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I've been raising fish for years. I have an out door pond, and in door pond and lots of tanks. I have northern fish, tropical fish and frogs. I've also had turtles and other things in the past. I am very into this stuff. So that is why I had to make this meme.Related content
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The claim that Co2 is Plant Food is long story short a gross oversimplification of matters
More on the subject of Climate Deniers.
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It is only an over simplification if it is denied that you need to have enough plants to be able to process the CO2. The atmosphere is a mixture. It is like making a cake. It is all about the configuration of ingredients. You're not pumping THE ENTIRE BOTTLE OF CO2 into the fish tank AT ONCE. And I never claimed that pumping the entire thing in at once was advisable.Β
People who deny that we have any impact are as bad as the hysterical climate cult doomsday fanatics.
The people who give out the climate data and call it fact, are not only the minority of climate scientists but they are also the same people who predicted we're going to have an ice age by the 1980s, or that entire nations will be under water by 2013. I also do not think that giving tons of money to the same corporations who are polluting for profits is any kind of solution, ever. Yet it is THE SOLUTION that climate cults always push for.
When I try to ask about things such as stopping deforestation or planting more trees, climate cult people tend to become outraged and will not discuss it.
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Also, there are many climate scientists who have data that opposes this cult, that the main steam does not want to have a voice. In fact, I am extremely surprised the main stream even allowed this article to even exist.
As I've also said many times and have made no secret of, I see plenty of evidence around everywhere that humanity indeed has a collective mental illness. Most people, even so-called Truthers, do not care about truth. They care about being perceived as right, and they crave endless debates and conflicts with others. They do not want solutions or resolutions and all sides are happy to let humanity and the planet go absolutely to shit, if it means they get their next argument / conflict fix.
Some people think my attitude about this is nihilistic, but pointing out inconvenient facts is not being nihilistic. Insisting there is no hope and that we've already lost, is nihilistic. I never insist that we have no hope, I'm always saying we have more power than we've been taught to think we have, and that we need to break the spell of collective learned helplessness. I do know we live in a nihilistic society and world, but to point that out in and of itself is not hopeless or nihilistic. But, whomever wants to disagree may feel free.
It is also true that inciting fear and panic creates more problems and it does not create solutions. The fact that Greta "wants us to panic" already disqualifies her as being anyone credible. She is a hysterical teenager and she is not someone I would want in a room with me during an emergency.Β
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The fact of the matter is that basically all peer reviewed research on the subject say that Global Warming is happening. But Beyond that, you did not even look at what's going on. The fact of the matter is that plants don't necessarily grow more if you just give them more Co2 for the same reason they don't grow more if you just give them more water. They need nitrates in the soil. Indeed some plants stop breathing as much at higher temperatures to conserve moisture as was pointed out.
Global Cooling was never seriously considered in the scientific community as something that was happening at the moment. In contrast in the early 20th century there was consideration of Global Warming as a consequence of Co2 emissions .
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[video] Greta Is A Pawn Of a Death CultSee also:Β
When this video is inevitably removed for "wromg think" at some point, you can still watch it on BitChute.
These Doomsday Cults are nothing new, nor is their exploitation of children. In fact, hiding behind children is a brilliantly strategic chess move for cowards with weak arguments. Especially children who have Autism, OCD, etc. Already several times, anyone who tries to disagree with her talking points, or who points out that this girl is being used -- is automatically accused and shamed for "picking on a girl with mental disabilities". Even Greta Thunberg herself refers to her "disabilities" as a "Neuro-diversity Superpower". In a way, she is quite right -- but let us keep in mind that every power has it's kryptonite.
Greta explains that when a person has a disability, they are unable to conform to social norms (and typically does not
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Well... that explains things
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In the Age ofΒ Dinosaurs Fern plants grew as tall as Pine trees due to the high amount of CO2. So I guess it's a good thing somebody is trying to contain it
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No one should be listening to Greta. Itβs blatant alarmist propaganda with the use of a child. Itβs just repulsive on all sides. Itβs kind of funny how if your ideas donβt stick with people, you have to use minors to get your points across.
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"YOUR FISH STOLE MY CHILDHOOD!" That made snortΒ
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It's not like the Pacific Garbage Patch coming from China is problem. Or the massive CO2 emissions from China that cause Acid Rain is problem.
Just a friendly reminder for actual problems.
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It is not actually the CO2 itself causing the acid rain, but rather the fucktons of other highly toxic things that are ALSO being burned in as much abundance as everything else. China is not exactly notorious for high quality safety standards. It is their industrial facilities, more so than their electrical generation, that is belching nasty stuff into the air. As for water, they do worse than just plastic. They dump just about every toxic thing you can think of or haven't thought of into the water. The Chinese Government and Chinese Corporations just view Earth as their all-purpose garbage can.
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bUt tHaT iSn'T iMpOrTaNt!!!!
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TO CLAIM THAT CHINA EVA DOING ANY TING WONG IS A WAICIST!!!!!!
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You are correct. I must throw myself off a cliff because of my internalized Wacism.Β
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I'LL GET DAT WASKAWY WACIST!!!
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Thanks. I hope you're referring to my sarcastic humor and not the science that should be obvious common sense but somehow isn't these days. lol 
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Besides, most of our oxygen comes from the ocean due to plankton, if anything they should be making an effort to save the ocean rather than litering at a climate protestΒ
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Yeah, partly covered that here:Β Β www.deviantart.com/comments/1/β¦
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Seen it, and theyβre a fool if I say so myself
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People have a tendency to blindly believe whatever feels emotionally comfortable for them. This does not mean "feels good" to them. Most people also don't realize that comfort has to do with familiarity, not good feelings. If someone is out of their element and they've not developed adaptability skills, anything new (even if it is positive) can create anxiety, and anything familiar (even if it sucks) at the very least creates less anxiety, if not a false sense of confidence.
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So if no one fits their emotional agenda youβre evil essentially in their eyes
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In the minority extreme, yes. In the majority norm, at the very least you're just viewed as naive or delusional.Β
There are many people who are "woke" on a great many topics and who condemn other people's denial of reality and the reactions of those other people, AND YET: when confronted with data that contradicts their world view, they act just as ridiculous in their own denial as those whom they accuse and mock.Β
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Basically they are double thinking and do a circle jerk around said person who has proven them wrong
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I think this provides the most clarity:
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Except we aren't fish and we don't live in a tank.
The levels of CO2 in the tank have to be monitored, right?
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As long as you have enough plants, it is not really an issue.Β
The point of this being:
#1 - in Earth's past, CO2 levels were A LOT HIGHER than they are today, with no cataclysmic results.
#2 - giving money to the same corporations who dump toxic shit everywhere (in the form of carbon taxes and whatever else) is not the solution. Plant more trees, stop clear cutting the rain forests.
#3 - the biggest damage to the environment from oil does not come from the burning of it, but rather the methods of extracting it. The money and means to upgrade everyone to solar, wind and other alternatives does exist and it exists, easily and affordably. The problem is, the same rich assholes who destroy the Earth for profits don't want these technologies to be wide spread.
#4 - China and India are the top polluters in the world, period. Yet no one is getting on their case. Not to mention in the case of China, what could the rest of the world do to force them to do better? Nothing.
#5 - when a volcano goes off, it puts more into the air than the total of anything humans have put into the air, ever -- period.
With that said -- our impact and the dangers are hyped, because the idiots we allow to run this place thrive on hysteria. These are the same people who in the 1970s claimed that by now we'd be in a full blown ice age. They don't have a good track record for being accurate.
We poison the environment in so many ways, and the way that gets hyped is the least impactful and the most easily dealt with.
The problem is, most people just believe the main stream news blindly and few people ever actually do any real research. Because the main stream is controlled by the people who thrive on the hype, all of the voices of the thousands of scientists who have other evidence and other data, are silenced.
The scientific method is not to "only look at the data that fits your world view" and "ignore all the rest". The scientific method is to examine ALL of the data and see what the actual facts are.
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Sadly, we also live in a society that is addicted to outrage and hysteria, so that isn't very helpful.
These environmental activists also have a track record for actually doing more damage to the environment in their attempts to save it, than actually saving anything.
We are poisoning the Earth's water supplies with pharmaceutical chemicals, industrial waste, toxic weed killers such as Round Up and in many other ways. We have a plastic patch in the ocean the size of Texas. The list goes on. Most of the ways that we're doing major damage and are harder to fix, are largely ignored and dismissed. And the least damaging thing that is the easiest to fix, is hyped to high holy hell.
The world has gone completely insane and I feel like I'm living in a B-Rated Dystopian Science Fiction Movie. It is beyond a joke.
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"As long as you have enough plants, it is not really an issue...Plant more trees, stop clear cutting the rain forests."
So we don't have enough plants to deal with high CO2 levels at the moment?Β Β
"The world has gone completely insane and I feel like I'm living in a B-Rated Dystopian Science Fiction Movie. It is beyond a joke."
Exactly what Greta Thunberg is saying...Β Β
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If CO2 levels were as high as they are claiming, we would be seeing exponential plant growth everywhere. The more CO2 the plants have to take in, the faster they grow. In fact the more CO2 rich an environment is, plants automatically adapt themselves to be able to take in more CO2 at once. The more CO2 they take in, the more Oxygen they output.Β
There are also plenty of cities and other areas which actually do not have enough trees. An insufficient amount of trees is actually what creates smog. I live in Chicago and we do not have a smog problem, because we have an incredibly lot of trees here (among many other types of plants).
Greta is saying we should all panic. I'm not claiming anyone should panic. I think we should calm down, look at all the evidence and act responsibly. This is not at all what Greta is suggesting. She is not only suggesting we panic, but that we should hand lots of money over to the same corporations that are polluting the planet in the first place.
Sadly, it seems to be quite common that people think all of the environmental pollution is some inevitable consequence of human activity that is impossible to avoid and extremely difficult to compensate for. This is a provable lie. Not only is it all very preventable from the get go, but it is caused by corporations polluting for profits. In fairness, they are able to do this because we the people elect morons to political offices and other positions of authority, and then we gullibly believe them when they tell us that all we have to do is allow them to screw us even more, and the problems will magically go away.
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It has already been guestimated that if we burned Every bit of coal in the world, we would not be able to raise CO2 to levels plants thrive at. So I don't know where she gets that we can add an infinite amount... we Can't!
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Well the MSM told her we can, so thats good enough for her!
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*lol* I don't stalk- A) this is my area of 'expertise' so to speak, and B) She's the only Ignorant person commenting on this, so who else would I be attempting to Educate?
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What, you can't take someone questioning your views? "The eyes are useless if the mind is blind." - isn't that how you put it?Β Β Β
btw - why is Kajm being a creepy stalker? If he wants to be involvedΒ in the conversation then he should grow a pair and unblock me. Sad bastard.Β Β
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"In fact the more CO2 rich an environment is, plants automatically adapt themselves to be able to take in more CO2 at once. The more CO2 they take in, the more Oxygen they output."
So you're saying there's absolutely no limit to how much CO2 an ecosystem can take as long as there's enough plants? And this is based on your experience with aquariums?
Wouldn't this be an example of "bad science"? (point no.6)Β
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What I said was, as long as there are enough plants to process whatever CO2 is there, then it should be fine. Plants do adapt themselves to be able to process a lot more at once, when CO2 is in abundance. That is simply just science. Science that has been observed by scientists who know a lot more about the biology of plants than I do.Β
You can twist my words to extremes I am not actually claiming if you wish, but I don't really see how doing so is in any way productive.
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"What I said was, as long as there are enough plants to process whatever CO2 is there, then it should be fine."
Again, I refer back to your bad science post - (point no.5 "Speculative Language")
How many plants are needed to process all the CO2 that we produce + the odd volcano going off?
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I would like to add: increased levels of CO2 also cause the plant to become More efficient in water usage and therefore More drought-resistant.
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I didn't actually know that. Neat.
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Yeah but that would require things like better irrigation and even dams for better water control.Β . .of course environmenatlcases don't seem to care for those two things either. Seriously, if you have a poor village in Africa and someone gets an idea to somehow divert a nearby river in someway so they can get the water for crops then they better hope the tree huggers don't hear about it.
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GeneralTate showed me some before and after photos in his area in Oregon. He could fill in the details better but there was this one dam that created a thriving ecosystem. The greenie nutcases got offended by it and managed to have it removed. The removal of the dam wrecked the ecosystem totally, and the loss of plant, animal and fish life was catastrophic. Way to destroy the environment while trying to save it!
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At around 2000 or so, some environmentalcases lit up a few cars in a local car dealership. . .idiots put more pollution in the air in one night than one of those gas vehicles would in a year.
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Because that did worked.....
in Total Recall,
and the Lorax.
You want Total Recall to be reality?
This is how you turn Total Recall into reality.
Thought that is a goid idea.
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I'm not sure what Total Recall or Lorax have to do with anything.
It is simply just a fact that plants take in CO2 and expel oxygen.
This used to be elementary school stuff, but I guess they don't teach about it anymore.
In the past, being pro-green used to mean being against giving money to giant corporations that dump poisons into the environment, and it used to be about planting more trees and saving the rain forests and things like this. But now, it is like I'm living in some strange B-Rated Dystopia Movie where pro-green people argue against planting trees and saving forests, and instead they want to give corporations (the ones that dump poisons into the environment) money by way of carbon taxes and other means.
It is beyond a joke.
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Here is an idea.
Bring the guillotine.
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If that was any sort of final solution, the French Revolution would have solved all the worlds problems.
We the masses, just need to stop putting psychopathic morons in charge of everything.
But this is a hard one for now, because it would require the masses to stop the blame game long enough to realize that yes it is they, who have enabled the psychopathic morons.
It is like being in denial of the fact that we continue to add fuel to a fire, and instead accuse the fire of being self-fueling.Β
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That poor diluted midget-oh wait...thats a girl? I thought i was looking at a crazed midget for a second...
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