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First of all, this image needs several disclaimers.Disclaimer one: The fullsize image is ridiculously large. It's 5,000 pixels wide, and it's still only 25% as wide as the original PSD.
Disclaimer two: This image was made only to satisfy my own curiosity about the comparative sizes of extinct animals. I was not extremely precise. So, the relative sizes of the animals are probably not extremely correct.
Disclaimer three: I got most of the images from which I took these silhouettes from Wikipedia, but for some of the animals I wanted to include there were no images on Wikipedia, so I had to do a Google image search and take the silhouettes from there. I don't remember the sources of any of those images. I don't claim that any of the images from which I got these silhouettes belong to me.
So yeah, anyway, as I read through Palaeos.com some time ago, I was struck by how unexpectedly large some prehistoric creatures were. For example, Eotitanosuchus is estimated to be about 6 meters long, Prestosuchids were over 7 meters long, and some Phytosaurs were up to 12 meters long. I did not realize that some pre-dinosaurian land animals got this large; the fact that some Phytosaurs got as large as the later, more famous huge crocodylians was especially surprising. This, along with my long-held fascination with the sheer size of ancient animals, led me to make this image. Like the first disclaimer says, I made this only to satisfy my own curiosity, without worrying about whether it was 100% accurate.
UPDATE: Added Scutosaurus, Archelon, Megalodon, Great White Shark, Whale Shark, Deinosuchus, Andrewsarchus, and Kodiak Bear.
The species.
In the water: Anomalocaris, Isotelus rex, Cameroceras, some large Eurypterid, Dunkleosteus, Prionosuchus, Cymbospondylus, Shonisaurus, Nothosaurus, Temnodontosaurus, Leedsichthys, Kronosaurus, Koolasuchus, Hainosaurus, Elasmosaurus, Archelon Basilosaurus, Megalodon, Blue Whale, Sperm Whale, Giant Squid, Colossal Squid, 7-Armed Octopus, Orca, Great White Shark, Whale Shark
On land: Eryops, Dimetrodon, Cotylorhynchus, Edaphosaurus, Eotitanosuchus, Moschops, Inostravencia, Scutosaurus, Erythrosuchus, Cynognathus, Large Phytosaur, Placerias, Ornithosuchus, Saurosuchus, Postosuchus, Desmatosuchus, Coelophysis, Plateosaurus, Dilophosaurus, Shunosaurus, Stegosaurus, Mamenchisaurus, Diplodocus, Amphicoelias, Ceratosaurus, Allosaurus, Camarasaurus, Brachiosaurus, Baryonyx, Utahraptor, Spinosaurus, Deltadromeus, Giganotosaurus, Carnotaurus, Tyrannosaurus, Therizinosaurus, Iguanodon, Large Ankylosaur, Walking Azdarchid, Shantungosaurus, Lambeosaurus, Triceratops, Deinosuchus, Titanis, Elephant Bird, Dromornis, Ostrich, Brontotherium, Andrewsaruchus, Paraceratherium, Daeodon, Paleoloxodon, Deinotherium, Imperial Mammoth, Giant Camel, Megatherium, Elasmotherium, Daedicurus, White Rhinoceros, Giraffe, Moose, Megalania, Komodo Dragon, Human, African Elephant, Kodiak Bear
In the air: Pteranodon, Azhdarchid, Argentavis
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Comments: 148
reverse meg and basilasaurus shink the ichyasaur a little bit and make Paraceratherium bigger make tusotuthus a lot bigger and add
sarcosuchas and itd be perfect love it
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Ah man, this was excellent! I have a real fondness for comparison charts (my own scrawlings are replete with them), and this one really goes a long towards putting things in perspective. I never really thought to compare creatures from such different eras with one another - like, in my brain I would recognize "this is such and such a size" and "THIS is such and such a size", but unless I'm looking at everything together at once it doesn't really... click? Yeah, that makes sense, I think.
Seeing how much Moschops towers over the others really gives me new respect for dinocephalians - not that I didn't already have wads of respect for them anyways. I'm faving this one for sure.
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Thanks, man! It's exactly those sorts of feelings that led me to make this image in the first place!
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The Giganotosaurus is a tad TOO large. The holotype is a 12.3 meter long animal, and the largest specimen, based on a maxila, is about 13% larger, giving us a 13.2 meter animal. Compared to Sue's 12.8 meters, I'd say it and Tyrannosaurus would appear the same size.
Also, everybody forgets about Fasolasuchus, or even Saurosuchus. Postosuchus is puny compared to those relatives, the former being Allosaur-sized. In the Triassic. A non-dinosaurian land predator.
Speaking of Allosaurus, Epanterias has pretty much been merged into it. Fully grown size is up to 12 meters.
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Sue wasn't 12,8m, more like 12,3m. And I really doubt that the largest Giganotosaurus found so far was 13,2m, with a smaller specimen of 12,3m. I think that the first specimen was 12,5-13m, and the second specimen +13,5m.
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Beg to disagree with what you said (and with what I said two years ago).
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MUPCv-ch1 may have been up to 13 meters, according to Gregory S. Paul, and then MUPCv-ch1 may have been more than 13.5 meters.
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Yeah, like 17 meter Spinosaurus; you give them fucking long tails and that happens. We have the midsection of Giganotosaurus, and that's a good enough measurement of "size". As for the second specimen, it is just a chin. Not going to give us much data.
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I think that saying that it may have been just a specimen with a large chin is too speculative. It may have been even a specimen with a proportionally smaller chin, thus 13 % larger (just saying) who knows? I think that it's better to use reported figures for MUPCv-95.
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And assuming it is a significantly larger animal based on a single bone is also very speculative as well. It may be a larger animal, it may be a large chinned animal. Stan has a head almost as large as Sue's but is significantly smaller. Going by absolute estimates is not a wise choice, as different scaling methods may be behind them. Take a look at the usual reconstruction of Giganotosaurus, which has an unjustified temporal fenestrae just so it can be larger.
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Saying that it had a large chin is as speculative as saying it had a small chin. To be safe, we should go with the reported figures (6.5 % larger, according to Hartman). It may have been 15 m or just 11 m, who knows? I guess we should go with a 12-13 m figure based on what we have (I rounded 12.4-13.2 m from Hartman, as the beast we're talking about is fragmentary).
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Speaking of Cenozoic creatures what about adding Argentavis, Haast's Eagle and Gigantopithecus
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Argentavis is there. It's in the air between Lambeosaurus and Indricotherium. Good idea with Haast's Eagle and Gigantopithecus, though!
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thanks, those two don't get enough recognition in my opinion, hmm what about glyptodonts and chalicotheres
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Why did animal size decrease through the ages?
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I believe it's at least partially due to a higher concentration of oxygen in the ancient Earth's atmosphere, thus allowing animals to grow larger. You'll probably get a more precise and knowledgeable just by doing a Google search, though!
Thanks for the interest!
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According to Wikipedia, Liopleurodon only got to about 20 feet in length, while Kronosaurus got to 30 or 40 feet in length. Since this image is concerned with the biggest of the big, I went with the larger pliosaur.
And anyway, I like Kronosaurus more. It was the representative pliosaur in all the dinosaur books I read as a kid. Lipleurodon is just some upstart that only got popular when a fantastically oversized version got shown on Walking With Dinosaurs.
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Aww that's sad. I wish Liopleurodon was as big as we used to think it was
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Yeah, it's always disappointing when scientists reduce size estimates to more smaller, more "reasonable" numbers.:\
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No scientist ever claimed Liopleurodon got that big, that was a complete fabrication from Walking with Dinosaurs.
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Amazing diagram! I'm impressed. it must have taken you a long time to complete it. I too am very curious about the size of prehistoric creatures relative to everything. xD
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Thanks! Yeah, I'm fascinated by the size of prehistoric animals as well. That was my main motivation for creating this, in fact.
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Incredibly epic picture!! Seeing the huge silhouette of those shark-looking ones made me queasy! xD
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Haha, thanks! Yeah, they're scary!
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Hours and hours. Don't know exactly how long!
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Thank you so much for making this!
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Sure thing! Thanks for looking!
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If I want I can expand and enhance your image, because personally I find it quite interesting and a great idea. That exercise would be happy and dedication.
Undoubtedly the most famous and can be useful if it works well.
Greetings, I hope your answer with respect.
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Sure, you have my permission to update this image. I look forward to seeing it!
Would you like me to send you the full-size PSD file? If so, send me a note with your email address.
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Te envío la lista mas o menso completa de mis observaciones. Tu composición me ha gustado mucho y por eso participo.
Te envío algunas imagenes:
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Los géneros que creo que faltarían en tu lista o sus correcciones inmediatas serían:
Amphicoelias. Su tamaño se reduce según nuevos descubrimientos, pues la vertebra en vez de medir 2.7 metros serÌa de 2.1 metros.
Andrewsarchus. Su cabeza no medía un metro sino 83 centímetros.
Anteosaurus. El mayor de los terápsidos carnívoros, 95 cm cráneo.
Artodus. El mayor oso conocido, sus patas eran largas
Brachiosaurus nougaredi. Un dinosaurio más grande que el mismo Sauroposeidon.
Bruhathkayosaurus. El mayor de los dinosaurios conocidos hasta la fecha.
Carcharodon megalodon. MedÌa 16 metros y en la escala parece que tiene el mismo tamaño que un Cachalote de 25 metros.
Cedarpelta. Es mayor que Ankylosaurus.
Colossochelys. La mayor toruga terrestre.
Cyanea. Hay una especie de medusa de 40 metros de largo, que vive en la antartida.
Dandakosaurus. El mayor terópodo del Jur·sico inferior.
Deinocheirus. El terópodo con los brazos más largos, empatado con Therizinosaurus.
Diomedea. El albatros tiene la mayor envergadura entre las aves actuales.
Diprotodon. El mayor marsupial que conozco, creo que fue superado por otro género del cual no me acuerdo.
Dromornis. El ave más pesada conocida.
Elephantosaurus. El mayor de los animales terrestres del Paleozoico.
Eretmotherium. Creo que era más grande que Megatherium.
Erythosuchus. El carnivoro terrestre no dinosaurio del Triásico.
Gigantopithecus. El mayor primate.
Gresslyosaurus. El mayor de los prosauropodos.
Hatchegopteryx Un pterosaurio mayor que Quetzalcoatlus
Josephoartigasia. El mayor de los roedores.
Kelenken. Era mayor que Titanis.
Kryostega. Su cabeza de 1 metros lo convierte en un competido muy próximo a Prionosuchus, este genero no tenía alargada la cabeza a pesar de su tamaño.
Lineus longissimus. Según record guiness es el mas largo de los gusanos conocidos con 55 metros.
Liopleurodon. Mucho mayor que Kronosaurus.
Mamenchisaurus jingyanensis. La mayor de la especie del gÈnero, supera a Mamenchisaurus sinocanadorum.
Mauisaurus. Mas largo que Elasmosaurus.
Megaloceros. El mayor de los venados.
Megistotherium. Muy grande, su cabeza medía 65 cm de largo.
Ornithocheiridae Brasil. Mayor que Pteranodon
Procoptodon. El mayor de los canguros
Purussaurus. El mas grande los caimanes.
Pseudodontornithidae de Venezuela: Mayor que Osteododontornis.
Pterosaur Solana España. Mayor que el mismo Hatchegopteryx.
Phytosaurio gigante: No me acuerdo de su nombre en este momento pero tenÌa una cabeza de 1.5 metros.
Rhamphosuchus. El mas largo de los cocodrilos, es un gavial.
Sarcosuchus. Del mismo tamaÒo que Deinosuchus.
"Shonisaurus Canada". Mayor que Shonisaurus.
Saurosuchus. El mas largo de los tecodontes.
Sigilmassasaurus. Un iguanodonte gigantesco, se creyó terópodo.
Torvosaurus sp. Portugal. El mas grande los terópodos del Jurásico.
Turiasaurus. El mas grande de los antiguos saurópodos.
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Thank you so much for your compliments and extremely detailed feedback, Existoo! I had to use an online translation service to read them, but that's okay.
While I certainly do appreciate the pains you went to to give me all this information and suggestions, I think you've overestimated the seriousness of this image. It was made mostly just to satisfy my own curiosity and fascination with the size of prehistoric animals, and now that curiosity has largely been satisfied. I also have quite a few images and projects, both personal and professional, that are a higher priority than this.
If I do decide to update this image someday, though, I have no doubt that I will find your comments invaluable.
Thanks again. Hopefully you'll be able to understand or translate my words well enough.
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Ups. Me equivoqué con Anteosaurus y puse Anthodon...
También faltaría Colossochelys, Megacerops, Megistotherium, Procoptodon, el Pseudodontornitidae de Venezuela gigante de 7 metros que fue mayor que Osteododontornis, Arthropleura, Liopleurodon y Eotriceratops. Ugrosaurus es un Triceratops de la talla de Eotriceratops, ambos con 2.7 metros de cabeza a pesar de su gola corta.
Andrewsarchus tenía una cabeza de 83 cm pero por error siempre lo presentan como de 1 metro. En cambio Daeodon si tenía una cabeza de 1 metro por lo que la escala es errorena. Anteosaurus, Erythrosuchus, Kryostega si tenían una cabeza de 1 metro mas o menos.
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Muy buen trabajo, es muy bello y atractivo.
Solamente veo algunas fallas en las escalas pero todo es corregible.
Revisaré tus escalas y si deseas te envío una nueva versión solamente de dinosaurios y pterosaurios para demostratelo, tengo los mejores esqueletos realizados como pruebas.
Saludos y felicidades.
En mi opinión falta Lineus longissimus el gusano de 55 metros según Record Guiness (es un nemertino), la medusa Cyanea rethica y otra especie similar de Antartida que mide 40 metros de largo, Kryostega el gigantesco anfibio encontrado de la Antartida, Anthodon, Elephantosaurus, Bruhatkhayosaurus, Hatzegopteryx, Saurosuchus, Parapuzosia, el gran pterosaurio encontrado en Solana,España, Turiasaurus, Kelenken, Dromornis, "Brachiosaurus" nougaredi y un ictiosaurio similar a Shonisaurus encontrado en Canada que era aún mayor.
Tendré noticias pronto, si te interesa amigo.
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what's the large one behind shonisaurus it must have been huge
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That one actually is Shonisaurus. I rearranged them a little, so the names probably aren't in the right order anymore.
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