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Published: 2012-01-06 13:08:03 +0000 UTC; Views: 39086; Favourites: 3189; Downloads: 869
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As has been requested, I'll say it right here; I did not draw this. I will not claim that I did, nor did I make any of the resources visible in the finished piece. I did however make the brushes I used to apply certain effects.Just a little something I made to use as a login BG. Enjoy!
I know it's nothing impressive, but I couldn't think of anything else to add.
Render: Stocking (From PS+G) - Cut by +Solitary
Original Picture (From which Stocking was rendered): Fly Away by Murakami/ζδΈ
Original Background Stock: Daniel K.
If any proof of either the render or stock are needed then I can cite what I know. I did not render Stocking myself, it was already done.
Edit: Amazing, I never thought this many people would see, let alone like this wallpaper! A huge thank you to everyone who clicked to look,
'd, commented, or were in any way affected by this piece. 
I'm currently in the process of obtaining written permission from the original artist (The one who drew the picture of Stocking before it was rendered) so those who wish for that permission will have it. Please wait patiently as I will.
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Comments: 281
I'm glad that you like it so much :3 Thank you!
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Glad to hear you like it
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Hmm.....i've been through some of your comments and apparently ppl are making a big fuss over this....and they shouldn't because at least you stated right from the beginning that you didn't draw Stockings unlike others who steal art and claim it as their own.
Apparently nowadays dA went downhill and it's full of thieves and porn(wich some call it nudes and others call it art).Anyway i like the overall result and i think you did a great job.I,one,
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I'm glad that another true fan of art has stumbled upon my humble work. Thank you for your supportive words, and I'm very, very glad to hear that you like it.
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*looks closely* Y'know, I can see where you're coming from there
Thank you very much
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I don't think you get it. If the renderer stole this work, then you did too. You didn't not steal it just because the other person says they had permission.
Even so, this art belongs to that artist on Pixiv, not the renderer. So someone made the background transparent. That doesn't mean the image belongs to them, and it doesn't mean you're allowed to upload it here.
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Prove that the render was made without permission then.
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No, it is YOU who should prove that the render was used with permission.
Links and disclaimer from the original artist, not just talking please.
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I have my proof, and have presented what I can. Apparently that's not good enough for trolls, so I tell them to get over themselves and stop making a big deal about it. If it really comes down to it, and the staff of dA wish it taken down, then it will be. But for annoying little comments like your own? Bah, humbug.
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Missed my point.
This is not your work, nor the renderer's work. Therefore it is not allowed. If the renderer got written permission, that doesn't mean you get it too.
You obviously don't take this seriously, otherwise you'd have put all the necessary things in the artist's comments. Instead you're sitting here having to defend yourself because you blatantly broke the rules.
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How is this not my work? I compiled it, therefore this particular image is considered my work. The resources aren't mine, nor did I say they were. When I first found this render, it was posted with "free-use, with or without credit" as the condition - I took this as an OK.
I broke no rule.
I defend myself because annoying trolls like you tend to come in and try to prove a point that doesn't apply.
I dislike people like you because all you ever do is cause trouble, that and you fail to read what has already been posted.
I never intended for this to be popular, let alone as popular as it is, I only posted it on the recommendation of a friend of mine who saw and liked it as it was set as my Login Background.
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Telling the rules β trolling.
You don't have written permission from the ORIGINAL ARTIST so therefore it is AGAINST THE RULES.
It doesn't matter if the renderer said it's free-use, btw. They didn't draw it.
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Nobody seems to get it.
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you seem to be the one that doesn't get it.
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Explain how I don't.
I've put forward my knowledge on the use conditions of the resources used.
Apparently that's not enough.
Your turn to prove I'm not allowed.
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You must obtain written permission from the proper and legal owner of any work which you wish to use, credit alone does not replace this requirement.
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Oh for gods sake.
The render itself was classified as a free-use one. The renderer is a well-respected one, therefore I assumed the fact that She'd obtained permission herself. I can assume whatever I like, and I won't allow someone like you to try change that.
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okay.
FAQ #306: Does "Crediting" let me use whatever I want?
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That wasn't what I meant.
Read through all the comments like a good troll.
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Just for the record, I agree with you. Everyone saying you stole it is absolutely ridiculous.Β
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Thank you, I'm glad to hear it. Still no reply from the original artist either, despite numerous attempts to contact them (both directly and indirectly).
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I wouldn't worry about it. I've had problems like that before. Either the artist doesn't really care or they don't check whatever you have tried to contact them by.
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Thank you very much ^_^
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Thank you so much!
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You're welcome!
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Glad to hear you like it
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...your art is a bit misleading, I thought u made this, you should link the origional image in ur comment, and I wonder should u have the artists permission.....
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Again, this has already been covered.
I used a render made from the original piece. It was rendered by +Solitary, not by me. This is stated in the description, as is the fact that I did not draw it.
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The bright colours are very beautiful
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Glad to hear you like them
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OMG! I love it The color are so bright and looks very fluffy (also soft!) What Program do you use? Its really adorable
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Thank you very much! Glad to hear you like it ^_^
I use Adobe Photoshop CS5 Extended Edition, as well as the Topaz Labs plugins, and sometimes I implement a tiny spot of GIMP'ing into some of the works. Sometimes Apophysis, though not too often.
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Deviantart policy states that you can't post artwork by another person by simply "crediting them"
You need their written consent.
ORIGINAL IMAGE: [link]
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Obviously this piece has gotten quite an array of comments due to the fact the original art is not yours.
Technically, I don't think the problem centers with you or your piece. If you were to go to the origin of the argument the problem is renders like the one you've used. Whilst renders are brilliant for creating pieces such as yours, often the people who make renders simply take an artists hard work and make it transparent for others use. In this case (as in many) the render was made without permission and doesn't even give credit to the original artist. Because of this your work (however beautiful it may be) is seen in an I'll light by others due to the fact that it (in a way) supports the use of renders that violate artists rights.
My advise is that next time you use a render to try and check it's origins. Also, I don't believe anyone is intent on outing down your artistic ability, this is really nice, it's just not "right" to use such a piece is all.
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I'd like to put forward a simple matter of opinion.
The original maker of the render pack I got the Stocking pic from is very well respected in the circles he works in. I can no longer cite his exact name due to data loss caused by computer crashes and HDD corruption, but I remember he was from SigResource, and in the details 'twas said that all renders were legit, and allowed to be used. I trust in that, and I went on that information when I uploaded this. As I've said before, I will never be called a thief, because I am not one. Should that render be proven as stolen, then I will (grudgingly) remove this piece. Also, in all honesty, I think the rendering itself was a pretty simple process, considering the original was simply the same on a dark, bland background. I like to make my art in this style, and I will happily abide by the rules set in place to prevent the thievery of art.
I just get very tired of people who come on here to troll and say "Oh, he didn't draw this" or "THIS ISN'T ART" or, my most hated one, "This is stolen." Until it's proven, I will not stand for people calling this stolen. I make my own type of art in the style I wish to. I will not stand for any insulting words put forward about me. I can understand and respect Comments and Criticism, but the majority of the comments posted were outright hostility. If you don't like the style, close the tab, click back, whatever. Just don't sully the comment section with your own discriminatory comments.
In essence; I respect where you're coming from, but from the research I'd done before, this piece is legit. I've removed it as a print because I myself do not have written permission to sell anything including the stocks or render, therefore it would be a violation of dA's TaC. I'd like everyone to understand this, and respect what I say as well.
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In response to this (and I apologize if you dislike the small font, I use it a lot as I tend to type paragraphs) if it ever seemed like I was taking a stab at you or accusing you of any wrong doing, those were not my intentions at all. I don't hate this work, nor do I think you intentionally set out to violate anybodies artistic rights or DA's rules (I know my wording wasn't too great so I can understand that confusion). I will warn that seemingly legit or not, it's best not to assume anything, ESPECIALLY when it comes to renders (but I'm sure you're well and truly aware of that) I'm also aware that for your art type it would just be too hard to locate the original owner of each picture to ask for permission (heck, its near impossible)
The thing that most people get iffy about (and it's not your fault AT ALL) is that when pictures like yours reach the front page, most people ASSUME that you drew the picture. This is a very (let's admit) bad habit on DA, but it is matter of fact. That then lands you with messages like the "stolen" you hate (which is perfectly understandable) because people feel as though you've taken credit for the picture (in this case of Stocking). Whilst you've typed more info in your description about this I can perfectly understand WHY it infuriates you to get these messages, but please understand when you post this art form these comments are quite common (I'm not saying they're by any means right). Like all art, you risk comments such as these when you post it.
As I said, I'm not out to get you, and I guess I may be pointing out the obvious to you, but my main purpose for the first message was really to back you up (an ill attempt admittedly) I was trying to point out to others that whilst they were labeling you as a "theif" the thing they were labeling as stolen was the render, which was not to (and remains not to be) knowledge stolen (and may not be)
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(smile of understanding)
I apologise for my outburst before, and I'm glad that you set out to rephrase what I'd misunderstood. Thank you for clearing that up, and I've got to say, it is actually quite good to see so many different views on the art itself, the art style, the render and stock origins, the dA Community's view on each of those three, and the combination of the aforementioned.
Again, thank you for clearing that up, I'm glad to see that not all are blind to the fact I try to get across.
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No problem. I didn't want to leave you feeling as though there was "just another hater" on your comments board. As I said, it's a nice piece, and despite people's comments this IS a legit art form. What seems simple takes skills in composition and knowledge in programs\ways to harness resources (among other things), so it can't even be classified as an "easy" art form when done right (and clearly you did it right).
I admit, I'm not a fan of renders (as the rant in my journal states) but as I said in my last reply the issue of the art being used isn't your fault and you have done your best to point this out to people.
DA's views can be very mixed. I usually don't get involved with such "drama" on this site because most of the time it's just someone looking for an easy way to the top (I know you're not). And your right, it can be interesting to learn the views of this community (:
Anyway, best of luck with your future pieces, I hope they run with less drama than this piece!
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I'm sure you deserve more than this, but again Thank you!
The best of luck with your own pieces as well, they're certainly very good
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WAH!! Thank you SO much!
That's certainly MORE than I deserve
Thank you β₯
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It's no trouble, and you certainly deserve it ^α΄^
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