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Yet, only in the mind's eye....
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I love Galaxy class and I love this artwork - I just wish it was a little bigger! Ship model and nebula in the background are looking great!
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Sir? The thingie fell out of Uhura's ear again....
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Picard has some possibilities of course, but it sounds far more of a darker view of things than Next Gen.
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My thoughts exactly!
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Only either Picard and crew would have had to live through another wearisome historical re-enactment (say, something from WWII) or would have been socially advanced to heed the buoy's warning in the first place. The plot of the original episode depended on what was essentially a decision on Kirk's part that seemed dumb to me even as a kid in the 1970s watching it in syndication (I couldn't see its original airing because of its late airtime) let alone now; so Starfleet should have been wise enough not to order him to virtually go trespassing in the space of an alien culture with un known capabilities. We'd know better than to do that now in the 21st century, e;t alone in the 23rd.
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Kirk was a big risk taker, though I always figured he was under direct orders from Starfleet to make first contact with the Melkotians, for reasons never delineated.
Pickard on the other had would have been far less inclined to do so, and probably wouldn't unless he was ordered to do so.
There seem to me several reasons Starfleet would feel the need to give those kind of orders.
"Risk is our business," Kirk.
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Yes, Kirk was under such orders. I just never considered those orders to make much diplomatic sense; especially in view of the Prime Directive. Kirk could have used his judgment to ignore them as unlawful but did not. Picard as you said likely would have; orders or no.
Pretty much agree with all your points anyway.
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I watched the beginning of the episode to see what Kirk said the orders were. Kirk said that the orders were clear and they were to contract the Melkotians at all cost. I wonder if that was the actual wording of the orders or Kirk's interpretation of the orders because it doesn't make sense for Starfleet to give order to barge into the space of unknown alien that could view it as invasion and start war with the Federation.
This is one of reasons why I don't think Kirk is a good captain. He could have just stopped right there and and inform the Starfleet that the Melkotians told them that they don't want them (Enterprise) to enter their space.
If some other forces tried to stop the Enterprise then "pushing on at all cost" might apply, but if the Melkotians themselves say no and stay out then Kirk should stop and let the Federation/Starfleet figure it out because continuing on is pretty much throwing the Prime Directive aside and invading.
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I'm still of the mind that there were other factors involved in contacting at all cost... the most likely being due to Klingon, Romulan or Tholian actions in the sector. Given the ability of Melkotians to make people experience whatever they choose is certainly enough of a reason to make sure its not used by a real enemy.
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Better worded than I probably could have managed but precisely the same line of thought I've had all along.
I always have had similar thinking about Kirk's mission in Taste of Armeggedon, where the intrusion of the Enterprise literally changes the course of an interplanetary war for no good reason whatsoever. By standards established later, the planet visited should have been considered ineligible for Federation contact let alone membership simply because it was engaged in a war with another planet in its own system and evidently lacked warp drive.
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Taste of Armeggedon is other example of why Kirk is not a good captain. Kirk had reckless attitude of "I HAVE MY ORDERS so I'm going to ignore your warnings to stay out/ stay away and shove my way in."
Had he failed it would have cost him his ship and lives of 400+ crew (including his own live) over nothing.
I might be remembering it wrong, but wasn't it said that other Federation starship came there years before Kirk and was lost the same way Kirk nearly lost his ship?
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Ships were said to have had gone missing yes; but i'm unsure if they were ever described specifically as Starfleet ships. Could have been civilian merchant ships similar to those run by Cyrano Jones or Henry (Harcourt Fenton) Mudd. Or even non-Federation ships. They never said.
As for Kirk's actions, remember that in that case he was being ordered about by an ambassador (Fox) on board his ship, which severely limited his options to bail without repercussions. It was the ambassador who was the a--hole; Kirk was actually wary of the situation.
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Oh right. I forgot about Ambassador Fox being on the ship.
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Yeah, he was a real pushy bastard who kept pressuring Kirk into the bad decisions; which Kirk actively resisted. So if anything for once kirk was being the voice of reason when it came to this.
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I wondered about that mission as well. Seems like the Federation wouldn't get involved with a war between two factions of a non-member races. Starfleet obviously wasn't told the truth when contacted regarding membership in the Federation, so Kirk and company had to deal with a bad situation in the seemly best way possible. Arm chair criticism after the fact is like doing so with some sports game, where everyone has time to come up with why nots and what ifs.
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Maybe they were still on a learning curve in Kirk's time and had wisened up some more by Picard's time.
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That's for sure... but being duped by lies is one of those evils that come unawares.
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Not following you with that last statement, but okay.
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Lies, as it some alien race lying about themselves to try to get into the Federation.
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Hmmm... can't recall any episodes where *that* happened, unless you're thinking about that TNG one with the terrorist who could (somehow) resist being beamed off the ship, and Picard equated national security with oppression. More often the aliens seem quite frank and declare they just want to be left alone - which in the case they should be. Recall no TOS (or Enterprise) episodes about aliens with impure motives wanting to join, though I admit i haven't seen the Enterprise episodes multiple times like i have virtually all the other ones prior to Discovery (and I've watched none of them at all in the last 9 or 10 years).
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