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Plasma-dragon β Enthusiastic Consent
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Published: 2015-07-04 19:42:39 +0000 UTC; Views: 70524; Favourites: 691; Downloads: 1259
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A quickie showing Takenta in her submissive pose and simply happy to be there.Mounts soapbox
One of the things that reallyΒ appeals to me when it comes to kink is the concept of consent. It doesn't matter how much it appeals to my other fetishes, if the people involved aren't ultimately enjoying what's going on (Even underneath a waterfall of tears) then I'm just not interested and in many cases positively repulsed, a number of times I've stumbled across pictures here on dA where I genuinely worry about the person making the images and also of what they're promoting because of the gleeful depictions of rape and even murder like it's supposed to be a turn on. Yes I know this is hypocritical considering some of the works I've done and submitted here, but I'd like to think that it's fairly obvious that I'm not trying to glorify genuine cases of kidnapping and other non-consensual bondage.
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Just discovering your work, and I really love this picture, even more after reading your comment under it! I feel exactly the same way and, it's nice to see an artist saying it loud and clear. Sometimes it's hard to be sure about the author's intentions, and it prevents me from enjoying their work. Feels really good when there is no such question in the air! Well, thanks for this, you're doing excellent work! Β Β
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Interesting, never thought I'd hear a bondage fan speak like that. I to admit that I am fascinated by the subject though my interest trends toward the damsel in distress scenario and my standards are VERY high. For example I dislike lesbian characters or scenarios and I dislike use of stimulation devices, just don't get that stuff. I also agree that some enthusiasts take it WAY to far and end up with stuff that is anywhere from inappropriate to down right tasteless.
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Trust me when I say I can tell who has actually done kink in real life and who hasn't. Really changes your opinions on things.
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For better or for worse?
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For better. You quickly learn to think about how to make kink healthy and fun for both concerned, rather than just what one person can fap to.
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Something to understand about non-consensual fantasies is that they are abstract, to some extent. It is like imagining a waterfall to coax yourself to pee, you are using imagination to stimulate little corners of your mind.
In short, women with rape fantasies do not want to be raped. The fantasy scratches an itch, emotionally and sexually, and is an abstraction, a cartoon of the real thing.
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True enough. But my counter-argument is that given these scenarios are so well represented on here and on other sites, sometimes it just needs a gentle reminder that this isn't supposed to be real.Β
Because I've met a few people who couldn't quite get the difference.
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Totally agreed! I for one can be satisfied by anything from super mild bondage to pretty extreme, including totally fantastical scenarios of kidnapping or even, say, body modification. (A weird blend of disturbance and intrigue, but that's a different conversation entirely). However, I try to make it clear that such a scenario's place is ONLY in the realm of fantasy. Agreed with Mister-Blackwood. It's an abstraction, and mostly we're sane people who can tell the difference between fantasy and reality
But it still makes me uncomfortable when that's not made clear. I tend to like disclaimers and gentle reminders of reality. I admire user taszjekt for often replying to concerning comments with reminders that the fantasies they depict are not real, and never should be. They seem pretty committed to making obvious the realistic consequences, and importance of being safe, despite the highly disturbing nature of their work. I generally try to follow their example, sometimes disclaiming in descriptions and comments.
At the end of the day, I see you're both right. Disturbing work is allowed to exist and doesn't *necessarily* mean the artist is unhinged (or would EVER want to do it, or encourage doing it, for real). But work like yours, Plasma, is still needed and appreciated to ground the whole subject in reality, and to keep people smart and feeling safe
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I'm glad to know you think in this way.
Being a submissive is not easy, and the same goes to being a dominant. It's not easy to earn trust or give trust to someone, and that's the main point in this practices. I'm glad that you understand that and did this pic. It's nice to see there's people who understands how this world works.
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I think the same. Certain pics go too far. And consent is great. Even underneath a waterfall of tears.
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Generally agree. I like some rather weird/extreme things (many of which are unfeasible/impossible IRL), but I find such scenarios infinitely more palatable when the partners involved are willing participants and/or enjoying themselves.
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Say do you have character bios for Miranda and Takenta? You know like how you created them, are they based offa someone you know, hobbies, interests...dating status.
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Its refreashing to hear someone with a fetish speak their mind this way. Shows you do have moral scruples. What really bugs me in addition to the stuff you mentioned is when artists use characters that a blatantly underage or even Loli. Now THAT is disturbing.
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Yes it is to my eyes too, but at the same time. Sooner a billion loli pics than any real children getting involved.
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Seen some of your work here and there, but just found "all of you" today, and it another like this that talked of consent and bondage and RL that got me looking at your gallery.
Until a few years ago, consensual, noncon, violence, the whole thing, I could just bumble through and enjoy equally. And then a sub asked to be mine and...Β Things changed, radically. Now I'm like you with some of these wild things here on dA and elsewhere online, and the ignoring of... the characters, I guess is the easiest way to put it?
I can now say that an "enthusiastic consent" even to a noncon scene...Β Yes, please. More.
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Oh? Where has my work been floating around to now, Pray tell?
But yeah, I totally get you when you found your tastes and perceptions have changed through real life experience, mine certainly have.
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I thought about saying "on 4chan" or one of the other various sharing sites, but even I'm not that evil, lol. I found it via "other things that may interest you" links while poking around on dA, but also had seen your work come up from time to time on bondage and D/s friendly groups, just had never clicked deeper into your gallery before, lol.
Well it was really cool to run into someone else with a similar/parallel experience to my own in online artwork, stories, and bondage + D/s themes ^^
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Ah okay. I have seen my work lurking around other websites (Hence the need to put my dA web address on my work), but I can't pretend that I've seen everywhere it gets to.
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Oh I well understand. I'm staff on a site where from time to time...Β I've found an artist I know personally's work being used by someone else elsewhere online, and got the joy of shutting them down on MY site at least ^^Β Bit of irony that writers are far more rarely "hijacked", so I've yet to "experience" the joys of this situation personally. Yet >_>
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Pictures are far easier to just move around, and much easier to get lots of attention from. It's hard to tell good writing from bad from a thumbnail after all.
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ahahaha, I have writing + artist friends who have complained about just that for YEARS, ahahah, yeah, I know the story. Had one artist friend who hated how some cropped his sig out of artwork they stole, because he didn't CARE if people used his stuff so long as they gave him credit or at least left his sig in place.
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This would be me in bondage
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You mean you'd want it to be you?
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Thank you for that! And I mean not only that cute picture!
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But the sentiment, right?
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Very much: yes. The sub, ID, whatever you name her (or him) should always be regarded as partner in the game, not part.
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I may have to borrow that expression.
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You are most welcome!
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Rape, in real life, is a horrible crime that some would even go so far as to say is a fate worse than murder for the victim. But as a fan of rape fantasies, I do feel the need to say this:
Rape fantasies are just fantasies, simple as that.
Art that depicts rape isn't any more disgusting to me as violent movies or video games like Saw or Mortal Kombat in which people are not only brutally murdered, but their bodies are entirely mutilated. Even though these things seem to "Glorify" these actions, it doesn't make you want to go outside and tear your neighbor's head off.Β
I personally enjoy rape fantasies over consensual fantasies simply because it's exciting to me. The thought of being completely helpless, scared, in pain, and in total desperation greatly adds to the excitement of bondage. Having no escape and being at the mercy of your captor adds a major helplessness factor to the excitement of bondage fantasies, while consensual fantasies imply that the characters involved can stop at any time.Β
I roleplay with a lot of people involving fantasies such as these, and these roleplays get extremely dark and gruesome, sometimes to the point where they turn into flat-out murder sprees. Despite the fact that most people would call anyone who gets turned on by this "fucked up," I can personally attest to the fact that I, as well as the many people I do these roleplays with, are very nice and considerate people in reality.Β
Once again, despite the twisted fantasies, I would never condone to any sort of real life kidnapping, rape, murder, or other violent crime.
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And I've played and enjoyed the company of many people with similarly aligned fantasies. And the thing is is that this message really wasn't for them or you, you know what you want, you have the nuance to know the difference. You don't need me to tell you what you should want.
But sadly the same cannot be said for many, with genuine woman hate or dehumanisation being the order of the day for either the artist or some of the commenters I've seen. So if I can shift the perception slightly so that the idea of bondage and dominance can indeed pair with healthy relationships. And that it's okay to want these things, and that other people want it too.
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That is definitely a very important message to get across. Quite frankly, bondage is a perfect way to keep things fresh and interesting in a relationship if sex begins to get stale. Viewing bondage as a more romantic thing rather than a form of humiliation definitely would help a lot more couples be more open to the idea.
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And that's kinda what I'm trying to help with. If can throw in a few instances showing consent, especially enthusiastic consent, coupled with a nice helping of aftercare-related imagery, then I'll think I've done some good here.
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yeah some people have really cruel tastes.
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Thanks for making this crucial point. Consent is absolutely key. Make sure your partner is fully aboard, never assume, then have all the fun in the world..
We all have different tolerances. There are definitely some pieces on DA that leave me totally squicked out. Obviously there's a huge difference between fantasy art and the real world. A boundary that's important to respect.
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r-e-s-p-e-c-t is truly the key!
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Agreed, but sometimes you have to wonder with some artists. And besides, the more that proper consent is promoted and encouraged, the more normal that will seem to to everyone that this is a huge detail, not to be overlooked. Currently there seems to be a lot of misconceptions amongst people new to BDSM about how to go about approaching it. Case in point, the sheer number of creepy and badly formed messages my female friends get on Fetlife by people who genuinely think that this is what submissive or dominant women want to hear.
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I agree with you completely. I don't like wading through that graphic and violent stuff to find stuff that I'm interested, i.e. stuff like your's. This is cute, clean, and thus I like it.
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wonderful picture and those metal restraints are gorgeous!
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I want to start by saying YKINMK: Your Kink Is Not My Kink. As long as it's art, and no animals were harmed in the making of... I try not to judge people. I've seen torture porn, and I guess I don't really understand the appeal. But if I don't understand it, then I don't feel qualified to comment on it all that much. It's gross. I'll say it's gross because it really is gross. But whatever, some people juggle geese.
My personal feeling is that love needs to be a component or it feels ... meh. Incomplete. I focus less on consent and more on acceptance, but I still want love or... maybe joy would be a better way of saying it. Brian Tarsis does some fantastic work with women being treated terribly but still enjoying it, or coming to enjoy it. Some of my favorite works involve a victim forced into bondage and slavery by a guy (acting out of necessity) and coming to love it.
For example: a daughter of a wealthy family has serious emotional issues. Drugs, self mutilation, and eventually suicide. The dom who is in love with her (and had been rejected) comes across her as she is trying to end it all. Saves her life, and decides that a (suitable erotic) course of discipline and bondage is the only way to force her to confront her pain, and heal her soul. So there's your erotic porno setup: plenty of love but no consent. ... for the purpose of this story I'll assume the guy is an amazing psychological profiler and too moral and honorable to abuse his power.
My point is this: I want to see the victim end up happier and healthier for her experiences. That's what makes porn good to me. And in a sense... if my imaginary dom can't make his victims love the abuse he inflicts? Then he's not very good at what he does. A woman not enjoying her trial, to me, indicates a dom who lacks excellence.
Does that make sense?
I do salute your focus on consent. I think it's great. I'm just a bit... sloppier.
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I tend to draw the line at emotional issues too. I've seen too many people predating on those with emotional issues using BDSM as a backdrop. It tends to foster a lot of abusive self-blaming when the dom in the arrangement takes advantage.
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Love isn't enough. Love takes what's good and makes it better. But it takes what's broken and makes it worse ... people miss that. Intensity doesn't improve, it just increases.
I advocate honesty. And I mean Honesty-with-self, which is the only kind that matters. Lie to others, that's okay ... as long as you're honest with yourself about why you're lying. Honesty => clarity of motivations. It's 101 if you're going to tie up and spank somebody.
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Cute...xD
I'd love to be her instead...xD
Nice drawing...xD
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