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noverint In reply to Celectis [2008-11-15 07:20:44 +0000 UTC]

This kind of stuff is really, really glaringly visible in print (and it's obvious on the monitor), so I know I'll be kicking myself for it eventually. |: But then again, I could just be neurotic.

You're free to comment however you like! There must be a long list of Things That Are Wrong.

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Celectis In reply to noverint [2008-11-15 17:00:40 +0000 UTC]

Lol! Well, it could be because most of my stuff are scribbles anyway that things that look like single lines = uber clean for me. XD That aside, I've noticed that you tend to draw the heads really big. I'm not sure if this is a stylistic choice or not, but your faces are big compared to the back of his skull and I think it'd look a bit more balanced if you put more into his cranium. Also the heads seemed a bit unbalanced on your delicate looking shoulders. I think if you somehow made them a bit smaller and the shoulders more sturdy looking...maybe broader it wouldn't look so top heavy?

Actually looking through your gallery again, I think it's the lower jaw on your people that makes it seem very unbalanced. ([link] ) The top part of his head look great and balanced but since you have the lips so big (and sexy) very low on his face, it almost seems like his jaw is sagging with the weight?

[I hope it's not too confusing. I thought I'd leave both parts to see if there was a part you'd agree with. ]

I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear and if it was your choice to draw it that way. Orz;; I still loveeee your stuff but how you draw it is so difference that it comes off as a little awkward for me. 8D;;;; It could just be me~ *sweat sweat*

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noverint In reply to Celectis [2008-11-16 02:24:17 +0000 UTC]

That's true, though I think it has more to do with torso/arm length (too short) and neck length (too long) than head size. The cropping in that drawing doesn't help. But the proportions I'm using for the face and shoulders are fairly standard, as far as I can tell, taking into account angle of the head/body etc. (Everything in scraps is an unqualified disaster.) I'll keep this in mind for future attempts.

But I'm visually biased, so. Can you draw with red lines over the picture or something? D:

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Celectis In reply to noverint [2008-12-06 04:25:03 +0000 UTC]

ahhh sorry it took so long. XD But I think the problem is that you count the circle proportions only equal to the face? I see what you're doing there but the skull is actually round so even when you're facing the person head on, you'll see a lot of their skull's mass in the back. Not always noticeable because of the hair. I think if you moved the second containing red line you had on the face there to right behind the ear, you would have gotten a more believable shoulder size? Sorry, I thought about red lining it myself but it just seemed like I was trying to force my own visual proportions onto you. u__u;;;

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noverint In reply to Celectis [2008-12-06 05:35:48 +0000 UTC]

No problem; final exams are coming up and I haven't been around much either. =_=

I was curious, so I looked up photos of people and real skulls. (Ironically, after I've drawn the picture, so it's not like this validates me or anything. XD) The 3/4 view photos of people that I've found online and offline don't show much of the back of the head (it seems like even a few degrees off from a profile obscures a lot, which surprised me). I was looking mostly through stacks of Vogue issues for offline photos; I could scan them, but they're probably findable through Google Images or whatever and I don't want to hotlink online images. (The face isn't as wide as the length of the skull, it seems.)

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