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Published: 2012-12-05 01:26:09 +0000 UTC; Views: 5772; Favourites: 396; Downloads: 17
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Taking advantage of someone's low points in life (such as a friend's/family member's death for example) as an opportunity for you to convert them to your religion is incredibly insensitive, underhanded and just plain wrong. If you have to resort to tactics like that to change someone's mind, that sure says a lot about you and your position!
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Animals. Have. Souls.I am devastated right now so much so that I am crying waterfalls of tears. Here is why:
so this morning I went for a walk before the rains came and as I was walking I ran into a poor little squirrel that had clearly been run over by a bicycle as a car would have obliterated the poor thing.
So I kelt down beside it and gasped in horror as it was still breathing very short gasps of air and that it appeared the have contracted The Plague (Black Death) as I saw what appeared to be a bubo in between its legs. A couple of minutes later it breathed its last and died. I prayed that it went to a happier place then decided to get its corpse off of the sidewalk somehow without touching it.
A man whom was riding his bicycle stops and helps me get the dead animal off of the sidewalk. Then he said to me that he was a animal lover and seeing dead/dying and abused animals made him sad too. I said that I myself deeply loved animals and that hopefully this one was up in a heaven/paradise enjoying itself
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Once someone tried to use my mother’s death to convert my family to Christianity. Just no.
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like how Christians are now exploiting hurricane Harvey and saying they deserved it....
oh wait, that's sjw's saying they deserved it for voting Trump. XD my bad!
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I've literally have had Christians try and tell me my depression was the result of my Atheism... Oh yeah I'm soooo depressed cause I don't believe in your magical sky daddy! It's not at all because of my actual problems such as the death of my family, my terminally Ill dog, my chronic anxiety, etc. No not at all! It's totally cause I don't have gawd... And Christians wonder why Atheists are often so salty towards them, I think you'd be hard pressed to find an Atheist that hasn't had to deal with some bullshit like this v.v
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Wow, you have the same problems I do. So not kidding. And, what you said here is very true.
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I honestly hate whenever someone blames you for something you had no control over. I feel like when a Christian is depressed, they would just say that God is just testing their faith, and when an atheist is depressed, they say it was their fault for being an atheist, even though as Christians you are supposed to help people in times of distress, not blame them. Sorry to hear about your situation, I hope it gets better.
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Oh man as an atheist, I know the feeling... I got it a lot when I was really depressed over my Dad's death (and two uncles as well which died just weeks later), Christians literally were saying it was my fathers fault he died and that he's in hell because he was an atheist... Like- some Chistians actually believe that atheists have no morals nor feelings... It's fucking horrible. But thanks.
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I think you're mis-assigning reasoning here.
People find refuge, hope, healing, and comfort in God, or if God does not exist, in the idea of God. They want to share that relief with people, much as you would want to bind up someone's physical wound. Painting "tactical" decisions into it is plain incorrect at best intentionally disingenuous at worst.
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My pastor does this. I know he means well, but it's kind of gross. If that person is ready after a tragic event and wants to learn about Christ, you should ask for their permission. Don't do it to soon. The only bad thing I see with this, is I know several people who went though something tragic and was about to commit suicide, and my pastor converting them gave them a reason to live. However, doing this to someone who doesn't want to hear it can also feel as if their emotions are being played with and make them depressed. I really don't know how to feel about this kind of situation.
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I lived with someone who tried to convert me to Christianity because of my past misfortunes
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I have that happening to me all the time too.
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It sucks and its obnoxious x( lol
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I dislike how people do that..I'll never do it.
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My fucking parents do this to my older sister because she stopped with the whole god stuff, an she's had it rough the past few years. She's been getting her life back on track, though, because she's actually getting her priorities in order, not because she's believing in god again, which I doubt she is anyway, one thing we have in common.
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I agree. This is just preying on people at their most vulnerable moments.
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One should believe in a religion because he/she wants to, not because he/she is being exploited.
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Yup, like those missionaries I'm hearing about.
Being honest, they should send FOOD, not a book full of words.
WORDS WON'T FEED ANYONE.
It is putrid, indeed.
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I don't think you understand this.
Missionaries do not actually force people. People can choose.
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I know.
I'm just saying that words don't feed anyone.
And they don't force them, I know. But it'd be nicer if they sent boats full of food over there rather than people with words.
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I agree. If someone is content in their religion, than doesn't need methods like that 
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Unfortunately, people do this all the time. Not just religious people. Liberals, for example, exploit tragedies like the Sandyhook shooting and Colorado to try to ban guns.
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this is an old comment but man is this lame
to clarify: I think this comment sucks because it is completely reasonable for people to want gun restrictions because guns kill MASS AMOUNTS OF PEOPLE IN ONE GO. GUNS KILLS LOTS OF PEOPLE AT ONCE how hard is this to understand???? like dang. jesus christ
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Similar to how the Bush Administration exploited 9-11 to expand airport security and the military? Or how the Space Race was the result of exploiting the Nuclear Threat?
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I totally agree with you!
That's why I respect all religions!
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I've had Christian friends that, when I turned to them for support during a particularly rough time, would recite the same "GOD WILL MAKE THINGS BETTER
And all of the stuff I see about how school shootings or natural disasters are caused by people rejecting God so oh man y'all better start converting if you want less kiddies to die!
Fuck. That.
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I've been through similar shit like that. I felt like smashing some faces...
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Indeed. I'm a believer of God but I know it is wrong to force others to believe what I believe. If I ever have kids someday I will not force my beliefs onto there's, people should have the right to be religious or not that's a person's own descision. It's not up to other people but a person's own personal choice.
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What if converting said person causes their life to improve(church acting as a support group and giving charitable aid), and doesn't atheism also utilize this tactic?
The fact of the matter is when people are down on their luck they are much more open to suggestion which makes sense. If people are doing well they often just continue on as they are.
You can judge a strategies morality to your heart's content, but as long as said strategy remains effective it will be utilized.
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It also may make it worse, or do nothing at all.
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Well if it does nothing at all then the person in question didn't lose anything anyway.
I am trying to think of a situation where conversion could make a person's life worse and I really can't.
The truth of the matter is Christians, Muslims, and Jews don't just preach they also jump into action and improve the lives of their fellows. Judge us not by our words, but by our deeds is basically what I am saying.
I am aware and don't deny that religion has blood on it's hands, but so does everything else. The faithful at least wash the blood off and then go feed the hungry or build homes for the homeless.
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Yes, but help is asked first (except in a situation when it is impossible). Someone might be better with different views. world-hero21.deviantart.com/ar...
People need to find their ways on their own, other people can only be a guide.
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People do ultimately need to make the choice of their own spirituality. They might make the wrong choice and go horribly wrong (poisonous koolaid in the desert). I am convinced that Christianity can work for anyone and everyone, but I can't force them to believe all I can do is try to guide and persuade.
I am not aware of any church Christian or otherwise that intentionally goes after people to try an convert them after they suffer a tragedy or hardship (some cults and con artists do participate in this however).
I know a great many people who come to the church for answers or help in dealing with one though. Basically they come to us.
The exception is missionary work such as occurred after the earthquake in Haiti, and yes in that case we went to them.
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Although that did occur I don't feel that defines all the work Christians did there.
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Honestly I've always been more worried about whether or not the Catholic church will ever be able to live down the "pedophile priest" stigma. I think the kidnapping thing is mostly forgotten by now. I had almost forgotten about it when you brought it up.
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Hmmm.... which is worse, raping kids or stealing them from their homes? There's an interesting debate. Keep in mind, after the kidnapping they'll be given to people who will be able to do whatever they want with them.
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It's not really about which is worse. I was saying I think the former is going to stain the church's reputation for the long term while the later is one of those headlines you read people talk about it at the water cooler on Monday, and everyone forgets about it.
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