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If you are hateful and prejudice, you deserve to be offended by this and I certainly hope that you are
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let them move into your house then, you'll change your mind soon enough. LOL.
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Well, any coward can act violently like a rabid dog. Look at ANTIFA for example. lol
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As a kid I always thought the KKK were most creepy when the eye-holes on their masks were narrow slits. I also found the red-robed Klansmen scarier than the white-robed ones for some reason. But one day I realized that the blank, staring, round holes that are usually seen are just as effective. Cracked.com did a list of subconscious human fears and pointed out that hollow eyes conjure up the image of the medieval executioner, as well as putting forth a totally neutral expression that is terrifying precisely because it's completely inscrutable. They argued that Michael Myers's white mask with empty black eye-holes makes his scariness effective for just this reason. I find venomous snakes intimidating in the same way.
But this? No offense, but I think it should have been funny, not creepy. And it would have been funnier if, instead of a Photoshop, there were Kleenex with eye-holes in them draped over the kitties' faces. I've been with people who have done that gag before, and it's pretty funny even though it's in REALLY bad taste. Besides, I love kittens and I'd rather not think of them in this way.
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I am a huge fan of humor that focuses around what society deems as inappropriate, taboo and bad taste. My favorite comedians do this sort of humor, such as Bill Hicks and George Carlin (may they both rest in peace) as well as insult comics such as Lisa Lampanelli .
As for the red-robed ones -- if you're a Star Wars fan, that might be why. Remember these guys ?
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Racism is stupid, God all made us unique and we must accept that.
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Aw, don't insult cats by associating them with those idiots.
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Multi-Level Hyphenated Term Racists are the Perverse Paradox.
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The problem with this picture is that kittens are adorable
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I am hurt that you are being so offensive an judgmental of cats. They have a right to not like or associate with dogs.
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So we've noticed. *looks at Michelle the Surly*
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Anyone who strikes at someone else while hiding behind a mask or a computer screen is a coward and deserves no respect or cooperation. Period.
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LOL i know, right? hahaha. I think prejudice in general is just one of the all time epic fails of insecurity. i'll give those fuckers credit on one thing though: they aren't trying to pull the wool down over anyones eyes except for their own. they genuinely believe in the utter horse shit they are spouting. lol ... its not like they spew it to others but don't actually believe in it themselves. tragically, they are actually gullible enough to be absolutely honest when they say they believe in all that nonsense. lol
Don't get me wrong, I love racist jokes. But you do know the difference between racism and a racist joke, right? Silly racist doesn't realize its JUST A JOKE! 
My Dad was a teen in the 1960s so he used to be quite racist but not so much anymore. The 21st Century has opened his eyes to the fact that people are just people. So now he likes to simply say: "i'm not racist, i hate everyone equally!"
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Well, I can't say I haven't laughed at a good racist joke before (I won't say about which race... >.> )
But I think that actually taking on that perspective in life is ridiculous, so I agree with you there.
Then again...just how racist WERE those jokes you heard? Don't need an example, just wondering... >.>
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I have heard some of the most simultaneously amusing and utterly tasteless shit you could imagine
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I don't doubt that...well, at least you know where to draw the line. I grew up going to schools where they couldn't. It was not fun.
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I bet. You might like this: [link]
My friends and I sometimes like to do some inter-ethnic joking around just for fun
Like for example, one time my black friend Jarobi brought his PC over because it needed to have some nasty spyware and virus issues cleared out and whatever. The thing was taking for-fucking-ever to load up and while it was booting, he said to me "yeah man when you get to the desktop, just ignore the 'fuck the white people' wallpaper i got up there, man" and I was like "sheeit, is all good! whenever i see that sort of shit, i just shoot the nearest nigger!" and half-laughing he busts out "DAYUM! ITS LIKE THAT, HUH?!"
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WOW, lol... maybe I'm not THAT bad. I don't quite take it that far.
I can get a chuckle out of that, but I have NEARLY enough white friends to make a regular habit out of teasing white people like that. Lol, funny stuff tho...
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One time me and the same dude were driving through a dominantly black area of Chicago and we pull up to a red light. To my right also waiting for the light, is the only white dude other than myself as far as the eye can see. So as the light turns green and we're about to be out of that intersection -- I look at Jarobi while pointing at the white dude on the corner and I say "sheeeiiit! Der go da neighba-hood!" and both Jarobi and I bust out fucking laughing hard core.
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WOW...lol.
You're lucky to have a friend so understanding...
Not many of my white friends would have thought that was funny... >.>
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Not really sure whats so wow about it. I just takes being laid back in the chill flow and focusing on just being happy and having fun. Theres no need for hate, my brother
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Well, as good as that sounds, I did not grow up in such a tolerant environment. It's just kinda refreshing to see that people actually exist that can be so laid back about a topic that usually isn't so...laid-back.
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Well humanity is waking up and giving birth to a new beautiful world. It just that with any birth, labor pains can be a bitch. So theres lots of shit the human race is getting out of its system right now, which is why there seems to be an all time high rise in bullshit to unprecedented levels. lol
But hey, evil has to rise with the good because its gotta try to keep pace. But its destine to fail. You can walk into a dark room and brighten it with one tiny candle. But theres no such thing as a tiny "darkness candle" that can darken a bright room
You can make lemonaid from lemons but you can't make lemons from lemonaid. The universe, as balanced as it is, is slightly biased towards positivity
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Well, I'm happy to know that at l;east some feel the way you do. It promises for a better tomorrow.
Though I have some worries about the future myself, I also have some hope that things will get better before they get worse...
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Better and worse are subjective because as unique individuals, we all have different perspectives. So what it really boils down to is this: you're going to have "all of the above" happening until things climax. So, you can either ride the wave, focus on the positive and see opportunity instead of burden.
Or, you can self destruct in a pity party, see life as the glass being half empty and go into a mode of self-victimization dragging everyone you can down with you as you sink your own ship, soto speak.
Everyone has this choice now. Everyone is pretty much being forced to pick a side and the sides are: fear and love.
Simple as that.
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Well, of course, as a Christian, I strive for morally upstanding pursuits. And yet, I realize that, according to the stereotypical morally-gray average joe, when I say worse, I mean more violent, more lustful, more criminal. Just worse. According to the Bible, things will not end on a good note.
It's not to downplay the good parts of society, it's just the entropy of human morals. They start off good, innocent of sin, and oblivious to what is wrong about the world. Compare that to now, kids learning about sex WAY earlier, child molesters, abortions, etc. By the time the world is on its way out, it'll be ten times worse, if not even worse than THAT.
All I meant is that it's good to meet some of the good people before all this goes (quite literally) to Hell.
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sorry sometimes dA likes to think i saved the message when i really, really did NOT tell it to do any such thing. lol
Anyways:
The bible says the new world will be created and the old world destroyed. A re-birth. This is both literal and metaphoric because it describes sudden, drastic CHANGE. So of course if you can roll with the change, you'll be fine. If not, then you will quite literally come to the end of your life here on Earth. Killed by the consequences of your self-imposed ignorance, or killed by some natural disaster or some man-made fiasco of some sort. Yes, truly. For people who choose fear, they are fucked. If you continue to choose fear, you are fucked. Cuz thats what fear does.
Do I think hell is a place? Nope. Its a state of being. As is heaven. People are in hell NOW. People are in heaven NOW. Both of which are states you can be in on EARTH. At ANY given time. Both of which are states you can be in in the AFTER LIFE (as some people refer to it as).
Why? Because God has given us FREE WILL CHOICE. Thats why.
So I choose LOVE. I choose what JESUS TAUGHT. I choose to be a positive force for change.
If you continue to choose fear and destruction then how tragically sad for you. But -- I RESPECT your choice!
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Very sad that you feel that way but believing is seeing, not the other way around. You've been hooked on fear by misleading fundamentalists as the message of the Bible has been skewed and distorted. I myself am a Christian and have read the Bible and where you see doom, gloom and a bad ending I see love, hope and the promise of a really good ending that Jesus and others in the bible have talked about but most Christians ignore, provided they even realize its in there at all.
"all of the works i HAVE DONE you ALSO SHALL DO and GREATER STILL than these shall you do!"
"the same father within me, is also within you. as he is god, you also ARE GODS!"
"all it takes is faith smaller than a mustard seed and you can command the tree to plant itself into the sea and it will obey you"
"and in the end times there shall be lightworkers. you shall know them by their works"
"and satan and his armies will be destroyed by merely the word of the lord"
I can go on and on and on but you know -- if you want to think everything is going to hell then FOR YOU it will. Because you're being given a CHOICE between fear and love, my friend. God talks of this choice for these times. Jesus foretold of it. Many other ancient cultures have mentioned it. Quantum Physics is even proving it.
So its all about frequency, quite literally.
Love is a frequency, fear is a frequency.
This is why god said that he does no harm to anyone, we do it to ourselves. We are able to choose and resonate whatever frequency we wish.
When I was a child and was learning about this I asked "who would pick fear? who would choose hell? why would anyone wilfully walk a path of destruction?"
I really didn't get it and I honestly don't think any kid or adult around me at the time got it either, they just kind of took it on faith. But now I get it.
It's as one of Hitler's right hand boys once said: "through propaganda, time, patience and strategy -- it is easy to make people think heaven is hell and hell is heaven".
The NWO (new world order) are the prophesied "demons of the bible" if you want to call them that. Don't take my word for it, do your research.
Equally -- all of the quantum physics, spirituality, new age, metaphysics, etc is the knowledge OF CHRIST coming forward to the masses. The light workers. Beating back the darkness so satan can't win.
Of course this shit is demonized and called witch craft but hell, the amish think electricity is evil. lol
Jesus himself was demonized and accused of working for Satan when he was alive so why would that be any different now? lol
Jesus said that when the people of our time begin to figure out how to do all those works he did "and greater still" that yes, people are gonna go on just as much of a witch hunt now against the light workers as they ever did against Jesus. Many of us will be ridiculed but that will be the worst of it. Some of us will be tortured and killed, just as people were back in the days of Jesus. Its not as if this world has become civilized. lol
The bible says the new world will be created and the old world destroyed. A re-birth. This is both literal and metaphoric because it describes sudden, drastic
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I'm not here to debate with you. Everybody has their own school of thought.
But I personally don't believe it was meant as you interpret it. We are NOT gods.
We are mortals, and have only the power to do what God WILLS we should do. He gives us free will, yes, but it doesn't mean we can make the universe bend to our every whim.
When he said greater works shall WE do, He meant for the glory of the Lord, not for our own purposes down here on Earth. The material world is not going to be our Eternal Home; everything He does is not meant for THIS world, but preparing for the world that comes after this; the Kingdom of Heaven.
And believe me, Heaven and Hell are NOT here on Earth. Hell is VERY real, as is Heaven.
When the damned are sentenced to Hell, they will be going forth into eternal damnation and Hellfire and Brimstone, not just some sad and lonely wavelength.
When he said "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels", and "Weeping and gnashing of teeth" and "the smoke of their torment ascendeth forever", it was NO metaphor. He meant a very real place.
And as for the New Age stuff, it is all baloney. I know that for a fact. By believing that we can simply attune ourselves to a certain wavelength or frequency, and control the environment to match our desires, that is WITCHCRAFT! It is no different than casting a spell, or using as magical potion. And witchcraft comes from Satan; to know things we have no right to know, and to do things we have no right doing, is against God's intentions for us.
Not that healing others or casting out demons is wrong, but if we go about it through the wrong channels, or call upon our own supposed powers instead of the Blessed name of Jesus, then we most certainly are working iniquity.
I also have a bit of a problem with the term light-workers, I prefer just being Christian, but I'm not going to get into that. The point is, not everything in the Bible is a metaphor. Perhaps some words are metaphor, but it is intended to prepare us for very real events.
And one of those events is for sure the END of the world. It SHALL happen. And before it does, the world shall be like unto the days of Sodom and Gomorrah.
A world of sinfulness, in which the just are persecuted and the wicked prevail.
It is only when it gets its very worst that Jesus will return to call up the saints (and Babylon shall fall again).
I'm not sure entirely what you believe, but the King James Version Bible has opened up many spiritual doors for me, and helped me to realize just what is going on behind this world's illusion of moral and intellectual improvement.
Don't be blind to it. We are helpless in this world except by the Grace of God. THAT is ALL that spares us from damnation, so long as we pray to him in spirit and in truth, seeking His divine guidance, and his chastisement for our wrongdoings (so we can better ourselves).
I don't know about you, but I believe that only Christians will be saved. It is not me wish for that to be so, and I'm not basing that on some partiality or bias. I don't hate Buddhists, or Muslims or Hindus. I even love my gay brothers and sisters.
But the Bible tells me that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and that no man cometh unto the Father (Jehovah God) but by Him. You can't simply disregard His Justice and replace it with your own. You can't simply will that it not be so, and thus be excused from what He tells you to be right.
We will all be judged in the end, and when we are, we go either the Heaven or Hell.
Jesus says that this world shall pass away, but His words shall not pass away. And if this world shall pass away, how can it serve as Heaven OR Hell? Because Heaven and Hell shall be eternal as well.
Therefore, I think there's some information you need to review. God has something to tell you. Scientists can only think of the world in terms of what they see, and what they know, but the world extends beyond this material realm we can see with our eyes.
God bless.
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There are over 20,000 different denominations of Christianity and they all have their various interpretations of the Bible. So which one of the 20,000 is correct?
Have you even studied any of them? Did you know there are many different Christian denominations who have VERY DIFFERENT views on the Bible? Sounds to me like you might want to do more research into these things.
And by the way, the only verse that talks about hell -- the one you mentioned in Matthew as "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels", and "Weeping and gnashing of teeth" is a mistranslation from the original language it was written in which surely, was not English.
I'll not debate you either. Look into it, or not. Thats entirely up to you.
I merely told you what I think, is all. So I'll end on a quote from Stephen King: "if its any consolation, I also believe in God. I just don't think he's the blood thirsty asshole you make him out to be".
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Of course I've studied them. All of them? No. Not even close. But I'm not going to get myself confused and misled by trying to make sense of, or disprove, or contemplate things that suit MY beliefs. I want to be pleasing to HIM. And I want to know what He wants of ME to be pleasing in HIS sight, not the other way around. No offense, but I think the King James Bible helps me to know that, so I will stick with that, and ask Him to help me interpret it as best my human mind can.
I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything, or make someone think my thoughts are better than theirs, I only referenced the end of the world because of the political and social unrest that is currently going on in society, which makes racial tolerance and civility and good humor a welcome sight.
It was meant as no more and no less than a proverbial sigh of relief.
That's all I was trying to say.
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Well I too was merely expressing my views and not intending for any sort of debate because I do not require anyone to think I am correct about anything. Everyone has the right to think as they do about whatever.
I am simply saying that my experiences have been, in my opinion -- a far more loving expression of the nature of God. Truth is colored by perspective and language is far from perfect. It is easy to prove the discrepancies from the original languages when translated into English. Not to mention, King James was the one who felt it was a great idea to viciously slaughter men, woman and children in mass and break every single commandment "in the name of God" with the Crusades. God did not tell him to wage that war nor did he ever claim God told him to. He simply did it. There are also many holy books that should have been in the bible but instead were sequestered. God did not form the cannon of the Bible. Men with agendas decided what goes into it and what doesn't and this was decided centuries after the death of Jesus.
However, I am not going to try to prove anything to you because its like Fox Mulder said: the truth is out there
All I can do is what we all have the right to do: simply express whatever it is we believe. Freedom of expression is a default human right granted to us by God, as I am sure you would also agree.
I understand that your intentions were not meant in any disrespect and I did not take them as such
It is simply my opinion that the "fire and brimstone" interpretation of the Bible is a fearful and dare I even say, sinful outlook.
I can also say that in my experiences -- if you allow the Holy Spirit into your heart as Jesus suggested we all do; at the risk of sounding a little crazy: you will experience amazing things in your life that will be very profound and you won't be able to prove any of it to anyone. You're not meant to. As those experiences are as personal between you and God as sex is between a husband and wife.
What I will say of those wonderful experiences however: is that they have shown me Gods love and they have shown me a God who would never send anyone to hell. Though this God is so non-judging and respects all opinions so much, that if we choose to make our own existence hell, he won't stop us from doing it.
God is unconditional love. Satan can fake many things and pull off many illusions, but he is INCAPABLE of expressing unconditional love. So if you wanna know whether or not you're working with the "right or wrong" channels then in my opinion: any channel that does not promote hate or fear or judgement and promotes unconditional love is the right channel and is a representative of the Lord. Because only the Lord and those who are truly in his presence can have any understanding of or be able to express unconditional love.
Tossing someone into a pit of fire for all eternity if they do not do "this, this, this and this" is not love and it is a condition.
This is just my two cents. Make of it what you will. I'm not trying to nor desiring to convince you of anything. I am simply expressing how I feel. If you firmly disagree with me, then thats perfectly alright by me. Do as thou will
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And yet, it seems to imply that you don't even believe in Hell, or believe in the justice behind God's concept of Hell.
Hell is clearly stated in the Bible. Many of its torments, who would go, who would not go, how you could avoid it...all of that is clearly detailed.
It was not intended for people in the beginning, but "for the Devil and his [the Devil's] angels" for rebelling against God before man was even created. It is only when Adam and Eve committed the first sin (disobeying God's rules) that they were in danger of Hell fire, and because we inherited their capacity to sin, we are in danger of it as well (because eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil makes our free will more inclined to wicked actions, which displease God).
And so what about Hell is sinful, or wrong or unjust? Punishment of the unrighteous, by a God so perfect that His presence cannot stand sin? Or the fact that accepting Jesus into your heart can save you from it? He came to Earth to exemplify the perfect life, for man to follow His example (and says that even NOW, He forgives our sins, as long as we ask it in HIS name, the only one who can justify us). And so I see no problem with the concept of Hell at all, and I don't see why you do, either, as a Christian. God gives us warning after warning, through our entire LIVES, that the Devil (Satan) wants to take down as many people as he can, to spite God for being kicked out of Heaven. Only by accepting Jesus into your heart can you be saved (not because He wants to force you to see things His way, but because only He has the willingness and the power to do it).
How is that offensive? That's like getting angry when you're on your way to fall off of a waterfall, to your death, and the rescuer tells you that the only way to survive is to take the rope connected to the rescue chopper.
Again, not trying to push my beliefs, but I feel as a Christian brother, it's my duty to provide my perspective. And if either of us is right in this discussion, God's divine justice dictates that, so long as we search for him in spirit and in truth, we will eventually find out the truth anyway.
Be blessed.
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can be no others **
typos suck
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I mean no contempt towards you, but you seem to have completely dismissed everything which I addressed -- summarized it down to one assumption and then carried on with tons of questions. For someone who is only expressing what he believes and does not wish to debate, you seem to have a strong compulsion for inquiry and debate on this subject
If you read my last reply, I asked no questions and only expressed what I feel -- because I do not feel compelled to convert you to my point of view. You have made it clear that you're not open to my point of view, which is perfectly fine. You reserve that right. All of your questions are what is called "loaded questions". They don't so much ask me what I think but rather are designed to attempt to direct my thoughts into your paradigm.
I know you are not consciously trying to do so and you've made no intentions to do so. But, you believe so strongly in your own interpretations of the context and so strongly believe there can be so others, that this is the only way you know how to question and you know no other way.
Any other way would sound as ridiculous to you as asking "so what do you think the easter bunny ate for breakfast last night" as you have it in your mind that there is no easter bunny, thus rendering the question to be irrelevant to even bother having asked.
So if hypothetically there was an easter bunny, such a thing could not be prove to you regardless of evidence because no matter what -- you would claim the bunny is something other than what it is and claim the person saying it is the easter bunny, is taking things out of context while strictly and absolutely proclaiming that your context is absolutely righteous.
So if you truly do want to understand my thoughts on things, then I'm sorry. You won't allow that door to open to that understanding.
Also note than understanding something does not mean you must agree with it. It simply means you can understand the nature of it.
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I fail to see your point. I honestly don't know what point of view I should be trying to understand. You have yet to pose a solid point, beyond some sort of religious ambiguity, and I don't think God works that way.
I'm open to different interpretations, but to sit here and say "Well, ANY OF 'EM could be right" is basically saying I'd have to search 24/7 to inquire ANYTHING of God. I'd have to search non-stop and compare results, and translate from ancient texts, and guess meanings...
It makes no sense to go through all of that when I believe the answer is much simpler than people make it out to be.
If this is the belief that I feel Jesus has led me to, I'm sticking to it. I won't do what Job did, and question the justice of His words, just because I'm not exactly where I want to be in life.
I'm no Job, of course, but I try my best to interpret what Jesus wants of me, and what He believes is pleasing, and do THAT. I don't try to work my own beliefs and feelings into that thought process: I repent of what I believe HE considers sin, and I ask Him to forgive me, and help me better myself as a person.
I don't think that Jesus Christ is ambiguous in any respect. The words may be archaic, and hard for a MORTAL mind to understand, but I think God puts it all out there, plain as day.
What He expects of us, what we get in return if we follow it, and what we get in return if we FAIL to follow it. Nothing more, and nothing less, because this world shall pass away, but His words shall remain always. And He is perfect in His Justice, so if that means that people will be judged and held accountable for their wrong deeds, I'm okay with that.
I don't judge ANYONE, because it's not my place, being just human. However, I do believe that I follow the path to righteousness, by adhering to the words of Christ. I am only nineteen, I think I have a long way to go before I am considered worthy of Heaven (if I am blessed to LIVE that long).
But NOTHING is promised to us. God says that. He provides for us, and cares for us, but you never know when it is our time to die. And after we die, we go before Him to pay a final account for our lives.
I don't believe that's fearmongering, because I'm not AFRAID in the least. I feel that by the time my life is over, I will have been a productive and pleasing servant in His eyes.
It is only the wicked who should fear God's wrath, and they don't. So there's no true fear even going on.
And as far as misunderstanding, I don't believe any of THAT'S going on, either. I understand what you mean to say in some respects, but I don't believe that Jesus works that way.
Being perfect, he cannot tolerate sin. It is only when we are covered under His blood (not literally, of course; it's a metaphor for accepting His covering over our lives by believing on Him and adhering to His words) that we may hope to be forgiven of our sins and redeemed unto His kingdom.
Christianity (the TRUE adherence of Christ, not the commercialized stuff you see on TV) is a loving obedience to the God of All Existence. We obey Him not out of true fear, but the archaic "fear" which really means respect and veneration. It's like obeying a parent because it is the right thing to do (only much moreso, because He is GOD, and not just a parent).
All in all, I don't think that I follow a narrow-minded belief. The Bible tells me to love all people. It is their SIN that we must despise. And we must follow Jesus in spirit and in truth to obtain any wisdom that we gain in this world. We must carry Him with us in our hearts, or minds and our spirits always, and only then can we be successful, in this life and the next.
God is unchanging, infallible, all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing and perfect in every way. We should always seek to follow after the instructions of His perfection. We are imperfect, but He loves us always, and gives us our entire lives to come to Him.
And it is not an ambiguous quest. I don't have a particular denomination I adhere to, but I believe that the King James Bible is the conveyed will of God. How we interpret it is the only imperfection in the equation.
Otherwise, the word of Christ would have died with the disciples, and I know God wouldn't let that happen. He always gives us a chance to turn to Him, but he will not be lenient forever. THAT'S the urgency behind a SOLID belief to follow.
It's not because we're narrow-minded, anal-retenive zealots who want to flood the world with our own bigoted beliefs. God is the ultimate DECIDER of justice! So, whether we like it or not, He's set up rules.
It's almost like a test. It's open book, you've had plenty of time to study, you have the educational channel playing on TV, and the teacher is sitting outside, giving you plenty of chances to compare notes with friends.
So, when the timer's up, and everyone has to turn in the paper, you can't blame the Teacher if you fail. Every opportunity has been provided to you. All you have to do is find answers the TEACHER would consider valid, and answer the questions to the best of your ability.
I believe I'm doing just that. All my answers won't be right, but I'm at least confident I'm lookin' in the right book.
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You claim you do not judge yet you tell me things such as "You have yet to pose a solid point, beyond some sort of religious ambiguity". You simply are unable to process even the remote possibility that you might simply be misunderstanding me. You go on about how humble and mortal and God fearing and righteous and so on that you are, yet you can't admit your own humanity when it comes to something so simple as saying "yes =Twarrior , i am not understanding your point at all. which as you said is perfectly fine."
Because to acknowledge it is even remotely possible for you to be misunderstanding me would mean to admit that in some way, shape or form it is possible for you to be wrong about something and it seems you have a very difficult time admitting that you are capable of being in error, despite how much you rant on and on and about how error-ridden us miserable humans are and how the world is going to hell in a hand basket.
I know that you do not realize what you are doing and that from your point of view, you are being well intended and loving. I get that and I am in no way, shape or form under the impression that it is your goal to in any way be casting any stones, as Jesus would say
You accuse me of ambiguity, yet your statements are so ambiguous that you refuse to directly answer any of my questions nor even acknowledge that I have asked any.
You say you're merely expressing yourself and not trying to get me to conform to your beliefs, yet you continue to ask me loaded questions designed to attempt to sway me to your point of view.
You tell me that you respect other schools of thought, yet when when I "agree to disagree with you" on some points and state that we both reserve the right to think as we do, you continue to contest me as if converting me to your point is some prize to be won in a contest that doesn't exist.
You preach on about how the only true context is that of the Lord, but are unable to see that you're only speaking from your own point of view and not that of the Lord because you refuse to see that there are over 20,000 Christian denominations that all firmly disagree with each other on a great many things.
You talk of Christians being united through Christ, yet we are clearly divided.
You talk of simplicity of the point you are making, without even realizing that you are over complicating your own points.
You can not even see that I have any points, while though I disagree with many of your points I do acknowledge that you are making the points you are making to the best of your ability to make them.
You talk of how humans are impefect, yet can not even bring yourself to see that as a human yourself -- you are capable of misunderstanding someone's point.
You contradict yourself constantly, without even realizing it.
You speak with arrogance about how humble a Christian you supposedly are.
I could list more but I think I've said enough on that
I could debate the Bible and length and surely I could toss up more versus to support my point and also show you information about the versus you have provided me to shoot down your point. But, why? What would be the point of any of that? In the end: you would fail to convert me to your point, I would fail to convert you to my point and all would be for naught. So, why have a textual arm wrestling contest that is unwinnable and why should I even feel the need to win in the first place?
The sort of person I decide I am only has to do with me, the sort of person you decide you are only has to do with you. So what good would it do me to attempt to change you? I'd rather respect your God given free will. To me, that is the better idea
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I fail to see the point of this discussion. TRULY.
Anything I say will be wrong, and so why even continue it? You obviously think that anything I say is arrogant, or narrow-minded or trying to convert you, and I am not (just like I said from the get-go). You think I'm speaking from my own perspective, and I am not. At least not entirely. I'm speaking what I believe God wants me to say, and that's the best I can do.
And so, if you even perceive my humility as being arrogant, and my openness to understanding as narrow-minded, then you are RIGHT: there truly is no speaking to you on this topic.
I thought you said something about being "open to understanding" to mean that the topic was up for discussion, but obviously it is meant that you don't want to bring up the topic of religion at all, because of our various differences of belief.
I honestly fail to see the use of continuing here any longer, as I will continuously be vilified as being judgmental, just like numerous other schools of faith throw that word around to describe Christians. If I see something I believe to be of a questionable validity, I wanted to bring it to your attention as a Christian brother. I thought you would understand that.
But as I said, I won't make any bones about it. If I'm coming across to you as arrogant, or narrow-minded, or some sort of bent-on-conversion religious fanatic, then you don't have to worry about me bothering you again.
As I said before, the topic only ever came up because of a reference I made to belief that I hold, and mistakenly thought you held as well. But I was foolish; upon realizing that you did not, I should have cut off the conversation from there. And so I will do it here.
There is no need to message me further. You are free to believe what you believe. And I will continue to believe what I believe. And I respect what you believe, as you have assured me you respect what I believe. I have no qualms about your thoughts, nor do I care to convert you like some sort of vampire or zombie. You are not some sort of religious conquest, nor were you ever intended to be. That was never my intention, and I only ever wanted to give you things to think about when I asked you my "loaded questions"; in addition, it shocked me when I realized how DIFFERENTLY we think, which is why I inquired of you.
So forgive me if I came off as anything other than my intentions. It was never meant that way, and at the risk of having the accusation arise again, I will likely not be responding to any more of your posts in the future.
Take it as narrow-minded, or mean-hearted, or mean-spirited, or spiteful, I am okay with that. I just don't like being vilified. And I refuse to stand for it any longer. So with this, I depart finally. Be blessed, and feel free to go on about your life as though I don't exist. If you speak do me ever again after this point, please let's keep it on a secular level. Despite how arrogant it may sound to you, I really DO try to avoid conflict (I don't just say that to make myself look good to you, despite whatever you may think of me).
Good day and good bye.
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I wasn't vilifying you. Simply stating my impression of how you were speaking to me and I was being extremely secular about it. I don't think badly of you for saying any of the things you did and I did say so, several times. I am not vilifying you, nor do I think you're trying to vilify me, either.
I'm not the least bit offended by any of your words. I know of many who would have been, but I am not easily offended. Someone could toss a boatload of colourful profane metaphors at me and I'd laugh
But if you are so intolerant of how differently we think, then I respect your choice. I am sorry you've decided to become offended, but I respect your feelings and shall not bother you with this topic any further.
From my perspective, there was never a conflict. Only conversation.
Good day
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I've said numerous times that I am not intolerant of ANYTHING. It's not a boast, or a brag, it's the truth.
If I were intolerant of your beliefs, I wouldn't have even spent time trying to speak to you the moment I noticed our views differed. I would have written you off as some lunatic or some maniac, and never given your words a second thought.
When I offered my perspective, I wasn't being intolerant of what you think. I personally could care less if you worship Jesus or Satan or the Nephilim on Nibiru: I was just offering what I thought was a helpful point of view.
I only cut off the conversation because I keep trying to tell you I mean no harm, and that the reference I made in that earlier statement (about the world coming to an end) was not meant to convert you to ANY belief, only to share my own. And yet somehow, it's construed into me being some kind of recruiting agent for an esoteric sect that follows a cruel and heartless God.
I'm none of that, and I won't sit here and be labeled just because I have a firm belief in how I go about my relationship with the Lord.
I have a firm belief in how I follow Christ, and I shared it with you.
It was meant as nothing more and nothing less, yet you took it out of hand, saying I'm not open to other people's perspectives, and I'm intolerant of our differences. The first comment was never even about that, and so I have no clue how we got off on that subject.
I was trying to keep it on a secular level the entire time.
THAT'S why I got offended. I made a reference (while COMPLIMENTING you on your racial perspective, by the way), and this whole foolishness got started about how so many different Christian sects exist, so I could never know the absolute truth about what God is about.
Just because I don't think this world will last for eternity. As soon as I said that things would get better before they got worse, YOU commented saying something about how I couldn't possibly know the world would end and how Hell was here on Earth. I didn't start the conversation in that direction, and would NOT have, if you had just taken the compliment and left it at that.
So if anyone should be calling anyone intolerant, it should be me. At the mere mention of a belief different than yours, you went off on some tangent about how I'm so misled and misguided and not open to understanding.
Believe what you like, but personally I regret ever having said what I said. I'm never understood as I mean, and that's obviously something I need to work on.
Until then, maybe I need to talk with others who agree with me, since in your opinion, inter-faith exchange is beyond my mental grasp.
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Nothing is beyond you and all is choice. I hold nothing against you. If you beleive otherwise, I respect your right to believe as you see fit.
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TeeHee, you have won in my book!!! But *gasps* what a bad name you gave to the kitties D:
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