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Published: 2012-05-14 02:25:38 +0000 UTC; Views: 10036; Favourites: 306; Downloads: 16
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"What if GOD* is the BAD guy?"*Referring to the God of the Bible
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Why is Fluttershy cut in half?!
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They've changed the line spacing. Well, that or my Leafeon used X-Scissor.
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Hang on...is she still cut in half?
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Yes. Iron Tail this time.
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Dangit! 
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Hmm... I like the way you put it XD
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I wanna go to Satan's nightclub
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I wonder what the main highlight is there?
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I have no idea, actually XD. It just sounds so much more fun than God's club X3.
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Is there really a Satan though? Or a god? Just some thoughts...
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Well, I'm pretty certain that there is, what are your thoughts?
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I don't think there is any reason to believe there is a Satan any more than there is any reason to believe that Thor and Zeus exist. 
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Can't make soup with a cook, and to many cooks spoil the broth. That's how I know
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Sorry to be blunt but that's not a very convincing argument. Do you care to explain further?
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How do you dispute that?
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Well, it seems to me to be a bit of nonsense, could you clarify your meaning?
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How so? what exactly is nonsensical about believing in a Creator when there are so many creations? Or if you believe in evolution, something had to have come first, something had to have been put there on purpose.
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I wasn't exactly understanding how you could explain your knowledge the existence of Satan by using the statement you used, that's where the confusion was. But now that I know we're talking about creationism, I'm more than happy to discuss it, haha.Β
Firstly I have a question, how well do you understand the theory of evolution? Like, what would you rate your understanding of it at? Β
Second, it's not that it's nonsensical, it's entirely possible that there may indeed be a creator. I am willing to admit that I don't know, and that it may be impossible for us to know whether or not there is or is not a God. Β My argument is that our existence works without the concept of a God, so why bother trying to stuff one in there? Β
But back to the soup and cook metaphor -- I've got another question. If the cook made the soup, what made the cook?
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Besides the FSM?
The 'cook' if you will was always there. God, being the Creator, always has been, and always will. Therefore, He creates the 'soup', oversees their development, and provides for them.
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So... Everything needs a creator, except the creator. Β Sorry to say, but that falls under the logical fallacy of special pleading. You introduced a rule "Can't make soup with(out, I'm assuming) a cook." Β You can't just move the goalposts to make your argument fit especially after you've established the rule that everything needs a creator. :/Β
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I didn't say the cook needed a creator - I said can't make soup with a cook, so the cook has to come along before the soup is made.
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So special pleading, as I said in my last comment. You can't just change the rules, if soup needs a creator, the creator needs a creator.Β
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But why? Why can the cook just be there? Besides the rules of physiology, all that stuff, what if this cook is beyond those rules?
In fact, He is so beyond those rules, what if He created them?
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It makes no logical sense. If everything needs a creator, then the creator would need a creator, and so on and so on. Β The thing is, the explanation of the existence of our universe doesn't need an ultimate, rule-breaking creator in order to exist. The physics of it all works just fine without needing to complicate things with gods or goddesses.
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Who said everything must be logical, thoguh? Just because we don't understand something, why should it not exist?
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Sure, so I take it that you also believe in leprechauns, unicorns, and fairies right?
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I didn't say I did. But what makes you the expert?
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I'm not claiming to be an expert here. I am simply applying the same logic that you are.
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I always considered this. He does seem evil. In fact I can't help but compare him to Darth Vader. I find your lack of faith disturbing *kills with magic*. He commanded people to kill innocents, he respected the fact that Abraham would rather kill his own son and save his own ass from hell rather than prove blood is thicker than water and sacrifice himself. He destroys two cities *cough aldaraan* and when a woman DARES to pity the suffereing screaming people of the city he turns her to salt. This is not a very nice person. No wonder he wanted to keep adam and eve innocently stupid so he could manipulate them easily.
The fridge horror of the bible is just so intensely bad that if God was a character of a movie today (and not a biblical char) then he WOULD be the villian! Those acts are unspeakable to any sane human being.
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If you read the Bible you would disagree with that. He tries to help us, but in the end its our choice.
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I agree, God is kinda evil. He flooded the entire Earth, killed Job's entire family, gave him the plague and desires to be praised by all people and those who do not praise him will be punished and burned forever in hell.
And what did Satan do? Satan isn't mention over the course of the Bible (as much as I've read it) and he's the bad guy. He punishes bad people, that's what a good person does. YET HE'S THE DEVIL WITH HORNS AND A PITCHFORK.
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Ever taken this to thought
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Not really. If your father hates your guts and wants you to fail at everything you try to do, and your mother loves you unconditionally and will always be there for you, who are you going to paint as "the bad guy"?Β
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How do you know?
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I know things. I'm clairvoyant.Β
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Seeing as god supposedly created evil (and fully admitted such), and Satan punishes 'evil', it seems to me that Satan would be more like the good guy, and god would be more of the bad one.
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What if God wanted everyone to do the right thing by their free will
and thus let Lucifer fall so that there could be wrong choises?
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