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Description [edit] To clear any misunderstanding. The stamp is only focusing in: if Christ coming will be secret or not. Nothing less and nothing more ^^

What is the SECRET rapture?: Christ will return secretly to rapture away His church. The saved (including babies in their mother’s womb) will just suddenly disappear leaving the rest of the people confused and scared. No one will see Him coming. [It touches other subjects, but in the only idea I’m focusing is in the secret disappearance]

What is the Rapture?: The act of meeting Christ in the air. The word doesn't appear in the bible but is used to describe the ‘be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air’ of 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18. (I personally don't call it rapture to avoid confusion, where I live if you say rapture people automatically think in the secret rapture)

They’re two different things. I’m talking about the secret rapture, not the rapture.

YES, When God comes to get the saved, they will be caught in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, 1 Cor. 15:51-52). NO, it won’t be in secret.

I’ll say it again, this stamp is only focusing in the SECRET part of the secret rapture belief.

My point is not to tell you if Christ Coming is divided in one, two, three, or even hundreds of stages. I’m only saying (it doesn’t matter how many times you believe He’ll come) that it won’t be a secret.



They say: He will secretly rapture away the church
The Word of God says:


Jesus coming will be:

---Visible. (Mark 13:26, Luke 21:27, Acts 1:9-11, 1 Timothy 6:14, 1 Peter 5:4)

“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and EVERY EYE shall see HIM, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” ~ Revelation 1:7

“And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”~Matthew 24:30

“For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” Matthew 24:27

If heaven doesn't need a sun or a moon because God's glory is 'shiny' enough (Revelation 21:23), do you think people won't notice the sudden and jaw-dropping change in the illumination?

Only the elect will see him? No! EVERY EYE will see Him!

---Audible (Matthew 24:31, 1 Corinthians 15:52)

“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first” ~1 Thessalonians 4:16

---Physically Real. (Luke 24:36-43,50-51)

“Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”~ Acts 1:11

Lets sum it up! He comes with power and great glory, like the lighting that cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God.

Yes we will be caught in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, 1 Cor. 15:51-52) but: It’ll be bright, it’ll be loud and NO ONE will miss it.

Another hoax is all the predictions concerning Jesus’ second coming. Do not be deceived! Jesus says:

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,[a] but My Father only.” ~ Matthew 24:36

God bless!

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Comments: 73

ZacharyTC [2018-08-18 04:22:42 +0000 UTC]

As somebody that leans towards preterism, I more or less agree.

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Stripy-Artist [2018-05-28 05:00:27 +0000 UTC]

The real rapture is public, as every eye shall see him (Revelation 1:7)

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schizocatgirl264 [2016-11-09 21:55:49 +0000 UTC]

I actually saw the rapture in a dream. In the dream the angels (bright flashing neon lights) descended from heaven and gather up the sinners. The sky opened up like a scroll... That being it popped out of place like a map held down that when you let go Springs up on itself. I believe that this is what the rapture will look like. The people will not be able to stand because they will be having seizures from the bright neon flashing balls of light that were the angels and in my dream it was sudden. People were walking the sidewalks and it descended upon them.

As for the babies thing, seriously Christians stop thinking babies are holy they will NOT be raptured. Woe to those pregnant and nursing in those days. Those babies will DIE

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rhunel [2016-06-08 01:07:58 +0000 UTC]

I can't imagine the feeling of witnessing this rapture which all alive would, and to be left behind. It is said that believers basically hold back the worst from happening in the world, and to know what was coming with every one of them gone, must lead one to struggle with a wave of despair. Yet the occasion should in fact be an awakening, a realization that moments are very short to DO something to make sure one Does get into Heaven.

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Nilopher In reply to rhunel [2016-06-09 01:44:27 +0000 UTC]

It will be something glorious, never seen before. The power of God will be visible to all I wouldn't want to be one of the 'left behind' o.o 

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rhunel In reply to Nilopher [2016-06-15 01:12:40 +0000 UTC]

I can imagine that some extreme hard-duty work-shifts are still available downside even after the rapture, subject to the Lord's will.

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AzabacheSilver [2015-05-30 18:37:25 +0000 UTC]

Also 1 Corinthians 15:51
"Behold, I tell you a mystery.  We shall not all fall asleep, but we will all be changed"
And 1 Corinthians 15:52
"..in an instant, in the blink of an eye, at the last trumpet.  For the trumpet will sound, the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

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Nilopher In reply to AzabacheSilver [2015-06-03 01:35:32 +0000 UTC]

(:

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KingCinnamon123 [2014-04-23 00:53:11 +0000 UTC]

I agree stongly.

and i am saying this as a Seventh Day non-denomanationalist!

GB-

Adam

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Nilopher In reply to KingCinnamon123 [2014-04-24 04:04:59 +0000 UTC]


God bless

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KingCinnamon123 In reply to Nilopher [2014-04-24 23:42:56 +0000 UTC]

thnx for the hug!!!

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SDA-MessengersOracle [2014-03-29 04:07:12 +0000 UTC]

Amen!

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Kegger98 [2014-01-14 01:48:14 +0000 UTC]

The only rapture i know is in bioshock.

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Feesu-san [2013-10-17 16:25:13 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, the rapture will come at anytime, at any minute, at any second. And just as it says in Matthew 24:36 that no one knows the exact time, day and hour, except for God himself.


Thank you for posting this.

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Doctor-Why-Designs [2012-06-06 13:33:57 +0000 UTC]

People will still be confused and afraid after the rapture, won't they? I mean how would you feel if you were working in a field with somebody, and that somebody just disappeared with a loud thunderclap?

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aAshleyB In reply to Doctor-Why-Designs [2015-01-14 02:10:20 +0000 UTC]

If I witnessed that, even as an atheist, I would be scrambling for a Bible and calling out to a God I never knew.  Definitely would terrify me to the point of crawling to the cross!

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IkkoArts In reply to aAshleyB [2015-03-22 20:01:54 +0000 UTC]

Actually, the Bible says that those dead in Christ will rise up first.

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aAshleyB In reply to IkkoArts [2015-03-23 05:08:11 +0000 UTC]

I know that; I didn't realize the statement I made suggested otherwise.  O.o

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Doctor-Why-Designs In reply to aAshleyB [2015-01-14 17:56:33 +0000 UTC]

I personally think that post-rapture people will tie the mass disappearance to different conclusions. Some will draw to the Bible,  some will draw to outrageous theories (i.e. alien abduction, government conspiracy), but most will be drawn into the religious system of the last Anti-Christ and False Prophet (I say last because there has been so many anti-Christs and false prophets over the past 2000 years). 

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aAshleyB In reply to Doctor-Why-Designs [2015-01-14 23:30:01 +0000 UTC]

Most certainly; that's bound to happen given the grand amount of individuals who would still be on the earth.  I was just saying what I would do as one of those people, since I'm sure that - even as an atheist - I would have read the Bible and recalled the event of the taking of the saints.

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Doctor-Why-Designs In reply to aAshleyB [2015-01-15 17:14:30 +0000 UTC]

There's one thing for certain we know. There'll be at least 144,000 sons of the Tribes of Israel and 2 witnesses proclaiming to the world during this time.

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Araitsume [2012-03-26 18:50:31 +0000 UTC]

For the longest while, I've seen examples of "preachers" of this theory who abused the verse, 1 Thessalonians 5:2: "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." Of course, they conveniently leave out the next verse (1 Thassalonians 5:3) "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." because it makes the makes the 7-year tribulation out to be a lie. Also the following verse takes another shot this "secret rapture": 1 Thessalonians 5:4 "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief." This is because as Christians, we should be properly prepared for Jesus' return by keeping in check with the signs of the times we've seen that, prophetically, point towards the closeness of His Second Coming.

Another major problem I've seen in the secret rapture scenario, as reinforced by the Cloud 10 Pictures movies (particularly the ones with Kirk Cameron), is the assumption that those "Left Behind" will even consider becoming Christians when the previous ones vanish. I can already pinpoint dozens of DA'ers right here that would want to see a world devoid of Christianity; this would've been a wish fulfillment. There would be no Christian underground movement, probably manipulated scapegoats for the aspiring united global society to sacrifice so it can hold onto the legal right image, and the whole world will marvel to Satan as he pulls his greatest con-job to date (to have the entire world worship him as though he was god).

This seven year tribulation theory actually originates from a mis-understanding, or deliberate re-writing of the prophecy in the ninth chapter of the book of Daniel. Many take this prophecy out of context to explain a seven year,(Pre-Trib) or three and a half year, (Mid-Trib) time of great tribulation for the Christian believer. However, you will find by studying this prophecy that it does not speak of a time of tribulation at all. In fact, it speaks of a time that all believers both Old and New Testament alike hold very dear to their hearts. It is the prophecy that describes the coming of Jesus as the Messiah in 27AD, as well as what transpired from the very year He stepped into the river Jordan to be baptized by John, to the exact year He died on the cross 3½ years after His baptism. We then see the prophecy coming to the time when the Gospel was finally proclaimed to the Gentile 3½ years after the cross. This of course ends up equaling a grand total of seven years after Jesus steps forward as Messiah in 27A.D. Which by the way is prophecied in Daniel chapter nine, and the EXACT YEAR of Christ's arrival as Messiah is also mentioned in that same chapter. It's amazing to say the least!

As for the group who argues that the tribulation hasn't occurred yet, maybe this will fill you in. "Under the bloody maxims those persecutions were carried on, from the eleventh and twelfth centuries almost to the present day, which stand out on the page of history. After the signal of open martyrdom had been given in the canons of Orleans, there followed the extirpation of the Albigenses, under the form of a crusade, the establishment of the inquisition, the cruel attempts to extinguish the Waldenses, the martyrdoms of the Lollards, the cruel wars to exterminate the Bohemians, the burning of Huss and Jerome, and multitudes of other confessors, before the Reformation; and afterwards, the ferocious cruelties practised in the Netherlands, the martyrdoms of queen Mary's reign, the extinction, by fire and sword, of the reformation in Spain and Italy, by fraud and open persecution in Poland, the massacre of Bartholomew, the persecution of the Huguenots by the League,... and all the cruelties and perjuries connected with the revocation of the edict of Nantz [Nantes]. These are the more open and conspicuous facts which explain the prophecy, besides the slow and secret murders of the holy tribunal of the inquisition." -Rev. T. R. BIRKS, M.A., The Four Prophetic Empires, and the Kingdom of Messiah (1845 ed.) pp. 248, 249

The Dark Ages have been recorded in almost every history book available today, however, you may find that some of these books have altered or even omitted certain historical facts that can be easily researched in most local libraries. Think of it, 50 MILLION! That actually dwarfs Hitler's holocaust by comparison! Some historians today are even estimating the death toll at 150 MILLION! This period was indeed the most extensive attack to date ever on the true Christian church in the history of mankind. But still, some preachers will go so far as to say this day is yet to come. Don't let those preachers of error scare you into thinking it's better to be a sinner than a saint because of a precarious future ahead. Of course all Christians will become extremely un-popular soon, and they will experience a short time of trouble as well as the "...time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it." [Jeremiah 30:7] We have an Almighty and Loving Heavenly Father that will protect and keep us during the trouble Jeremiah speaks of. However, the wicked will be all alone when the "time of Jacob's trouble" is realized. They haven't learned how to trust and rely on the God of all creation for protection in this intense time. Yes there is indeed a time of spiritual as well as physical trouble coming to this planet, however, when the plagues begin to fall, it is entirely directed toward the wicked, NOT the Christian! The Bible states very plainly that the children of God will be spared the seven last plagues of Revelation. The Un-Believer is the one that has the wrath of God poured upon him, and this wrath is poured WITHOUT mercy!

50 Million Christians, maybe even 100 Million! And they were all killed because the apostate church thought they were doing God a favor by their terrorist methods of evangelizing! This brings to mind another prophecy that Jesus makes in the book of John about how the children of God will actually be persecuted by their very own religious leaders. "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service." John 16:2. To think that some religious leaders have actually been blinded so much that they think killing a person rather than preaching the Gospel to them is the method Jesus would have instructed they do. This is evidence of the power and ability of a diabolical enemy we have found ourselves engaging. Nevertheless, don't let that slow you down one bit. For the Word says... "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." [Philippians 4:13]

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aAshleyB In reply to Araitsume [2015-01-14 02:16:12 +0000 UTC]

Great comment and soo full of truth

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JohnJensen [2012-03-26 15:55:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for making this and inserting great scripture in the description. People should read their Bibles carefully!

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SionnaDehr [2012-03-26 13:31:37 +0000 UTC]

*rolls eyes*
The rapture is NOT the second advent of Christ! The rapture is for the church and the church only. The second advent is when Jesus faces the anti-Christ.

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Nilopher In reply to SionnaDehr [2012-03-26 14:36:31 +0000 UTC]

The point of this stamp is not which coming it is. But that no coming of Jesus will be in secret. ^^ (nor the rapture, nor when He faces Satan, none of it will be in secret)

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SionnaDehr In reply to Nilopher [2012-03-26 16:00:20 +0000 UTC]

Oh, the rapture won't be secret, but it won't be a great spectacle. His advent, on the other hand, will be very public and will cast no doubt (not that the rapture isn't obvious in the first place).

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Araitsume In reply to SionnaDehr [2012-04-09 03:25:07 +0000 UTC]

If you have the time, this might interest you: [link] (you might need RealPlayer for it.)

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Viot [2012-03-26 08:40:06 +0000 UTC]

Didn't know that o_______o

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Tuishimi [2012-03-26 03:44:41 +0000 UTC]

It will be obvious!

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Nilopher In reply to Tuishimi [2012-03-26 14:28:34 +0000 UTC]

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mbrsart [2012-03-26 03:22:38 +0000 UTC]

Every eye shall see! That's going to be quite the day.

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Nilopher In reply to mbrsart [2012-03-26 14:28:15 +0000 UTC]

yesh! ^^

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SagwagianHowl [2012-03-26 02:03:34 +0000 UTC]

I hear ya loud and clear
This time he's not coming back in a manger- he's coming on a white horse ready for war and proclamation ^^

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Nilopher In reply to SagwagianHowl [2012-03-26 14:27:54 +0000 UTC]

!!!

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SagwagianHowl In reply to Nilopher [2012-03-26 15:25:43 +0000 UTC]

I know right! I wonder if it's happening any time soon...

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EGClark [2012-03-25 23:34:34 +0000 UTC]

I can understand Christians being persecuted during the tribulation, God never said we wouldn't have to be persecuted. But why would people that have submitted to Christ completely have to endure the Wrath of God during the tribulation?

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Nilopher In reply to EGClark [2012-03-26 14:27:13 +0000 UTC]

The Wrath of God(thumos /orgei) is not synonym of the tribulation(thlipsis).

The wrath of God in the bible refers to the anger and judgment of God against the unrighteous.

Tribulation refers to the suffering/persecution believers will receive at the hands of non-believers.

Is that time when Satan will try everything to make us stumble, he’ll use the unrighteous to persecute us. God will allow some Christians to go to sleep (die) before this tribulation because He knows they won’t be able to endure it (for example old and sick people). But Christians in the tribulation won’t be alone (Matthew 28:20) and also the time of the tribulation will be shortened for our sake (Matthew 24:22). So at the tribulation we won’t be enduring God’s wrath, but His love, because He’ll help us every step of the way.

God bless! ^^

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vadess40 [2012-03-25 17:37:02 +0000 UTC]

Finally, the idiot sensationalists have not claimed some people !!! Tip- instead of believing in that, research covenantal theology!!!

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Nilopher In reply to vadess40 [2012-03-25 18:08:42 +0000 UTC]

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GRIFFINOFNUKES [2012-03-25 17:36:31 +0000 UTC]

whats the rapture? i read the desc but i still dont understand =/

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Nilopher In reply to GRIFFINOFNUKES [2012-03-25 18:00:18 +0000 UTC]

Secret rapture: Christ will return secretly to rapture away His church. They will disappear suddenly leaving the rest of the people confused and scared. No one will see Him coming.

[it implies a bit more since they deal with the timelines of the prophesies, years of tribulation, the 144,000, 7 years of living with Christ and some other things, but I'm just focusing in the 'secret-part'] ^^

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GRIFFINOFNUKES In reply to Nilopher [2012-03-25 18:06:56 +0000 UTC]

OK, so its God taking his people to heaven while the rest gotta suffer the end of Earth?

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Nilopher In reply to GRIFFINOFNUKES [2012-03-25 18:18:12 +0000 UTC]

No,the secrete rapture is more than that. It’s God taking His people secretly to heaven, while 144,000 literal Jews remain on earth to try to convert the people left behind, after 7 years God and His people return and those –that having a second change— didn’t repent will be destroyed and then the millennial period starts.

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GRIFFINOFNUKES In reply to Nilopher [2012-03-25 18:27:36 +0000 UTC]

oh ok then

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vadess40 In reply to GRIFFINOFNUKES [2012-03-25 17:42:34 +0000 UTC]

The rapture is a theology that teaches before the tribulation that happens just before Jesus comes back, Jesus will return secretly and rapture up the church and then the world will go through the tribulation and God will fulfill His promises to ethnic Israel during that time. This is called the pretribulation rapture.

I don't have the time here but this is so full of wholes, one of them being described by our lovely stamp creator that the Bible NO WHERE mentions two returns of Christ. The Bible mentions only one and it is very public and everyone will see it. At that time the rapture will happen for all to see.

Don't believe in the rapture or all the things that come with it. Instead look up covenant theology.

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GRIFFINOFNUKES In reply to vadess40 [2012-03-25 17:56:16 +0000 UTC]

OK thx for describing it

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vadess40 In reply to GRIFFINOFNUKES [2012-03-25 18:21:48 +0000 UTC]

Np

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PoppyCorn99 [2012-03-25 15:45:11 +0000 UTC]

I agree. This seems to be one of the things people misunderstand the most. There are no verses in the bible supporting the secret rapture.

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Nilopher In reply to PoppyCorn99 [2012-03-25 15:57:51 +0000 UTC]

^^ yup

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