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PaganFireSnake In reply to ??? [2012-02-11 22:49:58 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. The snows are definitely one of my fav Corn morphs. There is just something extra beautiful, to me, about a white snake like her.

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DanniDarkness In reply to PaganFireSnake [2012-02-11 22:59:02 +0000 UTC]

White snakes are very beautiful.

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PaganFireSnake In reply to fiaoa [2011-09-14 22:55:38 +0000 UTC]

TY she is a nice looking corn. That leaf you see is actually a seed casing. She was hanging on a maple tree in the front of my yard and maples have seed casing that are kind of wing shaped. Helps to disperse the seeds as far way from the parent tree once they fall off.

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fiaoa In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-17 21:34:51 +0000 UTC]

so knowledgeable(spelt wrong isn't it?)

Ya that makes a lot of since now that I think about it. Sometimes I see them on the ground randomly.

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PaganFireSnake In reply to lizzys-photos [2011-09-12 21:57:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I see that as been a issue with quite a few of my friends. But maybe you can try to educate them more on snakes and can prove that you will be a good owner so will be worthy of having one. Sometimes that helps.

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Buhaaghule [2011-09-11 17:46:46 +0000 UTC]

Corn's are awesome snakes and make really good pets. I have a few of them but the snows are one of my fav morphs. Something about a white like this on a snake...just stunning. Do you have a pic of your corn up?

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Buhaaghule In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-11 17:56:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I agree.
I had two a few years back, a snow and a regular orange and white one, but we lived with kids and they escaped when I was on vacation x.x
I was so pissed!!
Yes I do, she's in my Photography folder, if you're interested.
She is a doll :3

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Buhaaghule [2011-09-12 01:16:16 +0000 UTC]

OMG yeah I would have been pretty ticked off too!:/ I have had snake get out in the past...I think every snake owner has. But that was all my fault. When it due to someone being irresponsible or just not thinking and they get away b/c of that...I'd have words with them!

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Buhaaghule In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 01:51:00 +0000 UTC]

xD yeah I was so annoyed.
I've had really weird living situations, and that one sucked xD
But now, there's no lil kids so I won't have to worry about Svet escaping.

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Buhaaghule [2011-09-12 15:35:13 +0000 UTC]

Glad you at least are in a better situation now. My brother and I are 10 yrs apart, me being the oldest. But even with him he knew better then to mess with any of my animals if I wasn't around, unless I gave him permission to do so. Even friends that he would bring over. They knew better then to mess with any of my herptiles. Mostly out of respect for me but also b/c they knew they would feel the wrath of me or my mother if they tried anything stupid.

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Buhaaghule In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 15:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Lol see, like my sisters respect that (I'm the oldest too), and my mum's friend's kids do too.
But when it comes to pets, they don't care.
It's like really?
I am the one who BOUGHT the snakes AND everything in the cage.
THEREFORE they're MINE!
xD
I dunno, I am glad, cuz Svet is my lil bebe.

I am thinking of getting a phantom corn for her to possibly breed with.
I think a striped phantom would be cool!!
I still need to read up and stuff, maybe sell the hatchlings to local petstores!

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Buhaaghule [2011-09-12 19:23:59 +0000 UTC]

Well the stripe is a simple recessive and Phantom is a double recessive. You may not get a striped Phantom with a first breeding unless the stripe has the gene for Phantom and/or the Phantom has the gene for stripe. You may need to cross back one of the offspring to the parents to get a Striped Phantom. It's like if you want an Albino Pied with ball pythons. You have to do some crossing back. And that is if you even get the offspring you need to cross back in the first breeding...
I love genetics but it can get a bit crazy sometimes...especially when you are dealing with recessive genes!

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Buhaaghule In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-13 03:18:25 +0000 UTC]

That actually makes sense.
Eh, isn't imbreeding bad though?
I mean, I can see how it'd work but I'd feel bad to make bebe go on mama or daddy xD
I kinda wanna experiment for my first batch.
Just to see, then go all out for my second, if my first is nice :3
Oh I am all recessive, they're the best.

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Buhaaghule [2011-09-13 13:12:21 +0000 UTC]

Inbreeding can definitely be bad. However we wouldn't have half of the morphs we have in all captive animals if it wasn't for inbreeding. That is why you need to know your genetics and know if certain morphs also carry some bad traits. Like the Caramel morph in Ball Pythons. For some reason that gene also carries spine kinking. Now not all Caramels are kinked. However it does follow that gene. So if you have a clutch of caramels you want to make sure the parents come from the best lines so there is less of a chance of kinking.
And with recessives most have been made by crossing them back to either parent or sibling to sibling. Yes you run into the chance of getting more problems but you can get issues with totally unrelated animals too. Like crossing a Sable ball python to a Spider ball python...that has been found to produce a still born offspring. So either way you are taking a risk anytime you breed any two animals. My suggestion, aside from knowing your genetics and if a particular morph is known to carry issues, is to also pick the healthiest animals.

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Buhaaghule In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-13 13:32:13 +0000 UTC]

Daaaaaaaaaaamn, that's intense. But as always, makes sense.
Thanks for the info again x3

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PaganFireSnake In reply to CrimsonArk [2011-09-11 13:36:56 +0000 UTC]

The snows have to be one of my fav morphs. I definitely have a special place in my heart for them.

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CrimsonArk In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 02:18:10 +0000 UTC]

Snows and butters my absolute favorites. I finally got my first butter motley at the last show I went to.
I'm still a beginner in the reptile game. I'm sure it's obvious, lol.

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PaganFireSnake In reply to CrimsonArk [2011-09-12 15:47:17 +0000 UTC]

Hey we all start off somewhere. I sure wasn't born knowing what I do and not even the best experts know everything. I'm always learning new stuff too. If you ever have any questions feel free to hit me up any time.
BTW I do have a butter too. They definitely are a very nice morph as well!

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CrimsonArk In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 16:10:55 +0000 UTC]

Aww, thank you! It's always nice to know someone with more information then I have about this. I love my dears, but I'm still getting lost on what to do at times.

I don't know why I am so infatuated with butters, but I am. They're just so pretty!

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PaganFireSnake In reply to CrimsonArk [2011-09-12 19:52:24 +0000 UTC]

Every one has certain morphs that they really like. I like the eyes on the butters and just their over all color too.

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CrimsonArk In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 23:10:17 +0000 UTC]

Their color is just beautiful. I love that vibrant yellow they become. ^^

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Frankey44 [2011-09-10 16:21:04 +0000 UTC]

TY. She's early 2009 "model". That yellow will start to show more once they hit about 1 yr old. But it also depends on what line they are from. Some snows develop more yellow then others.

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Frankey44 In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 03:56:12 +0000 UTC]

Yup, my baby is a little over a year and a half It's fun because he gets a little more yellow every time he sheds (which is quite frequent since he's a fatty)

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Frankey44 [2011-09-12 16:45:58 +0000 UTC]

Awe. Do you have a photo of your baby up?

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Frankey44 In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 18:24:03 +0000 UTC]

Yup, I just added a new one yesterday. And since I just got a new camera there will be more pictures to come of him and my other babies

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PaganFireSnake In reply to Frankey44 [2011-09-12 20:03:11 +0000 UTC]

He's cute. That's cool about the new camera! I'm upgrading mine in a few months. Though the camera I have now is good I have pushed it to it's limit and definitely ready for the next one!

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-10 16:22:55 +0000 UTC]

TY. She does have quite a bit of pink in her but she is just a "regular" snow. But the next herptile snow I go to (in Oct) I maybe looking for one of the more high pink snows....maybe a male since the males normally have more color then the females.

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-11 00:39:56 +0000 UTC]

my male coral snow corn is just about the same looking as yours lol think mine has more red in the eyes and pink on body but beautiful either way congrats do you plan on breeding yours

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-11 13:29:59 +0000 UTC]

Yes. I used to breed corns quite a few yrs ago but stopped for a few yrs. But I am planning on starting that up again.

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-11 18:32:12 +0000 UTC]

nice i have some eggs cooking atm

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-11 18:50:40 +0000 UTC]

Oh that's cool. Any particular morphs?

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 19:00:30 +0000 UTC]

well my male is coral snow and i have access to a ghost/motley and a okeetee atm the eggs i have atm are from the ghost motley should be interesting mix

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-12 20:15:18 +0000 UTC]

That should be interesting to see what comes out of those. Keep me posted on when they hatch and what you get.

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-12 22:42:32 +0000 UTC]

will do they should hatch about oct 17ish

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-12 23:22:30 +0000 UTC]

That's cool. How many do you have? I love hearing about what others have waiting in the oven!

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-13 14:30:26 +0000 UTC]

currently 11 eggs looks like maybe 1 or 2 might not hatch

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-13 16:39:20 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't give up on them just yet. Unless it's obvious that the egg/s is bad. Have you tried to candle them?

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-13 20:46:00 +0000 UTC]

not for a bit most of them are a clump

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-14 18:10:04 +0000 UTC]

I've candled ones like that. Of course it's not as easy. But if you can bring the container the clutch is in into a dark room, like a bathroom, you can still see some veins if you use a small flash light and angle it right. At least you should be able to make out the ones on the edge of the clump.

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-15 06:07:08 +0000 UTC]

true we are hoping all goes well the first batch we had all the eggs went bad this batch is looking amazing compared

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PaganFireSnake In reply to isaidno [2011-09-15 15:14:44 +0000 UTC]

Keeping my fingers crossed for you that this clutch goes well. A lot of the times first time clutches just aren't right and go bad. Some say it's b/c the females body isn't totally prepared for it, even if she is in prefect health and optimal breeding condition. Glad though that this clutch is looking good for you!

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isaidno In reply to PaganFireSnake [2011-09-15 19:16:17 +0000 UTC]

thanks i am sure there will be pics put off when they start hatching lol

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PaganFireSnake In reply to ManitouWolf [2011-09-10 16:23:26 +0000 UTC]

TY. The snow has to be one of my fav corn morphs.

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