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Published: 2016-09-22 12:20:06 +0000 UTC; Views: 5303; Favourites: 157; Downloads: 2
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I have been involved in so much drama lately that I felt the need to make a stamp about the rediculous behavior of many CS owners and their hardcore followers and fans.If you personally feel attacked by the stamp, or the explaining which will follow below, then I have two words for you "GROW UP!"
Okay but let's start at the beginning.
I got into CS some time 2 years ago and thought they are cool, beautiful designs and cute species ideas. I wanted to do something similar and got attacked for it from various different people (like 10 different people) who told me I can not use a banadana with white swirls on a chibi dog character. They explained me in a pretty rude way what a closed species is and what is means that you can´t make your own.
No, it was not the owners of sushidogs who told me this in a note or my image, it was different rediculous members of their group and community who didn´t have this job to do so. Now I wonder why this happened. Why are the owners of CS often not caring of what their own members do to others? Do they support this kind of bullying?
Now many people think it is indeed illegal to make an own character which has a trait of a popular CS.
But fact is, that it is NOT illegal. The CS owners usually know that, since why they don´t take legal action against people who make off-brand species or even a copy with a different name. It is not my personal opinion, it is a true fact you can read on DA's policies but also on different other sourced about legal rights. Ideas cannot be copyrighted. That means, when you draw a fan tailed whatever animal, you cannot claim this as your own. It may was your idea BUT it doesn´t mean you have the right to forbid others to make one too. Sadly there are people who are that ignorant to believe, they can take away your personal rights and forbid you everything they want, just to have a personal benefit (money of course).
It is true we all need money to survive and we can indeed make a living out of a CS and adopts which is totally okay, BUT by all means, none has to endure such a deradation and threatening when it comes to the happenings on this site.
If people make an own species made out of water, or with a curled tail or a fan tail or whatever, they have all rights to do that.
When you as a fan or an owner doesn´t like that, you have all options to avoid contact to this person, you may block them, but threatening them and calling them names is against deviantart's etiquette and can cause you being reported and finally banned because these things are bullying.
You just don´t have the right to report someone for using a similar species concept, nor do you have any right to threaten anyone to take down an own made character because of similar traits, nor do you have the right to harass them over this character/species. You have not MORE rights than any other member of this site!
Many CS owners also seem to believe they stand above everything, like when they just take images from google and paste them onto their CS adopts with the argumentation of selling them better this way and with an excuse like "but everyone does that?" Seriously, google is NO free source of images for YOUR adoptables! The things there belong to someone. And yes that also counts for other characters from popular games or logos from soft drink companies etc, logos are an art form and were made by a designer and are OF COURSE NOT your property!
Instead of ignoring someone who tries to help and give advice, many people sadly prefer to start apeshitting, calling names, blocking and hiding comments because they aren´t able to deal with someone who points out the truth. Best thing to do is not even commenting on their stuff because most of the people will start to attack you. Better thing is, you send a mail to the original owner of the art stolen from and report it. Then they can decide if it is worth to do legal action against them.
Another thing which is really bothersome is how these people steal logos and actual real art content from others, yet blame me or other people for "copying/stealing" a species.
Yeah well, some people aren´t able to see the obvious difference. Which was, by the way explained above already.
Get this into your brain or leave this place!
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To those who agree with me, feel free to share this stamp and if you want advice when someone harassed you and are unsure about your rights and situation, you can show me screenshots or send me a note and I try my best to help you out how to deal with this situation properly.
By the way, this stamp is NOT against CS in general, it is against irresponsible and ignorant behavior within CS communities!
Stamp and art by me (C)
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Comments: 169
KashimusPrime In reply to ??? [2016-09-23 20:43:26 +0000 UTC]
Some apes I think come close. Chimpanzees for sure.
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MrWolf86 In reply to KashimusPrime [2016-09-23 21:45:32 +0000 UTC]
Those are animals I never understood X3
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KashimusPrime In reply to MrWolf86 [2016-09-23 21:54:35 +0000 UTC]
They can get pretty vicious with one another. They've been documented as holding grudges and even wars against other tribes. I can see why scientists think they're our closest relatives.
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MrWolf86 In reply to KashimusPrime [2016-09-23 21:57:45 +0000 UTC]
I can imagine and it makes pretty much sense. Maybe I am not social enough to get humans and apes XD
I have asperger's and am more the loner type of person. If I ever bound with other people, it is an honest and deep frienship which usually lasts forever as long as the other person doesn´t disappoint me XD
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KashimusPrime In reply to MrWolf86 [2016-09-23 22:04:17 +0000 UTC]
No worries dear. I'm the same way with socializing. Though I've made terrible choices in friends in the past after they've left me high and dry. Never befriend SJWs if you don't like people telling you how to think or talk. Trust me.
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MrWolf86 In reply to KashimusPrime [2016-09-23 22:09:13 +0000 UTC]
I know what you mean. My dad and his wife are a family who force you to be a certain role too. Luckily I don´t suffer under them anymore.
Some people are incredible but in a negative way. But those people drove me into fighting for my rights. I also made bad friends in the past, I guess this happens to everyone and even your best experiences can´t save you from this because the many various of humans there are you will always meet one who will harm you. The big deal is just to get rid of them before the big damage was done.
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Seabunneh In reply to ??? [2016-09-22 15:28:01 +0000 UTC]
I will draw a swirled bandana on my Jackaloppies(they're not even dogs so..lol) if I want to, you can't ban others from using a friggin accessory or any trait in general..that's so selfish! To hell with that bs!
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MrWolf86 In reply to Seabunneh [2016-09-22 15:35:01 +0000 UTC]
I think these days the sushidog community is much more relaxed about this back 2 years ago it was really insane. I mean I also drew my fantsunekos with a swirl bandana/hood and ribbons before but never got any hate, at least not directly. But back then it was pretty bad.
But I know that some CS owners such as those from grem community or pacapillars who ban you from their group when you dare to buy an off-brand species adopt.
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Seabunneh In reply to MrWolf86 [2016-09-22 15:42:59 +0000 UTC]
Omgg yeah I've been seeing a lot of drama about off brand Pacas lately xD its crazy!
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MrWolf86 In reply to Seabunneh [2016-09-22 15:45:11 +0000 UTC]
And they wonder why there even are offbrand pacas in the first place XD
For now I never saw someone making an offbrand fantsuneko XD
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Seabunneh In reply to MrWolf86 [2016-09-22 16:04:19 +0000 UTC]
Lol I doubt anyone would make an off brand of mine xD
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MrWolf86 In reply to Seabunneh [2016-09-22 16:26:47 +0000 UTC]
Who knows XD but usually only the dick head people see their species being ripped off, not the good and friendly communities XD
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WaningZane In reply to ??? [2016-09-22 12:27:06 +0000 UTC]
i read the beginning part of a bandana on a cute dog. so, if i drew my actual dog in a swirly bandana i actually own, it means i'm copying some species on the internet i may not even know about? -facepalm-
eh well. people will be people. when it comes to opinions everyone thinks their opinion is correct. i'm not saying mine is, i'm merely stating i tend to have a more level-headed idea of things and can agree to disagree, or part amicably or admit i'm wrong.
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MrWolf86 In reply to WaningZane [2016-09-22 12:34:04 +0000 UTC]
I mostly base my opinion on actual facts and laws, it is easier than to build up something utopical.
It is also pretty fair too. Imagine how our world whould look like when monopolism would be legal, then we only had one brand or one owner of everything, like one cola seller, one jeans company etc etc, that would be awful.
By the way, what you did is not copying. Even using this kind of bandana is not copying a species. It is only an arcessory which someone can have. I mean there are many brands who copy the style of Camp David clothes, or Chanel clothes and it is legal because they don´t paste their names onto their clothes. Only because something looks similar to the other doesn´t mean it was stolen or copied or anything and even if, it also doesn´t mean it is legal to harass someone over this or that their idea adaption was illegal too.
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