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Published: 2015-10-29 23:09:57 +0000 UTC; Views: 28766; Favourites: 331; Downloads: 0
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Finally can post this! Done back in April for Game Workshop's recently released Ta'u supplement "Mont'ka."Here we see Shadowsun getting ambushed by a deadly Callidus assassin. Not 100% sure if it was used in its completed form, but here's the full piece anyway.
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Cool picture! There's a lot of action going on here!
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......I think you did a bad job by drawing the Laser. By folliwing the inpact on the wall, the place her foot touches the same wall and the angle on which Shadowsun fires...the Assasin should be cut in two.
Well it looks like it.
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i love Callidus, but i know she will died...
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The Tau have thicker plot armor than a Wardian Grey Knight...
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Uhhh the imperium has much thicker plot armor by far. There's a reason the ultramarines are called the mary sues of 40k.
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Anything that walks away from a Callidus assassin is pretty heavily shielded, but your point is well taken.
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Thicker, but less solid than a Terminator armor I think.
But this is not the problem, because the blade of Callidus punches the armor without problem, it's just that this Tau is very strong.
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Funny, you'd think a C'Tan Phase Sword would be sufficient to chop her in half, and you'd really think a Neural Shredder would really, REALLY, be enough, but who knows, Shadowsun may just be one tough cookie.
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We speak all the same of a sword that causes an instant death so is it mortal ^^
It is not an assassin's blade for nothing^^
And then, this Tau fights with open head, which could have been fatal to him
So yes, I really think ^^
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+ Plot Armor of Invincibility
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That was referring to the assassin, actually. Hopping around fusion blasts like it ain't no thang.
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Hahahaha yeah, the Callidus crew have been known to pull some egregious nonsense as well...
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I have Mont'ka, and unfortunately, this one wasn't used, but honestly, I wish it was. Seriously, this one is ten times as badass as the one in the book. You did a great job on this one
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Probable reason being that as one of the heroes Shadowsun has plot armor and in a situation like in the picture she's just a millisecond away from sure death.
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Uhhh except was the picture literally meant to ilustrate what happens? Was the assassin really THAT close to her or was that simply a choice on behalf of the artist? Also the imperium has much more absurd plot armor by far.
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More absurd then out of nowhere buff the Tau get despite having worse tech level then Imperium, but being able to outperform Eldar and Necrons?
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They also have superior tech in many ways and this is even stated by the Imperium. And yes MUCH more absurd. have you read any of the lore in 40k? Space marines are the definition of mary sues. They have a winning record against every faction in the 40 universe because GW wants to market them the most. This isn't a secret. Name one thing that another faction has done and space marines have done something even more absurd.
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In what ways? Railguns? Nope. Magnetic coils are used in macrocannons fleet, heavy and stalker bolters(that's why they have MUCH more punch with the same round, but also weight abyssmally more) and even in some basic autoguns(do not confuse with stubbers). And many other kinetic weapons. And unlike railguns who fire needles, Imperial weapons can fire normal ammunition that carries a charge of it's own. Antimatter warhead in case of SM bolter. Remember mininuke in Fallout? That's one bolt round.
And remember how they claim that common soldier can have higher range then SM who already can fire spot on for several kilometers? Ever heard about *distance to horizon*?
Maybe their plasma weapons are better? Also nope. They're far weaker. Oh, you think they are more stable and don't blow up killing the user? Then why does said "explosion" of Imperial plasma guns requires you to roll if your guy(or SoB) was wounded at all, never touches anyone who stands near it and then allows its user to *continue firing from the same "exploded" gun*? Besides this rule no longer exists:\
And that is before we touch more exotic examples of weaponry...
Oh, they have better electronics and AI research? Nope. The fluff outright states that Imperium uses servitors(made from clones, not Imperial citizens. If they would have been using citizens or even criminals then how can *penal* battallions exist? This also answers the question if commisars really kill insubordinate soldiers all the time as someone living serves in said battallions
They have more widespread high quality electronics maybe? Also nope. Tau missiles use markerlight aka simple laser guidance while Imperial hunter killer missiles are choosing targets on their own and navigating even trough corridors. Once again, compare modern ATGM(Tau) against Blaster Launcher of XCOM(cheap equivalent used by IG and installed almost on any vehicle if you wish so). You can also compare Tau and Imperial cybernetics.
Vehicles themselves! Surely Tau have an edge here with awesome hover vehicles and walkers! Right? Except two things. Recoil and armor. Both of which require high stability and put stress on chassis. Who're better in handling those, tracked vehicle or hover car, hmm? That's why Tau railguns are limited to firing small needles while nothing logically stops you from putting meltacharge inside Leman Russ cannon shells. Increased mobility? Where?! Imperial vehicles are all capable of airdropping! They're all delivered to exactly where they should be fighting in the first place just like they Tau equivalents. Imperium has this tech as shown by antigrav chutes common guardsmen use and SM land speeders despite what you might think after reading about "lost" hoverbike tech(with said "only one left in Imperium" hoverbike being somehow rebuilt and replaced every time it's lost in battle). So it's not a matter of tech, it's a matter of practicallity and budget.
What else? Famed antimatter generator they have while Imperium is "nowhere near such magnificent tech"? Remember when I said about antimatter charges in expendable bolter rounds? Or that Imperial Titans and Knights don't suffer from power shortages in the first place while Imperial "bulky" power sources allow to create power armor sized for SoB.
Super stable FTL? Which is ORDERS of magnitude slower then Imperial one. And fluff states that Imperial vessels still have cryochambers on board or that pilgrims flying to Earth have several generations pass before they get there? How much time does it take Tau to travel then? And yet they claim to still have great logistics and reinforcements always arriving on time?
Here are just some examples where Tau make no f//cking logical sense. And it's already a f//cking WALL of text
All in all, Tau ALWAYS have lower tech then Imperium, they're nowhere near SM or AdMech. They can match Stormtroopers or SoBs AT BEST and the only way they can even do that is because they have 1)budget on equipement per soldier similar to Space Marines when taken in % to local economy compared to basically "free" guardsmen; 2)lack of faction separation laws that stop everyone in Imperium using tech of others; 3)caste system that has Fire Warriors who train just as much as Stormtroopers do and dedicates 4/5th of population to supporting them. Basically they're a cheap expy of Battletech Clans.
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Anyway I'm done wasting my time with a space marine fantard. Blocked.
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You honestly just seem very butthurt that the Tau do OKAY against the Imperium. There are plenty of reasons for why that could be:
1. They are not fighting among themselves like many other races are and they are all united in a common goal, unlike the Eldar for example who have many craftworlds pursuing their own goals.
2. They actively recruit allies from other races, including from Imperial worlds they overtake.
3. The Imperium constantly underestimates them and this made clear in the books.
4. It's all made clear that the Imperium has not dedicated enough forces to kill the Tau, as it's made very clear that if their entire Imperium were to assault the Tau Empire, they would crush them. Again, it's made clear that the Tau are too far out of the way to be considered a huge threat to the Imperium.
5. Some of their technology is outclassed by the Tau's and the same goes for strategy. Commander Shadowsun is easily one of the most brilliant military minds in 40k.
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Wow the space marine fantard is strong with this one.
In the actual Tau codex itself there's a quote that even says the Tau technology occasionally surpasses the Imperium's. Checkmate.
Now let's breakdown your idiotic rant:
"In what ways? Railguns? Nope. Magnetic coils are used in macrocannons fleet,"
Oh so you are comparing a fleet based weapon to a ground based weapon that can mounted on a battlesuit or a hammerhead. If that's the case then I could just as eaily say that Tau are more advanced becuase they have Manta mounted heavy railguns and the Imperium has lascannons.
"Antimatter warhead in case of SM bolter. Remember mininuke in Fallout? That's one bolt round. "
AHAHAHAHAH No. Just no. Youa re far over exaggerating the Imperium's weapons and you know it. Hey, by your logic if we are taking the in game rules seriously then that means you are wrong because this is not in game.
"And remember how they claim that common soldier can have higher range then SM who already can fire spot on for several kilometers? Ever heard about *distance to horizon*?"
Once again, no. If that were the case then it would reflective int he rules as you say, but more than that it is explicitly stated that the pulse rifle is more advanced than the bolter in numerous sources. I would also add that this has nothing to do with how advanced either side is so why you would even bring it up is beyond me.
"Oh, you think they are more stable and don't blow up killing the user? Then why does said "explosion" of Imperial plasma guns requires you to roll if your guy(or SoB) was wounded at all, never touches anyone who stands near it and then allows its user to *continue firing from the same "exploded" gun*? Besides this rule no longer exists:\"
First off you are bringing in game rules in to the equation. If that is the case then guess what? Tau weapons are on average far superior to Imperial ones. The basic Fire Warrior has a more powerful gun than the Imperium's elite soldiers. Second, the fact that there's a chance that the model will die simply by rolling a 1 is in itself an argument for why the Tau version is better. Who says the gun will explode and kill everyone? Wtf are you even talking about? The fact is that a basic plasma gun for the Imperium has tot chance to kill its user, while a Tau one does not.
"Oh, they have better electronics and AI research? Nope. The fluff outright states that Imperium uses servitors(made from clones, not Imperial citizens."
Which means... what? The tau make extensive use of AIs and they also utilize clones as well.
"If they would have been using citizens or even criminals then how can *penal* battallions exist? This also answers the question if commisars really kill insubordinate soldiers all the time as someone living serves in said battallions) BECAUSE of the existence of Void Dragon aka Dragon of Mars and any sufficiently advanced AI simply choosing to murder you just like Men of Iron did on grand scale... except every week there comes another mad tech priest who invents a new one and some Imperial machines are almost sentient anyway."
You are very poor at wording thoughts. Most of that was an incoherent mess.
"For example said Land Raider who crushed ork invasion by its own. "
Ah so we are taking random exaggerated acts in the lore then? Are you forgetting that the Tau wiped out an entire hive fleet without losing a single ship?
" However there is a difference between Machine Spirit and AI as the former still uses biological components... and is going mad on you. Claiming that the Tau have smarter AIs is like trying to outrun your own shadow - had they been that smart, they would have rebelled against their own creators(and AIs choice doesn't matter here, Void Dragon isn't going to ask). "
AHAHAHAHHAHA No. that is utter nonsense and you know it. Sentience does not necessarily equal something that is more advanced. A computer today is far more advanced than computers int he 80's and they are not sentient. Furthermore sentience does not also equate to revolution. It's entirely possible that sentient race created by another would NOT try and fight it. Third, it's also possible that they are that they are sentient (and contradicted for and against int he lore) but the Tau are smart enough to have the necessary failsafes in place to prevent it. That whole point was nonsense and you know it.
"Vehicles themselves! Surely Tau have an edge here with awesome hover vehicles and walkers! Right? Except two things. Recoil and armor. Both of which require high stability and put stress on chassis. "
Lol you sound like C.S. Goto saying that Eldar vehicles are inferior to Imperial ones because they are lightly armored. That`s the point you idiot. They sacrifice armor for mobility and being able to bypass terrain. Also where is it stated that recoil is an issue for tau vehicles? This is news to me. I would think that anti gravity propulsion that's strong enough move large vehicles would be able to compensate for recoil, especially when BROADSIDES can do it.
"Who're better in handling those, tracked vehicle or hover car, hmm? "
..... and who's better at jinking, avoid terrain and moving from one location to another? Why do you think the Eldar make use of hover vehicles? You are completely ignoring the whole reason the Tau use hover vehicles to begin with. Nice try with that argument but just came off as an idiot.
"That's why Tau railguns are limited to firing small needles while nothing logically stops you from putting meltacharge inside Leman Russ cannon shells."
And now you are just trying to rationalize holes in the lore. And hey, if that's the case then why doesn't the Imperium do that? While we are at it, why doesn't every army just accelerate their space craft to absurd speeds and use them as kamakazi weapons to destroy high priority targets? Hell if the Imperium is so advanced they could just the machine spirit to control them without risking anyone else.
" Increased mobility? Where?!"
Gee, how about being able to bypass terrain and move faster? Why do you think land speeders exist? By your logic land speeders should just be bikes.
"They're all delivered to exactly where they should be fighting in the first place just like they Tau equivalents."
Except it requires the aircraft to land in order to deploy them whereas Tau vehicles can airdrop from orbit and land wherever the hell they want without having to worry about an aircraft to taking them to each location one at a time.
" Imperium has this tech as shown by antigrav chutes common guardsmen use and SM land speeders despite what you might think after reading about "lost" hoverbike tech(with said "only one left in Imperium" hoverbike being somehow rebuilt and replaced every time it's lost in battle). So it's not a matter of tech, it's a matter of practicallity and budget."
You just proved my point. They have this tech and they use it when it suits them. Guess what? that's what the Tau do. Space marines dont make their rhinos hovercraft because they are SUPPOSE to be armored. The Imperial approach to war is far different than the Tau's, who rely almost entirely on mobility. It's like saying the Eldar have less advanced technology because have hover vehicles.. despite the fact that hoever vehicles suit their approach to war much better because they rely on hit and run tactics. Do you really think the Tau are not capable of making tack based vehicles? They CHOOSE not to because hover vehicles are more suited for how they wage war.
"Famed antimatter generator they have while Imperium is "nowhere near such magnificent tech"?"
You keep putting words in my mouth and it's getting really old. When did I say that? When did I ever even imply that?
"Here are just some examples where Tau make no f//cking logical sense. "
And there are plenty more examples of how the Imperium makes no fucking sense. For love of fuck look at Primaris marines. There entire existence is makes no sense. How about the fact that it's difficult to replace much of the more advanced Imperial tech like certain ships and titans, in yet in every engagement involving them they lose a bunch... and this has been happening for roughly ten thousand years. Space marines are the Mary Sues of 40k. they succeed because they are the poster child of GW. Also many of the shit you said either has nothing to do with Tau 'not making sense' or it is just straight up wrong.
"All in all, Tau ALWAYS have lower tech then Imperium, they're nowhere near SM or AdMech."
Wrong.
Here's a quote from the Tau Empire Codex:
(On Tau technology)
"While admittedly, its performance can match and occasionally exceed that of Imperial manufacture, it displays none of the proper obeisances to the holy spirit of the Machine Gad."
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Well ain't that a bitch... that bums me out immensely...
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Epic fight and great art work dude, congratulations!
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Thanks, looking forward to more!
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Epic, and hope they used it, as I ordered the special edition and just waiting for it to show up.
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Awesome, I hope it comes soon! A lot of great artists involved with the project, was super humbling to work on.
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oh you are just so wrong.
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We'll just have to wait and see!
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What about the obsidian knight and the stormsurges?
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Now THAT would be a fight!
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