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Full Title: DA Stamp - Sexualities are not Personalities
You are more than welcome to place this stamp in your journal/shoutboard/etc. You don't have to ask.
Products with this phrase can be found in one of my online shops: [link]
This is my attempt at discouraging stereotypes, as they are not only frustrating, but can be quite judgmental as well.
Although there is nothing wrong with loving sports, not every heterosexual male does. Just like not every homosexual male loves shopping, not every heterosexual female is a princess, and not every homosexual female is butch. A person's sexuality does not determine his or her general interests.
The only thing it really says about someone is the gender(s) the person is attracted to. It doesn't say how they will love someone; if they will love someone; how devoted they are; how promiscuous they are; that they do or do not care about consent; the activities they will participate in; or many other things people seem to assume about someone just from knowing one fact about them. Those are based on the individual's personality; something that varies among many groups of people, no matter their sexuality, ethnicity, or age.
Don't believe me? I'm reasonably sure that if you were to approach a group of people, even if it's a group of people with similar interests or backgrounds, and asked them a few questions (about 10), they will not agree on everything. And that's only a small group with a few questions. Now imagine a large group of people and every possible opinion and interest they could possibly have. It's rather overwhelming, isn't it?
Edit: This also includes asexuality, bisexuality, pansexuality, transsexuality ( I know it's not a sexuality, but it's LGBT related ), and any other sexuality out there. I only mentioned the main ones that are usually discussed in the example, but I believe it stands for all of them.
Others of This Series:
Ethnicities are not Personalities
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True this. I know someone who's gay and one of the last things they'd want to do is shopping.
And the last thing I'd want to be is a princess :/
What the hell is with people and stereotypes anyway
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Some people just can't understand the fact that not all girls that have short hair and wear t-shirts and jeans are homosexual. I am completely straight and people seem to take me for a lesbian :/
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True but
"SMOL GAY WHO IS VERY GAY AND LOVES GAY" is all the rage on dA
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I'm okay with pretty much anyone, and the people I'm not okay with are the types who death-threat and stupid shit.
Now if someone gets right in my face and yells about being smol and gay and stuff, I'll get annoyed.
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example
person: *is gay undertale trash*
me: *is having a perfectly normal day on the internet*
person: *gets in my face* HELLO IM GAY UNDERTALE TRASH
me: ok idc??
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The idea might be not as far away as it seems, but its wrong considered how people act. How? Easy.
Punks like Punk-rock. While i am sure that not all Punks do like it, most of them does.
Thats enough. Anyone know that there always people who are different. But that still mean that any punk get judged "to hear Punk music" until he tells otherwise.
Same with Sexuality.
As i know people from nearly all sexualities (no asexuality so far) i can safely say that a sexuality is a Personality. I can only guess that comes from hormones but in the end people of one group are much more likely to being their clichee than someone that has not the sexuality of it. It is only natural and no big deal. And... its totally nothing wrong.
You see someone with a weapon, black coat and scars? ---> That guy is dangerous! Better stay away...
A guy eating a salad in some fast-food shop while all his friends eat some meat? ---> vegetarian, right!?!
A girl dressing like a guy and acting like one too? ---> She is bi or homo, isnt she? Oh now you say no, arent you?
It is more likely that a girl dressing like that is that way. Much more then a "girly" girl. A guy with a black coat and a weapoin is far more likely to be dangerous and our salad guy is also far more likely to be vegetarian. That does not mean they are what we think, but only they more likely to. Same is with the connection of personality.
A sexuality is one of the big influences of personality. I would even go as far as saying "the biggest one". Its not the only one, and that is the reason why a guy can be totally girl-like if all the other influences go into that direction. Its very likely s\he is as his sexuality would suggest, but its not always that way. And there is a big greyzone in between. Most people are not 100% their sexuality but only 40-80% of "their gender". Or or or.
Also there are many characteristica traits, that are much more likely for one or the other sexualities.
And even if you still say i am wrong, the next time you go trough the street, you will see someone and in your head instantly think.
"He is that, and because of that acts that way." Its natural and often right.
Everyone has the same rights, every sexuality or personality. And its not bad to think about someone "is like that." even if its wrong.
You need only to be open to change your mind about a person, if that person gives you a reason too. (By acting different.)
I know sexualites are a very problematic topic, but please do not misjudge "individualism" with that. Anyone can be totally different to what they are born.
But that does not mean that the mass also works that way.
I dont mean it bad, i dont judge anybody as better or worse. I just say...we are different, nature maked us that way that there are different genders.
So accepting that, we can start to think of it a different way.
You stamp would be more right "Sexualites are just one of many factors for Personality" even if its the important one. Thats what i think.
So... Have a nice day!
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It's interesting that you took the time to type this long comment and yet no one has responded. Your comment may be a few months old, but I feel that you deserve a response, so I'll give you one.
Your position interests me, because of the way you approached the stamp. You weren't rude in any way and you took the time to type out all of your thoughts in detail, and yet something is still amiss with your argument. You made a few comparative assumptions; "Punks like Punk-rock", "weapon, black coat and scars...dangerous", "guy eating a salad...vegetarian", and "girl dressing like a guy and acting like one...bi or homo", but then you admit that all of these assumptions could very easily be incorrect. Firstly, lets just forget about "Punks like Punk-rock". If I understand you correctly, punks like punk-rock BY DEFINITION, so no assumption is being made. The other three examples though are assumptions admittedly similar to the assumption that a feminine male is homosexual. The assumptions could all be incorrect, but you claim that it doesn't matter. I claim that you are correct in many of the claims you have made, but not in relation to this stamp. Statistically speaking, homosexual men and women may be more likely to be effeminate and masculine respectively, and effeminate men and masculine women may be more likely to be homosexual, but does that alter the definition of homosexual? Of course it doesn't. The definition of homosexuality (or any other sexual orientation) is completely devoid of personality traits or stereotypes. I think that THAT is the point of this stamp. One can be gay without having to "act gay" and one can "act gay" without being gay. You can say that their is a strong correlation between the two, and I would agree, but the validity of this stamp still stands. Sexualities may affect personalities, but they are not, themselves, personalities. This isn't much of a debate, because I feel like we agree on most things, but its interesting none-the-less.
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Hello, and thank you for answering to my comment.
Yes, i was a little suprised that i got no answer until now.
Hm, i think not agreeing with something does not mean i need to be rude about it. Honestly,
i think one of the biggest problems of the world is that we can´t talk civilzed about stuff we dont like or so.
And that also includes many who would consider them "open minded".
Also, i totally accept everybody and do not care about the sexuality, religion
or whatever other people have problems with. As long as they live peaceful of course.
To the point of the talk, i think we are really have the same view on that, Its just a thing of
"details" here. Starting with that, i can say i agree with your whole answer, as i think
that there is never a "working stereotype" for anyone. I even think that there are a few,
even if very rare, punks who really hate punk-rock.
For me the problem with that stamp is the same as with many "over-individualized"
things. While i agree that sexuality isn´t the same as personality,
(And this way agreeing with the stamp, i am aware of that), it is no that way for the People.
We cannot just look onto the stamp and judge it by itself, but by everything around it,
given that, this stamp does not work. Because the people who are here for example will
be to a high amount part of that group, they see it "like the stamp".
But when they go to a street, see a guy in black coat with scars or some guy who
eats only salad while the others eat meat in a restaurant and they will think in the
"cages" that we always do.
How can you say "dont judge us by our sexuality" when you always judge others
by different but even less important things like clothing, look or how they act?
From a "nature" view on that, its totally normal to think about a tomboy girl for example
as a lesbian. Its the same as you will do with everyone for everything they do
or look. This happens to us more or less with everybody wer ever see.
Its important to our survival, because the only way we know a person is dangerous
is that we judge him/her that way. And on other cases its a way to find friends
or people with same interests. Someone buys a Star wars Magazine?
Maybe you can talk with him about you Star wars hobby! Sure, that can be wrong,
if that person is buying it from someone else, but still you will think first that he
is in fact a star wars fan, just because he buys some piece of paper.
Thats why i am not agree witht hat stamp. Because here people say to me
"dont judge us because of it" but doing it themself all the time with others.
(Its honestly a thing everybody will do, its just how we work, for good or worse.)
So yes, as you said, the definition of every sexuality is devoid of personality traits,
but it will never work that way in real life. People will always have a view on it.
Thats just in our nature. And its not a bad thing itself, the bad thing would be to
give people no chance to show who they are, or even worse, thinking bad about
them just because what we think they are.
So...to get it short, i agree with everything you wrote. But i think because of the
way humans work, (Judging as a natural thing that you do whenever you see
someone, hear something from him or even read what he writes. )
this stamp is not right for me. While i think its right, its just not the way how
humans ever will work, and a re-write with a little different message.
(And the same meaning.) would be better. But thats just my opinion.
PS: If you answer, i just want you to know that i am away for a unknown time
from deviantart because of friends who need my help. So said, i cannot say
when i can answer then. Also i want you to know that my english isn´t native
so maybe there are things in the text that aren´t intended to be written that
way and might sounds wrong or something. So...just if that happens, it wasnt
intended. And i hope you understand what i did mean with what i wrote,
it was a little hard for my to write this under time pressure and still explain
what i mean..
Have a nice day!
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First off, I'd like to thank you. It isn't often that I find someone willing to be so thorough in their arguments. Usually I'm the one typing a wall of text. It's refreshing.
The problem with that stamp is the same as with many "over-individualized" things.
Today, such topics as sexuality, gender, and romantic orientation have become extremely "individualized" as people become more and more specific in how they group and distinguish themselves from others. For the sake of this discussion, I am going to assume that we are only talking about the most inclusive sexual orientations; heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality, with hetero and homo being the most significant in terms of stereotypes and assumptions, at least in the main stream. Contrary to what you claim, I believe that your interpretation of the stamp is actually more "individualized" than the artist's intended message. Personalities, by definition, are more personalized/individualized than definitions. Based on your definition of what it means to be homosexual, cultural connotations and assumptions included, a large portion of homosexuals are excluded. The only trait that unites all homosexuals is same-gender sexual attraction. Nothing else. Not personality traits, not behavior, not gender, not sex, etc. In that way, this stamp couldn't possibly be any less individualized.
How can you say "don't judge us by our sexuality" when you always judge others by different but even less important things like clothing, look or how they act?
This is where you lose me. As far as I can tell, everything you say after this is correct. Its natural for people to make assumptions. Its an evolutionary adaptation that has helped us to survive for millions of years. You can't expect people not to make judgments or assumptions, because its in our nature. But why, I ask you, shouldn't we challenge those assumptions and judgments once they've been made? Is it right to let them solidify in our minds? Should our initial assumptions and judgments dictate the way we think of people after we meet and get to know them? Should stereotypes and the assumptions of others dictate how we should act and behave? I think that you are correct in many ways, but that you still have no basis to reject this stamp as it is. I believe that you see things clearly as they are, but not the message that this stamp conveys. We can't prevent people from making assumptions and judgments, but we can and should challenge those assumptions as a general rule, especially when our assumptions are incorrect a good portion of the time. Sometimes, the dots are there but they don't need to be connected. This can apply to any assumption or stereotype, not just sexuality.
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Nothing to thank for here. Its just that i guess that you and me have opinions
because we have them instead of just writing what others did write.
Most people are not interested enough to have an own opinion at all.
They just like or dislike.
Its true, we living in an extremely individualized time right now, and that itself is a great thing.
But it also means that life got more complicated in things where 50% of humanity
already hade a problem with more then heterosexuality. But later to that.
It might be true that the artist didnt mean it that way, sadly i guess there will never be an
answer to that from that person. oo
Any yes you have right, the only thing all homosexuals have in common is the sexual
attraction. As said, i totally on the same side in that. But as you write,
we cannot prevent people from making assumptions and judgements.
I just would add we cannot change stereotypes at all.
An here is where in my opinion is the difference.
You surely can change the assumption and judgement from people openly, but
deep in them, it is impossible. Is just a natural thing that you always use,
even in the smallest part of social life you have. You can change an assumption,
but not the fact that people have one over everything they not know for sure.
Its like you doing it yourself even about our topic. You surely make one or another
assumption only because of what i write. And vice versa.
It starts from the assumption that from what you read from me, i cannot be an troll,
up to things where some people in your position would assume my gender, sexuality
and age just because of what i wrote.
Same for me. I think you are an open, friendly and, wich is rare, really self-reflecting Person.
You try to see things from different views and want to change the world into a better place.
Sure you could now say that or this might be not true but
in the end its likely that in the most cases i will be right, even if that means 51% or i will
change my assumptions to match how reality is the next time.
But here is the point. There is no way to challenge these assumptions itself,
because they are there and even if people say they wont judge anyone after it,
they always will UNTIL the point where they meet them and instead of assume
or judge then will know how the person is for example.
Because if we just challenge assumptions we end up in fight a burning forest only
with 1 bucket of water. And also, a big part of all the humans that exist will not be
very open for such things. I might be more open for accepting all people, no matter
their sexuality. But you surely know.... many people are not.
If you would challenge assumptions, these people would even get more aggressive
in anti-movements and so on. See the US, how could you imagine that in a country
that just decided to accept homosexuality , trump can even getting that many votes?
Its like Feminism these days. While the idea behind it was a good one, its just
did drive into hell right now. Instead of improving the rights for woman, many
of them (the loudest at least) scream how bad all men are, we schoud go die
and so on. I did not need to say...they got more enemies than friends this way.
We Humans are different, totally different. And we will never have an "total open
minded society". At least i cant imagine that in the time we are now. Who knows.
But because of that, even more because of all the individualism that is now added
to what we think we are, we dont need to change our way of think about others.
We need to change only how we act and react. Its okay to assume things.
But its not okay to act like it is true and even if it is, you need to act nice and polite,
whatever your opinion might be about it.
I do not harm an person when i think that person is hetero/homo/boy-ish/girl-ish
or whatever, as long as you do not act like it to them, tell them or let them know
another way for example.
So at all... we want to see the same thing done. Just that you want to change
the stereotype way of thinking while i want to change the point of acting.
Also i would like to add that i am sorry fo rthe late answer, i have so much to do.
And its honestly complicated for me to write my way of thinking in english,
i cannot really explain it as well as in my mother language. Not even close.
I am sorry that it is so long and strange written X_x.
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Im the most goddamn manly tomboy... IM A DUDE PUT IN A GIRL'S BODY... IM SERIOUS
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true, I'm a homosexual male who likes feminine things (shopping, cloths, art, music) and don't like cars or sports (well I like driving a car, and playing sports, but not watching them) and even have a princess cosplay.
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Is it that bad on Tumblr?
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I would say it's worse here tbh
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It honestly is.
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Give me an example...
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im gonna throw myself on the hotplate since it is pretty big on my profile.
so... me.
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*SCREAMS THIS LOUDLY AT THE MLP/KH FANDOMS*
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? Oh, you're talking about the over analyzers, right? Heh, they can be annoying
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Not really? I mean, that can be annoying, I mostly mean when they reduce a character to just their sexuality.
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Yeah, that's annoying too :/ I mean the people who look into it too much and try to match the mane six to lgbt stereotypes
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according to my mom gay people have a certain face
so according to my mom gerard way has "gay face" which automatically makes him gay, she said.
gay people do not have a certain face or personality. straight people do not have a certain face or personality. nobody needs to have a certain face or personality to determine their sexuality.
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But they are an important part of it. My submissive orientation makes a lot of who I am.
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Even though I'm asexual, I still care about appearances and I wanna be cute ^V^
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Thank you so much.
I wish sexualities would stop being used like accessories already.
You wouldn't say a male dog mating a female dog would have a heterosexual personality would you? Of course not. The same goes for a homosexual dog, or a homosexual human. It's just something that happens, or is a feeling, not a personality like being shy.
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Try telling that to the teenagers and elitist morons on Tumblr who are on the social justice bandwagon. Hell, they're always putting down heterosexual (and non-transgender) folks and putting people on the lgbt spectrum on a damned pedestal. They also seem to like using noun-self pronouns like starself as some fashion statement. Why did this shit have to become trendy?
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Indeed. Straight tomboys exist, as do femme lesbians, "macho" gay men, sensitive and artistic straight men, and everyone in between (bisexual tomboy here!). People in reality are complex individuals, and their personalities are not dictated by their sexualities.
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I FEEL
I am far from butch.
alotta straight girls are more tomboyish than me, jeez its just a preferance XD
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I'm kind of tired of kids using sexualities as their like main personality detail... It's like the first thing you see on their page is "gay lord" LIKE WHY DOES THAT MATTER? YOUR SEXUALITY DOESN'T DEFINE YOU IN THE SLIGHTEST, WHY PARADE IT AROUND LIKE A FASHION STATEMENT?
>n> disgusting. It invalidates the sexuality to me. It's sad that these kids are so pathetic they have to use their sexualities to make themselves sound cooler.
I know this stamp doesn't really relate to that, but to me it does. I wish there was a stamp about what I just stated.
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do you get some kind of pleasure from being mean to minors on the internet lmao
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him: your sexuality isn't the most important thing about you, don't act like it is
you: omg ur beng meen to minors on the internet you must be getting off to this
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sm ppl like Expressing their sexuality and it's important to them, ex: stating they're a gay lord on their page. chill
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This kid missing the entire point. I think you're confusing objectification with expression.
Being gay is okay, being a faggot tumblrette extremist who literally FOCUSES THEIR ENTIRE PERSONALITY AROUND THEIR SEXUALITY is a problem.
You've seen em' "I'm gay trash also I'm fucking asexual ponyromantic LOOK AT MY TUMBLR AND MY FLOWER CROWNS. ALSO CALL ME HIM ALTHOUGH I'M A FEMINIST AND MEN ARE EVIL. LOL RAD"
AKA, one of the many forms of cancer killing the internet. The same retards who made Atheism plus and gamer gate a big fuckin deal.
All they're doing is polarizing sexualities; not helping the fight for equality or to be taken seriously. It's the SAME thing kids did with "emo". Attention getting, meanwhile the people suffering are being made to look silly by said attention seeking.
Kid, you're the one who needs to chill. Or don't you took the fuckin' bate.
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