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Phoenix-Cry — Female Piebald Ball Python
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I got a female to go along with my male! I'm going to breed them next season!Related content
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So pretty. I LOVE pieds.
You know....if your breedings produce pieds, you'd have something that would get you a LOT of trade credit with me for jewelry work.
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Ah! A fellow ball python lover! Well my breedings will get pieds one way or another! This coming season I'll be doing a pastel het pied to a full pied, and a full pied to two 66% hets (one mojave, one pewter). So next year chances are a little on the low side, but the year after that I'll be doing my two pieds together and that clutch will be 100%. I'll keep you updated, and of course there will be pics of hatchlings here!
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Any chance you might eventually work with pinstripe pieds? I've been wanting to see someone try it. Pastel Axanthic Pinstripe Pieds. Oooh! 
And I adore ball pythons, but I'm waiting for just the right ones. No albinos or normals for me. They take up just enough time and space that I want to be picky and get one (or maybe a pair) that I really LOVE the looks of. Until then, I'll stick with kings, milks, corns and rats, which take smaller tanks (mostly) and much simpler setups.
[mine are all perfectly happy right now with room temps around 72+, and I know I'll need heat and such for pythons. So the python has to be special enough to be worth the trouble.]
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I don't have any current plans for a pinstripe, however I *do* have plans for a panda pied if my pewter 66% het pied proves to be het for pied and gives me two cinamon pieds you can bet yer bottom dollar that I'll be trying for panda!
Have you seen a Mojave pied? Also called white gold. If my female mojave 66% het pied proves out I'll have mojave pied next year!
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I was under the impression that you needed super pastel het pied to get panda?
Sounds cool on the Mojave pied - can you direct me to a pic of one?
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Nope, a panda is a super cinnamon pied. If you go to kingsnake classified and put in white gold in the search you'll see one
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Not according to the guy who made the first one. I've got a link somewhere (I'll try to find it) with him holding it and explaining how he bred it.
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There are two ways, super cinnamon, or super *black* pastel.
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Ah. That explains it. I'd only heard of the Super Black Pastel recipe. So someone has produced another, using cinnamon?
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Super cinny are almost identical to supper black pastel
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I'd wondered how similar the genetics were, but I haven't really delved into BP genetics much yet. We do need more pandas, seriously....
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The odds of hitting a panda pied are so low!
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Hmm. I think the real trick is to have enough cash that you can search out the pied recessive Supers from as many lines as you can get your hands on, especially females. Then just breed like crazy. I am sorta wondering what the results of a Panda X Panda breeding would be? To be honest, I don't know enough about the behavior of the genes in question, but it would be neat if you get at least 50% pandas out of a pairing like that.
I figure if I get really patient, in 5 to 10 years pandas will be down under the price of a nice car.
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A Panda x Panda would give you 100% panda pieds because they would get a copy of each recessive gene from each parent. When you do a black pastel het for pied times a black pastel het for pied you get a 1 in 16 chance of a panda pied in each egg which is why they are so rare (same goes for albino pied).
Here, this will help you with the genetics: [link]
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Sweet. Sounds like with the $$ they go for, the best investment strategy would be to breed a panda, and find a way to buy the one that has already been done. If you got lucky on gender, you'd have the cash for any project you wanted to work on pretty soon.
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I do not think that snake is for sale... 
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Nah, I don't think so either. Having been sold once, I doubt it would make sense for the current owner to let go of it.
Having just image searched to refresh my memory, if you want to end up with a bunch of commission credit, put me on the list for a pewter, mojave or cinnamon pied, but only if you get ones that have more than just head pattern. For some reason, I really like the 50/50 pied look best. I know a lot of folks like the spider pied because the pattern is just on the head, or they go for the ones with only a couple spots of color, but I like them with about 50/50 color to white. I do wish I could find someone doing pinstripes or pinstripe pieds who wanted to trade. Not being broke would be good too.
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Mojave, and cinnamon pieds have color on their body, pewter have just patter on their head. Keep in mind though that both of those snakes run 4,000 in cash, and 5,000 in trade....
I'm not sure I've seen a pinstripe pied. Do you have a pic?
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Hmm. So I'm now wondering what the pewter colored pied was that I found marked pewter pied... It definitely had body markings, but didn't look dark enough to be axanthic.
I've seen a pinstripe pied in person at a show, but I can't seen to find a good photo. Basically pinstripe markings with the usual blurring at the boundary of the white areas. The one I saw was probably on 40% white and looked fantastic.
And I do actually know what price range the Pieds run in. That's why I'm offering trade, because I'm not likely to end up with that kind of cash any time soon. And it still hinges on you producing one I really like.
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That's odd, here's pewter pied: [link]
A axanthic pied would be worth around 15,000.
I was mentioning their price cause I was hoping you'd send me a link to some of your higher end stuff.
I won't be producing anything for at least a year, maybe 2-3 years so it's all academic right now.
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Strange. Now I need to go find that pic again and figure out what in the blazes that morph was. I've seen pics of the axanthic pieds, and this was too pale...Maybe axanthic pastel?
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Well a pastel of any sort wouldn't have pied white spots. Very straong.
Can't wait to see the crown!
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Hmm, forgot about that. Ghost?
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Again, it wouldn't have white patches. The only things with white patches are calico, pied, and 'ringers'. You know sometimes ya just never know what's at a show. I had a gy try to sell me a 'hyper' pastel that he 'bought at a show'. Wasn't even a pastel, just a normal. Someone took him for a ride...or else he was just trying to take me for one.
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Oh, I didn't mean extra white patches, just the Pied white patches. Not like calico. It looked like a pewter pied with the color not just on the head.
But I have seen some crazy assed listings on kingsnake that were a real hoot if you looked at the pics.
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I was talking about pied patches as well, really pied are the only ones with them. Unless it was a paradox of some white snake. In any case I would have loved to have seen it!
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Oh, I positive that it was pied, but colored on the non-pied bits like a pewter. And it didn't look like a paradox. So I thinking maybe it was just a really pale axanthic pied or something.
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Dawwwww.... I have to be one of the only teen girls who thinks that reptiles are just as cute as fuzzy little mammals. :3
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Yes. Baby snakes are too cute!!! :3
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Oooooh! So beautifuul! I've wanted a ball python for some time now. But I might be moving home, and mother does nigh approve of a a snake in the house haha.
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Heehee, momma's can be like that
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OMG TED IS GETING MARRYED!!!!!!!! to a lovly lady....... but she looks grouchy in this pik maybe not a morning person. there not related rite?! have you ever breded snakes befor or is tis your 1st time?
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Heehee, yeah she is a little grouchy, you would be too if you had been shipped across the country. There is no saying that they don't share a distant relative since there are only so many piebald pythons in the hobby, however they are not directly related to one another.
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thatsa good cuz if thay wer that be wered i think bruther and sisster to do husben and wife!? how meny of the eggs will be piebald pythons if thay breed if you know? i hope you also got the 1 you wonted this time if you used the same breeder. did you us the same breder? meny more questuns but save them for later but the most inportent what is here name? can i give here a nick name too like ted?
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I used a different breeder this time, not going back to the other guy. There will be 4-12 eggs in a clutch.
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in % how meny will be like the momy and dady? have you ever bred snakes befor? isent Ted to yung to be a dady? will you put up more pix of the new girl and what is here name?
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100% will be like mommy and daddy. They will vary in how much white they have. Ted is too young, so is she, I will not breed till next year. I will put up more pics, her name is Inara.
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Heehee. Eggs do not like to travel. Babies will be for sale next year.
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Thats true. ;-; Babies don't like to travel either! Import laws! ;-; (wails) I wanna hatchling! no fair.
(snivvle) maybe when i go back to the US
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Oh, right, you must be in the UK. Sorry, no baby for you from me.
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(sniffs) It's alright. Mom hates reptiles of any kind. She couldn't stand it when we had Geckoes in our bungalo at hawaii
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