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You'll have to bear with me. The description is long.I didn't do anything technical/art-wise that's any different from normal, so I'll skip that bit. I'll get to who she is in a minute.
The important thing here is the physical makeup of the character herself.
The whole argument about what's "feminine" and what's not is enough to split my skull sometimes. (I am not here to argue about it or have others define it for me in the comments, by the way ... so please don't. I've heard it all by now.) What I have noticed is that what's feminine or female seems to be defined by breasts and the existence thereof. Even when it comes to aliens. If she's going to be attractive then she *must* have boobs, big ones of course. It doesn't matter if it makes no sense. (I will expand this to include AI and Robotic characters as well.) In real life, breasts have one purpose: To produce milk for offspring. If the species isn't mammalian ... then there really isn't a physical need for them. Not really. For aesthetics, perhaps ... but even that is debatable.
So the challenge I set for myself was to create a female character/species that is visually similar to humans, noticeably female, and could be interpreted as "feminine" without relying on breasts to do the job for me. This species (Terrian) aren't mammals. They lay eggs, have gills, and have feathers instead of hair. I fell into that booby trap (pun intended, and I'm not sorry at all), and kept trying to come up with an excuse to give the females breasts. And then it occurred to me that there was no logical reason to include them except to cater to the idea that a female cannot be clearly defined as female without boobs, which is, in and of itself, patently stupid. Is a woman who has to have a breast reduction less of a woman? No. Does a woman who has had a double mastectomy become un-female after her surgery and struggle with cancer? Hell no! Are those amazing drag queens who were born without them in the first place, less woman than I am? Obviously not! Two deposits of tissue, fat, and flesh don't make a woman. So why limit my character design that way?
In this black and white internet society, I know this will be interpreted is "if you put boobs on a character, you're bad/wrong!" That's not it at all. Do what you like with them. They're your characters, concepts, and species. There is no right or wrong way to make a female character, only some that people do or do not entirely agree with or find appealing/comfortable. *That* is the statement I want to make.
Whether or not I've been successful is, of course, debatable as well. But so far as I'm concerned, I like the final idea. Still female, still feminine. No breasts. Just some spots. Challenge complete.
*** Character Information You Don't Have to Read ***
It's a damned shame you can't see her arm-spines here. They're really nice ... Ha! It's a family trait.
This is Yenada "Nada" Merentah. One of the many terrians I'm dusting off and reworking.
Her back story is in a bit of a cloud. I have the general shape of things, but I needed to see her face before I could really get things in focus. I'll have more info next time. All I can give you is other character context right now.
Other terrians and how they relate to her:
Friends/teammates Asha and Janus:
Brother Meren:
Husband Anton:
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Comments: 33
True-Form [2017-11-06 05:02:55 +0000 UTC]
I love your messageΒ NuisanceBearEull. Mazophilia (breast fetish) is dominant in a lot cultures around the world. Especially amongst western societies. It's so bad, that women who have micromastia (small breasts) or amastia (flat chests) are discriminated against and looked down upon. I hope more people realize this, and stop the madness. Great drawing by the way π.
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Chromatic-Essence [2016-07-22 15:23:40 +0000 UTC]
I really do love your concept on this! And I agree, the whole debate about Femininity is sort of ridiculous (People have their opinnions and neither side is right cuz their...opinions) But your art and again, concept, is fabulous!
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Asi-Hauge [2016-06-01 00:36:30 +0000 UTC]
female sex doesn't equal femininity .... virile and feminine are just two groups of randomized factors created by society that change based on time and culture , Β nature and biology has nothing to do with our ideas of how a ''gender'' should look in order to be accepted .
By they way , awesome artworkΒ
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InsomniacInsanity3 [2014-09-26 02:33:15 +0000 UTC]
I agree with what your saying, although on a hatred of censorship basis, i do get kinda pissed off when alien species are conceptually presented fully naked with a lack of genitalia. i feel like if your concept race fornicates for pleasure, or breeds (forgive me i forgot the scientific term for this type of breeding) by inserting a phallus into a vagina, then it should shown, and if either genitalia is retractable like that of a horse, dog, or other such animal, then atleast show it as retracted, there are still flaps and folds to be visible, this isnt for pornographic reasons, i just hate the idea of showing it naked, but blatantly restraining from showing its gentitalia for some sort of censorship or prude reason. It doesnt make sense to me. Even if it had concealed genitalia like serpents and lizards it would atleast be nice to have some sort of side note saying so. But on the sense of "what makes a woman appear so" i totally agree with you.
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NuBearEull In reply to InsomniacInsanity3 [2014-09-26 13:01:18 +0000 UTC]
I totally get what you're saying. Anatomy is anatomy, every species has it, and there is no point in denying it.Β
I intend the species pictures I do to be more of a "spotters guide" rather than scientific in nature. You know, if you were walking through a free city, how would you know which is which, kind of a thing.
But the all-out omission of genitalia, in a nude anatomical presentation, does bother me as well. If the species is mammalian, then by all means, include breasts and show them. They are a part of that species biological function. I will admit to being a bit of a prude and I don't tend to do naked representations (also because I love designing clothes for them!) for that reason. If you're going to do it, then really do it. The one time I ever did, it was a species with internal genitalia, but the abdominal slit that runs from rib cage to pelvis was shown.Β
So I agree. Not a fan of censorship for the sake of "decency". If you want to conceal, then put clothes on them. If there aren't clothes, then it's stupid to just omit anything.
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InsomniacInsanity3 In reply to NuBearEull [2019-11-16 01:54:50 +0000 UTC]
I also dont think I ever even bothered to read the description, so... giving that a go now.
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InsomniacInsanity3 In reply to NuBearEull [2019-11-16 01:53:31 +0000 UTC]
I think I used to be an asshole, for assholes sake when I was orignally running this page, I feel upset with my own comment and just wanted to touch back and say that this is a beautiful piece, I love colors specifically, and the shape of the eyes, I dont know where i was coming from in my original comment, but whatever, I enjoy your gallery, and I think with the rise of trans content, even if you arent specifivally doing images like this for trans appreciation, It still kinda helps? Idk... But its cool.Β
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NuBearEull In reply to InsomniacInsanity3 [2019-11-18 23:24:32 +0000 UTC]
Hey!
I really appreciate this!
Thanks very much!
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SacredSentience [2013-05-27 01:31:29 +0000 UTC]
Interesting, I like your concept here, as I found it offered a different perspective to think about for a story of mine. It is also good to see someone with the courage to put up such a design and express such a view. I wish that it would be seen more in media, as that would change the 'rules' given to writers and artists. The only issue I see, is selling such designs without losing the attention of the wider audience. Sure, you can do so, if you do your art a side job or a hobby. The only issue comes when you need to sell it, and make a profit. I can only hope that I can show the same level of respect as you do with this work.
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Eucalyptron [2013-05-05 02:45:52 +0000 UTC]
I really like your view on the issue of what is "feminine". However to me the jawline does look somewhat masculine. If I cover up the body and just see the head, I don't see it as entirely feminine. The lips definitely look feminine to me, but the jawline is kind of "in the middle" on the masculine/feminine scale. That's just how I saw it, though; maybe if I look again tomorrow it'll be different. All in all, excellent work!
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TheFoxyEccentric274 [2013-04-24 14:54:56 +0000 UTC]
I very much admire your view on what makes a woman a woman and I completely agree. It also suggests that the creature designers from "Avatar" have made a most illogical mistake with the Na'vi. According to information about the film that I've read, the Na'vi are not placental mammals. So, by your logic, the females of the species would not have breasts. Not to mention, the entire species would also not have belly-buttons, either. But perhaps I am forgetting the ever-present Hollywood Board of Human Sexual Appeal, who would say, "Hey, let's make them sexy by giving them boobs and hardly any clothes." Anyway, I love your alien designs and look forward to seeing more.
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KuriosiT-kat [2013-03-30 21:31:38 +0000 UTC]
I'm very happy with the fact that breasts have not become the definition of femininity >w< and I say kudos to you for finding a way (be it softening the facial features, slimming the arms, etc.) I do love your alien designs!
Ignore the following paragraph if you want it's more of a ramble + getting into silly nerdy bio debates/discussion:
On a different sort of side note (because I'm just always into biology and nerdy like that) I was wondering a bit about how muscle compartmentation would evolve into the human resemblance of Pecs and Abs in this species. (not that it doesn't work because it does with gill placement and whatnot but hey I like the whole evolution thing and somehow vestigial traits tickle my fancy more than well purposeful and used traits)
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Lady-Tempest [2013-03-26 19:46:20 +0000 UTC]
I think you did a great job on this, she is definitely feminine without mammalian breasts. I appreciate that you put time and thought into this, it always bothers me on some level when people put breasts on non-mammals just to show they are female. Some days it seems like lazy design or a lack of knowledge in anatomy. This is not to say that I don't like some of the designs made that way, people can design whatever they like and they can have amazing results; I just like to have biological or environmental reasons for specific kinds of anatomy where possible.
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lilittu [2013-03-21 03:29:20 +0000 UTC]
interesting and I see your point, once that I had in mind a long time ago and I`m glad to find here
I had plenty of friends who really, don`t have breasts or any curves in their bodies, yet, they girlier than me XD
they are not less women because their body shapes are not what are supossed to be "feminine"
I like the fact that withouth boobs you made such a feminine creature
and you explained it so well that i don`t have any questions
fantastic designe and great character
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Cnids [2013-03-20 16:15:08 +0000 UTC]
Ugh ugh... eeuurrrrgggg... I want to comment so badly on the "femininity" thing that it's actually uncomfortable. I'll bite my tongue because you've "heard it all" but it's not without considerable difficulty.
As a character design on its own, I like it a lot. I like that you've decided to "go breastless" for an alien species that doesn't require them because I really appreciate realism and critical thought in character design. The colour palette is pleasing, and the hair is really fun. My only critique would be that her left arm (our right) looks like the foreshortening might be a little bit off. Those are great looking hands though!
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theOvercoat [2013-03-20 13:22:59 +0000 UTC]
Fantastic drawing and definitely a lovely artist's comment ^^ Cheered me up. Thinking about female/male visual attributes is something that makes my head hurt too.
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windyautumnmoon [2013-03-20 09:48:55 +0000 UTC]
Such a fantastic idea Nu. She looks gorgeous and so comfortable with her self, truly beautiful work.
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kuroitenshi13 [2013-03-20 05:32:04 +0000 UTC]
Totally love this idea! And I've done a few things similar, but points so very true and make me happy to see them! So beautiful as well~ I could tell by the face alone that is what you were going for, though I had to read to make sure I had understood properly. XD
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lastsorceress [2013-03-20 04:55:25 +0000 UTC]
She's feminine AND beautiful. The way she holds herself speaks highly of her femininity. I've always found it a bit repetitive myself that even alien chicks seem to be almost... cookie cutter in their large-breasted aspects. Not knocking them, but why? Certainly, not every species in the universe would be even remotely like ours! I really love how you managed to convey her movement, and her femininity despite that human ideal.
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Tigertwins [2013-03-19 23:42:13 +0000 UTC]
Oh she is just so lovely <3 Your use of body language and her softer facial features really does leave no room for argument as to what she's supposed to be <3 I must say I ADORE her hands here, you really just are making he sit here and oggle the crap out of your hands! So much amazing in one picture in terms of her anatomy and proportions (sorry i just am really like <3)
Loving her vibrant colors here, as well as the very delicate seeming line work. Great work!
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Myrcury-Art [2013-03-19 23:00:52 +0000 UTC]
Well said! I love it! This is a gorgeous piece of art - the things you do with the flow of lines in your anatomy work and your use of color are both just stunning.
I created a species recently - Lijahns - where the females don't have breasts. They're quasi-reptilian creatures, so I just felt like they weren't in need of breasts/had no use for them. Yet when it came time for me to draw the mother of one of my boys, I still put an upper body covering on her, for clothing. :/ I haven't struck that happy medium yet, I guess - being without breasts but still having the covering as though she did. It's a conundrum in my mind and after reading and viewing your work here, I definitely feel like taking a crack at drawing more Lijahn females and experimenting a bit more.
Anyway long comment is long - But fabulous and thought-provoking work is fabulous and thought-provoking.
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CiiMoore [2013-03-19 22:48:20 +0000 UTC]
I like this against the grain thought process. And...I want those pants and boots LOL!
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NuBearEull In reply to CiiMoore [2013-04-01 21:14:42 +0000 UTC]
Thanks very much! I want to have one of their armorers in my basement.
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CiiMoore In reply to NuBearEull [2013-04-02 08:22:45 +0000 UTC]
Wait...you don't?? O.o?!
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NuBearEull In reply to RaraAvisInTerra [2013-04-01 21:13:29 +0000 UTC]
Thanks very much!
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Narufan90 [2013-03-19 22:41:25 +0000 UTC]
Let me be the first to say Thank you, Thank you for going "against the grain" and challenging society norms
Also, She is very beautiful!
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NuBearEull In reply to Narufan90 [2013-04-01 21:15:13 +0000 UTC]
You are very welcome! I've been wanting to do art about it for a long time.
Thanks very much!
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Narufan90 In reply to NuBearEull [2013-04-01 22:46:16 +0000 UTC]
Your very welcome I love your work!
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deppfan85 [2013-03-19 22:40:25 +0000 UTC]
Personally, I love this! She seems so free, so uninhibited. Maybe I'm just placing my own thoughts on her, though. I think it would be awesome to not have to deal with breasts. No need to have to find comfortable bras that not only fit, but actually do what you want/need them to. No stupid comparisons of size and shape and inadequacy. To be able to just strip down to only a pair of comfy shorts on a hot summer day and not be stared at, or feel exposed and "wrong."
Ad she is absolutely gorgeous.
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