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Created as a request for 's Gamma Fleet Operations.Note: I am aware the by design a Nebula class starship cannot separate it's saucer section at will like the Galaxy class does, only in case of emergency.
However, part of *Turbulence1973 's request was that it can and I figured that might potentially be an option. Therefore, this Nebula class has a battle bridge and impulse engines on the stardrive section.
I'm generally not a huge fan of non-canon designs, but in this case it's within the realm of possibility and I guess it works.
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Background: Textured environment (starfield), nebula & asteroids. My work.
Meshes: Nebula class by Flat Eric (modified by me), Galaxy class battle bridge module by Prologic9 (modified by me), Danube class Runabouts by Thomas Slanitz & Peregrine Fighter by Lee Scheinbeim.
Composition: Scene and lighting setup in LW, final composition in PS, including some FX.
Star Trek © Paramount Pictures, All Rights Reserved.
Original size: 2680x1000, 226 layers.
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Comments and critique welcome.
Thank you once again to *TreeClimber for her WIP input and 'quality assurance'.
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Comments: 73
excellent ideas played-out; and, executed very well.enormous impact, here! saucers are a very great favorite, always SELLS. blend is just-right; for my taste! scale of the object craft' good. backdrop is stunning indeed! it looks so 3D, incidentally: the scattering speckling of rocks/meteorites over the view, is a good-touch, giving real physikal depth to the work! technique is strong, and the colors understating which i like! a nice sense of movement, everywhere, excellent again.
does what is says on-side of-can!
well done overseer, a great success. 101%
hope to see a lot lot more .. a lot of publicity need for "this-one!"
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hi, overseer! this work really turned out tremendous!!!; .. all credit to-you!! i dont know how you do-it! very well-done!! you are setting-the-bar "very high!" congratulations!
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Thank you very much! I'm glad you like how it turned out.
Credits for the idea have to go to though!
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Hate to break this to you...but the Nebula Class starship does NOT do a saucer separation!!!!
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I hate to break this to you, but I stated exactly that in the description. Second line of text; please read the description in future. I take care to explain what you can see in the image you're looking at. This was a concept and also a request.
That being said, it is an established fact, that most ships that have a distinct saucer/engineering section CAN seperate in an emergency; the sections are separated via small explosive charges, however, they cannot re-attach. It was just never shown in the show. You can read up on it.
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Awesomesauce.
Shame the Nebula CAN'T do this in canon, because it's a neat idea, and considering its lineage of being related to the Galaxy, I don't see why it shouldn't.
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It just made me think that all the Nebula class starships were depicted badly. I mean it's the sister's class, share the same basic design. Like the old Constitution and Miranda, though slightly different. Even the semi or non-canon Constitution derived designs.
If it was real life engineering, engineers wouldn't want to make two different hull frame while share the basic design. Sure there are minor tweaks once everything is assembled. But I agree, Nebula should have the same saucer sep ability.
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kool pic didnt think the ambassador class could detach the saucer, and I love your a peregrine-fighter fan, nice touch
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It's not an Ambassador, it's a Nebula class; and it can't really separate in this way. Please read the description underneath the picture for further information if you're at all interested.
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This is probably the most ingenious work involving the Nebula class I've ever seen.
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This is Awesome!
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There is actually concept art for that.
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Well, based on the availabe info and technical manuals, all Starfleet vessels have the ability to saucer sep during an emergency. Even the original Constitution class did; however, this is permanent. The saucer section is being severed by explosives in an emergency. The Galaxy class was different in that it could reattach.
So, in theory it could be done, but let's see. I try and stick to canon as much as I can (the above being an exception, due to request).
Thank you very much though!
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Yes, it's non-canon; so what? It's not that implausible (experimental ship design, perhaps), and the work itself is gorgeous! So, this old Star Fleet Captain is all for it!
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Well, it's not a problem at all, I just like the 'canon Trek' and I think they did a good job. I have no issues with fan based storylines, except some take it a step too far. *Turbulence1973 is not one of those, which is why I don't mind doing artworks for him.
As long as it is within the possibilities of the establishes Trek timeline... I'm good.
And thank you very much!
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This is awesome I never considered it could separate. I always thought the nebula class was more beautiful than the galaxy class and this just proves it.
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Thank you.
Well, it can't separate as such. The way the canon ability goes is that most starfleet ships if they're built with the 'saucer/engineering hull concept', they can jettison the engineering section in case of emergency. That's also the reson why most ships have the impulse engines fixed around the hull (think of the Enterprise/-A for example). The Nebula class is no different.
However, canon-wise the only ship classs that can do separation at will to date is the Galaxy class. In this case though, *Turbulence1973 's storyline requires the at-will separation, so I threw something together to make it possible. I guess it's within Starfleet Engineering's prerogative to modify their existing ship classes if the need arises.
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You know, I always played that scenario with a broken micro-machine of mine when I was a kid, however only the sensor triangle was seperable ^^'
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Well, there were all kinds of things you could do with micro machines! The sensor/torpedo pod is interchangable (there are several designs, one looks a little like the radar dish of an AWACS plane).
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I have one of the very first micro machine nebula classes, the ones that weren't supposed to be detachable ^^'
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Ah. Well, by design they're not detachable. I just threw this together as part of *Turbulence1973 's request, which requires it to be detachable like the Galaxy class. As far as the canon version goes, only in case of emergency can the Nebula saucer jettison the stardrive section. But I guess who knows. I suppose it could be a refit of some kind.
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Well, true, to a certain extend! I am, however, not generally a fan of, shall we say 'fan based storylines', because usually they are way to faaar out there or people use their own names as the main character (ego much?)... There really needs to be some merrit and base in 'trek reality' for me to be even remotely interested. After all that is what got me hooked and while I often see some mistakes in the shows, one has to keep in mind that the people that write some storylines are doing their jobs. I can't choose every single assignment that I have job wise either. Plus, you can't please everyone. Ever.
For the same reason that I don't like cross-overs of any kind. I don't think that neither Star Wars, nor Dr Who, BSG, Babylon 5 or anything else have anything to do with Star Trek or with each other and should stay in their own damned universes.
If I watch sci-fi shows then it is because of their respective unique flair and setting. To each their own I say.
To me cross-overs are just silly and make no sense half the time (super heroes included). I also don't like this entire "Star Trek vs. Star Wars" stuff that keeps going on. I'm a Star Trek fan, but that doesn't mean I don't like Star Wars. I don't own a uniform of any kind and probably never will. That's not the kind of fan I am. I'm interested in the show for it's stories, scientific accuracy (within limits, of course) and it's statements regarding current issues. It's inspiring.
Star Wars is the sci-fi version of Lord of the Rings so to speak, so in other words, nice to watch (or read) now and then, but that's about it. But keep it all separate!
But that's only my opinion. Either way, I think I ranted enough for the time being, so.......
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Glad I was able to keep it real enough for you. I actually have the same feelings about a lot of fan fiction believe it or not.
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I have nothing against fan fiction as such (was reading an unofficial Firefly novel recently that was quite well written).
What annoys me is when people self-righteously think they need to bend Star Trek into something different, completely disregard the established history (which is a very long timeline) and on top of that have the audacity to complain that Gene Roddenberry obviously didn't do it right. While I
The man had the IDEA. If people don't like it, their problem. Drives me nuts. I have no issues with creativity, having a part of a storyline play out differently, or tell the story of a part of a fleet (like you do), that's perfectly fine. That's what the shows do. We see certain crews, stations, ships, not all.
But when people disregard the Federation, create something completely new and, worse, apply their bad acting on top of it... creativity or not, that I can't handle. But that's also only my opinion. People can do what ever they want, just don't expect me to like it (bit like Religion, bu that's another conversation entirely).
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Ranting is awwright.
But yeah, I definitely agree to your points. Especially on the point about crossovers.
unless ...
it's done this way: [link]
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Ha... well, I look at that movie as a 'parallel universe'. That way I can justify it. Only that way......
As for cross overs, I just found this: [link]
I think I could potentially endorse that kind of badassery (last picture!), but there is always one exception.
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And as to the picture ...
Roflmfao
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I do not even regard it. paramount and Abrams cannot make me accept something as atrocious to the very idea of Star Trek.
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Well, it wasn't a bad movie overall, but a few details alone are enough to annoy the hell out of me.
Why the hell do the engine rooms look like some gas or oil plant? Submarines we have nowadays look more sophisticated than what they had there. Hell, the NX-01 looked more sophisticated. And what was ILM thinking with this red thing that attacked Kirk? Almost looked like a retextured creature from Star Wars' Episode 2! Totally and utterly ridiculous. Not even mentioning R2D2.....
And Nero's ship. Wing Commander Prophecy anyone?! Sigh... like I said, nice entertainment and Kudos to Zachary Quinto for emulating Leonard Nimoy's walk/behavior as Spock so well. I was really amazed at that. But everything else? (Including the Nokia phone in the car kid-Kirk was driving) A biiig WTF. But hey, like I said, no better or worse than all that mirror universe stuff (not something I enjoy at all by the way). Let's see what the next one's gonna bring, but I for my part stick to TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT plus the other 10 movies.
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Me too. I hear ya bro.
Plus, let me say just ONE thing:
iBridge and LENS FLARES!
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Well, yeah, the Apple style bridge was a little shiny. I could have handled the shiny though had they not made the engine room look like a damned oil refinery. And having a window with heads up display instead of a viewscreen, OK... perhaps, still doesn't make sense to me.
There is 'breathing fresh air' into Star Trek and reinventing it entirely.
Bah.
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And there is 'butchering it and missing the point completely'.
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Not by canon design (unless in case of emergency), but I modified a Nebula class for *Turbulence1973 's request, so that it can.
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I hope there wasn't any permanent damage?! 
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