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A N A R C H O - P R I D EIf you're part of the LGBTQ community and tired of being treated like shit, grab a baseball bat and take a swing at your local fascist or fundamentalist.
Armed queers bash the fuck back!
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I like this poster so much (although I'm not sure if people will agree with using the word "queer" since it's considered a slur by some but that's a different thing).
If there's something I know from years of interacting with cishet people and fake "allies" is that the majority of people who tell LGBTIA+ people to not use violence back do not give two shits about the struggles that group has to deal with. Some of the comments you got are an example of what I mean.
In short, "LGBTIA+ should stop fighting hate with hate" has always been a codeword for "let yourself burn, I don' fucking care".
If they really cared they'd help LGBTIA+ people by fighting cissexism and heterosexism and would cut that patronizing bullshit of telling us to not fight back.
Fighting back is a call for self-defense against centuries of oppression.
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And what if you're part of the "LGBTQ" community and a fascist?
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Then you can fuck off cause YOU'RE A FUCKING FASCIST.
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And what does that mean? I'd like to know exactly how that makes me any worse than an Anarchist?
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I don't discuss shit with nazis.
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But I'm not a Nazi. If you're talking about Neo-Nazi's.
I'm not a racial supremacist, I don't hate Jews, I'm not interested in interventionism in war, or starting any, I'm not in favor of religion becoming a part of the state, being as I'm an atheist. So...what's wrong with me again? You're not explaining why being a Fascist makes me worse than an Anarchist.
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Nationalism, authoritarianism, militarism, corporatism, etc.
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hello, civic-nationalist libertarian socialist here who's willing to revive a dead thread. what do?
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What's wrong with nationalism?
Authoritarianism, you mean that horrible system of a hierarchical system actually doing work instead of hoping someone will volunteer to do it? I believe in freedom of speech, of expression, of the press. Those freedoms aren't trumped just because a government has the authority to carry out official policy. Also, this system is also not completely undemocratic, as in several Fascist nations, even National Socialist Germany, there existed referendums before the second world war. Such as whether or not to occupy the Rhineland, or whether or not to assimilate Austria. I, personally, think an American system should retain more democracy, even leaving open a multi-party system, until we've truly proven our worth.
I'm not interested in starting wars or worrying with them unless there's a good reason for it. The sheer majority of people who are Fascists (actual Fascists, not Neo-Nazi's who think, "Keep capitalism, throw out the niggers, wetbacks n' the queers!") these days are also non-interventionists who think that shit like the Iraq war have done nothing but destabilize a region already known for spontaneous conflict.
Corporatism, you mean Tripartism where national labor unions are organized together, major corporations are nationalized, and small business and medium corporations are left to their own business, with the state as mediator between remaining businesses and the labor force? Because that doesn't exactly sound like a bad thing does it? I mean the alternatives at this point are lassez-faire economics, set to make a comeback if certain members of the right take and hold power. Or some dimestore variant of liberal socialism, throw some money at a problem, hope it fixes itself while massive corporations basically decide policy of the state.
And why be opposed to a system, generally, in which the state provides recreational activities, guarantees things like parental leave for child-birth, medical care, and pensions for the elderly under a blanket of state-socialist policies? A spontaneous Marxist-Leninist revolution is more likely to happen in this century than any widespread left-anarchist ideology will, and as we all know, the ML movements are basically rotting at this point, globally. There is not going to be a revolution, in which the state is abolished without some other nation taking full advantage and pile-driving that stateless entity into the dirt.
Reform is the key in the battle for change, working within the system to bring about something better.
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Well, sonny, grab your bat and go take up queer bashing with ISIS. I'm sure they'll love to give you a fair chance to swing your bat at them. Oh wait, you're a Swede? Never mind, they'll be coming to you.
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You do realize Syrian refugees are running AWAY from Da'esh, right?
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You do realize Syrian refugees are utterly infiltrated by Da'esh, right?
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Oh yeeeaaahhh... That would explain why none of the da'esh attackers in Paris were Syruan refugees.
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I'm sure the victims of their death squads in the refugee camps are very comforted by that.
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I try not to get into internet fights since they lead to no where but I agree with and . Violence will solve nothing.
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Well, I try not to get into internet fights since they lead to no where but you can get fucked
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I must say, at least you Anarchists aren't fucking pussies, like half of my "Comrades" (The "We can achieve Communism and Socialism through reform, and there is no need for revolution and violence" people). You get violence, then you have every right to give violence.
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Anyone who uses violence to get their message out IS a pussy, as far as I am concerned.
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Like all those people who are engaging in a physical and psychological assault on the LGBT community. If they get attacked, they should fight back.
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That's the thing though, no one is being violently attacked.
No one should be violently attacked.
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Members of the LGBT Community are attacked, and quite regularly, especially LGBT Youth in Schools. This source reports 90% of LGBT Youth have experienced bullying, and of those 50% have received physical violence. Non-Violence is all well and good, but when the other side is actively attacking then it's pointless and idiotic.
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Who conducted these surveys? When were they conducted? Where were they conducted?
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Says in the source. The surveys range, I believe those were 2010. All across the US if I am not mistaken.
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The only thing the source says is "in 2005".
It doesn't say where or who conducted these surveys.
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The sources are written at the bottom of the page, and there is a link midway through the article to more information.
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Hopefully they bash back with well though out words and laws that give them the right to marry and make it illegal for them to be discriminated against, and not with fists and bats.
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I always find it so fucking amazing that these edgy anarchists claim to love democracy and say everyone should have it to voice their opinion. And then they NEVER fucking use it.
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Of course they never use it! They don't care! All they want to is be edgy, rebellious and smash things. It makes them feel cool and they think it gives them purpose but in reality, they are all complete and utter social rejects and failures. 
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Seems to be the case. Well let's see if he replies to me.
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It is weird considering in theory Anarchy would pretty much be a Direct Democracy. Seems like they only care about smashing shit and firebombing buildings and hurting police. On my political scale i'm treading along social Anarchy but i'm still very much a Libertarian Socialist My Political Compass- redamerican1945.deviantart.com…
I also love how when I said I was a bit liberal he said i was a cancer, even though I just believe in Liberalism views of the rights of man.
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I couldn't have said that better myself.
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Yeah i'm having quite the argument with this guy in the thread bellow. Also thanks. 
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Seriously, that was a great comment.
And as far as that argument goes, I would say that you're winning.
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Marriage rights can't stop a fascist's knife. A bat can.
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Yes, because using violence and terrorism is such a good way to get the message out.
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Appearently anti-fascist defensive action is now terrorism. Who would've thought?
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Violently attacking people because of their political views is terrorism, yes.
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Because fascists never do that, right?
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The fascist that Antifia are fighting aren't like the fascists of the 40's, today's Fascists for the most part are just idiots that blame why everything bad in their lives is caused by minorities. And not to mention get drunk and listen to shitty Heavy metal.
And to me If a Neo Nazi or a fascist is protesting and only talking and not causing violence, he has every right to say it. Free speech protects every kind of speech no matter how ugly or offensive it is.
It's funny how Antifia is supposedly anti Fascist yet they beat up people for their political beliefs, how much more fascist can you be. Me and prince don't always get along but we both will agree that any attack on speech is an attack on free speech.
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"The fascist that Antifia are fighting aren't like the fascists of the 40's, today's Fascists for the most part are just idiots that blame why everything bad in their lives is caused by minorities. And not to mention get drunk and listen to shitty Heavy metal."
Fascists are pretty much the biggest terror group in the western world. Countless people are killed by fascists anually. Not to mention the fact that fascism is being more and more normalised, which means we might be looking at another 1930:s to 1940:s situation soon.
"And to me If a Neo Nazi or a fascist is protesting and only talking and not causing violence, he has every right to say it. Free speech protects every kind of speech no matter how ugly or offensive it is."
Well, I disagree but it doesn't matter much.
"It's funny how Antifia is supposedly anti Fascist yet they beat up people for their political beliefs, how much more fascist can you be. Me and prince don't always get along but we both will agree that any attack on speech is an attack on free speech."
Beating people with scummy opinions up isn't fascism. Fascism is an advocacy for militarism, totalitarianism, an extreme nationalism, and corporatism. That is fascism. You might call beating people up for their beliefs authoritarian but it certainly isn't fascist. And why the fuck should we care about fascists anyway? Who cares if their freedom of speech is violated? Their fucking fascists!
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As a person who on the political scale is in between social libertarianism and social anarchy I believe that the right to freedom of speech will not be infringed upon. Freedom of speech protects the speech you also don't like, that's why it's called FREE. To me it is much worse if someone beat up a neo nazi for saying ridiculous aragonite shit than the arrogant shit the neo nazi is saying. Fight horrible opinions with better opinions, make these people shut up though debates, violence only makes the situation worse for both sides.
And when you said "Who cares if their freedom of speech is violated? Their fucking Fascists." Again freedom of speech is for everyone no matter how ugly or horrible the opinion, they have a horrible opinion but hey as long as their not beating people up or killing people let them talk. But just think about it, beating up someone for voicing their political opinion, how much more jackbooted can you possible be. Even if there a fascist heres an idea, rebuttal them in a conversation and try to change their minds or just don't listen to them.
I'd much rather have a bunch of Fascists protest in my town waving flags and holing sings than a bunch of antiafia members start riots and throwing rocks and beating up people.
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"Fight horrible opinions with better opinions, make these people shut up though debates, violence only makes the situation worse for both sides."
Oh my god, that's the most liberal thing I've heard since someone said Sweden's socialist.
"Again freedom of speech is for everyone no matter how ugly or horrible the opinion, they have a horrible opinion but hey as long as their not beating people up or killing people let them talk"
The thing is that if fascists talk and build their movement up, they will use extreme amounts of violence. The bigger they get the more powerful they get, and the more powerful they get the lesser of a chance we have of stopping them. And again, I don't care if "freedom for speech is for everyone"; they're fucking scum.
"Even if there a fascist heres an idea, rebuttal them in a conversation and try to change their minds or just don't listen to them."
Yeah, good fucking luck. You can't reason with a fascist; fascists don't do reason. And no, we can't just ignore them because when we do, they get more powerful.
"I'd much rather have a bunch of Fascists protest in my town waving flags and holing sings than a bunch of antiafia members start riots and throwing rocks and beating up people."
Why? Fascists building their social movement uninterupted leads to consequences that are WAY wore than a few people getting beat up. Fucking trust me.
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Yes I very much am a liberal, I just love how that word seems to be toxic. I believe that everyone has the right to speak an opinion as long as they are not committing violence. Are there Fascist groups that commit violence of course look at the Golden Dawn in Greece, but should that justify more violence, no. Violence is meant as a last resort not something you immediately go to. If we denied their right to free speech even if speech is hateful than you can't call your society free.
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Well, sorry for valuing the lives and mental health of oppressed people (POC, LBTQ-people, etc) above some bonehead's right to scream and bully people into death.
Seriously though, liberalism is cancer. Liberalism = socdem = capitalism "with a human face".
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It seems like your wording this in a way to make it seem I don't care about the LGBTQ community, couldn't be farther from the truth considering i'm Bi-sexual (-_-).
I actually had a guy come on my profile when I posted a picture of myself and when I mentioned I was Bi he said "untrue. it is perversion developed in the early years of life. most often associated with bad parenting. you are bisexual? wtf, you want to fuck men? disgusting. get over such silliness." Now at this point I'm mad to say the least, I have an option to block him, but I don't. The reason, he's his own worst enemy, the shit he said dug his grave, such as all homophobes and Fascists today, no one takes them seriously they just keep showing us how idiotically they are through their words.
Also I valve ever ones opinions, some I very much don't agree and others I do, what i've said is that no matter what the speech, no matter how disgusting or ignorant it may be, a person has a right to say it as long as they are not causing violence. I don't support violence in any for wether it be a Fascist beating up a gay man or gay man beating the shit out of a fascist.
Also here the definition of Liberalism, a political or social philosophy advocating the freedom of the individual, parliamentary system of government, nonviolent modification of political,social, or economic institutions to assure unrestricted development in all spheres of human endeavor, and governmental guarantees of individual rights and civil liberties.
But seeing as you don't get the idea of Free speech i'm not surprised that you call liberalism a cancer.
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I didn't mean that you didn't care about the LGBTQ community. I meant that you care LESS about it than you care about the right of boneheads to bully people into suicide.
That's the wikipedia definition of liberalism. Not the actual one. Wiki sucks at political philosophy. Liberalism is an ideology that advocates individual freedom from state power, free markets, parlimentary "democracy", etc. It's fucking cancer.
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I care about the right of the individual, I don't favor a single group, everyone has a right to individuality and speech, any denying of any speech is an attack on that persons rights. Whether it be a government saying if you express you're homosexuality your going to jail, or a government jailing a Fascist because he's voicing his political opinion.
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Again, you're still basically saying what I said you're saying.
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