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Published: 2015-04-28 21:55:53 +0000 UTC; Views: 1888; Favourites: 31; Downloads: 2
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A N A R C H O - P R I D EIf you're part of the LGBTQ community and tired of being treated like shit, grab a baseball bat and take a swing at your local fascist or fundamentalist.
Armed queers bash the fuck back!
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Threatening people with violence because you disagree with their views does not show that you care about LGBT people.
It just shows that you're an ignorant, violent, uncivilized brute.
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Seems like I can't get through his thick skull so i'm just gonna end it here with him.
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I would do the same.
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It is terrorism when fascists do it, and terrorism when anarchists do it.
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Not my point. The point is that because fascists do it, we have to be ready to do it ourselves. Wouldn't you agree that it's better to make sure you're in no risk of getting attacked than hving to defend yourself?
And inb4 "stop advocating murder!!!11" that's not what I'm doing.
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Fascists don't do it, though.
More often than not it is people like you who use violence.
Fascists just walk down the street carrying their flags and placards.
Then we have people like you who run in, disrupt them, and throw stones.
Not to mention that you try to take away their right to free speech.
Attacking people for holding different political views than you do is not "self-defence".
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Fascists do. Fascists do it the overwhelming amount of the times. In sweden Fascists have murdered 14 people since 1996 or something while antifa hav mudered none. Go away.
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Incorrect.
As I said, go to the rallies, all fascists do is march down the street with signs and placards.
That is, until you people show up and start throwing stones.
If the fascists reacts to this, and they kill you, I blame only you.
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Firstly, still not true. And most of the violence committed by nazis occurs outside of protest type scenarios, but even then I can give you a fairly recent example of a peaceful anti-racist demonstration in Kärrtorp, Sweden, that was attacked by armed nazis. Secondly, fuck you.
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Yes, I have read about that.
Very rare case, that.
This video is about violent hooligans like you.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1MYMV…
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Oh my lord, it's not a rare case..
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It very much seems to be.
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There are people all the time who get beaten up, stabbed, etc by fascists.
Just to make this conversation easier, could you state your gender, race, and political ideolgy? You don't have to but it'd make things easier to explain.
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I love how you never replied after I answered that question.
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I was enjoying the quiet.
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So, in other words, you have nothing to counter it.
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In other words, I couldn't care less about this fucking discussion.
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Again, so you have no retort.
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Again, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU. Like seriously, I don't wanna take this discussion. I'm not interested.
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Because you can't, gotcha.
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Yet we never see it nearly as much as we do from your ilk.
Gender : Male
Race/ethnicity : French-Syrian
Political Ideology : Royalism
I don't see what this has to do with the conversation, though.
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comradesch.deviantart.com/jour… Found one hell of a lolcow and decided to have an entertaining "debate".
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White Pride World Wide :^)
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whitey pridey worldey widey
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ya go ahead and do that, you will only make things worse and add fuel to the fire....
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Got anything else to say?
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Nothing of substance at least it would seem.
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Don't waste your time with him; he's full of radical nonsense.
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I'm part of the LGBTQ community, but I wouldn't do this, nor think it's an idea with common sense behind it.
I wouldn't do this unless someone was trying to beat me to a pulp also. Only needing to defend yourself or your life or other's lives would justify that really.
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To prevent hate crimes is self-defense.
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Well, ok but you kind of promote attacking people who haven't attacked. That isn't self defence.
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What is better? Allowing a fascist to stab you and try to defend yourself then, or not allowing them to grow enough in numbers and strength to stab you in the first place? As much as I'd like to just keep walking through life, I don't feel safe when I know that there are armed fucking nazi scum in the same area as me. Especially not as a bisexual involved with radical politics.
And don't tell me that we should try to convince them; fascists don't do reasonable dialogue.
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Erm...there are like no fascists where I live. I'm in Australia, we have pretty tame politics that tend to land in the centre on the political spectrum or at least close to it.
So I'm unsure that's ever going to happen to me, and that's not exactly what you said in your description or your message.
You encouraged violence against fundies, whilst I highly disagree with fundamentalists I wouldn't hit someone for just a strong opposing opinion, and provided little context to your artist comments, just encouraging people to hit.
If there were dedicated facists around where I lived I would probably try to judge first how much of a threat to me and others they are, then I would probably take out a variety of steps leading to violent and dirty tactics as the last thing I would try.
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Well, I'm sorry but not everyone is privileged enough to live in fascist-free areas. And I highly doubt there are no fascists where you live as they can be found almost everywhere if you actually look for them.
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Ok...I didn't mean anything by it. You just asked me a question...so I answered honestly.
I am aware there are people living with probably more facists than I do. And I sympathise with them, must be a pretty alienating group to deal with.
There's not even a neo-Nazi party in Australia, let along a fascist party, in our minor parties. I just don't think they are highly accepted over here. We are kind of a young nation too, so that influences it as well.
We have a national party, who are big on nationalism and rural living but I don't think I could call them fascists.
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Most nationalist parties are fascists.
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Exactly. There's a pretty distinct difference between "self-defense" and the "wanton violence" Omicron is encouraging here.
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Yeah...plus doing shit like this is not going to give the positive image of the LGBT+ community which we NEED in order to actually get people to listen to our message. I mean who got their message across better and got through to more people in the area of black civil rights, early Malcolm X or Martin Luther King? Martin Luther King is the answer because he showed respect for everyone and remained with integrity throughout his life. I am all for civil rights and humanism, but I am not for senseless violence and destruction in order to reach those means.
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Martin Luther King was not against violent riots. And the civil rights movement would've never gotten anywhere if it weren't for the more violent factions. Just like we'd still be working 14 hour shifts in fucking mines if it weren't for violent workers.
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Yes, I'm not advocating for complete pacifism, I know that that is against human nature, however I'm still not going to appraise people for giving into violent urges on a whim. Acting on them all the time is primal and modern humanity as we know it would crumble if we always acted on our instinct for violence, since it's anti-social behaviour and we evolved to be social beings by nature.
Well all rights movements probably have their underbellies, but I simply enjoyed King's approach to the topic. And I wasn't referring to violence there, I was just saying I enjoyed his approach.
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I'm just saying that violence is necessary to achieve change.
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