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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-02 01:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but it would provide a good sort of story.

Garnet would want to seriously kill DKmon since he pretty much represents everything that goes against her views of fusion. All her friends tell her not to go after him, telling her it was a suicide mission and that he'd seriously over-power her. But she doesn't listen and wants to kill the Dark Knight.

Insert lesson about not letting your hatred compromise your safety or consume you.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-02 01:34:33 +0000 UTC]

It would be especially dangerous seeing as DKmon's bread and butter is manipulating people's darker emotions.
I kinda wanna write that now. The story of Garnet discovering the digital world, seeing an example of digi-fusing from afar, learning about it and getting mad, then seeing DarKnightmon utterly abuse it, and deciding to try and stop him. Seems real interesting. 

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-02 01:53:17 +0000 UTC]

But would she get along with Xros Heart/Fusion fighters?

They're not evil and hate the idea of forced fusion too. But they also use the type of fusion that lacks the intimacy and personal connection of Gem Fusion. Would Garnet try to convince them that the way of Gem fusion is superior? Would the Digimon just try and get Garnet to chill since she is freaking out over a sort of universal rule that no-one has any power over. It's not their fault that fusion in there world is different from hers.

I've been imagining some weird fic where Beelzemon and Mervamon (yes I ship them) hear of this type of fusion and are curious about it. Garnet is pleased that there are two others in love who wish to fuse, an hopefully want to remain that way. But I'm getting ahead of myself.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-02 02:45:34 +0000 UTC]

That's an interesting situation. Personally, I feel that at first Garnet might attack them initially, or maybe try to "free" the Digimon of the Fusion Fighters, since it does look like a little kid is using a strange device to force a bunch of creatures into a massive titan for combat without context. But perhaps after an initial fight, Shoutmon would try to explain the situation, in which Garnet would first hear about how digi-fusing works. Garnet would be pissed, despite the others assuring her that they always consent to the fusion. I could see Garnet maybe swiping a Fusion Loader (most probably Mikey's) and giving it to Pearl or Peridot to reverse engineer, to try and make a "gem-style" Fusion Loader, only to fail miserably.

That sounds adorable. But how exactly would they fuse gem-style? The only way I could think to do it is to attach a gem to a Fusion Loader.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-02 03:20:18 +0000 UTC]

That would be interesting (the Gem style fusion loader) I wonder what would happen to the fusions we know if they did that. Like Shoutmon X2, how would he act now that he'd have Shoutmon and Ballistamon's personalities mashed together AND the fusion may look different.

Plus, Kiriha/Christopher might not be the best person to get on garnet's good side (he screams fusing only for power, just less than DKmon).

I have anew idea for a series of drawings now.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-02 03:43:51 +0000 UTC]

The only problem would be where to get the gem. As for how they'd look, I assume it'd be like Matt Burnett said, despite my own head canons; if it's the beings, it will most likely look the same (except for weapon fusions). Personality... that's where it'd probably fail. I feel like if the fusions were more based on mental synchronizing, like gem fusion, then Shoutmon's more flamboyant-personality would probably make it harder to fuse with digimon like Dorulumon or Beelzemon, who are much more level-headed. 

Oh yeah, Garnet would probably charge him after a minute. Though I've been sure if it's MailBirdramon or Greymon controlling that Fusion, since Greymon isn't the most intelligent seeming.

Like, Garnet interacting with the different digi-fusers? If so, then awesome!

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-02 12:33:23 +0000 UTC]

Now I'm Imagining how the other Gems would interact with the FF.

Steven and Cutemon might get along. They both have similar themes: Pink, Healing, Barriers (Steven's shield and Cutemon can make energy barriers).

Connie wielding the Star Sword once or twice. Maybe even have her kick Zenjirou/Jeremy's ass in a sword fight since she WAS trained by a century old gem warrior (I really need to decide on the Japanese or English names for the digimon guys). Maybe Wisemon can science her up some kind of super sword.

Speaking of Wisemon, he'd probably go on one of his dissection sprees when he see's Steven and/or the gems. He's a human (which he's already shown interest in dissecting/experimenting on) but he's also half magical creature, and not a Digimon. But dissecting a gem would eb difficult, you put the scalpel in and they just poof. That'd be annoying for science if anytime you tried to cut something open it just disappeared into smoke.

If we use a redemption AU (with the Homeworld gems), we could have Dorulumon, Beelzemon (former Bagra members and now Xros Heart members) and Olegmon, and Apollomon (Former Death Generals) go to them and say "Don't worry, we've done way worse and now look where we are".

They see the Dust zone and think 'It's like Amethyst's room, only the size of a country'. That'd be horrifying for Pearl. She (Pearl) may like the Heaven/Sky zone though.

What about Lilamon (from the Forest/Jungle Zone). She see's Garnet and is in awe at a creature made of love and wishes she and Stingmon could do that. They even perform their own Love Love Dance in order to fuse................what the heck did I just wright?

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-02 13:25:27 +0000 UTC]

That and Steven seems like the kind of guy who appreciates cute. 

I could definitely see Connie or Pearl gawking at the Star Sword should they get to use it. But I think she and Jeremy would be somewhat equal, since he has a bit more experience in the field.

Seeing as Pearl would probably try to Wisemon the Digimon, they'd probably swap notes or something.

Yeah, Dorulumon alone has probably destroyed more Digimon than Jasper in the entirety of the rebellion, plus all the conquering and slavery.
I also feel that the Homeworld Gems would be uncomfortable with digi-fusing themselves, since Homeworld is super strict about fusion, and the Fusion Fighters use it all willy-nilly.

I can see a joke where Amethyst would say "No it's not... this place has trains." Followed by her trying to kidnap a Trailmon for her room. 

Now I'm imagining Steven and Connie doing the Love Love Dance to fuse, and it's hilarious. 

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-02 23:23:48 +0000 UTC]

Also, Deckerdramon saying that he is a guardian of love and the gems thinking 'the giant mechanical crocodile tank is a guardian of love?' How could a war machine represent love. And then Ol' Decker throws back "Well isn't that what homeworld says about you Garnet?" A little bit of hypocracy there.

One major topic of debate would be how each side dealt with losses. you know one of the big complaints about digimon (in most seasons) is that death has no consequence, everyone gets revived at the end and Xros Wars is no exception. Pearl goes on some patriotic rant about how they actually lost people, their friends/comrades, even Rose sacrificed herself to make Steven (Yes she lives through him, but it's not the same to some people). Unlike Xros Heart who just wished their dead buddies back no problem, no strings attached or anything. Maybe Pearl hears about how the Code Crown brought the army back and thus tries to steal it. She's sneaky enough to evade Garnet's future vision after all (cry for help).

Also, the image of Steven riding on Lion and Cutemon riding on Dorulumon next to them is kind of a funny image to think about.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-03 02:06:59 +0000 UTC]

Cue the Gaossmon appearing and being Deckerdramon's hype-mon.

Well, Tamers had permanent death, but that's the only one (well, maybe Frontier, but it's been a while since I watched that one). And code crowns do resemble gems in their protected forms, so perhaps Pearl would assume it's some kind of gem tech she could fuse with to get reviving powers. Or maybe AxeKnightmon could convince her that he could use the code crowns/Fusion Loader to revive Rose from within Steven, only to use them and Steven for nefarious purposes (RoseKnightmon, maybe?)

An image I thought of was perhaps Malachite Vs. ShoutmonX4B. Centaur against centaur, as it was.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-03 02:26:54 +0000 UTC]

So DarkKnightmon manipulating Pearl to get the code crown. ANOTHER reason for Garnet to hate his guys. Maybe he can manipulate Amethyst by saying he can give her "her rightful form": the Jasper size that she was supposed to come out as.

Steven and Shoutmon trying to jam together but Shoutmon's "unique musical style" doesn't fit Steven's more calm style. HE might get along with Greg and his rock star guitar though. Commence everyone's eardrums exploding.

I think Steven and Dracomon would get along too, despite being less than their usual comrade (Dracomon being a tiny Dragon and Steven being a hybrid who can't fully control his powers yet) they might get along in a sort of "we have confidence even though we might not match up to the rest" vibe going on.

Amethyst showing some of the digimon human food (Shoutmon had NO idea what bananas were in the sweets zone).

Blastmon would be a terror for any gem to fight against. He EATS gems just to make himself pretty. Who knows what would happen if he eats a crystal gem. He might gain their powers. Imagine him eating a quartz gem (like Jasper or Amethyst) he would get their wild hairdos or something.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-03 02:45:26 +0000 UTC]

The differences stack up; Garnet tries not to lie to her fellow gems and help them, while DKnightmon constantly manipulates them. Though the idea that he would give Amethyst her "true form" by force-fusing her with something horrible and her not realizing because she's under his haze is both interesting and terrifying.

Well, now Shoutmon and Greg singing a hardcore version of "Let Me Drive My Van into Your Heart" together is playing in my head on repeat.

As long as they keep Amethyst away from their Digi-Bites. (Personally I think they taste like Funyons)

Oh Jeebus, I didn't think about Blastmon! Though if he ate Jasper, she'd probably punch her way out of his chest xenomorph-style.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-03 02:57:45 +0000 UTC]

Or if Jasper's gem appears on his nose she blasts out of his face. Talk about a nasty booger.

After seeing Lapis in action I wonder if the Blue Flare dudes may try to recruit her (she is one of the most powerful in her hydrokinesis and her color scheme fits) but she "politely" declines. And by that I mean she gives them a good "washing" if you know what I mean.

What about Peridot. The gems have been keeping her under lock and key and/or close supervision at all times. So how would she interact with Xros Heart. Would the digimon try to get them too cut her some slack, would Peridot just observe from afar, or would she somehow escape and try to figure out more about these Digital Creatures?

Jasper would so try and fight everyone, Mervamon, Greymon, Golemon, and Ballistamon (mainly the powerhouses). She and Mervamon may start to have a rivalry (not as friendly as her and Garnet though, her can refers to Mervamon).

The Monitamon playing Xros Heart's adventures to Steven and Connie on their screens and them just staring in wonder and awe at their awesomeness.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-03 03:14:49 +0000 UTC]

I can see it now: Blastmon, powered up, laughing maniacally, when suddenly, his new nose twitches. He rears back, about to sneeze, when Jasper's fist bursts through his face, revealing Jasper, whose form now bears Blastmon-esque armor.

I dunno, I feellike lapis might take Christopher up on that offer. Blue Flare's main thing is gaining absolute power, and as we all know, Lapis does have a thing with trying to gain power. It seems like they'd be a good match. Perhaps Lapis could be his new Nene, if you catch my drift (wink wink nudge nudge).

In my fanfic-author lobe of my brain, I'd think that they get to the Digital World through some kind of secret Homeworld warp pad, so Peridot would probably know the most about the Digimon. However, being a coward in a world where literally EVERYTHING is a weapon, she'd probably keep her distance from the Digimon, Fusion Fighters or otherwise.

I'd like to think that Jasper would attack the biggest looking Digimon she sees (probably DeckerGreymon) thinking it'd gemling's play, only to be defeated in a matter of seconds. As such, she constantly challenges other Digimon in order to get used to fighting them.

I wonder if the Digimon segments at the end of the episodes would be there still, and it'd just be Steven and Connie in Mikey and Angie's place.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-03 12:38:08 +0000 UTC]

And with the Blastmon armor Jasper says "Well at least I got something out of this mess".

Do you think that Amethyst would be friends with the Dust zone crew? The whole interest in garbage and junk and all that. Or maybe she'd try and eat all the houses and buildings in the Sweets Zone.

Wait, Olegmon has an attack where he throws his Axes like boomerangs, and Steven used the "Boomerang Blade" technique to defeat Holo-Pearl. Looks like that ridiculous fighting style in that samurai flick they were watching isn't so ridiculous after all huh Pearl?

I just noticed that if the digimon were to fuse like the gems, wouldn't it just be DNA digivolution from the original season? I remember Veemon (02) saying that their minds merged into one being, and the appearance of the fusion is a mixture of it's components rather than it just looking like all the digimon meshed together like some sort of megazord. That sounds pretty similar to gem fusion (only without the dancing). Maybe I should draw those.

Jasper and her anti-fusion butt getting beat by DarkKnightmon. "Fusion is just a cheap tactic" she says. Then DKmon replies "Oh really? My apologies. Is THIS better for you?" Then he unfuses then SkullKnightmon and DeadlyAxemon kick her butt. "See? Fused or unfused, I can still destroy you."

Maybe Ballistamon and Amethyst can relate to each other in the sense that they were originally made for evil, with Amethyst being made in the kindergarten (which was killing Earth) to be a gem warrior for homeworld (but she just came out late) and Ballistamon originally being DarkVolumon.

sorry if I'm shoving so much stuff at you, this is just fun to talk/think about.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-03 18:28:31 +0000 UTC]

Amethyst would probably be able to get along with people who appreciate good garbage. But I'm pretty sure Pearl would cut them off before they told Amethyst about the Sweets Zone.

Well, the Digital World does get human TV, so maybe Olegmon learned it from there. Or the other way around.

Yeah, DNA Digivolution came to mind, but since Digimon Fusion doesn't use it,I didn't bring it up. Garnet would definitely approve of DNA Digivolving more than Digi-Fusing. Though she may have a problem with the fact that it's not the Digimon themselves that have to be in synch to do it.

That could actually be a cool introduction if DKnightmon to Garnet. Jasper would begin to fight DKnightmon, Mikey would suggest using ShoutmonX5, Jasper says fusion is cheap, DKnightmon defuses, whoops her, and Garnet is horrified by how SkullKnightmon uses Axemon as a literal Axe.

Which reminds me, Garnet would probably be horrified by Weapon digi-fusing. Homeworld constantly uses fusion as nothing but a weapon, and here there's a type of fusion that literally turns another Digimon into a weapon.

It could also show the contrasts, since while Amethyst was made for being a soldier, she never actually did it, while Ballistamon spent a fair amount of time as DarkVolumon

No problem, I feel exactly the same way; I love talking about crossover stuff like this.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-03 23:39:41 +0000 UTC]

If garnet hates weapon fusing, then she wouldn't want Connie to wield the Star Sword.

I was thinking about Steven and Connie getting Xros Loaders. But since Garnet hates Digital Fusion she might forbid it.

The lesson in this story is tolerance. Just because something isn't happening the way you want doesn't mean you should deem it horrible. This can be applied in the real world to other people's religious, romantic, social, and political views. Garnet learning to at least tolerate the Digimon's version of fusion but still thinking her way is better.

What about Lilithmon/Laylamon. The master manipulator should be interesting to fight against. Maybe taking the form of Rose to manipulate Steven and the rest of the gems (like she did with Akari). Trapping Lapis in a maze of mirrors (that brings back bad memories). Not too sure how Tactimon can play into this.

You have any ideas? I'm running on fumes here and these ideas are just so much fun to think/talk about.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-04 00:45:50 +0000 UTC]

I could see a funny scenario from that; Jeremy summons the Star Sword, mows down some enemies, leaving Connie awestruck. Jeremy offers Connie a few swings, when Garnet pops up, yelling "NO" and smacking the Sword from his hand.

Well, it could lead to an interesting situation; Steven and Connie receive Fusion Loaders, maybe even partner Digimon. However, Garnet's anger makes them apprehensive over keeping them. But, the longer they hang around the fusion fighters and talk to the other Digimon about digi-fusion, the more they realize that it's not worse than gem fusion, just different. They then decide to help Mikey and the gang finish of the Bagra Army.

Garnet... doesn't take it well.

Yeah, and Steven and Connie using Digi-Fuse would be the perfect bridge. A battle breaks out against an all powerful foe (maybe not Bagra, but something as strong, like a fuse between the three generals). The gems can't stop it, not even with Alexandrite. Suddenly, Steven and Connie step forth with their partners, fusing into Stevonnie as they Digi-Fuse their partners with Shoutmon and the others, merging gem energy with data forming Shoutmon X8 or something that intense. As Garnet looks up and witnesses this, she realizes Digi-Fuse has its good as well as its bad.

Tactimon could perhaps be Jasper's first great victory against a strong Digimon. Like, after she breaks free of Blastmon, reducing him to a head (again), Tactimon comes in and challenges her. They fight for awhile, Jasper begins to fall, when she blocks Tactimon's blade with her bare arm. My idea is that she absorbed some data into her light body when she reformed, giving her diamond hard skin. She then uses these new abilities to supercharge her spin dash and break right through him.

Well, an idea I was thinking of was that once they become close enough friends, perhaps the gems and Digimon could find some way to fuse. I imagine that one of the Fusion Loaders began a Digi-Fuse, perhaps Jasper (who already has some data in her form) would be bathed in the Loader's light, and have her body be converted from light to data, allowing her to digi-fuse.

Also, I wonder what would happen if during this adventure, the Fusion Fighters and Blue Flare end up following the Gems to Beach City. A whole range of interesting interactions could arise from that.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-04 01:57:11 +0000 UTC]

Steven would have a Rose pink colored Xros Loader and Connie might have a turquoise/cyan Xros Loader. Not too sure on their partners (I should look that up).

If the digimon do find some way to fuse gem style Mervamon may be interested in the ends but not the means. She's a fierce, battle-hardened warrior not some dancing princess. But Garnet will always support a fusion of love.

If the digimon do get to go to Beach City I wonder what the residents' reactions would be. I fear what Ronaldo would say, do, or think.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-04 02:20:26 +0000 UTC]

Steven would probably have a Plant Digimon, like Lolamon or something of that ilk. Connie would probably have a warrior digimon, maybe a member of the Chessmon family, or maybe Leomon, since all groups need a Leomon on their side.

I'm just imagining what a gem syle Beelzemon/Mervamon fusion would look like. (I imagine something Omnimon like)

Here's a few off the top of my head:

Their's the earlier mentioned Greg/Shoutmon interaction, where the two form a band with ear-shattering tunes.

The Digimon and Peedee could team up to make the ultimate digi-fuse: Digi-bits (frybits and Digi-bites)

Connie's parents arriving, seeing the Digimon, and promptly grounding Connie

Wisemon geeking out at all the gemtech

Ronaldo stalking the Digimon

DarkKnightmon following them and finding the forced fusions, which he uses with the Darkness Loader to create Dark Gem Digi-Fusion.

That's I thought of off the top of my head

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-04 03:08:57 +0000 UTC]

Steven bringing a few movies over to the Monita-fort in the warrior zone so they can have a movie night on those GIANT FREAKING WALL SIZED TVS!

Connie going to the sword one for training from other swordsmen. pearl is good but it's nice to learn some techniques from everyone.

Darkknightmon's force fusing the already forced fusions gets homeworld's attention. I'll let you decide what happens from there.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-04 03:35:27 +0000 UTC]

Or maybe Steven using the Supersonic Sparrow to amplify his ukulele playing and singing for the whole zone.

Something that'd be cool would be if at first they wouldn't train Connie, but after she proves herself by beating someone especially strong, they take her in as an equal.

Connie's parents would probably be horrified if she does train in the Sword zone or the Warrior Zone. Just imagine if one day Connie comes home all bandaged and sweaty with a SlushAngemon or a Knightmon and says, "Hey Mom, hey Dad, this is my new teacher. Can he stay for dinner?"

... Gem and Digimon fusion is an interesting idea, isn't it? A being of such power like a Gem uniting with a being of such potential like a Digimon. All they need is a common goal. Well, evil people can have common goals themselves.

YDiamondKnightmon bring anything to mind? 

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-04 12:53:52 +0000 UTC]

I think homeworld may be interested in the Digimon's way of fusion. They seem to be very individualistic or at least value the strength of one over relying on others.

Like I said in the picture, Imagine Malachite but Jasper is in full control with no Lapis backseat driving. Like what DKmon did with his older bro (but we all know how that turned out).

What about Lapis helping out Olegmon in naval warfare? He shows no prejudice towards having women on his crew (Mermaimon and the female members of Xros Heart when they were hypnotized) and having a hydrokinetic on your crew can be very advantageous since water is kind of a pirate's main battleground.

What about the digimon interacting with the fusions. I can imagine Sardonyx just enjoying her massive audience of Digimon, commence Starmon calling her a star which boosts her ego.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-04 16:14:03 +0000 UTC]

The Diamonds would definitely love getting the power of fusion without dealing with the other gems involved.

Except if he decided to fuse with a gem, DKnightmon would probably be able to overpower most gems, and get a special catharsis from it. 

Well, I don't know if gender is as big a deal to Digimon, since despite having gender-based appearances,  Digimon are stated to be without gender. Like gems, actually. But Lapis being a digi-pirate would be cool. 

Or maybe when the gems see Shoutmon's "Ultimate form" (X5B) Then Pearl chuckling at how it's "cute", then they form Alexandrite. Cue an epic sparring match. 

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-04 23:09:06 +0000 UTC]

Isn't the ultimate form X7?

Ballistamon's interest in art (shown in the Sky Zone) may allow him to bond with Pearl. She seems like she'd be a fan of culture and stuff.

I'm out of ideas.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-04 23:39:36 +0000 UTC]

Well, there ultimate form without Blue Flare assissting them.

I could see Pearl maybe even running for Sky Zone's President.

...Darn, I think I am too. It's been a ton of fun talking about it with you, though.

I think I'll write a fanfic with these ideas. We came up with a lot of cool ides.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-04 23:46:45 +0000 UTC]

will you right it here on DA or on fanfiction.com?

If the second then what's your fanfiction name?

It's been fun.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-05 01:14:02 +0000 UTC]

I'm gonna do it on fanfiction.net

It's the same as here, mrtacomam. Probably gonna start it now.

I feel the same. I hope we can talk about something like this again soon.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-05 01:26:49 +0000 UTC]

If you have any problems/writers block, come to me.

Basically it can take place after Xros Wars with Shoutmon's rule over the digi-world and though maybe the code crown screwing up it effects the warp pad at the crystal temple or something.

Just trying to come up with a premise/ way for the characters to meet.

Also, I take the name Celestite on fanfiction since i don't have an account there. Just to say.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-05 02:00:15 +0000 UTC]

Well, if you want, I could open a Google Doc and we could work on it together.

An idea I had was maybe Homeworld made a warp pad to the digital world accidentally during the rebellion, and Peridot was showing the gems the pad when it reactivated.

I'll be sure to keep an eye out for you.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-05 02:22:42 +0000 UTC]

I dunno I have lots of homework from A.P. Physics class. So I might not be able to help with a google doc. If you want to keep this private so no one can get spoilers for the fic we can use notes if u like.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-05 02:43:20 +0000 UTC]

Well, I plan to use most of the ideas we've been talking about, so this whole conversation is one big spoiler for the fic. And yeah, I understand the homework thing; I was a junior with honors classes just a few months ago. But if you like, I could include you in the doc so you can look in when you have the time.

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MystechMaster In reply to mrtacomam [2015-11-05 03:03:23 +0000 UTC]

sure okay. Good Luck. When do you think you should be able to get it up?

Also, would you be able to update regularly? I hate having to wait months before a fic is updated.

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mrtacomam In reply to MystechMaster [2015-11-05 03:19:31 +0000 UTC]

Alright. So, to put you in the doc, I'll need your gmail, if you have one. Could you send it to me in a note?

Well, I have a doc up that I'm gonna start writing in tonight.

I'm going to try and write at least three chapters before I upload it to the website. That way I'll have some breathing room once they're up.

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