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Published: 2012-05-05 08:33:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 5054; Favourites: 251; Downloads: 22
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"So you want to teach creationism in our schools? Ok. Let us teach evolution in your church, then."Inspired by a bumper sticker I saw on zee interwebz.
I do love poking fun at creationists, I'm sorry
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So is teaching the bible in public school
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Absolute respect for christians who also believe in evolution
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This is great.
It's a shame that even now people think that evolution is a matter of "belief" lol
If you want your kids to learn about your religion so bad, then take them to church. How hard is that?
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In my school, teachers taught both creationism and evolutionism so the students could choose what they believed in the most.
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...wait whatever, I think I understood it wrong.
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Nice thing! Those people just don't know where to stop.
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I am a Christian, and I agree. Religion should not be forced to anyone.
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Teaching about is different than forcing your beliefs on others. Churches can learn the basics about evolution, but they don't have to believe it.
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Creationists, only Christians beside Jehovahs I hate.
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I feel like this quote may be kind of related to this stamp. Forgive me if it isn't 
"I don't have an issue with what you do in the church, but I'm going to be up in your faceΒ if you're going to knock on my science classroom and tell me they've got to teach what you'reΒ teaching in your Sunday school. Because that's when we're going to fight." -Β Neil Degrasse Tyson.
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Creationism: The only socially acceptable form of mental derangement/delusion.
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omg this is the best stamp ive ever fucking seen.
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Only that school is not for studying science specifically the way church is for serving God.
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Ummm
seriously?
If you think there is no evidence that evolution/science is real then where is the evidence for God
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Consistent evidence, Furry, there's no consistent evidence for Evolution.
Also, wth, evidence for science? Why would I need to disprove science as a whole when it cannot disprove God?
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Maybe you should open your eyes more.. Maybe you will see something..
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There's both evidence against Evolution as well as contradictions within. And just what do you think is wrong with my second statement?
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Sorry for the delay! I was originally planning to reread few shorter articles I knew and sum them up. I then found a better, longer and more comprehensive, article, that states things better than I possibly could.Β www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_scientificcaseagainstevolution/
So yeah, Evolution is just as unfitting to science classes as it is for churchs.
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Actually, in school we learn facts. That have been proven.
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Then why are you learning bullshit like evolution and Big Band theories?
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That's big BANG theory. We are learning these because they found evidence of both the big bang theory and evolution. Where do you think all those caveman fossils came from? And those ripples in space and time where the big bang began? Oh, and should you tell me that these prove nothing, please explain to me how YOU know god is real. The bible, you say? How do you know that god wrote the bible? He says so in the bible, you say? If he wrote it in the bible (which we don't know he wrote) how can you trust it? Don't accuse scientists of making up false evidence unless you can prove that YOURS is genuine.
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Evolution theory is flawed, more so, than people wants to admit. There's also scientific evidence to contradict the idea of Earth being billions of years old. And where did the Big Bang came from? Human mind can't even begin to comprehend how ridiculously unlikely the Big Ban theory is, and even if it somehow was true, it is not possible to create matter nor energy within the physical world itself. So if you wish to know how the world was created, you need to think outside the box; there's no other way.
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Give me the evidence of evolution being flawed. Give me evidence of the earth being billions of years old. I've given you my evidence, now give me yours. Besides, however unlikely the big bang was, the story of creation is infinately more unlikly. Can you offer proof to back up YOUR claim?
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For flaws of Evolution theory, I've got this moderately long page.
As for the Young Earth, I recall hearing some things about layers of Earth, that would not be the way they are, had the world been billions of years old. With quick searching, I foundΒ this page. It seems to mention a flood, eh? I wonder if that has anything to do withΒ this ?
If anything, Big Bang is infinitely less likely than creation for the previously mentioned reason; physical world cannot create itself. And if there's a creator beyond our world, what possible physical evidence are you exactly expecting there to be? I mean, besides the obvious, like our existence and the intelligence design literally everywhere?
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I have evidence. You don't. If you find mine flawed, don't expect your theories to be the second option. You see, even if my beliefs aren't true, that doesn't prove yours true.
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Physical phenomenons can be interpretated in so many ways, that some occurenses simply doesn't have what we consider as evidence.
Yes, I think our beliefs are at equal stand; both have evidence for and againts. If Big Bang happened, it was caused by a creator, but that creator isn't necassarily the one I believe in.
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That actually makes sense, well done. You see, since we don't know which creator created it, Christianity should be kept out of schools. If you want your children to be taught that, send them to a church school.
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Then again, not all beliefs/theories are equally valid. It's not just hard to build a society where everything is considered as equal, but completely impossible. Evolution is flawed, so it should be ditched from the schools for good, but Christianity provides valuable views and advices for life; something Evolution Theory would never do, even if it was true.
Christian lessons "The tree is known by its fruit." and "Hate the sin, not the sinner." are something we should all live by. I got some disagreeable opinions regarding a certain matter, but I don't treat people shit because of that, so how bad person can I actually be? Not as bas as they think, that's for certain. The latter one is obvious, at least to me: if we focused our hatred towards actions more than people themselves, we'd more likely try to find a way to solve this problematic behaviour instead of saying "There's no helping this guy" and treat them worse and with less respect than a human being deserves to be treated with.
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Do you have any proof for YOUR theory?
(by the way, can we just teach ethics instead? That's what you are talking about, it seems. How about instead of forcing our religion on everybody we just teach them to be good citizens?)
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That's the problem: ethics all boil down to beliefs.
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So maybe just teach values without shoving the religious part in with them hmmmm?
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You don't understand: whatever is good ethic depends on what we value and what we value depends on our world views. As long as there's different beliefs and world views, we simply cannot form a single correct ethics. So whose going to win?
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How about we NOT shove our religious beliefs on children, hmmmm?
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Merely educating children of the Word is not what I would consider as shoving religious beliefs. I mean, I'dΒ be willing to hear what Koran says, but prohibiting me from eating bacon because of it wouldn't be okay...unless, like, I had willingly participated in some Muslim event, where such a thing could be reasonably considered as rude. But yeah, morning devotions at school and Church visit at the end of each semester is fine.
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And what about the kids of different religions that are forced to listen to these sermons?
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I do believe there are already children who'd have left out from those Church trips for religious reasons. Most, however, don't have such a reason.
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If you want religion taught in schools, send your children to a church school.
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