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This is intended as a counterpart to [link]Kaitlin is skinny. A lot of times, images of her garner catty remarks about how she needs to eat more, or whatever. Anyhow... I'd been thinking of doing a shot of her sitting in a corner with a plate with a single baked bean on it, but then I realized that it'd be pretty hard to see what was going on. Besides, the nasty remarks are often unsubtle - which means an unsubtle image is more likely to work.
Anyhow, I find it amazing that people are so concerned about whether a complete stranger is fat, or thin, or tattooed, or - whatever. As if it's their business, somehow? Well, if it's my business, I make sure my models are well-fed.
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"but for some reason it's only that one topic." Yep.. It'd be nice to hear some kind of specialist about this subject. I've tried to find an answer to that question a lot already, and cannot figure it out clearly once for all...
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In America we habitually overeat. Our restaurants give us a full days calories (sometimes more) in one single meal. We have the insane point of view that being fat is natural, but being skinny is beautiful. Being HEALTHY is natural, and neither end of the spectrum is good. And we are so conscious of the potential to offend that you don't dare discuss it with anyone unless THEY bring it up, and even then it's walking on glass and tacks, because you never know when they'll get upset.
Jealousy is a big part of it yes. The ancient human habit is to find something/somebody we consider superior to ourselves, and instead of trying to raise ourselves to their level, we destroy them so we are equal. (I just said this on somebody elses response to this, sorry about the repeat.)
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As someone who's struggled with both extremes of weight, I've an annoying friend who's got the see-food issue, but still can't put on weight (scrawny guy with hollow cheeks and sharp ribs...) and another who eats little but junk-food, and remains dangerously underweight... At the other extreme I've a few friends who eat healthy food sparingly (and in one case exercises constantly) who can't lose weight and struggle to stop it increasing... There's more to weight than eating disorders...
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True, and I recognize that - considering that several of my friends have thyroid conditions. And I myself suffer from mild to moderate Hypoglycemia, I can eat quite a bit over the course of a day without gaining much, and if I don't eat well enough I can run the risk of collapsing. I thankfully don't have Diabetes, and I'm the only one of my fathers three kids who doesn't. I maintain my weight mainly by eating lots of small servings. I eat roughly half of what most of the folks I know do in a serving, including the ones who are much younger and in better physical shape, but I eat many more times. But I also know tons of people who can't refrain themselves from eating an entire half-gallon of ice cream in one sitting every time they buy one - as an example - who complain about their own weight, and then get upset if YOU bring it up. THOSE are the ones who will complain about somebody else having anorexia if SHE isn't as overweight as they are.
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yeah, it's been posited I might have some form of diabetic condition, leading to the vast swings in weight. (apologies for my use of metric, but it's what I know) When my partner and I met i was weighing in at 69 kilos, the lightest I'd been since i was 7, on a diet of junk-food from the Uni canteen: three years later, living on a diet of home-cooked food, no longer able to afford to eat "out" at the uni, all of it low fat, I ballooned in three months from my normal 78kg to a whopping 96! Broad shouldered, heavy set and with massive thigh muscles from an adolescence of swimming back-stroke and playing Rugby at school (and second row at that - the guys who provide the real push in the scrum) my ideal weight is about 82-84 kgs, but aside from the fluctuations that come and go suddenly, I tend to hover about 78 (and have done since i was 8), unable to gain enough weight to not get dizzy-spells if I stand up quickly...
Admittedly, as a result of comfort eating, I'm currently at a healthy weight, but the media image is making me feel fat, getting me depressed and I'm starting to comfort eat as a result. This vicious circle is why I weighed 78 kg at 8 (got heavy, in that early-puberty way, got picked on for being fat (and unfit as the weight came on quite suddenly) and started comfort eating to try to make myself feel better, the more I got heavy the more I ate, the heavier I got, the less fit I became, the more I ate... it became a vicious circle. Even where someone's weight is a result of lifestyle choices, it's not helpful to point it out (not so much aimed at you as at random passers-by). In the west of Scotland, which I've called home for nearly eleven years, a large, bulbous pot-belly is actually seen as a status-symbol in many social groups - proof that they can afford to eat...
I'll stop proselytising...
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Wow! That's really interesting.
The connection between brain chemistry and eating is not well-understood yet by any means. One lady I know is severely bipolar and switched to some new drug and put on 30lbs in no time at all. Something messes up the body's regulatory system...
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Yeah, drugs do funny things... I was put on appetite suppressors after getting a stomach infection, and developed breast tissue developing to a b-cup before i finished the course... It was apparently a reaction to other meds I was on...
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See that's the thing I find troublesome and hard to understand, but I know so many people who do it - eating to feel better about being overweight. It's one of those quirks of human psychology that makes no sense. But ultimately, the goal is to be happy with yourself, and BE somebody you can be happy with - to find that happy medium for yourself. And NOT try to fix everybody else instead of yourself. I love people who have severe problems, but rather than face them head-on and do something about it, they'll find somebody else to fix instead. It's a longstanding quirk of human nature that instead of making ourselves as good as somebody we think is better than ourselves in some way, we work to destroy them so that we're all equal. We've done this with entire civilizations in the past, and we still do it even on an individual level.
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and on a civilisations level as well...
Not to be rude, but the USA and UK engaged in a Cold War against the USSR, and now often claim that they invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, to ensure, uphold and/or protect democracy, while neither truly have democratic governance, through the electoral college and "State of National Emergency" (instituted after the Wall Street Crash and not yet rescinded) in the US and the very fact that the United Kingdom of Great Britain and the Dominion of Northern Ireland, Crown and Commonwealth Dependencies has in its name those two words "Kingdom" and "Crown" (plus the dependencies often have to pay tax revenue to the British Treasury without getting proper suffrage as to its disposal).
as for the comfort eating, it's all to do with Glucose levels - your blood sugar levels rise when you eat cr@9 (whether sweets, crisps, processed junk) much faster than with slower burn foods, giving a quick, but often short-lived endorphin boost and a temporary high (in a similar (if less dangerous) way to cocaine, and (as with cocaine) this high becomes addictive and the crashes unbearable, it's the same with self-harmers, daredevils etc. - the high of an endorphin rush gets you hooked and you're caught. I've fought off a food-addiction before (and at least one behavioural one) and I'm sure I'll manage it again, but what helps in overcoming addictions, particularly where there is a visible and definable root-cause, is support from friends and family, or even from total strangers, rather than the derision that is often the primary reaction, whether the addiction is to eating or to starving oneself. Often people who have weight issues will point to how skinny (or heavy) others are as a cry for help for themselves, not to be directly critical - don't daemonise, sympathise... (excuse the corny alliteration please)
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Well to look at the civilization thing from our (or at least my as a U.S. Citizen) POV, at the end of WW2 the Soviets had pretty much openly declared war against Democracy - which was pretty pointedly directed at the U.S. - and worked to overthrow every government which wasn't Communist. So from our POV we were just fighting back - though I have to admit that our methods and goals often really sucked. And despite some clumsy wording, the "War Against Terrorism" - also wasn't started by the U.S. We didn't fly planes full of civilians into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. We are just trying to figure out how to prevent such things from happening again. And I'll note, that the World Trade Center attack was from my POV an attempt by somebody who saw us as superior to themselves to destroy us to bring us down to their level. But maybe we should drop the greater political conflict out of this and just keep it simple at more directly to THIS point.
As for daemonizing people who have addiction problems, well you are right in that I should try to be more empathetic, but I find it hard to when their method of getting "sympathy" and help involves daemonizing and harming somebody else in order to get attention.
There are two motto's I try to live by, the first one is the Doctor's Creed (though I'm not a Doctor, I believe in the point of this): "And first, do no harm." And the second one goes back to Old Pagen/Mystical teachings: "And thou harm none, do what thou shalt."
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i am a US citizen and though our government has never openly flown planes full of civilians into businesses, our government has sabotoged the "enemy" machines resulting in far higher civilian deaths than all five 9-11 airplanes combined. for if you look at the other side of the coin we, the US, are the terrorists. we force our ideals on other countries for our own gain not the betterment of their systems. in iraq and the middle east, they have had a system of government predating the US and were prosperous. then the US invites an attack by being arrogant and nosy so that they can enforce their will to profit an oil barron. and the only democricy we have is the facade that the people have a choice.
my appologies for the rant. it was unnavoidable feel free to ignore.
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Well I agree that the U.S. and it's past leaders aren't perfect. We've a record of making friends with very bad people just because they they favored things we wanted done. Now, as for this story about this sabotage stuff, what exactly are you referring to? I will admit that I find politics basically extremely boring so I leave that to my conspiracy-theorist friends and family. I am primarily a student of ancient history as far as that goes, so I tend to take the broader view of things than most when it comes to history.
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exact instances escape me but the idea of sabotage was one we stole from the soviets. as i'm sure you are aware sabotage is russian. but spies and special military groups are specially trained for sabotage. the conspiracies suggest that chernoble was the result of american sabotage. i doubt that one but there were several missile designs that america sabotaged then stole durring world war 2. there is the thought that the us even stole the designs for the space shuttle and other space craft from other countries and then sabotaged theirs or switched the plans. i again take a neutral stance on that one. but the point is america has admitted for a short time before our enslavement under the patriot act that america has sabotaged our "enemy's" plans through the declassification of official documents that were promptly ripped from public view the moment the masses blinked and the sealed for national security after the patriot act.
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Actually the word Sabotage is Japanese. It's based on the word Sabot, which is the Japanese wooden shoe. When WW2 was drawing to a close the Japanese People wanted it to end. They were tired of seeing their sons be sacrificed for a war they realized they couldn't win. So the workers in the factories that were building the war-machines would break the machinery by throwing their shoes into it. The word was coined from their acts.
And the conspiracy-fanatics will raise any sort of pet theories about the heinous things our government has done to prove how villainous any given President or series of them were. There's never any proof, just rumors of proof thats conveniently hidden. With so many false rumors of that sort always floating around, how can anyone recognize even the real ones in the muddle?
Again I'll say that I realize that the U.S. Government is far from perfect, the people running it are after all still HUMAN, but when I look around at the Governments running the rest of the world, well: "there, but for the grace of God, go I." comes to mind. And I'm an agnostic.
I won't hide my face in shame over RUMORS of wickedness that I am claimed to be part of when I'm doing everything I can to end the wickedness somebody else is doing to me. It's foolish to claim that when one is assaulted as we were on 9/11, that one should not do everything in ones power to prevent a reoccurrence because one has also done something wrong once.
If a drug-dealer who got wealthy by selling drugs to his druggies then goads one of them into mugging me because I've clearly got more money than the druggy, I'm not going to accept it because I have a criminal record of my own, I'm going to want to put the whole chain out of commission. If I can, I'm going to do what is needed to put the Dealer out of commission too so that he can't goad some other druggy into assaulting me at another time. The people who engineered 9/11 and work to coerce the people who do those things are far wealthier than you or I, and are claiming that WE are preventing their poor people from being as wealthy by hoarding our wealth and that our worship of a False God gives them the RIGHT to kill us so that their offspring can have it.
I will maintain again, the people who have something good, like a hot body, didn't get it by walking on the backs of everyone else, they EARNED it through their own hard work. If you are jealous of them, then work as hard as they did and get what they have for yourself, don't attack them for it until they don't have it either.
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the 9/11 group was a small independent group that whent to bin laden for money to fund their attack. the whole image of bin laden or sudam hussan being master minds of terror towards the us was an invention of the us to allow them to prosecute them without being present. the term al quida was created for that purpose and they adopted it because it made them sound better to their own followers who also disliked the us for the exact reasons you said. i am a proud american don't get me wrong i wouldn't want to live in any other country. but as americans we have to acknowledge that our government works because it is screwed up. but the biggest reason i feel we got attacked at all is because we as a nation feel that we have to control all others in the world. i say we leave other nations to do their thing and only worry about our defense. so that when attacked regardless by whom we take out the threat, but the example you gave is slightly off from what happened with the 9/11. beyond the fact that we are agreeing without saying it i think we may just have to agree to disagree because although i was wrong on the origin of the word sabotage, i double checked and you were right, and rumors aside every nation that has ever warred against another has participated in sabotage, spying, and theft to gain the advantage over the other even before the formation of "civilization" when humans formed clans and tribes such things occured.
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I would say that the reason we get attacked has to do with the fact that we ARE so isolationist, we have this "we are superior to everybody else and we're going to treat everybody else as an inferior when we bother with them at all" attitude that pisses everyone else off. If anything that isolationist attitude would be why we would DESERVE the sort of rep we have elsewhere. People only take the "WE'RE great, and YOU don't matter" attitude for so long. When you start giving in to that isolationist attitude of "nobody matters but me" then where does it end?
But there is a certain point where the other person has to take responsibility for themselves and lift themselves up by their own bootstraps and achieve better for themselves, not expect somebody else to carry their dead-weight. And not work to destroy the other person so that nobody is better of than the destroyer.
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that is very very true
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FYI - Anorexia is not (apparently) a behavioral problem; it's a genetic and neurological disorder - a form of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. Sufferers from eating disorders may respond to behavioral counseling, but antipsychotic drugs work better. It's not an addiction at all.
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That would make sense, the medical condition is called Anorexia Nervosa, I believe, which would make it a nervous - IE emotional/psychological - condition. I would imagine that SOME of the people who over-eat have something similar. But I have trouble letting that be an excuse for them abusing people who don't have their problem any more than I excuse myself for being abusive to others because of my own nervous conditions. I discovered, that when I really WANTED help, I could get it, regardless of my inability to pay for it - my therapist continued to see me even in those months when I had to beg friends to buy Raman for me so I could eat and fill my gas-tank so I could go see my therapist, and she let me come without ANY payments. I was lucky, but also "I" went looking, it didn't come find me.
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I will admit that my view on the Cold War is influenced on being the son of a Communist, in a country with a sizeable garrison of troops from one of the major players on the "Democratic" side in an occupied area of the country (where suffrage had just been granted to the original ethnic group, of which I was a part, who were still being treated as terrorists in the border conflict that led to a long and fairly quiet civil war), while the USA tried to bully the remaining part into joining NATO, or at the very least into taking a number of US nuclear weapons facilities. As for the World Trade Towers attacks, said father was meant to be on the next flight along the flight path of one of those planes that were involved (ie, he was sitting in an airport waiting for the plane to land so he could catch it).
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Then I guess I can understand your POV. I know that I have not felt that "the ends justify the means" on many of the old/modern U.S. policies, even though I've seen the point of "the end" in most cases. I'm only in my late 40's now so I can't claim to have lived through the aftermath of WW2, just talked to my elders and friends who often had more knowledge and emotion involved than I did. I absorbed a fair amount of that I think. I can say though that over here the coming down of "the wall" separating the halves of Germany was watched with a mixture of relief and fear. Relief that the need for the wall seemed to be gone, and fear that we might see another rise of a German-influenced war in Europe now that Germany was finally reuniting. I am 1/4 German, my ancestors came over here a generation or two before WW2, and there was some emotion involved with them towards the war that stayed around until I was old enough to understand it.
Man I can't imagine having a parent that close to the WTC mess. It might seem like an amazing fact, but most of the U.S. has already forgotten about the terror of that day it seems. They want us to go back to the old "just leave the world alone, and maybe they'll leave us alone" thought that we mostly had BEFORE. I don't see how that "lets ignore the troubles in the world" attitude can help us anymore, not that it ever did help us. I don't know if our methodology over in the middle east is good or not, perhaps time will tell for sure if we will have a positive influence or not. But at some level it feels like that what we have to do is treat the terrorists and those that support/fund them as if they were a cancer, and hope that with them excised, that something healthier will grow in their place.
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Yeah, when the Berlin Wall came down we saw it as a sign that there was hope for our country, where peace has broken out since. Having grown up in the occupied area, I was raised with suspicion against Germans, only to find that my people had fought on both sides in the Fascist/Non-Fascist wars through cultural associations with the British from more than 4 centuries of British rule clashing against the Dominance of the Roman Church with the Government of the time. But the thing to remember is that as heads-of-state go, Hitler (and indeed Saddam Hussein) were elected democratically, their reigns only becoming dictatorships after election, in the same way as Robert Mugabe...
Interestingly my father was returning from a conference on border conflicts...
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And I have to say that I am very pleased with the progress that the new united Germany, as well as other former Communist-controlled countries like Poland have done with themselves now that they've been freed to make their own decisions. 40 years is a long time, for the chance for that, but you have to wonder what Europe would be like if the U.S. had not been so aggressive in pushing for Democracy. My war-fanatical friends would tell me stories about the things that the communist S.U. had done towards the end of WW2 and continuing that made them not that much different from Nazi Germany except in that they didn't try to legitimize their extermination of unwanted cultures and individuals by publicizing them. I like to use metaphors sometimes to get points across. I think that perhaps the suffering of the Cold War may have been like the forging of a sword. During the forging process the metal is subject to all sorts of stress: the heat of the forge, the abuse as the hammer shapes it, etc, but when you are done with all the suffering and abuse you have something strong and resilient for the future. The suffering that your parents generation did, and yours did, will hopefully temper your descendants and make their lives more peaceful. It's more important to recognize what you have become, and could become, than wallow in bad memories of what brought you there.
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Unfortunately, while peace has broken out back home, in Glasgow the descendants of immigrants, especially those from the time between the conflicts that led to the current situation, are intent on keeping up the conflicts, whether after football matches or just on weekend evenings. typical really... perhaps that's why the only other ex-pats I keep in touch with are people whose families moved from other colonies in the 1960s... including not talking to family members who were born to those who fled the independence conflicts (despite some living the next street over).
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*nods* Like I'd originally said, there are always those who feel it's better to destroy somebody else to bring them down to their own level rather than building themselves up to the other persons. It appears that there is an oddity in human nature that if you are jealous of what somebody else has, the first instinct is to take it from them, rather than get your own. Sad, hm?
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This is fantastic! Love the concept and the cute execution.
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very original - and nicely done
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I wish I could eat that much and stay skinny. Hell, I just wish I could stay skinny. Actually, I wish I WAS skinny.
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LoL, good image. Some people cant help but be skinny. My older brother has a high metabolism, and cant put on much mass to save his life (figuratively speaking).
It is annoying though when those that can dont to put on the perception, but yeah, in this case, if she cant help it, it isnt her fault
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