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Description I have repeatedly asked Christians who support the Iraq war outright, over and over, can you picture Jesus Christ picking up a rifle and heading for a firefight in downtown Fallujah? Or piloting a B-2 bomber and guiding J-bombs on civilian heads? And recently the answer has been a rousing Ted Nugent-style "HELL YES!" -BUT! That's not the image you see Christians portraying Christ in. You see modern Christian art he's always playing sports with kids, hugging kittens, performing miracles, or just hovering over people in some strange ethereal way. No one portrays him in committing the very same acts many Christians claim he would condone and perform in his name.

So lets' put it out there. Let's put a rifle in his hands and get Jesus Christ worked up about killing ‘skinnies', ‘ragheads’, ‘head-choppers’ and other various non-Christian foreigners and see if they're comfortable with it.
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Comments: 52

Mikeythecoyote2018 In reply to ??? [2018-12-01 22:06:53 +0000 UTC]

Little hint of advice to you "Christians" out there. Don't push your luck with spreading some word that makes no sense. Because you might think it's easy to convert us atheists to your dead god who we can't see or hear. If we dont want to accept your preachings.. then we don't want to hear the stuff that you claim to be true like 2,000 years ago since your Jesus died on the cross. You might think that because a false messiah died on a cross means that everything will change. We'll it's still happening. The war, the killing, the lies, etc. Can you explain how can a fake god loves his people if he doesn't want to help them when they need him, why he won't comfort us in our struggle, and why he won't save us? Explain that to me

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RuetheFox In reply to Mikeythecoyote2018 [2018-12-13 00:07:34 +0000 UTC]

Wow! I had completely forgotten about that comment! Oh well, that's fine!

Well yes, I understand some atheists are not willing to listen, and that's alright. For me personally, when I notice an atheist really doesn't want to discuss that sort of stuff, I don't really dwell on it or keep forcing it. There ARE some who take interest in it, so sometimes, I do introduce the topic, but if they make it clear they don't want to talk about it, I don't.
BUT, if there is someone directly provoking or starting the argument, like on the picture we are commenting on, then I do respond, but that would be a discussion more than anything else. I mean, if someone was attacking or bad mouthing one's best friend, most people would naturally defend them, which is exactly what I did. I'm not forcing anyone to believe in me or to talk back. That is entirely their choice.
Maybe I acted different in the past and forgot about it, as I do admit I was childish in the past, but I do understand things better now. 

Anyways, as for your question, I believe the best answer for it would be this video: 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GswSg2…

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shadowthehh [2011-09-06 21:44:20 +0000 UTC]

he's gunna be like,1,000,000x more of a badass when he comes back in the battle of armaggedon.

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ihni [2011-05-15 12:17:25 +0000 UTC]

This is ... highly inspirational. I think I like it.

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TheAntsaBoy94 [2010-08-04 08:43:00 +0000 UTC]

I know what is the point of this comic, but that wouldn`t be what Jesus would do.

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teosocrates [2010-06-12 18:46:59 +0000 UTC]

Great message. I'm having a contest with the theme Jesus + Harry Potter - hope you enter. Prize is $250.

DEVIANT: [link]
or
JPHC Website: [link]

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Patches67 In reply to teosocrates [2010-06-15 14:22:50 +0000 UTC]

I'll participate in this. But I gotta warn you, I can't think of any way to combine Jesus with Harry Potter without drawing people who are burning books.

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Zedereka [2010-04-29 10:22:10 +0000 UTC]

I have always found it funny how Jesus and God (any god for that matter) who have in their scriptures "Though Shalt Not Kill." Always have believers who go "This is what God wants!" and send soldiers out to kill people of different faiths or use them to justify a war.

I'm a Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) and I've always found it funny how a merciful God is used as an excuse to start a war. The Crusades are a good example of this and I'm sure the Islamic Extremists (note the EXTREMISTS not the normal followers of Allah) are another example.

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MemoirsofAnnandale [2010-01-13 18:07:02 +0000 UTC]

I don't think Jesus wouldn't be pro-death and pro-muslim death, but he'd want us to put a stop to the people who were ending lives.

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Mirsad77 [2009-10-11 13:26:39 +0000 UTC]

just plain awesome man!

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Ocaj [2009-10-02 21:17:16 +0000 UTC]

Right on the spot.

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Axel-Comics [2009-05-03 13:31:12 +0000 UTC]

ah,true.lol!

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Tarik94 [2009-05-02 20:41:34 +0000 UTC]

mmmm that's some good satire!

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JonathonOak [2008-12-20 16:20:59 +0000 UTC]

Sadly, all too true.

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kampfer777 [2008-12-07 09:04:35 +0000 UTC]

Jesus throwing up the horns? HELL YEAH!

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AteMozzarella [2008-08-07 13:34:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah it's disappointing how all Christians get a bad name for what crap a percentage of us get into. Both sides are at fault here.
The word is PEACE. Makes a lot of sense. Don't mind the dissers, it's their opinion, and at least you can understand can respect them, which is too much to say for THEM.

The other word is: ASSHOLES. The world's full of them. But there are a lot of good people too. thanks

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kimiko17 [2008-06-28 20:45:22 +0000 UTC]

I wonder how much crap you've gotten out of your little political comment. As for my opinion on this matter, I'd say, why don't you do some research on a couple of things before you verbally abuse us "rediculous"Christians:
how's about reading the good old glory? I'm not trying to convert you, dude, I'm just saying if you read the OT, there's plenty of war and suffering that goes on for God's plan for his people
second, you DO know that the reason we agree (partially at the least) with the war is to protect our OWN people and not the Al Queda who are trying to destroy every last BIT of the American population? Obviously not. Excuse me, I forgot, we just want the oil, that's it. Dang aren't we selfish?
third, do some research on Jesus himself. Sure he was kind and loved children and what-not, but he got pissed when people were abusing his fathers name, like when people turned the synogoge into a marketplace. He turned over tables and yelled to his hearts content because the people were so bluntly ignorant.
look, i agree there are a bunch of retard Christians out there who are a bunch of rediculous hypocrites, but there is also plenty of us who at least try not to be. Next time, don't just blatently accuse Christians of something you obviously don't understand.

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tripletrules [2008-01-26 23:04:46 +0000 UTC]

America is no longer a Christian nation. It is no longer the nation that was forged through divine protection under the 55 founding fathers. It is no longer the nation that taught the Gospel in it's schools. It is no longer that nation.

It is now a nation of the world. It supports not the word of God, but instead the hollow word of man. Do you really think George Washington would be impressed with the faith and lifestyles of even the vast majority of America if he were alive today? Do you think Jesus is impressed since He is alive today?

So while I understand and fully agree with this comic in the sense that Christ would not have supported killing OF ANYONE. I fail to agree with the rest of the comic in the sense that you are trying to make America look like a Christian nation. America is not a Christian nation. You can't just talk the talk, you also have to walk the walk. And trust me, America does not do that.

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Axel-Comics In reply to tripletrules [2009-05-03 13:44:36 +0000 UTC]

I don't think America was ever a Christian nation.Weren't the founding fathers all either deists,freemasons,atheists or Christians?They formed America as a secular nation because they were sick of Europes religious governments causing conflict all the time?

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tripletrules In reply to Axel-Comics [2009-05-07 20:47:16 +0000 UTC]

Would you like me to go on? Collecting Christian quotes and events from America's history is sort of a hobby of mine.

I have compiled a huge list of quotes from many different Founders.

My friend, America was a Christian nation.

On another note, I would like to revise my previous comment that you replied to. In it, I said:

>>Christ would not have supported killing OF ANYONE<<

This is wrong. War is different.

Many people make the mistake of believing the Bible says, “You shall not kill,” and seek to apply this command to war. However, the Bible actually says, “You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13). The Hebrew word literally means “the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice.” God often ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations (1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13). God ordered the death penalty for numerous crimes (Exodus 21:12; 21:15; 22:19; Leviticus 20:11).

So, God is not against killing in all circumstances, but rather only murder.


It was an error for me to say that Jesus was a pacifist. Jesus is not a pacifist. In a world filled with evil people, sometimes a war is necessary to prevent even greater evil.

If Hitler had not been defeated by World War II, how many more millions would have been killed?
If the Civil War had not been fought, how much longer would African-Americans have had to suffer as slaves?

We must all remember to base our beliefs of the Bible, not on our emotions (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

Ecclesiastes 3:8 declares, "there is…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace."

In a world filled with sin, hatred, and evil (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Some wars are more “just” than others, but all wars are ultimately the result of sin.

Christians should not desire war, but neither are Christians to oppose the government God has placed in authority over them (Romans 13:1-4; 1 Peter 2:17).

The most important thing we can be doing in a time of war is to be praying for godly wisdom for our leaders, praying for the safety of our military, praying for quick resolution to the conflict, and praying for minimum casualties on both sides of the conflict (Philippians 4:6-7).

But to emphasize, Jesus was not a pacifist. There are occasions where God supports the taking of life...

...but these are very few.

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Axel-Comics In reply to tripletrules [2009-05-08 09:03:44 +0000 UTC]

Interesting,I shall have to look into this more

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tripletrules In reply to Axel-Comics [2009-05-07 20:38:01 +0000 UTC]

––––– PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON –––––
(1.) “The reason that Christianity is the best friend of Government is because Christianity is the only religion that changes the heart.”
–Date uncertain.

(2.) “God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever; That a revolution of the wheel of fortune, a change of situation, is among possible events; that it may become probable by Supernatural influence! The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in that event.”
–Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781.

(3.) “Of all systems of morality, ancient of modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to be so pure as that of Jesus.”
–Letter to William Canby, 1813

(4.) “I hold the precepts of Jesus as delivered by Himself, to be the most pure, benevolent and sublime which have ever been preached to man...”
–Date uncertain.

(5.) “I have always said and always will say that the studious perusal of the Sacred Volume will make better citizens, better fathers, better husbands...the Bible makes the best people in the world.”
–Date uncertain.

(6.) “My views... are the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from the anti-Christian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines in preference to all others...”
–In a letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush, April 21, 1803. (The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, p. 385.)

(7.) “I am a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ. I have little doubt that our whole country will soon be rallied to the unity of our Creator.”
–Thomas Jefferson wrote this on the front of his Bible.

***While serving in the Virginia Assembly in 1774, Thomas Jefferson personally introduced a resolution calling for a Day of Fasting and Prayer.***


––––– PRESIDENT JAMES MADISON –––––
(1.) “We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.”
–1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia.

(2.) “I have sometimes thought there could not be a stronger testimony in favor of religion or against temporal enjoyments, even the most rational and manly, than for men who occupy the most honorable and gainful departments and [who] are rising in reputation and wealth, publicly to declare the unsatisfactoriness [of temporal enjoyments] by becoming fervent advocates in the cause of Christ; and I wish you may give in your evidence in this way.”
–Letter from Madison to William Bradford. (September 25th, 1773.)

(3.) “The belief in a God All Powerful, wise and good, is so essential to the moral order of the world and to the happiness of man, that arguments which enforce it cannot be drawn from too many sources nor adopted with too much solicitude to the different characters and capacities to be impressed with it.”
–Date uncertain.

(4.) “A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the Annals of Heaven.”
–Letter by Madison to William Bradford November 9th, 1772.

(5.) “It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive in it [The Constitution] a finger of that almighty hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical stages of the revolution.”
–Date uncertain.

***In 1812, President Madison signed a federal bill which economically aided the Bible Society of Philadelphia in its goal of the mass distribution of the Bible. It was approved by congress on February 2nd, 1813.***

***James Madison was the first to propose the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Bible, as he was reading Isaiah 33:22: “For the Lord is our JUDGE, the Lord is our LAWGIVER, and the Lord is our KING; He will save us.”***

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tripletrules In reply to Axel-Comics [2009-05-07 20:34:22 +0000 UTC]

In 1774, Hezekiah Niles, a British Governor, wrote to Great Britain about events in America in "Principles and Acts of the Revolution in America". In it he complained that: “If you ask an American, who is his master? He will tell you he has none, nor any governor but Jesus Christ.” This comment became well-known in the colonies, and the American rallying cry even became “No King but King Jesus.”

––––– PRESIDENT GEORGE WASHINGTON –––––
(1.) “What students would learn in American schools above all else, is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
–In a speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779

(2.) “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible. Do not ever let anyone claim to be a true American patriot if they ever attempt to separate Religion from politics.”
–September 17th, 1796

(3.) “Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to recommend to the people of the United States a "Day of Public Thanksgiving and Prayer", to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.”
–The first National Day of Thanksgiving, 1789.

(4.) “The thing that sets the American Christian apart from all other people in the world is, he will die on his feet before he'll live on his knees…”
–Date uncertain.

(5.) “The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained.”
–Inaugural Address, 1789.

(6.) “If I could have entertained the slightest apprehension that the Constitution framed by the Convention, where I had the honor to preside, might possibly endanger the religious rights of any ecclesiastical Society, certainly I would never have placed my signature to it.”
–Regarding the Constitution; wrote to the United Baptist Churches of Virginia, May 10, 1789.

(7.) “The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations.”
–Letter from Washington to Brigadier General Thomas Nelson, August 20, 1778.

(8.) “While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
–May 2nd, 1778, in an address to the Continental Army at Valley Forge.

(9.) “The General is sorry to be informed that the foolish and wicked practice of profane cursing and swearing, a vice hitherto little known in our American Army is growing into fashion. He hopes that the officers will, by example as well as influence, endeavor to check it and that both they and the men will reflect that we can little hope of the blessing of Heaven on our army if we insult it by our impiety and folly. Added to this it is a vice so mean and low without any temptation that every man of sense and character detests and despises it.”
–General George Washington, July 9, 1776

***During his inauguration, Washington took the oath as prescribed by the Constitution, but he also added several religious components to the official ceremony. Before taking his oath of office, he summoned a Bible on which to take the oath, and added the words “So help me God!” to the end of the oath, then leaned over and kissed the Bible.***

––––– PRESIDENT JOHN ADAMS –––––
(1.) “Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there contained! Every member would be obliged in conscience to temperance, frugality and industry: to justice, kindness and charity towards his fellow men: and to piety, love and reverence toward Almighty God....What a Utopia, what a Paradise would this region be.”
–Entered into his diary on February 22, 1756. (Diary and Autobiography of John Adams, Vol. III, p. 9.)

(2.) “We recognize no Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus!”
–On April 18, 1775, British Major Pitcairn ordered Adams, John Hancock, and others to disperse from Lexington in the name of George the Sovereign King of England. (The two of them, along with a group of about 70 others, were intentionally blocking a six company detachment of British light infantry that was headed towards Concord with the intention of capturing two essential bridges.) Adams and Hancock both responded to him with the above quote.

(3.) “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
–From an address he gave to the military on October 11, 1798.

(4.) “I have examined all religions, as well as my narrow sphere, my straightened means, and my busy life, would allow; and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more philosophy than all the libraries I have seen.”
–Letter to Thomas Jefferson, written December 25th, 1813.

(5.) “The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite....And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were United...Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System.”
–Letter to Thomas Jefferson, June 28, 1813.

(6.) “The Christian religion is, above all the Religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of Wisdom, Virtue, Equity, and Humanity. Let the Blackguard Paine say what he will; it is Resignation to God, it is Goodness itself to man.”
–John Adams retorting to Thomas Paine in his diary, July 26, 1796.

(7.) “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress.

(8.) “Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone, which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, they may change their rulers and the forms of government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”
–June 21, 1776. Only 23 Days before signing the Declaration of Independence.

(9.) “There is no such thing [morality] without a supposition of a God. There is no right or wrong in this universe without the supposition of a moral government and an intellectual and moral governor.”
–A marginal note written in Condorcet's 'Outlines of a Historical View of the Progress of the Human Mind'

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kekereke [2007-11-01 13:45:40 +0000 UTC]



tnx for this [link] but i dont feature propeace deviations at a time.perhaps i will later..sorry

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rainvine [2007-10-29 03:00:42 +0000 UTC]

I'm a Christian and I don't support war! = D
Nice.

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DarkDragonLady [2007-09-23 04:59:56 +0000 UTC]

I really like what your saying with this. It makes me so sad that some Christians that support the war would get all in a huff about this... Hhmm... Thou shalt not kill must not apply to them, I suppose. And as for the person who called your work sloppy, I'd love to see the detail they could put into this that you did oh so well. But oh well.

Great job, and I love the background.

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Patches67 In reply to DarkDragonLady [2007-09-23 22:03:27 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, that was a lot of work and I have a hard time with layout and backgrounds. I actually did a great deal of surfing to find the interior of a chinook helicopter to get the layout and colours right. The colours are not exact, they're cartoonish but I wanted people to recognize it right away in an obvious manner, and that's hard.

The last panel was easy, I started just a plain blue background with the helicopter cut and pasted on top, a photo clip of ruins pasted in the corner, added a blur effect to the blades and then airbrushed sand all over it. Came out great. I liked it so much I have a plain version of that panel with no words on it and saved it as a wallpaper. I can upload that if you'd like to se it.

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DarkDragonLady In reply to Patches67 [2007-09-23 22:12:52 +0000 UTC]

I would love to see it!

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ixat [2007-07-11 00:52:52 +0000 UTC]

Ha, I kinda had a similar idea, [link] .

Oh, and I hate to be a grammar Nazi, but in the last panel, it should be "whose name," not "who's."

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mr-nightstone [2007-03-17 15:09:50 +0000 UTC]

Intresting thought. You could say, though, that since Christ is supposed to be God, they might be making the connection to the Old Testament God, who basically went on mass-murder tirades that put Hitler to shame.

I don't see how all the Christians miss this, but the New Testament is one of the most ovious rebuttals to the notion of a "never-changing god."

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ffnovice789 In reply to mr-nightstone [2007-10-12 06:45:21 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps God found reason for transistasis; maybe he was "never-changing" extrinsically and changed according to His own Will, and no one else's. He could be steadfast and adaptive in His own right; you can have two different aspects that describe you and still not be conflicting; remember, opposite does not necessarily mean opposing, and contrasting does not necessarily mean contradicting.

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Aslan1 [2007-03-13 11:53:22 +0000 UTC]

I must admit, that i clearly get the message, and i LOVE the satir in the comic!

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Night-Hawk77 [2007-02-27 07:52:29 +0000 UTC]

I actually like this, and not because I'm not Christian but because it does portray alot. Because for one, if people deny it or not, this is a Holy War. People are on both sides of this, and this is one side very well portrayed. Good work.

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AxD [2007-02-27 07:47:30 +0000 UTC]


AWESOME!

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nekrobator [2006-11-12 06:16:00 +0000 UTC]

great stuff!!!

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AvSkyggene [2006-09-05 20:13:02 +0000 UTC]

WOW. This is a perfect response to the gung-ho Christians who think supporting their president in everything he does is right because he's of the same faith.

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ffnovice789 In reply to AvSkyggene [2007-10-12 06:40:44 +0000 UTC]

Correlation does not imply causation; just cuz someone is Christian doesn't mean you should follow him/her; s/he should follow YOU.

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Mirei-Hime [2006-08-28 21:11:15 +0000 UTC]

...Very true, it's sad that some *not all, I don't* so-called 'christains' think that way...
I honestly don't like the war, but I d support the troops who fight for
US's freedom without saying 'We're doing this in Jesus's name!'.
Oh yeah, and the art is good!

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DeepInsideMyMuerte [2006-05-25 13:41:08 +0000 UTC]

Awsome! good point too...

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zuzanny [2006-04-24 01:04:31 +0000 UTC]

As a Christian who very much DOES NOT support the war, I felt very angry toward those "Christians" who do, and would have the attitude that Jesus would approve of murdering and blowing up everything. I disagree that the image you have made Jesus to be would be the real one, but I also appriciate the satire/irony of the piece. I also enjoyed the cartooniness of it. I personally do not find this comic to be insulting to my beliefs, if anything it supports my understanding that Jesus would not be out there fighting, he would be working to bring peace to all sides involved.

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Patches67 In reply to zuzanny [2006-04-24 02:24:51 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for getting it. It was deliberately designed for a strong response. As yourself being a Christian who does not support the war, you do deserve to know there are masses and masses of people who call themselves Christian who do support the Iraq occupation. They've embraced the lies, they've turned a blind eye to the dead, and have repeatedly made the message, Jesus Christ would be totally cool with picking up a rifle and and make George W Bush's vision for the world happen, whether in Iraq or anywhere else. I'm not just pointing a finger at Americans. I live in Canada's bible and we have a mess of old school bigots in this town who go to church and openly pray "Dear Lord, please blast those #$%& ragheads and let the devil sort them out in hell!" I see it myself with those crazy bastards who stand on soap boxes and street preach at the flea market or the old downtown core.

I ran into these people all the time when I marched in protest against the war before the first bomb dropped on Baghdad. They called me a coward, a terrorist sympathizer, a devil worshipper, I fornicate with goats, etc etc. These same people kinda lay low when the war is not so popular or fun to support anymore, but when angered or cornered on the issue they will tell you they want the whole middle east blasted into radio active glass and said if George W Bush made it happen, then it's as good as the will of God.

What do YOU think of this? If you're offended by it, stand up and get pissed off. Let Christians know, and aim at the right target, don't pull this garbage in the name of my God.

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zuzanny In reply to Patches67 [2006-04-25 07:01:43 +0000 UTC]

One of the first things I did was stand up in my congregation (at the time) while we were having a big prayer meeting-thing about the war and pray into the microphone for the people who are doing the terrorising (on both sides). Quite a number of people were shocked that I would pray for their savlation instead of their doom, but really, they are still people! In my understanding "the terrorists" have been mislead as to what their own doctrine teaches, and they are angry that they are not getting their own way (amongst many other things).

I have since then been in numerous protests against the war, and have made it known to all around me that I do not support it at all. In fact I even managed to discourage my fiance from joining the army.

I have donated time and money into care for the victims (children) of this war and other countries.

I am also lucky enough to not live in the USA so I tend to see news about what is really happening instead of the accepted propaganda. I spoke to some of my US contacts when war first broke out asking what reasons they were given as to why the war was happeing, since here we were told there was none, and just about had my head bitten off for trying to get them to think.

I also support my fellow Christians who have gone into the danger zones to help the people - not to force any beliefs upon anyone, just to be there and help the people in any way they can.

One of the ways I look at the world is: I come from so many mixes of races (in my family background), that what right have I got to judge another person or look at them as anything other than fellow humans? (Dunno if this is making sence at all)

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zuzanny In reply to zuzanny [2006-10-23 04:16:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. *^.^*

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prurientmind In reply to zuzanny [2006-10-20 02:28:37 +0000 UTC]

I think you are now one of my favorite christians, even though I am basing that opinion entirely on this post.

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MinawaMiharu [2006-04-11 18:45:22 +0000 UTC]

Um i am a Christian and i do not feel that way about the war, but i completely understand the general meaning behind the comic. There are religious Christians and then there are ignorant secular Christians. Its clearly stated in both the Catechism (church doctrine) and by Christ's own message of loving your neighbor etc. Even Pope John Paul II told Bush when he visited that he did not support a war in Iraq and argued with Bush over it. The real difference between a religious person and a ignorant follower is a fanaticism that throughly twists the orginal message behind the religion. I understand everyone's need to express themselves but still feel like i cannot just sit here and look at it without saying that your cartoon really hurt my feelings.

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Patches67 In reply to MinawaMiharu [2006-04-13 00:13:02 +0000 UTC]

Well all the work that went into it, just to hurt ONE Christian's feelings really just wasn't worth it. There's almost ten hours in that cartoon including the research for colour, interiors, uniforms, etc etc etc. If I had like a dozen replies of American Christians calling me the devil incarnate and/or demand to have me banned then it would have been worth it. I have only myself to blame. Not enough traffic. Too tame. I'll try harder next time.

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MinawaMiharu In reply to Patches67 [2006-04-19 20:49:38 +0000 UTC]

My goodness you certainly have rage issues, ne? Sorry to tell you this but it looked like you only did that in two hours. =-_-= I don't think you are the devil though, just a crappy artist. I thought the message behind it was powerful but i guess no one has noticed it because of the poor quality. I know you are going for the toony look but i think it just came off as sloppy to me.

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Nickolie216 [2006-02-23 18:23:31 +0000 UTC]

Everything a christin does is supposed to be what they think Jesus would do... so ya, your comic really MUST show what some of them think... kinda sad..

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davidfoxfire [2006-02-23 06:33:56 +0000 UTC]

And somewhere in Red America, an Internet Router gets blown up to the tune of "Unholsome Death to Deviant Art!"

I'd put up a j/k at the end, but with all the flack they make over the Mohammad with a cartoon bomb turbain on his head, I'm really not sure.

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Patches67 In reply to davidfoxfire [2006-02-23 07:06:17 +0000 UTC]

I was thinking they might got the other way and totally embrace the image as portraying Christ the way they want him to be portrayed. An M16-toting wrathful avenger leading blessed marines into a righteous battle. A god-blessed heathen-slaughtering holy war to forever rid the world of those who do not honour his name.

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