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Published: 2018-12-01 15:16:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 23986; Favourites: 132; Downloads: 36
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This map is about a future scenario, there would be a war between Ukraine and Russia... and Ukraine would be defeated. According to Treaty of Kharkiv, Russia would annex some Ukrainian oblasts and most of them would become the new Republic of Inner Ukraine, whose capital city would be Kharkiv. In the other hand, Donetsk and Lugansk become simple Russian oblasts. In addition, Budjak and Transcarpathia would become independent countries, as Republic of Budjak and Republic of Rusynia. Finally, it would be established that most of Ukrainian oblasts (shaded area) would stay under Russian military occupation and capital city would be moved to Lviv. Anti-Russian parties would be banned and new friendly Ukraine would adopt Slavic Republic of Ukraine as its official name.Names and texts in Spanish.
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Interesting version of the division of Ukraine, but there is one important detail: if the south-east of Ukraine became part of Russia, it is unlikely that it will be called Ucraina Interior, rather, this region will be called like this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novoross…
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I think, if Russia would comfortable and safe, Ukrainians would want to live like that themselves (as South Koreans or Japanese under U.S. protectorate) but sadly Russia isnt. May be Poland, Hungary and Romania can.
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No quisiera que un escenario así se diera, pero es un escenario probable.
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You could simplify things.
This ukraine, + belorussia, + eastern poland, + lithuania (and prolly latvia) back into 'greater lithuania'.
Rumania + Moldavia + Budjak
Rusinia + slovakia to hungary
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just put moldavia (minus transinistra) in romania, belarus also annexed by russia and you would have your 21th century iron curtain...
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"...and you would have your 21th century iron curtain."..)))
The iron curtain did not disappear since the 20th century. It just moved closer to Russia. And now the cold war 2 begins.
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Me acabo de enterar que el nombre para Lviv en español es Leópolis y me repugna.
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Yo lo llamo Lwów. Era su nombre en polaco.
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Realmente es el nombre en latín, en castellano sólo se le añade la tilde
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¿Te repugna? Ja, ja, ja...
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Ukraine western than Kiev is just Polish lands captured by USSR in 1918. So...)
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no it´s not. is was just politically part of poland, but ethnic ukrainian. this is not polish land.
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Ага, если не считать того, что Польша появилась на политической карте в ноябре 1918)))
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как и Украина. Но Польша была ещё в средневековье. Если не было Польши, кто тогда захватывал нас в 1612?
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просто в начале речь шла о 1918 годе.
кстати все помнят о 1600х годах и русско-польских войнах. но мало помнят о Куликовом поле 1380 года, тогда поляки стояли у нас за спиной и готовили удар по нам, что бы захватить юго-западную Русь. Собственно хотели повторить историю с захватом южной Руси 13го века. Наверное у нас взаимная "любовь" с тех пор.
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Они нас ненавидят за то что у нас получилось то что хотели и не смогли они
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I don´t think that there would be an ukrainian leftover.
And the other (Moldavia and Budjak would be just satelites, like the in the "good old times of sovietic empire".
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May I ask did you forget about Transnistria and Gaugazia or did you just not know about them? It is pretty interesting I would say.
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Sincerely, I forgot about Transnistria, I guess they would decide join Russia... In the other hand, I think Gagauzia does not "deserve" becoming independent, it is very small...
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I appreciatie your honesty
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