magazine leading to a revolver cylinder, which then still has single-action hammers for dual barrels on top.
Shit, I just thought of the stupid way that'd work. It'd be a stupidly complicated reload, but still.
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Believe me, even the worst and/or strange ideas on gun design might already have had chance of production one time or another...
Like the Dardick 1500 pistol/revolver hybrid, overly complicated, odd choice of cartridge, you name it:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKE2Yw…
A brass knuckle, a knife or a revolver? Its an Apache Revolver, handy but strange:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FIi8W…
A glove pistol (yeah, like those in Fallout, just not as bulky):
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hkmc0…
And much more...
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THAT GLOVE PISTOL GAVE ME AN IDEA.
I do boxing and after some time you notice that the recoil on punches hurts your wrist and hand but not your forearm. This is because your hand is a collection of several small bones, designed to manipulate objects and hold things, while your forearm is a set of two large bones, designed to hold your hands on and not break. SO THE GLOVE GUN SHOULD BE A GAUNTLET, WITH THE GUN ANCHORED ON THE FOREARM. It'd fit like a glove with a sleeve to your elbow, so you get a longer barrel on your forearm than just a small glove. This would allow for some degree of armoring as well as a gun, and the barrel would stop about halfway up the back of your hand, so as to not hit your hand with gunfire. That part of the glove would still be very, very tough though. What follows, then, is a trigger lined on the knuckles. A trigger parallel with the gun might go off. It'd look basically like a brass knuckle, but without rings and one curved surface instead that protrudes forward from the knuckles. The backwards stress from this would trigger the gun, and the way it's anchored would make the recoil pull your arm back and out to the side, friendly to the elbow and shoulder. The momentum from this can be transferred into your other arm for ANOTHER PUNCH, by swiveling your hips like boxing. You can flip the trigger to sit on the back of your hand or remove the trigger ring entirely, as a safety mechanism on the gun.
Now, how to reload? Would it be a belt that wraps around the arm, sitting on a magnetized chain track that travels in a spiral down the upper arm? The answer is MAYBE BECAUSE THAT WOULD LOOK BADASS and also probably provide upper arm protection too. All this, and you can hold a regular gun too.
The magnetized track would be composed of polymagnets, so as not to disrupt any electronics and also hold the shells tightly. You might need customized cartridges to fit the track.
I'm imagining it chambered like a shotgun, for reasons of YES.
stress testing would be necessary, both for the gun and the human arm. You might need shock absorption so as not to dislocate your elbow, or some kind of spring mechanism to absorb some recoil.
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The impact counterbalance perspective is a good live o thought, as shotgun shells offers relatively low recoil in exchange for devastating power, also, the spread would balance the obvious issues with aiming, since it is easier to aim with your hand than with something straped to your forearm. I had already scraped many ideas about how something like this would work, and I must say, its a VERY situational gun.
If it is triggered by contact, the gauntlet idea is not bad, but its protusion over the hand would limit movement, what would be bad in a hand-to-hand situation, besides, there must serious issues with accidental discharges and the use of the gun against its own user.
The belt ammo would look cool, yes, but the use of live bullets as clothes, specially as armor, is dangerous at best, since impact can discharge it and damage can render it worthless (like the Bullet Farmer hat in Mad Max: Fury Road).
One way to give light to it in a more feasible way I think would be a mash between the Sedgley Glove Gun seen earlier and the Belt Buckl e Pistol ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZhHW3… ). The result wold be something portable, with multiple shots, mechanicaly simple and resistant against impact. Another idea would be the use of hamonica type of magazines, since they are sturdier than a belt system and easier to reload while functioning almost the same.
BUT, if you are aiming to absurdity, this could be a gauntlet mounted shotgun with a feed chute ( www.standardarmament.com/image… ) extending back to a backpack ammo source. If impact is a concern, just throw in an exoskeleton for add strength (or, at least, an arm strap like this one: images.esellerpro.com/2189/I/1…
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The protrusion forward is on a horizontal pivot, so you can flip it backwards over the hand as a safety mechanism. The whole belt idea is less to provide armor and more to have a large quantity of ammunition without sacrificing mobility.. The trigger'd only be able to go off when the hand's in a fist, then, which prevents blowing off your fingers. It'd be a very close "punch gun" basically, to annihilate at very close range. I'm imagining it used for breaching as well, one hand for a sidearm, another hand gun punching a sore down with a breach round. I like shotguns specifically for the variety in ammunition.
Taofledermaus and other guys on YouTube have fun loading crazy shit into their shotguns, from Legos to bubblegum. Don't underestimate the potential of paper clips and dimes loaded into a shotgun.
I write apocalypse fiction. I get inspiration sometimes.
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I like your ideas pretty much and I, too, am a fan of apocalypse fiction.
And never underestimate the power of magnetic beads or silly putty shot from a mossberg... never!
(If that wasn't obvious, I'm a big fan of Taofleder)
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Shotguns are just modern blunderbusses and that's perfectly okay.
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pump not a www.forgottenweapons.com/early…
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Loved the firearm, thanks for the link!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2C5eK…
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I have no idea how guns work (though I kind of wish I did), but it looks nice.
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Thank you, that really means a lot to me!
Most guns are quite complex, if you want to learn about how they work, I sugest you start from double barrel shotguns, to revolvers, to pistols/rifles, then into pump/lever action shotguns and machine guns. Youtube and the HowStuffWorks site also helps a lot, believe me!
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Thank you for the suggestions. I'll make sure to actually get down to learning those.
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