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Description Somebody suggested this... Who am I to deny such a request.

Hopefully Hasbro doesn't get offended and send me a cease-and-desist.
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Kitsune-Queen [2012-04-06 23:49:26 +0000 UTC]

Did you make little glasses for it? You totally should. My fav pony :3

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Kitsune-Queen [2012-04-07 05:41:08 +0000 UTC]

Yup, she's got glasses... I still need to paint them though.

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GlassPaladin [2012-04-06 22:55:10 +0000 UTC]

Is the music note on Hasbro's pony backwards or am I just having a dyslexic moment? @_@

Anyway, yours looks WAY more amazing! I hope theirs is suffering from prototype syndrome and gets better.

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to GlassPaladin [2012-04-07 05:44:43 +0000 UTC]

LOL! It's about time someone noticed this discrepancy! Hasbro's Scratch actually has properly facing notes on her-- Vinyl Scratch, in the show, had her music notes backwards!!! So I made my Scratch with her left flank show accurate, and her right flank a mirror image with them properly drawn.

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Kayla96 In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 21:43:05 +0000 UTC]

You srsly kicked Hasbro's but there.. e_e Yeah I see what you did there..
Hopefully Hasbro noticed that their fans are better at making ponies!

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Russian-Royedal In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 21:20:16 +0000 UTC]

Yours is beautiful! Do you design and sell your own ponies?

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Russian-Royedal [2012-04-07 05:45:57 +0000 UTC]

I make resin casts of my mane and tail sculpts-- and sell those and finished customized ponies. More info in on my front page.

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Russian-Royedal In reply to OtakuSquirrel [2012-04-07 06:57:56 +0000 UTC]

Thanks a bunch! You really are talented.

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FungalZombieX [2012-04-06 20:36:43 +0000 UTC]

Yours kicks ass.
But going by the brushable hair thing hasbro didn't do too bad.

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BlindAlchemist In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 19:57:14 +0000 UTC]

I'm thinkin' Hasbro should hire you, rather than the cease and desist...

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to BlindAlchemist [2012-04-07 05:46:39 +0000 UTC]

But I'm happy with my current job! (I'm a Park Ranger)

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BlindAlchemist In reply to OtakuSquirrel [2012-04-07 18:31:00 +0000 UTC]

Haha, well... Darn. Hasbro will be disappointed.

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Ivy-Redhead In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 19:24:18 +0000 UTC]

Yours is 100% cooler!!!

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Greyarch [2012-04-06 18:58:04 +0000 UTC]

I'm not in to the whole Pony business, but what on earth is that thing on the left? How much of a money grubbing bastard do you have to be to release OFFICIAL merchandise this shitty?

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Greyarch [2012-04-06 19:09:18 +0000 UTC]

It's honestly not the best picture in the world, and at least they're trying to give the fans something that they want... Poor Hasbro just still isn't quite on the ball with stuff yet...

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otaking3582 [2012-04-06 18:55:10 +0000 UTC]

And I thought it was sad that the McDonalds Pony toys looked better than Hasbro's!

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to otaking3582 [2012-04-06 19:08:20 +0000 UTC]

LOL! The regular toys make the best bases for customs-- I only wish there were more poses... McD's have that advantage over the regular ones...

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frenchifries [2012-04-06 18:32:16 +0000 UTC]

Their version of the glasses looks weird...

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to frenchifries [2012-04-06 18:55:01 +0000 UTC]

I almost want to say that they're limited by whatever machine applies the paint... which might be why they look so small...

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frenchifries In reply to OtakuSquirrel [2012-04-06 20:03:37 +0000 UTC]

That pink zig-zag thing is just... ugh.

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SPACEKOUGAR1 [2012-04-06 16:57:25 +0000 UTC]

yours is 20% cooler!

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GR33NTHUNDAH [2012-04-06 16:07:03 +0000 UTC]

Where'd you get the official Vinyl?

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to GR33NTHUNDAH [2012-04-06 16:14:57 +0000 UTC]

I snagged the photo from the internets... it was a picture taken at one of the toy-shows...

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GR33NTHUNDAH In reply to OtakuSquirrel [2012-04-07 00:42:22 +0000 UTC]

Aww yeaaah.

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AnonymousBlue99 In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 15:41:23 +0000 UTC]

Much better than the Hasbro one

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Kuziifish In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 14:26:37 +0000 UTC]

No offense to Hasbro, because I do like the idea of little kids everywhere being able to brush their pony's hair, but I totally love the way yours looks better. I can't really tell from the picture, but is Hasbro's glasses painted on? As in, unremovable? How horrid... Great job on yours, it's awesome!

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Kuziifish [2012-04-06 16:16:03 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, their's is a paint ap. Even if the glasses weren't perfect, they would have been 20 times better as an accessory.

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Kuziifish In reply to OtakuSquirrel [2012-04-06 16:43:25 +0000 UTC]

I agree 100%! Hehe

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Blayaden [2012-04-06 13:37:48 +0000 UTC]

*starts headbanging*

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DemonioBlanco [2012-04-06 13:36:55 +0000 UTC]

remember hasbro is trying to be cheap, so is not big surprise.

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mallary In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 12:50:11 +0000 UTC]

Did Hasbro release this line of toys now?

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to mallary [2012-04-06 16:16:28 +0000 UTC]

Not yet. This fall...

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kara1221 [2012-04-06 12:04:37 +0000 UTC]

passion>>>work.
your's great :3

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Darkreana In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 11:00:30 +0000 UTC]

Yours is sooo much better.

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n-pigeon In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 09:28:26 +0000 UTC]

Yours is much better.

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Twitchy-Tremor In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 07:13:01 +0000 UTC]

wait hasbro has a djpon3 toy!?

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Twitchy-Tremor [2012-04-06 07:36:34 +0000 UTC]

It's supposed to be released this Fall... so it's not out yet...

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uzumaki-nanaze In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 06:24:20 +0000 UTC]

asom

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to uzumaki-nanaze [2012-04-06 06:42:05 +0000 UTC]

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Oak23 [2012-04-06 06:02:56 +0000 UTC]

Lols people are acting surprised a bit of customization can drastically improve a pony... Regardless, DJ P0N-3 was my first pony custom though so I'm tempted to hop onto a resin hair order my friend is thinking of doing to get one of these hair kits and upgrade my Vinyl Scratch with this hair kit haha...

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Oak23 [2012-04-06 06:20:39 +0000 UTC]

I just had to go browse your gallery again. It's actually quite fun to go through and see how much someone has improved from the time they started until present. You and me are no exceptions to that.

I just bought more silicone for the new mane six molds (Uggg, I hate making molds... and the silicone is stupid expensive!) so hopefully I'll get back on track at some point and get orders open again sometime soon... ish...

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Oak23 In reply to OtakuSquirrel [2012-04-06 10:45:35 +0000 UTC]

Lols yeep, though I'm surprised that I managed to stick with ponies for this amount of time haha. Makes me kind of proud to sticking to them for so long

Somehow I have a feeling molding making would not be terribly fun to do. However I do hope you get back to orders soon

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Shattered-Stereo In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 05:40:54 +0000 UTC]

The glasses on vinyl look all funny on hasbro's
They really need better designs or something to help.:I

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OtakuSquirrel In reply to Shattered-Stereo [2012-04-06 05:45:57 +0000 UTC]

LOL! Well, I guess that's what one can expect from a paint ap! Still, one can hope they could revise them a bit-- they look really... not right.

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safe-test In reply to ??? [2012-04-06 04:07:00 +0000 UTC]

Do I really have to say something?

*Hears uncountable "Nooos!" from background*

...Alright, it here it goes: I personally like brushable hair better in pony toys. But the way Hasbro did is totally disappointing, like many things they did with FiM characters as merchadising: even the mane cast ponies are basically recolors, safe for Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie (if one look closely, the eyes switch between Dashie/Applejack to Rarity/Twilight, but I've never seen the eyestyles of both Pinkie and FS). If they weren't lazy and greedy, they'd make more money, but it seems that even making toys with plastic hair is too much for them. I can barely see a difference between any of the blindbags, everything they do is a recolor.
I'm actually impressed that you with much less money and structure is capable to make perfect and accurate toys that an entire company didn't. "What, so you don't think I can do this??" No, your ability is undoubtful (LOL liek I can invent this), I'm simply stating the obvious, that Hasbro is imcopetent due to greedy.
Not to mention you put cutie marks on BOTH sides of plot...

*phew* I'm sorry, I had to rant over this. I just... Feel a bit disgusted, because they have everything (almost) done and they just don't seem to do it right. :C

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Oak23 In reply to safe-test [2012-04-06 06:14:33 +0000 UTC]

I like to point out the mane 6 all have distinct eye shapes. Rarity, Dash and Fluttershy though only have about 1-3 recolours of their eyes whilst Twilight, Pinkie and Applejack have been recoloured to death, especially since Applejack's head was used on a lot of pegasi. Top of my head, Rarity's sculpt has only been recoloured for Dew Drop Dazzle, Fluttershy has been recoloured for Blossomforth and Dash has only been recoloured for Skywishes. Dash's eyes are bigger, rounder and closer together than Applejack's. Rarity's is more narrow and lacks bottom eyelashes than Twilight's.

Personally, Hasbro has been making ponies for the sake of their hair. If you remove the brushable hair part of things it severs the only real aesthetic conection this line has to the previous generations, and if Hasbro can make doll haired ponies for a few decades I don't see them changing that market any time soon.

I'm very often surprised how much this fandom seems to demand show accuracy in cheap, playline toys. Especially since Hasbro has never truly dealt with this kind of community for it's female toy lines. I really would like to see a completely accurate, mass produced female toy line that didn't get completely changed from prototype to retail versions that came from a show/movie entity that is priced similar to this G4 My Little Pony line. But I know I won't because we're not the target audience and that if Hasbro can cut corners on a lower priced toy line, they will.

I don't know, maybe it's from my years of collecting different female playline toys I don't really demand show accuracy, I rather just demand quality bases to customize on.

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safe-test In reply to Oak23 [2012-04-06 07:02:14 +0000 UTC]

Good thing you told me about the PP and FS recoloring head models, I didn't notice (because I don't see many recolors, I see the sets more). Gotta pay more attention next time I go to a toy store.

"...But I know I won't because we're not the target audience and that if Hasbro can cut corners on a lower priced toy line, they will."
...WHAT, so bronies and pegasis don't buy toys? Look at the majority of peeps in DA who take shots of their collections! Who said the fandom is not a target?
That's why I'm thinking Hasbro's doing it wrong: they're not changing with their public AND their product. I know it has a tradition because they're an old franchise, but if they wanted to improve it why they didn't improve AND change the way things are done? The MLP now is not the same of those of the decades, the show clearly states it, so it DEMANDS change EVEN BEFORE the product - change about their view of the audience, even if they didn't know older people could LIKE it so much. Maybe we are all stuck with the image of those ponies from the 80s which according to non-fans were pretty much pointless, if anything. So the people have to change, too.
I myself disliked the new cartoon at first, but then I took a better look at the series and loved it due to the quality of script. I didn't see this before in this franchise, so I guess the toys have to at least be of some better quality. The show is a GOOD show, and doing "mediocre" products and recycling the bad ones (I hate those baby-pony dolls, and so does the fandom) is only throwing away Faust's efforts in making this a good show. I just think they should pay some more attention. Just because the fans can make it better it doesn't mean Hasbro have done their part.

Also, consider that children recognize characters easier with accurate figures, and so a doll of it would make them happy. And an older fan even happier. And finally, consider that not all fans can custom of pay for a custom, especially if they're young - which, you know better, is NOT cheap... No pony is for free, so they have to be the money's worth.

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Oak23 In reply to safe-test [2012-04-06 10:26:28 +0000 UTC]

But thing is, we are not the target audience. It has always been little girls. There's no way in Tartarus that Hasbro could have predicted the way Bronies could have gotten onto this bandwagon as quickly as they have. And Bronies are an unstable market investment because this could be an internet fad or something equally as temporary, whilst they know the market for girls and their relatives isn't going anywhere any time soon.

Plus the time it takes a prototype to retail product takes any where from months to a few years. And so it's not like Hasbro could look at the Brony movement and then suddenly release a brony line of toys the next week. It's an entirely complicated process that takes time, willing to take chances and money. Lots of money Hasbro does not like risking. It's why the initial FiM toys look a lot more like the concept sketches and use vectors based on Faust's sketches because Hasbro needed that time to be able to launch the toys in a comparable time to the show.

And up until very recently, the people who work on the show and the people who work on the toy line have been two mutually exclusive entities that haven't really intersected asides from Hasbro suggesting putting some toy products in the show such as the balloon and friendship express train. This is why the toy line has brushables of G3 counterparts that never appeared in the show (who are also known as HasbrOCs).

The show is foremost, a big advertisement for the toyline. Hasbro hired Lauren Faust and the show team for this purpose but wisely left them to their own devices who managed to create an amazingly well crafted show despite the stigma of the franchise, the shoestring budget and some perimeters Hasbro imposed on them.

The Brony Fandom is still very new relatively to what Hasbro usually used to dealing with. And in the past Hasbro HAS listened to their fans, with the G3 pony fans and such. Even now, the upcoming products Hasbro is releasing includes background ponies from the show being released as brushables, many with the fandom names. They could have easily kept to their redesigns of G3 ponies due to still having the trademarks of those ponies. But with Vinyl Scratch, Nightmare Moon, Trixie, White Celestia and Zecora toys coming out, Hasbro is indeed tentatively listening to their fans.

However, Hasbro is a toy company foremost. They just license their characters and products to other media such as WeLoveFine or Studio B.

You honestly can't expect a huge corporation to flip a tried and true company model with pushing out a product that rests on vague hopes of a very small group of people on all buying it. Because in comparison to all the relatives who know nothing of the show and who just buy pretty ponies for their daughter/niece/cousin/sister, Bronies are indeed a much smaller audience than the main audience Hasbro always has aimed for.

And even if kids like show accurate toys, the price difference and production of the product usually is a deciding factor. Compare a mass produced, no joints Toy Story Woody to a highly articulated Rovo-tech Woody toy with high quality paint apps and switchable faces and poses. Hasbro is that kind of company who rather produce play line toys that kids bury in sandboxes than make high quality collectable figures.

Customs are indeed more expensive, but that can be said for any one-person operation in comparison to a huge corporation. Toys are, at the very core of it, luxury items. So I don't really see why Hasbro has to change things up completely in hopes to appeal to an audience they don't trust to actually stay interested, especially if they have to raise prices and all that. Hasbro is slowly changing it, but it seems unfair to expect them to do it at a drastic level.

Bronies are not Hasbro's target demographic and My Little Pony has always had more attention focused on the playline toys than the affiliated shows.

All in all, Hasbro does already put out product which makes them money. It may not be what Bronies would like, but as I said repeatedly, we are not the target group they hope to appeal to and aim to make money off from.

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safe-test In reply to Oak23 [2012-04-06 18:15:04 +0000 UTC]

Hm, now that you mentioned that, I don't think a pony with plastic mane but more easily noticed would sell less than the brushable ones. In fact, they'd not only be prettier but even cheaper - at least with a more attractive price than the brushable ones for older relatives because of the points you mentioned, like not having joints and such (those ponies don't move anything but the head), and I believe hair makes them more expensive. I guess the big stylish ponies would be enough as brushable ponies.
Not to mention, you said the people who do the toys are not the same that do the show, so the mediocre toys mean they don't what each other department are doing, and lack of communication inside a BIG corp is one of the biggest management failures. Also, the figures HAVE to be nice to look at without you having to custom. Or do you really think a girl would take a pony over a Barbie doll? They need a little help to stand out alone, and Hasbro's just not helping it.
So no, it's not only about fandom wanting their ponies to fan about, it's also showing some more respect to the audience and themselves.

"Bronies are not Hasbro's target demographic and My Little Pony has always had more attention focused on the playline toys than the affiliated shows."
You know, if they weren't aiming for a bigger audience AND a different strategy, they wouldn't want to hire Faust - which is a GOOD producer and writer. Her shows don't appeal to ONE or TWO kinds of audience (even if that's the goal). And even if they didn't predict bronies would exist (which I NEVER stated, I just told their audience for this show would change and they should've known that), why not give a try? Let's fact, they're hardly doing this. Lego and many other games AND toys companies also have to get profit, but when you listen to your audience and give what they want (which is what Lego does), you do get a better profit and even a better image in market - as long as you do it right, and I believe Hasbro CAN do this. They know what they're doing, I suppose?
And it's not that big of a risk - in fact, if they did risk from the start, maybe it wouldn't be that big of a loss at all, but a bigger gain in future. Instant profit is nowhere as big as a future, risked profit. They risked in the past by releasing the Pretty Pony and changing the whole product, so why not now? Bronies and grown-ups are a growing audience, and the tendency is to grow larger because they're not underground anymore. And just so you know, I had classmates in highschool and junior high who would often enter the toy store to buy PPG keychains (and this show was ironically created by Faust's husband). Also, my sister and my cousin (which is a male) loved this show as much as I did. If PPG was this way, why not MLP? Aside from the obvious, what makes them different? The public of this show was also young kids, mostly girls, and yet they had (still have) the biggest fanbase I saw.

"Customs are indeed more expensive, but that can be said for any one-person operation in comparison to a huge corporation. Toys are, at the very core of it, luxury items. So I don't really see why Hasbro has to change things up completely in hopes to appeal to an audience they don't trust to actually stay interested, especially if they have to raise prices and all that. Hasbro is slowly changing it, but it seems unfair to expect them to do it at a drastic level."
By how you stated, the audience is not supposed to change, so it's not the view on them. We watch the show because we're bored and they shouldn't "talk" to us more and we're a bit "underground", because a whole internet community (which is numerous and strong that can get obnoxious at times) that DO attend events regarding ponies or not to meet each other and buy ponies, along with veteran fans who liked G1 and love the most recent show and parents who like toys, are not enough for a trustful audience.
You pointed out how smaller the brony fandom is comparing to their main audience... So they're aiming for all girls in the world? Because the brony fandom is not that insignificant as you may think, otherwise they wouldn't dare ask for something more. Do you really think they don't deserve something good just because some THINK they're not the MAIN audience? If there are more people buying ponies is because of bronies, not because of little girls. If they ever HEARD to their public, they can do it again, and in a better way, and they'd make MORE money. Like they wish to. Right?

And before you mention anything, try not to think of bronies as the lame fans from internet. I'm talking about older girls (like me and most of my friends) and parents, not (only) the elder males or weird Internet people who call themselves "bronies". Those all ARE at least a possible target. Also, I have met guys who liked G1 ponies.
But if the target audience is still concentrated on little girls and should stay this way (so Hasbro doesn't have to make big changes), the revamp of the show for such a great change is pretty much pointless, they could just hire the same person who did the Rainbow Brite revamp (which is hideous) to do it.

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Oak23 In reply to safe-test [2012-04-06 19:03:33 +0000 UTC]

I'm just going to say this. Your frame of reference seems very skewed towards wanting Hasbro to produce basically a pony line that is drastically different to it's current line and to be drastically cheaper than fan made things. Um, haven't you heard of Blind Bag ponies? They have molded hair, cheaper than brushable ponies and look closer to the show.

Also I'm basing this on corporation logic, and saying how feasible some of your suggestions are. Toys getting approved and making them cheap enough to produce from prototype to retail product is a horribly long process. Even now the DJ P0N-3 toy shown is being released in August.

I myself am a big brony. I have 90 of the G4 ponies. I am very much immersed in the community, BUT I'm pointing out that to Hasbro, we as a group are not a very stable investment.

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