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Published: 2012-03-15 20:34:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 16921; Favourites: 588; Downloads: 140
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Description Okay, I'm uploading this mainly because of completely personal reasons. You know, dragons are usually seen as six limbed monsters, they have two sets of front limbs, one of them being the wings, and the average hind limbs. For at least few years it has been my personal goal to figure out how to design a dragon that would use the hind limbs instead for the purpose of flying.

So, for me personally, this kind of feels like a conquer. Like my creature design skills just took a level in badass.

Umh, I'm just gonna roll in this feeling for a while in this corner here. Just a little while. Just until this gets awkward.

(I kind of want to make a character out of this now.)

Kind of inspired by a real life prehistoric creature named Sharovipteryx (because real nature always knows how to go neener neener on me). I just made it a power flyer dragon instead of a glider.

EDIT:
Added another paper. Some fine tuning with the design since yesterday. Also seems like it mysteriously spawned itself a commentary, in Papermonkey style.
Stiff spine with virtually non-bendable torso. Tail bendable, but not prehensile (horizontal movement easier than vertical). Haven't decided on size yet, but will not be bigger than an average horse. Most probably not even that.

EDIT2: 20.3.
Continuing with two new pages worth of scribbles. The head was rather challenging to design, can you tell? I think I like it now. Just need to learn to draw it. (The horns are for display, not for poking others. They are probably brightly colored.)
FAAAAAAACE!

Looks like I'm dumping here the entire design process. Umh, bear with me?

EDIT3: 25.3.
Two new pages worth of ponderings! Stuff like feet (or hands, actually, as all the walking limbs are technically arms), body covering and other random.

I actually also tried to put together a scientific-ish name for the thing. It's hereby Alapes scarabaeos. Or actually Älapës scarabaeös, the umlauted letters are held longer when pronounced. It is kind of blocky, as far as I understand, but it should mean something like "beetle-faced footwing". (All Latin, äla=wing, pës=foot, scarabae|us=beetle, ös=face) Just browsed my dictionary and sticked together words -without bending them- that made some sense and didn't make terrible pronouncing monsters. I mean, just try to stick "scarabaeus" together with something like "caput" (head) and make it sound like a single word. (Psst, if anyone knows how to mash together the Latin name properly, I do appreciate help if any of you knows better. In case I failed hard.)
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Comments: 181

BloodhoundYellow [2012-03-15 21:16:45 +0000 UTC]

This is epic beyond.... everything.

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Darigaaz-the-Igniter In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 21:13:58 +0000 UTC]

Certainly an unorthodox arrangement, but this has potential.

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RoFlo-Felorez In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 21:07:15 +0000 UTC]

hmmm.. clever idea, i never thought about 6 limbed dragons possibly using their rear limbs to evolve into wings

the sharovipteryx base is a good idea the front and middle limbs being arm like is kinda unique, i imagine this design almost killed you trying to figure out

great work

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Slaskia [2012-03-15 21:06:04 +0000 UTC]

Well...this guy certainly won't have problems with the 'butthang syndrome'. XD

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Rollinlol95 [2012-03-15 21:03:00 +0000 UTC]

*Face?*
That line was just funny XD

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DaikiTheWolfTIC [2012-03-15 21:02:47 +0000 UTC]

so cool!!!

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Herebellama [2012-03-15 20:57:02 +0000 UTC]

Very interesting idea. Unique... I like it! ^^

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LuciaSeriin In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 20:55:58 +0000 UTC]

Looks great so far. ...aaand it reminded me totally of this: [link] xD (that's the Sharovipteryx you were referring to.)

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Paperiapina In reply to LuciaSeriin [2012-03-15 21:57:53 +0000 UTC]

Haha, that's pretty awesome.

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pupusukka In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 20:54:55 +0000 UTC]

No nyt tuli vastaan sellasta mitä en ole ikänä nähny. Hyvää työtä

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shiari In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 20:54:09 +0000 UTC]

That... is frickin' awesome!

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Paperiapina In reply to shiari [2012-03-15 21:57:33 +0000 UTC]

Aww, thanks!

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keljoy [2012-03-15 20:46:15 +0000 UTC]

Now THAT is an original design!!!

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ARVEN92 In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 20:44:10 +0000 UTC]

Leg-wings! Those sure are something you don't see everyday

I am seriously amazed by the amount of creativity and anatomical knowledge your brain contains 8D

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Paperiapina In reply to ARVEN92 [2012-03-15 21:57:15 +0000 UTC]

Aww, thanks!

I have no idea where this all has come from lately. First it was just normal, playing around with stuff once in a while, and suddenly I want to Create Everything! Maybe it's the spring?

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ARVEN92 In reply to Paperiapina [2012-03-15 22:03:59 +0000 UTC]

No problems! <3

Well that's simply great! I wish I had your inspiration XD
Yes, it may be the spring! Maybe it's because spring came so suddenly. Here in Rome, it was snowing until two weeks ago... now it's so damn hot O_O

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Paperiapina In reply to ARVEN92 [2012-03-16 10:19:24 +0000 UTC]

And so much light! We're still below zero here (in Celsius degrees) but just barely, and the fact that it's not tighttime-dark at six in the evening yet is really something, when in December it was dark already at three pm.

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ARVEN92 In reply to Paperiapina [2012-03-16 19:42:14 +0000 UTC]

My my, that sure is huge change in such a little time!
Around here, the sun sets around 6 pm, but it's not extremely bright.
What really makes a difference is the damn heat -it feels like summer! O_O

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SinLigereep [2012-03-15 20:42:56 +0000 UTC]

Leg wings? That's definitely a concept I haven't come across before XD Congrats on making my brain do a double take.

In other news, this inspires me to try new anatomy concepts for creatures.

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Paperiapina In reply to SinLigereep [2012-03-15 21:49:05 +0000 UTC]

Playing with anatomy concepts is fun!

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SinLigereep In reply to Paperiapina [2012-03-15 22:15:39 +0000 UTC]

Do you play Spore? XD I imagine you might enjoy messing around on that game with making all sorts of creatures.

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Paperiapina In reply to SinLigereep [2012-03-16 10:04:48 +0000 UTC]

I miss Spore. I used to have it on my old computer, installed by a friend of mine as a gift. I lost it when I changed computers. I loved the game, though I never got to finish the space stage...

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SinLigereep In reply to Paperiapina [2012-03-16 17:15:05 +0000 UTC]

Aw. You should try getting it again.

... Though I think there might be a new Spore out? Dark Spore or something? Might be worth looking into.

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Wolfy-T In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 20:40:02 +0000 UTC]

I love your brain. Your creativity is astounding and I love learning about your creatures! PLEASE make these guys a species!

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Paperiapina In reply to Wolfy-T [2012-03-15 21:48:17 +0000 UTC]

Awww, thanks! My brains appreciates the compliment.

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AwesomeTheAmazing In reply to ??? [2012-03-15 20:39:16 +0000 UTC]

AH! That's sick! Great design! It would look weirdly cute when it walks, I think Good job, you should feel proud!

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Voidblade [2012-03-15 20:38:04 +0000 UTC]

Aika pitkät varpaat, meinaan jos nivelten rajaamat osat ovat reisi, sääri, jalkaterä ja varpaat.

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Paperiapina In reply to Voidblade [2012-03-15 20:39:54 +0000 UTC]

Se on vähän tarkoitus, niiden pitää täyttää lepakon sormia vastaava tehtävä.

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Voidblade In reply to Paperiapina [2012-03-16 10:05:31 +0000 UTC]

Eikö jalkaterän luita voinut laittaa siihen mukaan? Onhan lepakollakin kämmenen luita sormien jatkeena.

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Paperiapina In reply to Voidblade [2012-03-16 10:59:58 +0000 UTC]

Miksi? Mitä hyötyä siitä olisi siiven muotoa ja toimintaa ajatellen? Miten se vaikuttaisi toimivuuteen ja liikkuvuuteen?

Jos laittaisin jalkaterän luut varpaiden alkuosaksi, se ottaisi siiven varresta viimeisen kolmanneksen pois, joten ojentaakseen siiven auki sivulle, reisi- ja sääriosien täytyisi työntyä edemmäs ja suoremmas kuin nykyisellään. En osaa kuvitella siipisormien toimivan, jos ne osoittaisivat eteenpäin, ja se olisi käytännössä muutenkin rakenteeltaan lähinnä normi siipi käännettynä vain väärinpäin, ja miten se sitten toimisi? Koska polvi jäisi siiven varren ainoaksi niveleksi, se olisi hankalassa asemassa ja vieläpä siiven etureunassa. Suoraksi ojentuminen ihan etureunaan asettaisi sen alttiimmaksi vammoille jos se osuu johonkin lentäessä, jalkaterä varren osana sallii polven olla koukummassa, mikä antaa joustovaraa ja vähentää vammautumisen riskiä. Se olisi myös todella hankala taittaa kasaan. Lonkkaniveltä ei voi siirtää taemmas tekemättä otuksesta aivan valtavan etupainoista, jolloin lentäminen ei onnistuisi oikeastaan ollenkaan.

Sitä paitsi jalkaterän luut ovat rakenteeltaan saman kaltaisia kuin varvasluut, eikä niiden lisäämisellä siiven sormien rakenteeseen olisi oikeastaan mitään sellaista lisättävää, mihin ei sormiluista itsestään olisi jo. Eroa olisi korkeintaan yhksi lisänivel varpaiden varressa, sen nivelen voi saada muutakin kautta typistämättä siiven vartta.

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