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Update: Jan 2, 2013: Changed name of series for 'marketability' reasons and added a few more tidbits.Dec 2 2012: Expanded on ponies resembling wolves, and went deeper into explaining the slant-face problem with FiM-style.
Nov 17 2012: clarified some points.
Was originally gonna write what I know so far about the entire head which includes the eyes, but it seems that would make this tutorial HUGE. I thought I would just cut this down to just talk about the nose which seems to me as one of the more defining characteristics to somebody's pony style.
If there are stupid errors, bad phrasing, or anything else which makes these notes less awesome, don't be afraid to point it out.
Also check out what I've written for
...the eyes: [link]
...the legs: [link]
...the ears, tail, and the core: [link]
...neoteny & acceleration: [link] (Parts of this one is practically nose part 2)
Source for ref pic of
Horse: [link]
Wolf: [link]
Wolf Skull: [link]
Horse skull: [link]
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Comments: 38
KopaLeo [2013-07-28 09:00:58 +0000 UTC]
This is my solution to the problem of drawing the snout
It makes total sense 3D, but it's harder and less show-accurate, so I don't use it very often.
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Pix3M In reply to KopaLeo [2013-07-28 16:27:52 +0000 UTC]
I think it's still a bit slanted, but you're totally right that it's hard. Some of the top-tier pony artists don't get it right.
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KopaLeo In reply to Pix3M [2013-07-28 17:46:28 +0000 UTC]
That's why I usually avoid that 3/4 angle. It's really awkward when you realize it. Almost as awkward as the "twisted perspective" of ancient Egyptian art. www.shira.net/culture/kemetic-…
How do you cope with this problem? By avoiding it?
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Pix3M In reply to KopaLeo [2013-07-28 17:59:28 +0000 UTC]
This is where simpler, more abstracted art styles come in. Show-style gets away with it because it's a style which people normally don't look closer and realize how silly it is. Instead, I realize they probably made the nose like that to get away with smaller mouth and nose, much like actual cartoonists have great freedoms with regular anatomy to create more interesting characters. More realistic styles depend on better understanding of actual anatomy since people are gonna look at those more literally.
I think my avatar (at the time of writing for anyone who reads this comment in the future) shows where I am at with coping with non-sensical form with 3/4 noses. I find that it's largely trial-and-error but with the understanding that noses should be kept small and the shape should probably should not try to stray too far away from show-style at the same time.
For the most part, the best approach to figuring out this problem is just... do your anatomy homework. Learn from anatomy of both horses and humans.
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GlitchedCities [2013-04-03 18:56:34 +0000 UTC]
This is a brilliant tutorial! Should help me stop drawing dog-horses. XD
Just one thing, though; You spelt 'interesting' incorrectly where you said 'I've revealed an interesting mistake'
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Clawed-Nyasu [2013-03-31 02:50:06 +0000 UTC]
I've always always preferred making the front plane of the nose visible in 3/4, which means drawing both nostrils like so . This was a great breakdown as to why it makes a drawing look more like a 3d object (which any drawing that is not a flash object is better off aiming for.)
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blazah99 [2012-12-16 05:10:09 +0000 UTC]
An interesting read/tutorial. I always knew that the show did something with the character designs which prevented show-like 3d modeling and now I know exactly what that is. Thank you for that insight.
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andrewtheOwl [2012-11-28 19:54:45 +0000 UTC]
Them Scribbles...
Honestly though, thank you for all of these tips. These could come in handy.
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Masdragonflare [2012-11-18 08:55:01 +0000 UTC]
Nice guide
I had some problem to deal with the nosetrils myself and the nose/jaw shape.
But I came up with a style that I think is pretty accurate, like this one: [link]
Can you please give you your toughts on it? that'd be great to hear some advice from someone
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Clawed-Nyasu In reply to Masdragonflare [2013-03-31 02:11:53 +0000 UTC]
The faces in that comic have a really nice shape, imo, and definitely look more like 3d objects than show-style.
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Masdragonflare In reply to Clawed-Nyasu [2013-03-31 02:23:04 +0000 UTC]
Oh cool, then I think I did a good job, I guess x3
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DAbestpony [2012-11-18 05:31:21 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for that tutorial. I'm sure I'm gonna improve after applying this.
Also, Mr. Scribbles is best pony
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Vulpimo [2012-11-17 20:58:29 +0000 UTC]
The tutorial is great, and I'm sure Mr. Scribble enjoys the changes in his life XD
Although I must say, drawing these noses are remarkably challenging... aren't they?
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Pix3M In reply to Vulpimo [2012-11-17 21:16:17 +0000 UTC]
Challenging, but nothing that close referencing can't help.
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Vulpimo In reply to Pix3M [2012-11-18 13:31:31 +0000 UTC]
... I feel like even hours of practice can't help that if you are not naturally talented... and if you are not Mr. Scribbles who has his mouth done for him xDD
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JuliaKitten100 [2012-11-17 16:23:18 +0000 UTC]
Magnificent! This is by far the most helpful tutorial I've seen for drawing MLP.
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ChordCatcher [2012-11-17 12:42:54 +0000 UTC]
Very well described! I always wondered why my ponies looked slanty >.< kudos!
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Pirill-Poveniy [2012-11-17 09:34:39 +0000 UTC]
Interesting observations and a really good explanation of why 3D ponies tend to look wonky. ^^
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Lorntak [2012-11-17 09:24:24 +0000 UTC]
Annnnnd downloaded so I can go over every. single. detail later on.
Mr. Scribbles ftw.
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tamalesyatole [2012-11-17 07:22:30 +0000 UTC]
I think Shining Armor is the only adult male pony I've seen in a 3/4 perspective (or at least, in a perspective that shows both of his eyes) and even that makes me think that his farther eye is like a frog eye; bulging eyes.
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Pirill-Poveniy In reply to tamalesyatole [2012-11-17 09:41:37 +0000 UTC]
Actually quite a few stallions have 3/4 perspective, my avatar is actually based on a 3/4 pose from the show. Some examples of stallions with 3/4 are the doctor pony from Read it and Weep, Thunderlane, one of the stallions in the cider episode and others as well. It's still really weird anatomically though.
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Pix3M In reply to tamalesyatole [2012-11-17 07:25:11 +0000 UTC]
Nah, I think the other stallions just have a nose large enough so the other eye simply isn't visible at all. Heck, look at the pic of the horse. That's arguable 3/4ths.
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Daedric-Pony [2012-11-17 07:14:38 +0000 UTC]
Mr. Scribbles seems content with his improvements.
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