CaligulaClone In reply to ??? [2008-11-06 09:33:16 +0000 UTC]

Wanna know something funny? I'm not reading anything you write.

Wanna know something even funnier? You're going to respond to this.

Have fun being an idiot!

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MechanicalDoom In reply to CaligulaClone [2008-11-06 21:40:04 +0000 UTC]

Translation: I can't think of an argument to this guy's points/rebuttals. I'm gonna call him an idiot and run. I'm so witty.

:/

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CaligulaClone In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-11-07 13:21:53 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, your reply was so easy to shoot down it wasnt even worth my time. And that's real.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to CaligulaClone [2008-11-09 00:38:24 +0000 UTC]

Suuuuuuuuure thing, buddy. :/

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CaligulaClone In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-11-10 11:12:43 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry but I don't enjoy arguing as much as you do.

If I thought you had the capacity to realize how much of an ass you are, I might continue to back-and-forth as you so obviously love to do (complete with italics and everything, golly!), but your kind is always blindly self-righteous and never open to the idea that you might possibly be in the wrong on this one, so it would be a waste of time.

It'll have to suffice to just call you an idiot.

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rurik36 In reply to ??? [2008-10-17 19:04:23 +0000 UTC]

I feel the need to point out how hypocritical it seems to me, to complain about fetish works on a site called DEVIANT Art. Allow me to read you a little story written by a man called Webster.

Main Entry: 1de·vi·ant
Pronunciation: d-v-nt
Function: adjective
: deviating especially from some accepted standard of behavior or morals

Main Entry: 2deviant
Function: noun
: a person whose behavior or morals differs from accepted or normal standards

Now that that's out of the way allow me to address a few things. First, if you don't like it, just ignore it. Nobody forces you to read the stories, and nobody forces you to click on the thumbnail images and view them at full scale. Second, I'm aware that the fetish is strange, and that it would be much less fun in real life, that's why they're inflation FICTION and is considered a FANTASY. I won't say I wouldn't want to see it in real life, because I would, BUT only if they could make it painless, and safe, as well as reversable, and the subject was willing and consenting. As for the rape thing, yes it would be wrong to go around with a ray that fattens or inflates people and blasting them randomly, and then if they were to have their way with them it WOULD be rape, that's different though from getting your spouse or lover to WILLINGLY submit to it. Next, you don't seem to grasp that not everyone fantasizes about others inflating, there are plenty of people who actually find the idea of being inflated themselves a turn on. As for popping, I personally don't like it, but others do, and as for why, from a psychological standpoint I'd say it's similar to the reason behind looners, (balloon fetishists, completely different from inflationists) who get aroused by the inflating of, playing with, and finally popping of balloons, it's sort of a... metaphore is the best word I can thing of. The inflating of the subject is the act of sex itself, the pressure building being representative of the feeling of pleasure mounting, with the popping, and the moments building up to it, being the orgasm. For those who don't like popping, most psychologists would probably say it's a matter of dominant/dominee, but I don't buy that myself as I prefer women with dominant personalities. Though I suppose that in itself may be a factor, could be that on a subconcious level I enjoy the idea of inflating or fattening a dominant woman to the point where she is completely helpless.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to rurik36 [2008-10-24 05:19:20 +0000 UTC]

I feel the need to point out how hypocritical it seems to me, to complain about fetish works on a site called DEVIANT Art. Allow me to read you a little story written by a man called Webster.

Main Entry: 1de·vi·ant
Pronunciation: d-v-nt
Function: adjective
: deviating especially from some accepted standard of behavior or morals

Main Entry: 2deviant
Function: noun
: a person whose behavior or morals differs from accepted or normal standards

You would actually be agreeing with me there buddy. The idea that the word "Deviant" means something sexual or relating to porn is a common misconception.

Now that that's out of the way allow me to address a few things. First, if you don't like it, just ignore it. Nobody forces you to read the stories, and nobody forces you to click on the thumbnail images and view them at full scale.

Kinda like how nobody forced you to read this rant on your crazy fetish.

Second, I'm aware that the fetish is strange, and that it would be much less fun in real life, that's why they're inflation FICTION and is considered a FANTASY

Which this particular "FANTASY" would really be accurately described as "FETISHISM." Difference.

I won't say I wouldn't want to see it in real life, because I would, BUT only if they could make it painless, and safe, as well as reversable, and the subject was willing and consenting. As for the rape thing, yes it would be wrong to go around with a ray that fattens or inflates people and blasting them randomly, and then if they were to have their way with them it WOULD be rape, that's different though from getting your spouse or lover to WILLINGLY submit to it.

So you're admitting that if it was possible, you would happily inflate a girl to the size of a Semi and you're acknowledging that this is a bastardized version of rape and/or bondage?

Dude.

What the Hell.

Also, I don't care how much I loved a person, I would not ever be willing to completely destroy my body just so my spouse could get off on it. That's epically retarded.

Next, you don't seem to grasp that not everyone fantasizes about others inflating, there are plenty of people who actually find the idea of being inflated themselves a turn on.

Dude, do you have any idea how much I don't care? It's the same premise, no matter how you look at it. In fact, just wanting to inflate oneself instead of someone else can be viewed upon as even MORE creepy. That wouldn't even be fetishism anymore. That would be extreme self-neglect.

The inflating of the subject is the act of sex itself, the pressure building being representative of the feeling of pleasure mounting, with the popping, and the moments building up to it, being the orgasm

I said it before, and I'll say it again: Out of all the words and adjectives that could be used to describe the process of inflation, "Arousing", "Pleasurable", or "Orgasmic" would not be accurate words to describe it. More like "Agonizing", "Torture", or "Extremely Painful."

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rurik36 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-25 14:30:37 +0000 UTC]

Whether it's a fetish or not doesn't change the fact that it's a fantasy. Fantasy does not need to be real, that's what makes it fun. And as an author you make the rules for your fantasy world, it's one of the perks. Second, you're an idiot if you can fool yourself into believing that it's still rape if the subject is willing, allow me to give you another passage from my good friend Webster.
Main Entry: 3rape
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : an act or instance of robbing or despoiling or carrying away a person by force
2 : unlawful sexual activity and usually sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will usually of a female or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent

Now, since you quoted me directly you'll note that I said I would only want to inflate someone if it was PAINLESS, and SAFE, as well as REVERSABLE, and most importantly that the subject were WILLING. I also conceded that it WOULD be rape to inflate an UNWILLING subject and then have your way with them, that's the same as drugging someone and then having sex with them. Now, because of the fact that I said PAINLESS, SAFE, and REVERSABLE I fail to see how that would be so terrible, and by giving those conditions it means that I would NOT want to do it if it caused discomfort. Also, don't try to twist my words, it's beyond your limited ability. The argument I make about the inflation being a sort of symbolic orgasm is sound psychology, based on the same theory behind looners, don't believe me, go ask a psychology student. Next, simply because YOU would not be willing to "ruin your body" no matter how much you love someone, doesn't mean others wouldn't, and if the subject in question was one who got off on being inflated, then that seems like a match made in heaven. Next, since you seem intent on being an ass, allow me to fight idiocy with logic. First, when you claim it is not art, let me point you to my friend Webster once again.
Main Entry: 2art
Pronunciation: \ˈärt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin art-, ars — more at arm
Date: 13th century
1: skill acquired by experience, study, or observation
2 a: a branch of learning: (1): one of the humanities (2)plural : liberal arts barchaic : learning , scholarship
3: an occupation requiring knowledge or skill
4 a: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects ; also : works so produced b (1): fine arts (2): one of the fine arts (3): a graphic art
5 aarchaic : a skillful plan b: the quality or state of being artful
6: decorative or illustrative elements in printed matter
And in case you're too stupid to know what aesthetic means.
Main Entry: 1aes·thet·ic
Variant(s): also es·thet·ic \es-ˈthe-tik, is-, British usually ēs-\ or aes·thet·i·cal or es·thet·i·cal \-ti-kəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: German ästhetisch, from New Latin aestheticus, from Greek aisthētikos of sense perception, from aisthanesthai to perceive — more at audible
Date: 1798
1 a: of, relating to, or dealing with aesthetics or the beautiful b: artistic c: pleasing in appearance : attractive
2: appreciative of, responsive to, or zealous about the beautiful ; also : responsive to or appreciative of what is pleasurable to the senses
— aes·thet·i·cal·ly also es·thet·i·cal·ly \-ti-k(əlē\ adverb
So, art is something created using a skill and imagination, both present and accounted for, to create something which is pleasing to look at, meaning even if YOU don't find it pleasing to look at, if others do, it is still art. And since writing is a different story, pun intended, being literature, and not artwork.
Main Entry: lit·er·a·ture
Pronunciation: \ˈli-tə-rə-ˌchu̇r, ˈli-trə-ˌchu̇r, ˈli-tə(r)-ˌchu̇r, -chər, -ˌtyu̇r, -ˌtu̇r\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin litteratura writing, grammar, learning, from litteratus
Date: 14th century
1archaic : literary culture
2: the production of literary work especially as an occupation
3 a (1): writings in prose or verse ; especially : writings having excellence of form or expression and expressing ideas of permanent or universal interest (2): an example of such writings b: the body of written works produced in a particular language, country, or age c: the body of writings on a particular subject d: printed matter (as leaflets or circulars)
4: the aggregate of a usually specified type of musical compositions
So, as long as it is written in verse or prose, it is technically literature. Next your whining about seeing inflation art of various characters, way I see it you forfeit any rights to whine about that by posting something which you know people are going to end up seeing when they're searching for inflation or weight gain stories. Had you put this in, say your journal then you would have that right, by deciding to do it this way however, you do not. And if you're going to say that it shouldn't be allowed I once again point out the name DEVIANT ART, if you want socially acceptable art, go find a site called regular art instead, and also if you're going to say that inflation art should be banned because it's "pornographic" then that means no pictures that ANYONE could consider arousing, due to the fact that they're ALL porn based on your flawed logic.

By the way, I suggest you befriend Webster as well.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to rurik36 [2008-10-26 03:20:48 +0000 UTC]

First, let's get this out of the way: Quit quoting dictionary websites. I understand those words. Stop trying to spell out something that's obvious.

Whether it's a fetish or not doesn't change the fact that it's a fantasy.

Fetishism is in the realm of pornography. So regardless of whether or not you choose to classify your wank material as "Fantasy" or not, it's still porn because it only exists to get someone off on it.

Fantasy does not need to be real, that's what makes it fun.

By the way, this is a funny argument to defend inflation anyway. I hardly call it "fun" or "harmless" when you take a look at inflation smut like what this guy produces:



Yeah, that collection of suffering inflated women is a barrel full of fucking monkeys.

:/

Second, you're an idiot if you can fool yourself into believing that it's still rape if the subject is willing, allow me to give you another passage from my good friend Webster.

2 things about that:

1. I never said that if the person is willing, that it's still rape. Funny that you tell me not to twist your words, then you go about and twist mine.

2. That's the whole thing though: No logically thinking person would be willing to allow someone inflate themselves.

Now, since you quoted me directly you'll note that I said I would only want to inflate someone if it was PAINLESS, and SAFE, as well as REVERSABLE, and most importantly that the subject were WILLING. I also conceded that it WOULD be rape to inflate an UNWILLING subject and then have your way with them, that's the same as drugging someone and then having sex with them. Now, because of the fact that I said PAINLESS, SAFE, and REVERSABLE I fail to see how that would be so terrible, and by giving those conditions it means that I would NOT want to do it if it caused discomfort.

You seem to be fetishising about something that cannot possibly happen in real life then. And somehow, that doesn't make too much sense to me. It seems to be an unattainable image of beauty. Not too bright, buddy.

Next, simply because YOU would not be willing to "ruin your body" no matter how much you love someone, doesn't mean others wouldn't, and if the subject in question was one who got off on being inflated, then that seems like a match made in heaven.

"Match made in heaven?" Seriously? Wooooooooooooooow.

This once again goes to the whole self-neglect thing I mentioned earlier.

Next, since you seem intent on being an ass, allow me to fight idiocy with logic.

I find this hilariously ironic.

So, art is something created using a skill and imagination, both present and accounted for, to create something which is pleasing to look at, meaning even if YOU don't find it pleasing to look at, if others do, it is still art.

One thing wrong with that buddy: Porn isn't art. Even major and famous artists can agree that pornography shouldn't be put on the same level as art. I don't even put art and porn in the same metaphorical solar system.

So, as long as it is written in verse or prose, it is technically literature.

It's hilariously stupid that you ignored the exact definition you gave to me. Especially this part:

1archaic : literary culture
2: the production of literary work especially as an occupation
3 a (1): writings in prose or verse ; especially : writings having excellence of form or expression and expressing ideas of permanent or universal interest

Please tell me, are you trying to make yourself look like an idiot?

Next your whining about seeing inflation art of various characters, way I see it you forfeit any rights to whine about that by posting something which you know people are going to end up seeing when they're searching for inflation or weight gain stories. Had you put this in, say your journal then you would have that right, by deciding to do it this way however, you do not.

Congratulations for making zero sense.

Also, just expressing my opinion on this. Suddenly, I'm allowed to post my opinion, but yet I can't complain about something? Sorry, my brain just exploded from all the stupid in that statement.

And if you're going to say that it shouldn't be allowed I once again point out the name DEVIANT ART, if you want socially acceptable art, go find a site called regular art instead

No. You see, it's called DeviantART. Not DeviantPORN.

and also if you're going to say that inflation art should be banned because it's "pornographic" then that means no pictures that ANYONE could consider arousing, due to the fact that they're ALL porn based on your flawed logic.

It's just the idea of porn being put on an art site that deeply bothers me. If being assured that I wouldn't see fetish work on this website again meant I also wouldn't be able to see art that explores the sensuality of the human body, I believe that's a small price to pay.

By the way, I suggest you befriend Webster as well.

lol, hooray for assuming I don't know what Webster is. That's cute.

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rurik36 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-27 14:46:29 +0000 UTC]

Says you, plenty of perfectly logical people make the choice to gain weight, who are you to say that someone is illogical just because they have fantasies which seem strange to you? Not every person has the same views as you do on life, I for one don't care if I live to be two hundred years old, or die at 45, I'd prefer to die young and happy than old and miserable. Next, you say it could never happen. I feel the need to point out that only a few decades ago people would have said the same about giant metal tubes flying through the air, even as far as the moon, or being able to talk instantly with people on the other side of the earth, even being able to see them while you do so. With the technology available today it may be impossible, but in a few decades? Centuries? Who can say? I'm quite aware that I'm not likely to see the day when inflation can be done safely like in my fantasies, but that's why I have imagination. Most inflationists understand that it's highly unlikely to ever live out their fantasies, same goes for furries, or macro/microphiles. Next, the fact that you forfeit all rights to whine about seeing inflation art because of how you chose to do so makes perfect sense, you complain because you punch in the name of a character, like Rouge the Bat, and get inflation and weight gain art of her, by posting this rant as a deviation like you did, you forfeit any rights to complain about that, how do you think inflationists find this? We punch in body inflation, and find this, had you posted it as a journal entry, you wouldn't be a hypocrite, and would thus still have every right to whine about it as much as you like. Continuing, you fail to understand that when a definition says especially that means that it holds more true than anything else, and that while there are inflation stories which are VERY poorly written, it's just as true that there are those which are incredibly well written, and as they are a form of expression, that means they fulfill every requirement to be literature, just like inflation art has all the requirements necessary, and that while there are those which downright suck, many others show more skill than a lot of non-inflation "art" on this site. Also, since art is defined as being aesthetically pleasing and created using skills such as drawing, or photography, that means by definition porn can indeed be art, and the other way around, or do you not notice that there are lots of paintings and statues of naked people? Or how about the fact that the site has classifications under photography for both fetish portraits and artistic nude? You see, what you fail to understand is that this site has a name consisting of two words, which when combined means art which is considered to be unacceptable by the general public, and since the "major and famous artists" feel that pornography isn't art, then that means it's EXACTLY the type of thing which deviants would consider to be art, like I said, you want socially acceptable art? Go to one of those famous artists sites instead. And by the way, I'd like to point out that nothing is impossible, only highly improbable. That's Einstein by the way.

Oh yes, and also, you used the word irony wrong.

Main Entry: iro·ny
Pronunciation: \ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ər-nē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural iro·nies
Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirōnia, from eirōn dissembler
Date: 1502
1: a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony
2 a: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b: a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c: an ironic expression or utterance
3 a (1): incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2): an event or result marked by such incongruity b: incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play —called also

Oh, and I quote the dictionary, because you can't argue with it, no matter how hard you try.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to rurik36 [2008-11-06 04:26:24 +0000 UTC]

Says you, plenty of perfectly logical people make the choice to gain weight, who are you to say that someone is illogical just because they have fantasies which seem strange to you?

But those people don't gain weight to the point of looking like a SUV with arms and feet attached.

Next, you say it could never happen. I feel the need to point out that only a few decades ago people would have said the same about giant metal tubes flying through the air, even as far as the moon, or being able to talk instantly with people on the other side of the earth, even being able to see them while you do so. With the technology available today it may be impossible, but in a few decades? Centuries? Who can say?

Holy shit, you compared inflating the human body, reminiscent of an old cartoon gag, to airplanes, telephones and spacecrafts. You never cease to amaze me, sir.

:/

Next, the fact that you forfeit all rights to whine about seeing inflation art because of how you chose to do so makes perfect sense, you complain because you punch in the name of a character, like Rouge the Bat, and get inflation and weight gain art of her, by posting this rant as a deviation like you did, you forfeit any rights to complain about that, how do you think inflationists find this? We punch in body inflation, and find this, had you posted it as a journal entry, you wouldn't be a hypocrite, and would thus still have every right to whine about it as much as you like.

I don't go to inflation pictures/deviations and post this. I made this rant instead. I also find it terribly funny that inflationists/WG lovers hate rants and criticisms such as this so much, yet they can't seem to not comment on them, even after they call them pointless. Classic.

Which is interesting to me as well. Out of the hundreds of inflation/WG "artists" on this site and the hundreds of thousands of inflation/WG pictures, which is a vast sea of fetish fulfillment, why would you get so upset over 1 measly little criticism? Sounds to me like a little deep-seated shame is attached to this whole thing.

I feel as though I can complain about in whatever manner I please, since it is in fact, my opinion. If you got a problem with that, take that up with the 1st amendment please.

Continuing, you fail to understand that when a definition says especially that means that it holds more true than anything else, and that while there are inflation stories which are VERY poorly written, it's just as true that there are those which are incredibly well written, and as they are a form of expression, that means they fulfill every requirement to be literature, just like inflation art has all the requirements necessary, and that while there are those which downright suck, many others show more skill than a lot of non-inflation "art" on this site.

Quality is hardly relevant in this case. No matter how well written/drawn or not they may be, they all still seem to revolve on getting someone off on their strange fetish. And that, my friend, simply isn't art since it has no other relevance than that.

Also, since art is defined as being aesthetically pleasing and created using skills such as drawing, or photography, that means by definition porn can indeed be art, and the other way around, or do you not notice that there are lots of paintings and statues of naked people?

...And?

Or how about the fact that the site has classifications under photography for both fetish portraits and artistic nude?

Both of those however involve photography. Hence the word Portrait. Can't quite pull of inflation/WG in real life, now can we?

And the whole "Fetish Portraits" section doesn't make a lot of sense to me anyway. :/

You see, what you fail to understand is that this site has a name consisting of two words, which when combined means art which is considered to be unacceptable by the general public, and since the "major and famous artists" feel that pornography isn't art, then that means it's EXACTLY the type of thing which deviants would consider to be art,

Oh, I understand perfectly. What YOU don't seem to understand is that the word "Deviant" doesn't imply something sexual as that would purely be a misconception, and that smut isn't art.

And by the way, I'd like to point out that nothing is impossible, only highly improbable. That's Einstein by the way.

OK, as long as we're quoting Einstein here, I got another one:

"There are two things that are infinite; The universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe."

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rurik36 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-11-08 15:18:59 +0000 UTC]

I find it amusing that you seem to pick and choose. So fetishes that CAN be done in real life are perfectly fine, but fictional works that CAN'T happen, at least with current technology, are so much worse? Get over yourself man. The reason we comment is because you post this as a deviation, not a journal, if you post it as a journal then it doesn't show up when we search for inflation stories, you can rant, piss, and moan until your fingers cramp for all we care. By the way, you misunderstand me, I'm not offended or angry or anything, I simply find your stupidity to be entertaining. By the way, the idea of people flying was exactly the same as the idea of inflating people. I've got a suggestion for you, instead of whining in a way which common sense should tell you will invite inflationists to come and comment telling you off, try doing something constructive, e-mail the site admins, suggest they add more fetish sections, since they already have ones for photogrophy and anthro art, and that they make the search function more advanced so you can tell it to search for anything NOT listed as inflation or whatever. And by the way, you CAN gain weight in real life, I should know, if you couldn't I'd be as skinny as a rail. Actually, deviant IS often used in a sexual way, as in sexual deviant, however not ONCE have I stated that deviants HAVE to be socially unacceptable for sexual reasons, it can be anything from serial killers, to rapists, to simple fetishists, since inflation is considered socially unacceptable by some, such as narrow minded fools like you, that makes us deviants, as such our art and stories have more place on DEVIANT art than anyone elses, and considerably more than a rant about us, this is most DEFINITELY not art after all, this is just a fool who has far too much time on his hands since he has time to complain about something that doesn't harm him or anyone else instead of doing something useful, like writing an actual story, or painting a pretty picture.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to rurik36 [2008-11-09 00:37:52 +0000 UTC]

I find it amusing that you seem to pick and choose. So fetishes that CAN be done in real life are perfectly fine, but fictional works that CAN'T happen, at least with current technology, are so much worse? Get over yourself man.

What? No, that's not what I said. I don't particularly like the fetish portraits section either. It would seem a bit hypocritical to talk about the inflation fetish being porn and not rule out the fetish portrait or artistic nude section. Porn is porn, those sections included.

Funny about the whole "you seem to pick and choose" thing, when you did the exact same thing with my post, because I also said the fetish portrait section didn't make sense to me.

The reason we comment is because you post this as a deviation, not a journal, if you post it as a journal then it doesn't show up when we search for inflation stories, you can rant, piss, and moan until your fingers cramp for all we care.

What difference does it make if it's a deviation or a journal? It's still my opinion regardless, therefore I'm allowed to post it.

Speaking getting over myself by the way, I seem to recall you saying this in a previous post:

First, if you don't like it, just ignore it. Nobody forces you to read the stories, and nobody forces you to click on the thumbnail images and view them at full scale.

So you tell me to keep my mouth shut on something I don't like, but when you find something you don't like, it's perfectly fine? What outstanding logic!!!

/End Sarcasm

By the way, the idea of people flying was exactly the same as the idea of inflating people.

You know this...how? Was you there when the Wright Brothers did their thing?

I've got a suggestion for you, instead of whining in a way which common sense should tell you will invite inflationists to come and comment telling you off, try doing something constructive, e-mail the site admins, suggest they add more fetish sections, since they already have ones for photogrophy and anthro art, and that they make the search function more advanced so you can tell it to search for anything NOT listed as inflation or whatever.

Yeah, the site administrators are gonna listen to me just because I don't like something too much.

And by the way, you CAN gain weight in real life, I should know, if you couldn't I'd be as skinny as a rail.

You like to take things really literally, don't ya?

I know people gain weight in real life, but not even anywhere close to the kind found in WG pictures like the ones on this site. You can't even compare a real life fat person to these gargantuan meat sacks in these pictures.

Actually, deviant IS often used in a sexual way, as in sexual deviant, however not ONCE have I stated that deviants HAVE to be socially unacceptable for sexual reasons, it can be anything from serial killers, to rapists, to simple fetishists, since inflation is considered socially unacceptable by some, such as narrow minded fools like you, that makes us deviants, as such our art and stories have more place on DEVIANT art than anyone elses, and considerably more than a rant about us, this is most DEFINITELY not art after all, this is just a fool who has far too much time on his hands since he has time to complain about something that doesn't harm him or anyone else instead of doing something useful, like writing an actual story, or painting a pretty picture.

Dude.

1. For the last damn time, the word "Deviant" doesn't imply something sexual. Any thoughts otherwise are simply misunderstandings and nothing more. Misunderstandings.

2. This site is just called DeviantArt because it's an indie art site. And logic would dictate that in order to be on an art site, indie or not, it would in fact have to be art first. Inflation art, while not the worst thing in the world (although I can't stress THAT enough, since inflation/WG fetishists always seem to bring that argument up somewhere), it simply isn't art since it only exists to satisfy a sexual fetish and nothing more. Wank material doesn't belong on an art site. Get this through your head.

3. So I'm a fool for expressing my opinion in a form of a typed-out criticism? That's retarded.

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rurik36 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-11-10 15:17:30 +0000 UTC]

Whether or not it is considered to be art is entirely based on opinion. Obviously the site owners do infact consider fetish related work to be art, and it's their opinions that matter when it comes to what should or should not be allowed. And again, I never said deviant HAS to mean anything sexual, however it DOES include things which are, where I live even if I DIDN'T have any unusual fetishes I'd STILL be a deviant simply for being a pagan, or for that matter anything but a baptist. And what would it hurt to make a suggestion to the admins, hell, I'd actually support you if you suggested they add more fetish sections and a more advanced search function, and I bet a lot of others would too. And I didn't have to be there when the first plane took flight to know that before then the idea of people flying was considered impossible, it's a known fact people called the brothers insane. By the way, you seemed to miss my point entirely, the point was that something that may seem impossible today won't always be, science and technology are constantly changing, even Einstein's famous E=MC squared formula is no longer valid, oh, and I was refering to the internet, not the phone too. And what makes you a fool is the way in which you choose to state your opinion, and the difference between posting it as a deviation is the fact that you can't make an argument that this is art of any form, it's a rant pure and simple, and if you posted it as a journal you wouldn't have to deal with people commenting and arguing with you nearly as much because they most likely would never find it, and I never said to keep your mouth shut, just to complain in a different way. And my statement about not looking at things you don't like I stand by, I do exactly that myself, for instance I avoid Freakinweirdo's work because I personally dislike popping, but I don't go on about it being sick and wrong, it's all just fantasy and I should certainly hope if they ever did find a way to inflate people people like him wouldn't actually pop anyone, as that would be murder, just like as much as I like to daydream about killing people that I can't stand I'd never do so simply because it's illegal, this has more to do with the fact that I'd prefer not to be executed than a sense of right or wrong I'll admit, but still.

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Uniquename02 In reply to rurik36 [2009-01-26 05:22:01 +0000 UTC]

You're my new best friend 8O

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plasma-snake In reply to ??? [2008-10-17 07:36:20 +0000 UTC]

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MechanicalDoom In reply to plasma-snake [2008-10-17 20:18:00 +0000 UTC]

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judasrockinpriest In reply to ??? [2008-10-17 07:20:11 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't normally comment on this type of essay, but since it seemed intelligently written and relatively non-inflammatory, I thought I might make one little point...

Inflation art is totally fucked up. You have to be a very strange person to like it, much less produce it. A lot of people like it though, and nobody really knows why. It's just one of those kinks. The thing is, though, that I think a lot of people have their own weird little kink...that a lot more people are a lot more fucked up than a lot of people think. There's all kinds of weirdness out there. If it's so common, why can't we just accept it and celebrate it as one big happy fucked up family? Inflation art isn't the only weirdness out there, and I don't bash on other peoples' weirdness, because I happen to live in a glass house . Can't we all just take a step back, realize it for the bizarre collection of doodles it really is, and just laugh at how weird it is? I think the diversity of peoples' interests, no matter how weird, is something to be kind of sickly awed at, not disgusted by.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to judasrockinpriest [2008-10-19 06:44:13 +0000 UTC]

Can't we all just take a step back, realize it for the bizarre collection of doodles it really is, and just laugh at how weird it is? I think the diversity of peoples' interests, no matter how weird, is something to be kind of sickly awed at, not disgusted by.

I wish the world worked that way, but sadly it doesn't.

Until then, I am free to post my opinion on said doodles.

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judasrockinpriest In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-20 01:06:51 +0000 UTC]

Why doesn't the world work that way?

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MechanicalDoom In reply to judasrockinpriest [2008-10-20 01:30:41 +0000 UTC]

It's that old saying: "Life isn't fair."

Don't get me wrong, I'm not stopping anyone from drawing this stuff. It's their right to do so, just as much as it's my right to post this rant. I'm also saying it would be awesome if they marked it mature or posted it on an inflation/WG site or something. All I'm doing is expressing my opinion on the matter, because I was completely and utterly bored.

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judasrockinpriest In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-20 02:56:08 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm definitely not trying to keep you from doing that I'm just trying to make an appeal to tolerance. We're weird freaks, for sure, and we draw really weird stuff. But DA is an awesome place, and it's a great opportunity for all kinds of weird people to get together and share their weird interests XD Most of us that draw inflation art have separate accounts for non-inflation stuff, not only to protect our normal identities but to keep people who enjoy our regular stuff from having to endure the weirder crap. You're absolutely right about the mature rating thing, in my opinion; I usually at least put an "ideologically sensitive" flag on my doodles. Aside from our shared quirk, we're all just regular folks who enjoy all the other art on DA as well You sure stirred up a shitstorm with this journal, though XD

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MechanicalDoom In reply to judasrockinpriest [2008-10-20 03:06:58 +0000 UTC]

Then you and I have little to no problems. Cheers.

You sure stirred up a shitstorm with this journal, though XD

Tell me about it. All but 2 comments on this entire thing so far are from inflationists/WG lovers. Jeez, they're sensitive, aren't they?

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judasrockinpriest In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-20 03:10:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, those crazy inflationists...


>.>

<.<

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MechanicalDoom In reply to judasrockinpriest [2008-10-20 03:15:26 +0000 UTC]

Just saying so many people shouldn't be taking so much offense to something I typed down in about 20 minutes while drinking Dr. Pepper, is all.

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Kreizen In reply to ??? [2008-10-17 07:13:18 +0000 UTC]

Well, here we stand my friend. Your arguments have all been summarily destroyed, pulverized and then scattered to the winds. I won't make a drawn out comment since anything I have to say has already been said to render your arguments pointless. All I have to say is you were damned to failure the minute you started this little rant of yours. You attempted to use real life logic on the stuff of fantasy. F A N T A S Y. Stuff that isn't real, and in this case, cannot happen in real life. You foolishly, and callously attempt to compare our fetish to real life stuff, such as suicide, rape and death...stuff that happens to REAL people. I assure you, there are weirder and less benign fetishes out there that make ours seem very, very tame. You're not the first to make such a pointless rant, and you sure as hell won't be the last, but hopefully a day will come where you do more then simply see one lone little drawing and jump to a billion false conclusions, taking it upon yourself to lash out at stuff you don't understand. Instead, you should talk to members of the community and try to understand it, before painting a huge bullseye on yourself and attacking blindly.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Kreizen [2008-10-18 01:44:51 +0000 UTC]

Well, here we stand my friend. Your arguments have all been summarily destroyed, pulverized and then scattered to the winds. I won't make a drawn out comment since anything I have to say has already been said to render your arguments pointless.

OK...I don't quite see how you came to that conclusion. :/

All I have to say is you were damned to failure the minute you started this little rant of yours. You attempted to use real life logic on the stuff of fantasy. F A N T A S Y. Stuff that isn't real, and in this case, cannot happen in real life.

There's quite a bit of difference between fantasy and fetishism. F E T I S H I S M. Learn the difference.

You foolishly, and callously attempt to compare our fetish to real life stuff, such as suicide, rape and death...stuff that happens to REAL people. I assure you, there are weirder and less benign fetishes out there that make ours seem very, very tame. You're not the first to make such a pointless rant, and you sure as hell won't be the last, but hopefully a day will come where you do more then simply see one lone little drawing and jump to a billion false conclusions, taking it upon yourself to lash out at stuff you don't understand.

I know that inflation/WG isn't the worst stuff out there, but I sure as Hell know that doesn't justify it or make it any less cringe-worthy.

So you're making a rebuttal towards a "pointless" rant? That makes sense.

I don't see one little drawing. I see shitloads of this stuff while searching for stuff that's not even remotely related to inflation or any other fetish. Go through the Anime & Manga section. There's TONS of it.

Also, I don't think I'm "misunderstanding" it. I think the message with inflation/WG is pretty straight-forward: Making a girl incredibly, impossibly huge.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-18 17:02:22 +0000 UTC]

So you're making a rebuttal towards a "pointless" rant? That makes sense.

It does! Step back and think: if someone made a pointless rant bashing something you loved, you'd speak out, no matter how pointless.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-19 06:19:10 +0000 UTC]

No, I'd dismiss the rant (since it is, in fact as posted, pointless) and get on with my life. :/

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-20 20:52:15 +0000 UTC]

And what if you had 15 minutes to kill, and nothing was on tv?

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-24 04:46:09 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't be wasting my time posting a rebuttal on a pointless internet rant, that's for damn sure. I'd be talking to one of my friends, or doing something social in town, or doing something resourceful. Hell, I can play 2 rounds of Yu-Gi-Oh! in 15 minutes. Having an actual life is fun too.

Also, I don't really watch TV anymore anyway. The only shows I really watch anymore are "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart", "The Colbert Report", and "South Park." Among a small number of other shows.

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CaligulaClone In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-11-02 21:25:46 +0000 UTC]

"I wouldn't be wasting my time posting a rebuttal on a pointless internet rank, that's for damn sure."

But you have loads of time to respond to those rebuttals.

"I can play 2 rounds of yugioh in 15 minutes. Having an actual life is fun too."

You sir, are a walking contradiction.

(lmao)

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MechanicalDoom In reply to CaligulaClone [2008-11-06 04:49:16 +0000 UTC]

But you have loads of time to respond to those rebuttals.

And you seem to have assloads of time on your hands as well, seeing as how you posted a reply to a different conversation...6 days after your original post.

You sir, are a walking contradiction.

(lmao)

lol for saying playing Yu-Gi-Oh! and having a social life are two opposite concepts. Tell me, how exactly did you get your head so far up your own ass?

(lmao)

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-24 06:27:22 +0000 UTC]

You play? What deck do you run?

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-24 16:35:48 +0000 UTC]

Zombies.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-25 01:56:15 +0000 UTC]

Sweet. I run archfiends. Tournament-wise, not too good, but fun when they work.

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KorgFal In reply to ??? [2008-10-14 06:43:45 +0000 UTC]

"8. “It’s not art. Deal with it.” - I reeeeeeeeeally hate to break it to you guys, but Inflation/Weight Gain/Fat/Blueberry/Vore/ExtremeBE/Pregnancy/etc. is not art. itspr0n, lol. But seriously though, it’s only purpose is to fulfill a sexual fetish and hold no other real relevance than that. Rather simple."


I hate to break it to you brain-tard, but not ALL inflation is so called pr0n. If you look at the few stories I have written, not one of them has ANY kind of sexual tone, act, or reference in it. PERIOD. Yes, I will admit that some writers and artists do include sex in their work. Soooo, how does that make it any LESS artwork? Get a job or a life or both and quick hounding us already ya' fuckin' twirp.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to KorgFal [2008-10-14 11:35:15 +0000 UTC]

Regardless of whether or not it "intends" on having sexual tones or not, the only reason it exists in the first place is to gratify a sexual fetish, and have no other relevance than that. That, makes it porn.

Get a job or a life or both and quick hounding us already ya' fuckin' twirp.

OH MY GOD HE SHARED HIS OPINION ON THE INTERNET, HE HAS NO LIFE!@!1!!

:/

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-14 20:47:17 +0000 UTC]

Regardless of whether or not it "intends" on having sexual tones or not, the only reason it exists in the first place is to gratify a sexual fetish, and have no other relevance than that. That, makes it porn.

And porn is a form of art. Whats the only reason art exists? To express one's creativity. What if someone's creativity lies in expressing their or others sexual desires?

Get a job or a life or both and quick hounding us already ya' fuckin' twirp

Name callings a little unnessicary, Korg...

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-16 00:05:25 +0000 UTC]

And porn is a form of art.

I'm sorry, but that's just not the case. Porn never, ever strives to be artistic or meaningful. Even famous artists can and have agreed that a line should be drawn between art and pornography.

Whats the only reason art exists? To express one's creativity. What if someone's creativity lies in expressing their or others sexual desires?

If someone's creativity only gets sparked by making porn for their self/other people, I'd say he/she has a rather weak intellect or motivation trigger.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-16 17:49:32 +0000 UTC]

I'd say he/she has a rather weak intellect or motivation trigger

And who are you to set that standard? People are motivated by hundreds of different factors to do whatever the hell they want. Just cause someone makes pictures of a sexual nature doesn't make their motivation weak. Hell, next to the fight or flight instinct, and hunger, sex is the biggest motivator in biology. If someone wants to put their urges down as art yes, art, then they should.

I'm sorry, but that's just not the case. Porn never, ever strives to be artistic or meaningful.

Meaningful to who? Obviously not you. While porn doesn't carry a deep message, or make a statement, that doesn't mean someone didn't put their heart into making it. The person who created said work still put their soul into the work. Besides, not everything needs subtext to be artistic.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-17 00:37:52 +0000 UTC]

And who are you to set that standard? People are motivated by hundreds of different factors to do whatever the hell they want. Just cause someone makes pictures of a sexual nature doesn't make their motivation weak. Hell, next to the fight or flight instinct, and hunger, sex is the biggest motivator in biology. If someone wants to put their urges down as art yes, art, then they should.

You misread my post. I said if that's the only thing that motivates them. Sure, sex is an instinct, but there has to be a point where one has to control it, or at the very least not claim that their thoughts/wank pics should be put on the same level of actual art.

Meaningful to who? Obviously not you. While porn doesn't carry a deep message, or make a statement, that doesn't mean someone didn't put their heart into making it. The person who created said work still put their soul into the work. Besides, not everything needs subtext to be artistic.

Not meaningful to any one person individually, but just meaningful in general.

And you're going under the impression that just because someone puts effort into something, like a piece of pornography, that makes it good, or qualified to be put on the level of art. That's not the way it works, buddy.

Also, not all porn has effort put into it. Just throwing that out there.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-17 06:08:30 +0000 UTC]

Not meaningful to any one person individually, but just meaningful in general.

And porn is an expression of sexual desire. That in itself is meaningful.

Sure, sex is an instinct, but there has to be a point where one has to control it, or at the very least not claim that their thoughts/wank pics should be put on the same level of actual art.

Of course an instinct has to be controlled. If the sex instinct wasn't controlled, everyone would just go around doing it constantly. But instead, people make porn. Porn is the expression of sexual desires (plausable or otherwise).

And you're going under the impression that just because someone puts effort into something, like a piece of pornography, that makes it good, or qualified to be put on the level of art. That's not the way it works, buddy.

Whats your definition of effort? Does drawing of the human anatomy come naturally to you? Are you skilled enough to make a picture of an apple with all the shading, details, and nuances without batting an eye? Whether or not you are, you are setting your standards for art too high. Yeah, I get that it's your opinion, but I can have an opinion on your opinion. You think that just because somthing lacks, or has little meaning, it's not art. Either you are looking down at people who don't match your own skill level, or you're setting professionals past and present as the standard.

Also, not all porn has effort put into it. Just throwing that out there.

Atleast with porn, you have to do more than throw paint at a canvas. Just throwing that out there.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-18 16:07:58 +0000 UTC]

And porn is an expression of sexual desire. That in itself is meaningful.

No, it's only meaning is to get people off on it. There's no message or expression in that. That's smut.

Of course an instinct has to be controlled. If the sex instinct wasn't controlled, everyone would just go around doing it constantly. But instead, people make porn. Porn is the expression of sexual desires (plausable or otherwise).

It's funny how you ignored this part of my sentence:

Sure, sex is an instinct, but there has to be a point where one has to control it, or at the very least not claim that their thoughts/wank pics should be put on the same level of actual art.

And I will repeat this: Porn doesn't strive to express or convey any meaning or expression of any kind. It only exists so one can fap to it.

Whats your definition of effort? Does drawing of the human anatomy come naturally to you? Are you skilled enough to make a picture of an apple with all the shading, details, and nuances without batting an eye? Whether or not you are, you are setting your standards for art too high. Yeah, I get that it's your opinion, but I can have an opinion on your opinion. You think that just because somthing lacks, or has little meaning, it's not art. Either you are looking down at people who don't match your own skill level, or you're setting professionals past and present as the standard.

Thank you for missing my point entirely. No matter how someone "defines" effort, just because someone works hard on something doesn't make it good.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-18 16:57:38 +0000 UTC]

No, it's only meaning is to get people off on it. There's no message or expression in that. That's smut

It's nice how you keep rehashing the same thing. Getting people off is sexual release. Sexual release is meaningful. You can try to demonize that feeling of release all you want, but that doesn't change what it is.

And I will repeat this: Porn doesn't strive to express or convey any meaning or expression of any kind. It only exists so one can fap to it.

Art only exists as an expression of creativity. One must be able to be creative in order to create images or stories that convey the feelings nessicary to invoke sexual feelings. People don't just look at a scribble labled "sex" and start touching themselves.

just because someone works hard on something doesn't make it good.

Good is purely opinion and speculation. I think the mona lisa is plain and stupid. That doesn't mean it's any less famous or acclaimed because one person doesn't like it. You think porn isn't art, that doesn't mean it's any less of an art form.

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-19 06:38:15 +0000 UTC]

It's nice how you keep rehashing the same thing.

Ironic.

Getting people off is sexual release. Sexual release is meaningful. You can try to demonize that feeling of release all you want, but that doesn't change what it is.

Please don't be confusing the art that explores the sensual with pictures whose sole purpose is nothing but objectification by strange and bizarre means.

Art only exists as an expression of creativity. One must be able to be creative in order to create images or stories that convey the feelings nessicary to invoke sexual feelings.

It's funny because fetish pictures such as the ones described here in this rant don't tend to create any deep or meaningful stories and the only image they get across is the fact that they're making some poor girl gigantically, impossibly huge by methods that can be considered bastardized versions of bondage.

Good is purely opinion and speculation. I think the mona lisa is plain and stupid. That doesn't mean it's any less famous or acclaimed because one person doesn't like it. You think porn isn't art, that doesn't mean it's any less of an art form.

...Wooooooooooooow. No, I mean it, really. Woooow.

You have pretty much given me reason to not take you seriously anymore.

BTW, in this case you're insinuating that anything done on this site is art just because it was drawn on a piece of paper or done in about 5 minutes in Microsoft Paint with little to no effort. In which case, you would be wrong.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-20 21:45:44 +0000 UTC]

It's funny because fetish pictures such as the ones described here in this rant don't tend to create any deep or meaningful stories and the only image they get across is the fact that they're making some poor girl gigantically, impossibly huge by methods that can be considered bastardized versions of bondage.

And the record plays on... Also, I've just noticed that you've only been refering to inflation art as making girls impossably huge. Yeah, thats a good part of it, but to get more technical, there's also breast inflation, butt expansion, and not every picture involves making the girl too huge to move. That changes nothing said, Just tossing that out there. Just because you don't like a girl getting really big doesn't make it any less sensual.

BTW, in this case you're insinuating that anything done on this site is art just because it was drawn on a piece of paper or done in about 5 minutes in Microsoft Paint with little to no effort. In which case, you would be wrong.

You see that because you want to. Thats not what I've been saying at all. Yeah, there is some badly drawn stuff on here, I won't lie. What you are implying is I think everything is art. Hell, I could sift thru my favorites folder and find a lot of things that arn't art. What I've been trying to say is that art doesn't have to fall under any specific standards to be art. No more of this 'it doesn't have a story/undertone' stuff. As Freud used to say, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes art can look pretty even without a purpose. I can see the reply now: A paragraph explaining "Art needs to have a deeper meaning to be art" or some crap like that. Just stop, smell the roses, and move on. Art can still be art without the god damn subtext.

Subtext is a little extra flavor, sometimes added by the artists, sometimes added by bullshit would-be critics. If one is in art appreciation class, or if one is generally interested in what was behind the work and how the artist came to create that figure, it's easy to see how one could go out of their way to take the pointless and hold those in lower regaurds.

I love Van Goh's "Skull with a Burning Cigarette" not because he said in a letter that he could only remember having six hot meals a year, or that he used all the money Theo sent him on art supplies. I don't care why he made it, or that in the time he spent in Antwerp around it's conception he added a few new colors to his pallet. Subtext and story in art are fun, and interesting, but if you're letting that rule your outlook on what is and isn't art, you're blind.

...Wooooooooooooow. No, I mean it, really. Woooow.

I do. I see your opinion on my opinion is rather negative, just like the general opinions on your essay, yet negative opinions about our opinions shouldn't change 'em. Oh wow... "You don't like the Mona Lisa, you must suck at everything, lulz"

You have pretty much given me reason to not take you seriously anymore.

I hate you, and the way you think. That changed nothing on how serious I took your ideas and views. Now that you arn't taking me serious any more, just because I don't like a painting of Francesco del Giocondo's wife, then I find it impossable to take you seriously, since it's now clear that everything has to agree with how you see it, or it's nothing you can consider.

Beside, this rant, and all the replies for it have ALL been pointless, so why are we still doing this?... besides just to kill time?

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-24 05:00:58 +0000 UTC]

Also, I've just noticed that you've only been refering to inflation art as making girls impossably huge. Yeah, thats a good part of it,

Gee, really?

but to get more technical, there's also breast inflation, butt expansion,

I'm not talking about breast or butt inflation. Those are fetishes that I'll address another day.

and not every picture involves making the girl too huge to move. That changes nothing said, Just tossing that out there.

Well, they could have fooled me. :/

Just because you don't like a girl getting really big doesn't make it any less sensual.

2 things about that:

1. A girl getting "big" in this sense is putting it extremely lightly. More like "massively, impossibly, gigantic to the point of overall nausea."

2. A girl getting overly inflated or gigantic isn't universally sensual or arousing, it's a fetish that caters to a perverted audience, therefore the whole "sensual art of the human body" argument defending inflation is null and void.

You see that because you want to. Thats not what I've been saying at all. Yeah, there is some badly drawn stuff on here, I won't lie. What you are implying is I think everything is art. Hell, I could sift thru my favorites folder and find a lot of things that arn't art.

Holy shit dude, I think you're purposely trying to contradict yourself.

You're trying to defend that this strange fetish is art, and you say you could look through your favorites gallery and find a majority of things that aren't art. Yet browsing through your favorites gallery would show that the vast, vast, VAST majority of things in said favorites gallery are nothing but fetish wank material. That's pretty fucking confusing. Are you actually agreeing with me or not?

What I've been trying to say is that art doesn't have to fall under any specific standards to be art. No more of this 'it doesn't have a story/undertone' stuff. As Freud used to say, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

That's all fine and dandy, but we're not talking about cigars, fella. We're talking about a abnormal sexual fetish on the internet.

Subtext is a little extra flavor, sometimes added by the artists, sometimes added by bullshit would-be critics. If one is in art appreciation class, or if one is generally interested in what was behind the work and how the artist came to create that figure, it's easy to see how one could go out of their way to take the pointless and hold those in lower regaurds.

I'll put it to you this way: Do you think there's a reason that porno movies aren't put on the same level as actual film? You don't watch a porno movie and afterwords say "I learned something today." Nobody puts "Mega Milfs 39" on the same level as "The Godfather" or "Apocalypse Now."

I hate you, and the way you think.



That changed nothing on how serious I took your ideas and views. Now that you arn't taking me serious any more, just because I don't like a painting of Francesco del Giocondo's wife, then I find it impossable to take you seriously, since it's now clear that everything has to agree with how you see it, or it's nothing you can consider.

I can respect you not liking it. I can understand that. But...plain and stupid? Really? That's...that's out there.

Also, truth be told, I don't know why so many people are taking this stupid rant I made out of pure boredom so seriously. Unless I underestimated my own typing skills, and this rant is actually stopping people from drawing this smut or making them feel really angered/shameful about the whole thing, then why the Hell should this be taken as seriously as it has been? I'm just expressing my own opinions on this issue here.

Finally, the only reason I keep replying is because people keep commenting. I would leave this piece alone if it didn't get so many "DONT ATK OUR FETISH, K?" or other such comments.

And also doing it for teh lulz.

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Uniquename02 In reply to MechanicalDoom [2008-10-24 06:28:50 +0000 UTC]

Look, if we can't take eachother seriously any more, then why not just change the subject?

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MechanicalDoom In reply to Uniquename02 [2008-10-24 16:45:19 +0000 UTC]

Because I keep getting replies and comments about this rant.

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