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A N A R C H O - P R I D EIf you're part of the LGBTQ community and tired of being treated like shit, grab a baseball bat and take a swing at your local fascist or fundamentalist.
Armed queers bash the fuck back!
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If you mean radical reform, maybe but not all change.
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Well, the labour movement wouldn't have achieved anything if it weren't for their violent tactics. Just saying.
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Exactly. The common ground here is "humanity," and "being or not being part of the LGBT community" has no bearing on that truth. This is the reason I don't support "LGBT pride," or any other "minority pride" - as understandable as it is considering the oppression by the current heteronormative society, it effectively is a means to put one or more "category" of humans above others, and more often than not creates a perpetual see-saw of oppression. All of this serves to eliminate that common ground we all stand on, both intentionally and not. Add to that the fact that many humans believe that humans are "superior" to all other species (one reason being the brainpower I mentioned in another comment here) and how much of humanity is not seeing what that arrogance is doing to not just the world around us, but also to ourselves, it's not exactly hard to see just how dire the state of things truly is.
The root cause for all of this lies in "humanity," but there is almost no human alive who is willing or able to take responsibility, admit to their mistakes, or even stop to consider that truth, so of course everything's gone to hell and isn't really improving. With this "poster" of his, as well as his comments to me and others here, Omicron has only reinforced what I've said. It's why I told him to pull his head out of his ass - his act of hiding behind laughable arguments like "you don't know me" and calling me out for "being presumptuous" is doing nothing for him because it's totally obvious (at least to me, anyway) what his intentions are and what drives him.
He's just making this whole thing worse with his bullshit, really.
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"it effectively is a means to put one or more "category" of humans above others"
No, it doesn't. That's a severe misunderstanding of the idea.
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Is it, now? So, then, perhaps you can explain why there are in fact a number of LGBT individuals who don't support "LGBT pride," yet at the same time do not lash out at oppression as you're so fervently advocating here? Oh, and just so you know, in many of those instances, it's not because they have "resigned" to the oppression.
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I agree, if hes encouraging this, I have the right to self defense.
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its called the 2nd Amendment.
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Yep. This fool hates the U.S. Contusion
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I'll support you in that regard, too. c:
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Hey OmicronPhi, 2nd Amendment rights b*tch!
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What proper communist cares about the American constitution anyway?
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Yes, but you also claim to be a socialist, so wouldn't you prefer the writing of a new constitution more in line with socialist principles?
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The constitution is better to be its self
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Haha!! For me, it's not a matter of "rights" or anything of the sort, but simply "doing as I must to survive." It's a very instinctual perspective, and as you know, all animals will defense themselves in some way or another if they're threatened. However, we humans, with our advanced mental and intellectual capacity, bear the most responsibility of all species for exercising self-control in acting in self-defense.
Of course, that's not what most humans are doing now, is it?
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...The line between "defense" and "aggression" has become blurred in too many people's eyes, so they can't even tell the difference anymore. The same goes for "unconditional kindness" and "sucking up for brownie points," among many others. Humanity has a serious issue, yet everyone is looking in the wrong place for that issue, and so everyone looks in the wrong place for solutions.
No wonder the positive change everyone keeps calling for isn't coming.
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...I'm not going to stand by and watch everything go to hell. There are plenty of things I love about this imperfect world and everything that shares this world with me - one of the main things being "imperfection" itself - and I believe that if I understand this much about why things are so bad, then I bear some responsibility for getting off my ass and doing something to bring a positive change. I've never been naive enough to believe that I can do this myself, because I really can't; this kind of change requires the efforts of everyone who is human, regardless of perspectives, religious faiths (or lack thereof), political stances, or any other subjective values, and it's not something that will happen quickly by any means.
All of this for no other reason than because I care.
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OK, as much as I support the LGBT+ Community, I have a problem with this.
Yes it's unfair LGBT+ people have to suffer. Yes, it's idiotic how people use their faith to "justify" discrimination against LGBT+ people. Yes, LGBT+ people deserve anti-discriminatory laws and the right to marry. And yes, I deal with this; even though I may not be LGBT myself, but my wife is Bisexual and both my kids are lesbians. I believe my family deserves better, only a hypocrite would support his family and yet no one else whom his family stands with. But, I don't like this because it's promoting violence. Look at what violence has done historically: Malcolm X, Tienanmen Square, Burning of the Reichstag, Crimea, Storming of the Bastille, 1381 Peasant Revolt... What do all these have in common? They are all acts of violence that ended with more acts of violence. Look at what's happening now in Baltimore, does violence really seem like the answer? I'm from central Europe, so I may not have the best point of view on the event but still, it's definitely not doing any good. Crimea is closer to home to me, and the violence in the region will bring political issues and unnecessary loss of life for decades to come, that I (and many) can say for sure.
If a gay man is hit, he has the right to hit back. If a lesbian woman is shamed, she has the right to rage in return. That is self-defence, a small-scale conflict when the oppressor makes the first move. That is OK in my book. A gay man bursting into his neighbour's house and hitting them with a baseball bat, or a lesbian woman taking to the streets to call-out heterosexual people, is not self-defence, it is an attack. When the oppressed is attacked then they defend themselves, it is Self-Defence. When the oppressed take to courts for their rights and spread awareness on the streets peacefully, it is Protest. When the oppressed take to the streets and riot, it is Revolt. When the oppressed attack their government and oppressors with weaponry, it is Rebellion. Please, any LGBT+ people reading this, if any, don't resort to violence. It solves nothing, and it'll only persuade more people to stand against you. You've suffered too long, it's not worth it.
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I agree with you as a pansexual female with a bisexual boyfriend and a bi mother 
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"Look at what's happening now in Baltimore, does violence really seem like the answer?"
Short answer: yes, absolutely. No change has ever been achieved through purely non-violent means.
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Haha...how amusing. I'd like to see you bring a positive change with "violence," despite how all the violence going on the world today hasn't brought an overall positive change and instead has just made everything worse. Since you had the audacity to judge me in shallow ignorance, I think I'll be up-front about something: I'm peace-loving, but not a "pacifist," and before you even think about trying to call me out for hypocrisy, let me make the distinction between "fighting to protect oneself and others" and the rioting in Baltimore, which falls into "violence driven by animosity, hatred, bitterness, disdain, discontent, and the other negative aspects of the human psyche by which so much of humanity is blinded now." If you try to deny your own blindness, which has made itself apparent both in this picture of yours and in your comment responses, I'm probably going to laugh at you. xD
Oh, and bear in mind that I didn't say any of this to "be all talk" or anything stupid like that: if you bring any sort of harm to anyone I care about with your hideous mentality, I will see that you learn the hard way to never make that mistake again, and in case you're unable to make the distinction between a "threat" and a "warning," you've been warned.
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Please stop mischaracterising the Baltimore uprising.
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"Mischaracterizing?" Haha, do you really think you can claim to know any more than I do about it? By all means, do tell~
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The Baltimore uprising is a reaction to years and years of racism and police brutality; you may critisise their tactics but don't tell me it's not understandable or justified.
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I never said anything about it "not being understandable or justified," so all you're doing here is making an attempt to put words in my mouth that I've never had any intention of voicing myself. Nice try, haha. Not only that, but in bringing up "years and years of racism and police brutality," you're also telling me things I'm already aware of and have been for a long time, now...and by the way, don't try to act like you know why people in Baltimore are rioting when in truth you don't know shit.
There is a LOT more to the issue than simply "years of racism and police brutality." Also, let's not forget the African-Americans who serve as police officers here - tell me, how the hell do you think they feel about all of this, hmm?
"you may critisise their tactics but don't tell me it's not understandable or justified."
...Seriously, if everything was all fine and dandy here, would there be any reason for the Baltimore riots in the first place, Captain Obvious? I don't agree with the tactics, but I'd have to have my head clear up my ass to not see they're unhappy.
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Agreed 100%. What so much of humanity doesn't see is that perpetuating negativity with more negativity will not bring the positive change everyone keeps calling for. Rioting and violence, sedition, "whistle-blowing," and even peaceful protesting...these are all negative responses to negative circumstances and have only served to perpetuate the overall negative state of humanity today. Yes, there's a lot of shit going on in the world, but the hard truth is, all of this "bashing" and "fighting" is just making everything worse. Again, for me, the worst part is how almost nobody sees that - a testament to the blindness I've observed in so much of humanity.
I myself am asexual, and I'm well-aware of the "acephobia" in society today - or at least, American society, since that's where I've lived my life thus far. I've adopted a nomadic lifestyle that revolves around benevolence - making a positive impact. I've already had to defend myself against shallow, ignorant garbage from others (though I thankfully haven't had to deal with much of it, even so). Something I've noticed is people's unwillingness or inability to defend themselves, instead relying on "superior figures" to defend them, and though I do understand that not everyone is strong enough to stand on their own two feet and walk their own paths reliant on their own strength the way I do (which I don't judge others for, mind you), well...unfortunately, that's not helping the overall issue, either. Many of those "superiors" have turned a blind eye or given the cold shoulder toward those who struggle with LGBT-oriented oppression, and in some cases have outright exploited their horrible circumstances for their own gain. Yeah, I think we have a problem, but contrary to what many people believe, it's not "society," "politics," "religion," or any other aspect of human civilization.
The root cause, which nobody seems to be willing to take responsibility for, is the origin of all those things: humanity.
For the world to see the positive change for which so much of humanity's been calling, all humans must stop perpetuating "negativity" and instead take a positive approach, thereby breaking the progressive negative cycle. It's the very definition of a "long shot," but there's no other way, and it will never happen until all humans can stop and consider that "root cause" for all the human-caused world problems we face today. That being said, "bashing the fuck back" will not bring this positive change. Stand up for yourselves, but at the same time be the positive change you wish to see. That's what I'm going to do, after all.
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Please don't put this cynical misanthropic shit on any of my pictures ever again.
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I think you've severely misinterpreted my words, and that doesn't speak well of you at all - do you want me to explain how your mentality factors into everything I've just said? I will tell you right here and now that I'm anything but "cynical" and "misanthropic," and also that there are many people who can vouch for that. In fact, I'm pretty much the total opposite of a "cynical misanthrope," though you're welcome to believe what you wish, of course, even if it's completely wrong~ Oh, and let me remind you that this picture of yours is a public submission, and so you're opened the door for others to give their input, whether or not you like or agree with it. If you like, I can also explain how people hiding behind their "rights" - which is effectively what you're doing in your response - has contributed to the negative state of humanity today. I won't speak for others, but I'm just giving you the hard truth here - things I've seen countless times over, and things people aren't noticing despite the effects being all around them and practically in their faces much of the time. If you can't handle that, then your solution is simple - keep your "pictures" and your hypocrisy off the public Internet. Most people won't be as "nice" about it as I've been, just so you're aware.
Oh, and one final thing: I'd advise you to think very carefully before responding...in fact, I'd recommend not responding at all. Of course, that's your call to make, not mine, so if you like the idea of making yourself look like a complete moron in the midst of my self-defense, well...be my guest. It's happened a number of times before, and in public, no less.
No matter what you or anyone else may believe, it's out of compassion that I've given you this fair warning. I for one don't care to contribute to all the negativity that's so pervasive in humanity now - the same negativity your response carries.
Choose your battles wisely, fellow human. c:
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Well said. Just had to say it.
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Violent uprising against all oppression is necessary and justified.
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Violence begets violence.
I've taken a look at your profile and I see you are an Anarcho-Communist. I guess that would explain your view pretty clearly, but as an anarchist myself I don't think that violence is ever the best solution. It should always be a final resort, and I repeat, final. It's never good to instigate the violence, no matter how much you feel it's justified.
Their are many ways to fight oppression, but one of the basic tenets of traditional anarchism is to allow others to hold their beliefs, even if you do not hold the same beliefs.
What I'm getting at is, violence is not a problem solver, it's not a solution. It only begets more violence. Self defense can be justified, however attacking first is an act of aggression and will only be met with more violence.
The only questions I want to ask you is, do you want our community to be known for violence and danger? Or for peace and love?
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"Violence begets violence."
No, it doesn't. If you're hitting me with a stick and I hit you and break the stick to stop you, that doesn't begat violence.
"It should always be a final resort, and I repeat, final. It's never good to instigate the violence, no matter how much you feel it's justified."
Well, we wouldn't be. Are you familiar with structural violence?
Etc.
"The only questions I want to ask you is, do you want our community to be known for violence and danger? Or for peace and love?"
I don't care as long as we get rid of the bourgeoisie before they get rid of all life on this fucking planet.
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Someone needs to chill the fuck out, haha. Also, loving your apathy. //sarcasm Apathy is still another part of the reason humanity's in such a negative state overall today, and it's everywhere.
"I don't care as long as we get rid of the bourgeoisie before they get rid of all life on this fucking planet."
Here's a challenge for you: if the state of things pisses you off so much, how about you instead get off your miserable ass and do something to make a positive impact, as opposed to sitting here and whining meaninglessly at your opposition?
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Quick question: what the fuck do you know about what I spend my life doing? You have no idea what I do except the fact that I make posters. Stop being so fucking presumptious and let me get back to building a movement for revolutionary change. The old road is rapidly changing; so get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand 'cause the times they are a-changing.
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"Quick question: what the fuck do you know about what I spend my life doing?"
Quick answer: when the fuck did I ever insinuate anything about "what you spend your life doing?" I've only referred to what you're doing here. All you've done is reinforce what I've said, so if you really want to pursue your asinine argument and continue making yourself look like a moron who's fond of selective reading, be my guest.
"You have no idea what I do except the fact that I make posters."
Shallow logic, all around. Get the hell off the Internet with your idiocy, pull your head out of your goddamn ass, and look around you - maybe then you'll see where I'm coming from.
"Stop being so fucking presumptious and let me get back to building a movement for revolutionary change."
Again, pull you head out of your ass, and perhaps you'll see where I've made my connections. Also, "building a movement for a revolutionary change?" Don't make me laugh - you obviously haven't seen how mindsets like yours have perpetuated the negative state of humanity. Have fun living your pipe dream.
"The old road is rapidly changing; so get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand 'cause the times they are a-changing."
I will tell you this once and only once, so you'd do well you burn my words into your mind: I walk my own path to change both for myself and for everyone around me, and I do so solely of my own strength, personal values, and individuality. It's a hell of a lot tougher than what you're claiming to do as someone who considers himself part of a group called "anarchists," and should give you some idea of what you're up against since you're so intent on fighting me here. In case you don't know what you're up against, though, have some brutal honesty: if I have to take you down in order to protect those who are important to me as per my values, that's exactly what will happen. You'd better believe I'm dead fucking serious, "Mr. Tough-Guy Anarchist," and don't think for a second that you're safe because of "long distance" - if you're stupid enough to push your luck after I've given you this fair warning, I will go out of my way to see that you regret your actions.
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"Quick answer: when the fuck did I ever insinuate anything about "what you spend your life doing?" I've only referred to what you're doing here. All you've done is reinforce what I've said, so if you really want to pursue your asinine argument and continue making yourself look like a moron who's fond of selective reading, be my guest."
Do you seriously not fucking see how "get off your miserable ass and do something to make a positive impact, as opposed to sitting here and whining meaninglessly at your opposition" can be interpreted as claim that I don't do anything worthwhile or engage in anything other than slacktivism.
"I will tell you this once and only once, so you'd do well you burn my words into your mind: I walk my own path to change both for myself and for everyone around me, and I do so solely of my own strength, personal values, and individuality. It's a hell of a lot tougher than what you're claiming to do as someone who considers himself part of a group called "anarchists," and should give you some idea of what you're up against since you're so intent on fighting me here. In case you don't know what you're up against, though, have some brutal honesty: if I have to take you down in order to protect those who are important to me as permy values, that's exactly what will happen. You'd better believe I'm dead fucking serious, "Mr. Tough-Guy Anarchist," and don't think for a second that you're safe because of "long distance" - if you're stupid enough to push your luck after I've given you this fair warning, I will go out of my way to see that you regret your actions."
I know this might technically count as master suppression techniques, but that is adorable. Yes please, take me down; fucking do it. I'm waiting. This threat is as empty as it gets. "I'll fuckin find you and hurt you because we had a disagreement on DeviantArt". Yeah. Right.
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"Do you seriously not fucking see how "get off your miserable ass and do something to make a positive impact, as opposed to sitting here and whining meaninglessly at your opposition" can be interpreted as claim that I don't do anything worthwhile or engage in anything other than slacktivism."
I'm sorry, but you the only one here who's interpreted my words as such. The sad thing is that I've gone out of my way to explain all of this to you, yet you still cling so dearly to your fallacious argument despite that it's actually pretty fucking obvious to me what your intentions are and what drives you to pursue your pipe dream. But since I'm here, I might as well go out on a limb and tell you something about me: the reason why you cannot hide behind your shallow logic is because how easily and quickly I can pinpoint the emotional states and intentions of humans through their words (and the tone in their words), actions, perspectives, interpersonal interactions...essentially, people's intentions and their driving emotions always make themselves apparent through their being in some way or another, and I can pinpoint them just by being around them; this applies both to in-person interaction, long-distance interaction via nothing but text (i.e. here), and everything in between. Your poster, your comments to people here who openly oppose what you're advocating, and your amusing responses to everything I've said to you here...all of this has made your intentions clear to me, as well as your emotional drive. No matter how hard you try to hide behind arguments like "you don't know me," the truth is that you cannot hide your intentions or emotions from me - neither online nor in person - and the same goes for anyone and everyone else who's human. You can call as much bullshit on what I've said as you want, but you'll only be reinforcing what I've said about your shallowness. Seriously, do yourself and everyone else here a favor and stop fucking trying, dude - you will not win this argument.
"I know this might technically count as master suppression techniques, but that is adorable. Yes please, take me down; fucking do it. I'm waiting. This threat is as empty as it gets. "I'll fuckin find you and hurt you because we had a disagreement on DeviantArt". Yeah. Right."
So you can't make the distinction between a "warning" and a "threat," just as I foresaw. How laughably sad...and as before, I went out of my way to explain it, and you still got the wrong idea. Haha...seriously, I'm laughing for real at your short-sighted nonsense. Go ahead and keep spouting hot air out of your ass, dumbshit, because it'll only serve to give me (and perhaps many others here) more to laugh at you about. xD
Oh, and you know what the funny irony of this whole argument is? My initial comment here was a response to someone else's comment - you made the choice to jump in while misconstruing my words as "cynical" and "misanthropic;" you are the one who's saying cynical and misanthropic shit like "we need to get rid of the bourgeoisie before they kill this fucking planet" (and so are guilty of hypocrisy); you are the one who intends to "start a revolutionary movement" that focuses on radical ideas and means that are detrimental to not just humans, but the world in general (and don't try to fucking hide behind the "you don't know me argument" after all the shit you've openly advocated here). You are the one who opened the door to opposition by posting your radical advocacy here, yet turned around and hid behind your laughably shallow arguments when I gave my own feedback. You are a complete waste of time, and I've had quite enough of your shit, so I'm going to let you wallow in your nonsense from here on. Bear in mind, however, that my warning to you - which you misconstrued as a "threat" - still stands. Just so you're aware, taking a person's life is something I would prefer not to do, but I will tell you now that if you endanger the lives of people I hold dear with your radical approach to change, you will be fighting for your own - I'll see to that.
Don't fucking push your luck, you idiot; otherwise, you'll learn the hard way how serious my warning is. You sitting here and taunting me from behind a computer screen all the way from Sweden (or wherever your odious hole of dwelling happens to be) really only fuels my own drive to make a positive impact.
EDIT: You know, since you're such a pitiable individual (from my perspective, at least), I think I'll throw you a little freebie.
"Just so you're aware, taking a person's life is something I would prefer not to do, but I will tell you now that if you endanger the lives of people I hold dear with your radical approach to change, you will be fighting for your own - I'll see to that."
I've given you plenty of warning - far more than you deserve, really. In the quotes, though, is the one threat I've truly made in this entire conversation. I almost never make threats because by nature I'm not an aggressive or controlling sort by any means...so for me to make a threat like that should tell you how serious I am about this. Contrary to your taunting, I do have every intention of carrying out this threat if you give me a reason, and because I'm the sort who likes to think outside the box, you can be certain that I will find a way to carry it out. The one thing I can say now is that it won't be out of "vengeance," but with the intent to protect the lives of people who are unhappy with how things are now, but wish to find a more positive solution than what you're advocating.
Of course, you're welcome to think whatever you want. In any case, though, way to provide me a great opportunity to make use of my dumpster diving approach to negativity, haha. I promise I'll make good use of your garbage. c:
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I've been going back and forth on how to give a good response here and I think that you've said it better than I ever could have.
Violence in this world saddens me... By nature I am actually cynical and misanthropic and generally an all round shitty person with little to no faith in humanity on a good day... but your outlook gives me some hope that there may be people out there that can still remain positive even when I can't.
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And you know, I have a number of friends who are the same way, honestly. Despite the opposing perspectives, I can have some awesome philosophical discussions and get along with all of them just fine. A major part of my approach to all the negativity in the world is what I call the "dumpster diving" - turning negative "garbage" into positive "treasure" for myself. In this way, I make negativity a part of my strength, which I will be sharing with the world and all things that live here with me, be they "human" or not. Society is something of a landfill of negativity from my perspective; obviously, this means I'll have no end to the opportunities to utilize the "dumpster diving."
People may or may not agree with what I'm doing, and that's honestly as it should be - my latest journal gives a good explanation of what I do with the strength that comes from being able to turn negativity into positivity, both for myself and everyone around me. It's the same strength backing everything I've said to OmicronPhi here, in fact. Who knows? Maybe some of it will reach you eventually, too~ Of course, I'd never want you or anyone else to do what I'm doing - I believe it's best for everyone to follow their own paths to a better tomorrow!
Each of us walks a different path, yet in the end we all tread the same ground: this planet we call "Earth." c:
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