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Creationism never made any sense. Β If the world is constantly changing, why wouldn't the creatures that live in it change too?
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EXACTLY!!
and yet people dismiss it saying, "its just theory" so its not fact, so it didn't happen, REALLY, you just became a scientist in second to conclude that its not true and falsified it and basically shattered the basics of biology. 
maybe its the fact people are not educated rightly? I have seen many people having very chattered views over evolution.
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one of my friends who is christian thinks that dinosaurs were created by satan because they were apparently "evil" or something
i honest to god don't know what her parents taught her
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Dinosaurs? Evil? Wow...
At least dinosaurs didn't try to kill each other over beliefs
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i'm laughing a lot
evil dinosaurs
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actually, the evolutionary theory is still a massive theory, far from fact. scientists aren't taking time to test this theory and find proof, but are rather scrambling for another excuse to dismiss Christianity as fake and detrimental science and such. the reality of evolution, still remains a vague assumption at best.
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That is true. However, there is so much evidence supporting the theory it is very unlikely to change unless some scientific breakthrough was made.
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Lol i just want people to stop calling it a fact without the final pieces of the theory to make it like idk.... somewhat official
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Theories could be considered "official," but I don't like to since they still haven't been proven to be a fact.
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That's my point.
Theories may have a lot of evidence supporting them, but it's still just a theory
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You seem to forget that gravity is a scientific theory and let's face it... I think most people would not say it's far from fact.
Atoms are also a scientific theory.
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It is a scientific theory - which means that it has been thoroughly tested and has evidence to support it.
Take a minute sometime to Google the evidence for evolution.
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Humm. it's a theory, not a fact. my statement was in reply to the stamp, not evolution itself. as you can see, this has already been debated.
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"the evolutionary theory is still a massive theory, far from fact".Β The scientific definition of a theory is far different than the colloquial use of the word theory. The colloquial use of the word theory refers more to what a hypothesis would be in science, whereas the scientific definition refers to an extraordinary body of evidence and facts which explain what a certain scientific principle is.Β
"scientists aren't taking the time to test this theory and find proof". Fields of science such as paleontology, biology, genetics, psychology, and certain types of medical research all thrive on the theory of evolution. Evolution is what connects all three of those sciences together, and what is used as the basis of many of their findings. As for medical research, vaccines are a great example of how understanding the evolution of microorganisms can help us develop vaccines against them.Β
"are rather scrambling for another excuse to dismiss Christianity as fake". This is not the objective of any scientists whatsoever. There are scientists, such as Richard Dawkins, who do devote much of their time debating the evidence surrounding religion and the ethics regarding its teaching to children, but I've never heard of a case where a scientist uses evolution to fundamentally prove or disprove the existence of a God. There simply isn't any methodology to obtain such knowledge.Β
"the reality of evolution, still remains a vague assumption at best". I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you've never actually taken a class that is devoted towards teaching evolution. I will also give you the benefit of the doubt and say that any 'research' you might have done on evolution has come from articles online which are quick to dismiss evolution and are not actually reputable sources of information. The theory of evolution has been rigorously tested by scientists, and isn't the foundation of some conspiracy against religion.Β
I don't know how old you are, but I do recommend taking classes in biology, genetics, or anthropology if you're truly interested in learning about the subject. If anything, a Critical Thinking class might also be beneficial to take if those classes are out of the question. A Critical Thinking class would help educate you on avoiding making flawed arguments, making fallacies, and help you identify poor sources as well as reputable ones. If you're not interested enough in evolution to properly research your claims, then I'd advise you to stick to topics which you have a vested interest in researching and debating.Β
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""the evolutionary theory is still a massive theory, far from fact". The scientific definition of a theory is far different than the colloquial use of the word theory. The colloquial use of the word theory refers more to what a hypothesis would be in science, whereas the scientific definition refers to an extraordinary body of evidence and facts which explain what a certain scientific principle is."
don't get too caught up in my terminology. What I meant was that evolution doesn't have near enough proof to be considered a fact, in reply to the stamp's ignorant statement. I did not use this word correctly, my apologies.
""are rather scrambling for another excuse to dismiss Christianity as fake". This is not the objective of any scientists whatsoever. There are scientists, such as Richard Dawkins, who do devote much of their time debating the evidence surrounding religion and the ethics regarding its teaching to children, but I've never heard of a case where a scientist uses evolution to fundamentally prove or disprove the existence of a God. There simply isn't any methodology to obtain such knowledge."Β
Ah sir, see you are employing the use of fallacies, "part to whole", I believe. Just because one scientist is respectful and continues for the sake of science, rather than disclaiming intelligent design, does not mean the entireity of evolutionists do.
Forgive me if I came off as rude, however blunt remarks such as "evolution, fact, not faith" tend to cloud my ability to form a proper argument. The research I have made is based in both evolutionist and christian views, no need to give me the benefit of the doubt. I'm 12, and doing my best to avoid fallacies and poor logic. This is an opinion formed within my mind, based upon experience, research and overall ideals that are entirely unrelated.
I have done my research and chosen which side to support.
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The problem rests entirely in your terminology, because you were arguing with the exact definition of a word. Evolution by natural selection has been observed in a variety of species. We can see this process more rapidly in microorganisms, but smaller genetic changes have also been recorded in larger animals. When a topic in science has been recognized as a theory by the majority of scientists, that means that, by the definition of the word theory, evolution has indisputable facts.Β
A question I feel I should ask is, when you are referring to evolutionists, are you referring to scientists who study evolution, or average day-to-day people who support evolution? If you are referring to the latter, I can understand your point. However, if you are stating that there are scientists who are trying to disprove God by methods of science, I would really appreciate some references.Β
For being 12, I applaud you for your intellectual curiosity, though I strongly encourage taking classes such as those in the future. As for now, the only thing I can encourage you do is to delve deeper into the theory of evolution; read scientific journals, peer-reviewed works, even delve into the biographies of the scientists who publish these works. Evolution is such an influential part of biology, genetics, paleontology, medical research, anthropology, psychology, and biochemistry; if evolution was conclusively shown to be false, then major aspects of all of these sciences would show to have major flaws to their own structures. That itself is not an argument, but rather a statement to show just how radical of a statement it is to say "evolution is not true".Β
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I was indeed referring to the later.Β
evolution in a microscopic sense is certainly sensical, however the idea that by natural selection man evolved from a single cell in the sea is not. (well at least to me)Β
I'm working towards obtaining entry into a critical thinking class
And from here on out, I will remember to use correct terminology to prevent further misunderstanding.
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Still just a theory, hence why they don't teach in my school.
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holy shit lol what kind of school do you go to where evolution isnt even covered in a simple biology class
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I live in Louisiana. Does that shed some light here?Β
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well i havent lived there so i have no idea what it's like
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It's the south basically. :/
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It has scientific research behind it. Sure it's a theory, but it is a strongly supported scientific theory and the truth as far as we know. There are many things taught to be true, but have changed, because of new discoveries. Evolution though seems like it won't change. It has just so much support.
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Holy shit, no wonder you "disbelieve" in evolution.
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Holy shit, no wonder I'm so stupid! /sarcasm
They didn't teach it in my school because my governor believes there isn't enough theory to support it.Β
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In science, the level of scientific theories is the highest order for a model.
A scientific theory is what explains the facts.Β Yes, if some empirical evidence shows the scientific theory to be wrong, then the theory would become false. But as of today, not a single empirical evidence in any fields of biology shows that the scientific theory of evolution is false.
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Clearly you and your school's educators haven't yet grasped the difference between "theory" and "scientific theory."Β
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You do realize what a scientific theory is, right?
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Gravity began as a theory, so was it irrelevant at first?
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i believe in evolution, not to the extreme though. i do believe that some or a lot of animals have evolved through time.
not humans evolving from monkeys though xD a human bone was recently found that was predicted to beΒ
a big number woops forgotΒ
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We didn't evolve from monkeys 
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We shared a common ancestor with current apes like chimps. We didn't evolve directly from them, nor was it something that happened overnight. It always annoys me when people are so ignorant about evolution and say its crazy that we believe monkeys turned into people. Not saying you specifically, mind you.
There are plenty of transitional fossils that have been found further proving this.
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absolutely there is a lot of proof, but i personally don't believe us humans evolved from an apes. i have different beliefs <:
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I'm just curious though. If we aren't primates what are we? Why do we share over 90% of our DNA with chimps? I don't find it hard to believe at all personally. Evolving from a chimp directly yes, that's very far fetched and untrue. But an ancestor that branched off two ways - one way evolving into today's humans, the other branch evolving into chimps - I find that very plausible.
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I don't want to argue or anything xD but we almost share 100% DNA with chimpanzees (98.5%) or primates,
but we also share about 97% Β DNA with mice, so the % of DNA we share with primates is not convincing to me.
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If it helps, homo sapiens (that's us) are still considered part of the apes. We are also part of the primates, placental mammals, synapsids, tetrapods, vertebrates and eukaryotes to name a few.Β We never stopped being part of those as we, homo sapiens, speciated.
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The Theory of Evolution is a fact and the truth
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It's called theory of evolution for a reason.
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Aren't dogs an excellent form of proof of evolutionΒ (or co-evolution at least) because we were around to see it happen? Β
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Actually, it's only a theory. Meaning, it could've happened, but it's not proven.Β
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A scientific theory is a widely-accepted explanation of and predictive tool for a particular aspect of the physical universe, which has been sufficiently tested and supported through repeated observations and experimentation.Β
So, yeah, it's "only" a theory. Β
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yep. It's a theory
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And creationism is a hypothesis.
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It was a hypothesis. But now it's a theory
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lol gravity is proven. Just like how everything in the Bible has been proven true
haha I don't even know anymore ^_^ lets just agree to disagree.
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There's no proof that everything in the bible happened.
And evolution (or at least co-evolution) has proof. God did not create dogs. We did by slowly domesticating wolves.
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Evolution is built on mainly theories and false evidence. Until it has been proven, there is no right and wrong for evolution and creationism.Β
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