MagicScripts In reply to pandakelly [2018-07-25 04:46:23 +0000 UTC]

Crap, I totally wrote "attension" instead of "attenʃion". You did a stellar job translating that, though. Really excellent.
(Especially w/ the babbling pseudo-phonetic keys! Urk, my custom font didn't like IPA symbols + proper sound names are unfamiliar.)

I think it wasn't much more than an hour. The idea just wove itself together. I originally wanted words to be side-by-side hanging vines, but I wound up rolling with this when I realized the complication making mouth-shape representatives for each vowel. And of course, you inspired it! It's basically your arrow script, a chain of shapes - plus your raindrop alphabet, objects in nature - plus some other things that came to mind while I was working on it.

I did mention Korean earlier because I think it's cool that a real-life script is based on the position of the mouth. I got excited to read about it a few years ago when I was trying to tell Korean, Japanese, and Chinese apart. I actually haven't looked into it further since then.

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pandakelly In reply to MagicScripts [2018-07-25 07:59:56 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you! I can't believe you spent an hour on it. That's so awesome. I know I didn't spend a whole lot of time on the rain drop script, but this one is definitely much more complicated. I had a lot of fun trying to figure out what it said. Oooh you have a custom font, that's cool! Haven't ever tried one of those really except making fontstruct stuff...

Yeah it's super interesting how vowels end up making the sentence twist and turn. Very unique this one. It's cool cause most scripts I see now days feel very similar to each other. I like seeing super different ones. I'm super flattered that you found inspiration in my stuff. Thank you so much. 

Speaking of complicated scripts, I can't remember if you ever looked at this one of mine.  , it's a bit Dravidian/syllabry. I was trying to explain how to use it the other day and I realized it's super hard to explain it to some one who doesn't understand IPA, lol. I should go back sometime and make it look more professional.... but there's a link in the description to some example sentences. Btw, I actually thought this one inspired you rather than the arrow script, haha. This one in my head is more like your vine script.

Yeah I was super excited too when I learned about Korean orthography. But even before I learned about that, I and two other people made a script based on mouth positions. Pretty interesting to think about. That language was for an intro to linguistics class. It was very Polynesian-esque. We tried to make it pretty agglutinating, chaining lots of suffixes together. 

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MagicScripts In reply to pandakelly [2018-07-25 21:54:50 +0000 UTC]

Ahh, yeah, I saw that one after I submitted this! I thought that script was super cool and looked kinda magical too. I don't think that one looks too similar to others either; that's cool. I don't understand all of IPA either, but I can at least see that it could be a little hard to explain this to someone with no knowledge. (It's funny how so many people I know take sounds for granted. Some people are still surprised when I tell them that "I" is two sounds. ...Was that slightly off-topic?)

Well, most of the hour-ish that I spent "working on this" was just writing that sentence. I thought I double-checked everything, too, but I guess I still missed something! Oops. d:

In your other comment (now that we're having two descriptions) you mentioned that some of your stuff is magic-based. I've only once written anything for magical cultures, so I'm interested: can you tell me more about your approach to that?

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pandakelly In reply to MagicScripts [2018-07-26 02:19:31 +0000 UTC]

You think you could write in it? hm.... At least ignoring the super weird ipa letters and using it as more of a cipher. Idk if the way the vowels work makes sense, but that null letter works almost exactly as your vowel letter for your vine script. Haha. I think the think I like most about that language is that you can link the beginning and the end of a sentence together into a ring, so it'd make for cool bracelets or tattoos. Haha. I'm glad that it looks pretty different than my other ones. I had a hard time making this one because my initial image for it was more writing in the dirt with a goat hoof. (the people who speak it are goats/sheep)... Turned out pretty different than what I had wanted, but I like it. I have no idea how thy developed it, but I guess I could go look up how several indian languages developed, or even mongolian. Dude mongolian looks so cool! Looks totally like a conlang.  

It's kinda off topic but I love that kinda conversation anyway. Diphthongs!!!! Yaaassss! I guess it depends on the dialect though cause in Southern U.S. (like Georgia) dialect I'd say "I" is less of one. I definitely for one took them for granite (hehe). But now sound systems are one of my favorite things about linguistics. Morphology would probably rank my top, then phonology, which is surprisingly different from phonetics. Historical linguistics is pretty cool. All three feel like you're solving puzzles and historical linguistics when making a proto language, you're basically making a conlang based on several languages, haha. 

I always make a mistake writing in my conlang, so it's all good. I'm still impressed that you could write that. Twisting in a different direction immediately messes with my orientation. I would have made so many mistakes.

Hm.. The most magic thing about my languages I'd say is that I'm writing them for pretty interesting races. I have this world where I made it so that there's over 100 different races based on real cryptids of different cultures, though a few of my own creation. So you get words that translate to lion insect (or nue if you know what that is), in my languages. Though I do have a bit of religious mythological terms (such as the river of souls (the aurora borealis which they believe is made of souls and is the path to paradise)). Oh I also have dragons and dragon riders in that language (and dual number for pronouns and nouns since people will often refer to both themselves and their dragons). But sadly, even thought there are magical abilities in both those cultures, they haven't exactly turned up in the vocabulary as of yet. It's something I definitely need to do at some point.  

A lot of my cultural stuff comes from just interesting words that just kinda happen. Like my word for rain translates directly to wandering sky. I have a ton of words that include the suffix for wander, so it ended up being a culture heavily influenced by a coming of age ceremony where one must travel alone in the world for a year. That's also where the nickname of the language comes from. The official name of the language is Ileh'sond (lit. the language of laughter), but foreigners call it  (Yat'al') which means wandering fish or salmon, which is what the people call those off on the coming of age journey. So out in the world they'd refer to themselves as Yat'al', and the foreigners picked that up and ended up calling the language and the people the Yat'al' (or Yat for short, those dang Yats). Lol this is super off topic. 

However I still start with very basic words, so magic isn't too prevalent at least with the early vocabulary, which honestly I should put more magic and stuff... Hm.. Ever heard of the leipzig jakarta list or the swadesh list? Those are always super nice to use when first starting to generate the definitions of vocab. 

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MagicScripts In reply to TheLezh [2018-07-23 03:39:58 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I agree such scripts are nice, and they're also fun to come up with even if some (like this) are hard to use. As said in the description, this was inspired by a raindrop-like script among some others I saw; picture-esque styles are some of my favorites. hyphen intended

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