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that wasn't the argument I was making, after all you could just as easily buy products as McDonald's that never harmed any animals in the process. It's ingrained in our society to buy animal products that are made in this manner, simply picking on one restaurant chain is a biased rant more than social commentary
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One can "easily buy products at McDonalds that never harmed any animals in the process" - agree when you mention sallads. But McDonalds is knownd for the hamburgers, not for the salads.
And if you pay attention to other posters I did, they donΒ΄t only speek about animal rights, also enviornement and human rights are mentioned. And yes, McDonalds is the biggest fast-food corporation in the world and its impacts are massive! Of course it makes sense to pick them.
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Again my argument was not against the other facts stated in the poster, or whether or not McDonalds is the biggest fast food chain in the world, as I agree wholeheartedly with those statements...it's when you slip in animal cruelty at the end when you start preaching an opinion rather than fact
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He just isn't getting our point on this. He twists it all around and then tries to make us look like we are wrong, when in fact he is in the wrong.
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Animal cruelty is not an opinion, itΒ΄s a fact, exists.
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no animal death is a fact, as to whether or not it is cruel is up to the observer...you
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Animal death doesnΒ΄t happen with out any cruelty. Animals are scencients just as you and I are: they know exactly what is going to happen to them. Besides, they do suffer from abuses since they are born: They are cagged; they do not have normal social relations with others; they donΒ΄t have their natural habitat; mothers and baby animals (like cows or pigs) are separated since birthM they donΒ΄t live free, etc., etc. ItΒ΄s not an opinion, itΒ΄s a fact that is part of the meals that evolve meat, eggs and milk.
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it's impossible to eat an animal without killing it. I have no idea what magical world you live in, you have a choice to not to eat any animals, but humans have been doing it since the beginning of time (and have been proven to evolved to do so, go figure)...so to throw us all into the lot of being cruel to animals is insipid and wonderfully naive of you. And you're just proving my point as to your personal vendetta against McDonalds...you could just as easily be complaining about paved highways and the number of roadkill that occur, or how our prescriptions we take don't break down in our systems and how they affect the local ecology. But no, you take your moral stance where hunger is the predominant factor, but the truth is none of those animals would even be alive if they weren't for public consumption. We breed certain animals to eat...and I suggest you read a book about what being sentient means, instead of waving it around like some middle grader who just read it on a bumper sticker...
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I refer animal suffering and cruelty is not only about the killing processes, but their all lives since the first day they are born in live-stock industries, and during their entire life, and you prefer not to comment that FACT and instead focus only on the "killing" part. Of course I have the choice not to eat animals, many people have that choice to do it, and many are understanding the impacts of the meat industry in environment, in animals, in resources usage (soil, electricity, fuel) and in food distribution worldwide and engaging in vegetarianism and veganism.
Sentience is the "ability to feel or perceive" you donΒ΄t have to read a book about it. In fact in the books of 5th grey, children learn that cows, pigs, chickens, ducks, dogs, all mammalsβ possess a central nervous system that allows them, just like us, to be sentient. Maybe you should buy one of that books for yourself at christmas, they are quite easy to understand and they not very expensive.
"Humans have been doing it (eat animals) since the beginning of time" β
1. Is also true that humans, specifically man, subjugate women, particular races, and many of those practices have been abolished because they inflict with basic human rights. Women discrimination is SEXISM; races discrimination is RACISM; animals discrimination is SPECISM. If it is healthier to live a live without meat and not inflict suffering to animals, why don´t we do it? The main reason is that animals do provide a huge profiteering. Meat industry profits, gyms and drug companies also profits for the human diseases like obesity, heart diseases, strokes, high blood pressure, etc⦠It´s a huge business.
2. That claiming of yours is also generalistic: The animals killing change from country to country, and from culture to culture there are specific practices that involve (or not) animals usage for consumption. I.e.: people in the west do not eat dogs or cats and many of them do create emotional attachments to them β some calls them pets. The same cats and dogs are a dish in some regions of Asia, and many of western people they feel revolted because of the suffering of these specific species, but still donΒ΄t stop eating cow when this animal is sacred in India and just walk in the streets among people. Examples could just go on. ItΒ΄s you culture that decides what you can, or not, eat β and you blindly obey like sheep without even ask yourself why you eat what you eat, what are the impacts of what you eat in the planet and what are the hidden processes behind your βtasty meatβ dishes
3. The west, specifically USA, produces more meat now than ever. Since 1950Β΄s meat consumption has INCREASE almost 90%: Consequences? Take a look at the UN report Livestock's Long Shadow - Environmental Issues and Options ( 2006) that concludes that meat industry is βone of the most significant contributors to todayβs most serious environmental problems". Recently, in 2009, another UN report came out, pointing that meat industry is the number one cause for environmental problems. They say "that livestock are responsible for 18 percent of greenhouse gas emissions, a bigger share than that of transport."[3]. GHG emissions arise from feed production (eg chemical fertilizer production, deforestation for pasture and feed crops, cultivation of feed crops, feed transport and soil organic matter losses in pastures and feed crops), animal production (eg enteric fermentation and methane and nitrous oxide emissions from manure) and as a result of the transportation of animal products.β This report is not an opinion, is access free on the internet, here: [link]
So, comparing a massive industry like McDonalds and its impacts on environment with the βroadkill that occurβ is a very ignorant claim, so I really advise you to look for informations that FOX news hides to you, and to try understand the impacts of your beef in the planet. While doing that, for sure you will understand the processes that are involved the meat industry.
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sentience is not the feeling of our perceptions for that in of itself is called perception. Hearing, Tasting, Smelling, Feeling, and seeing something doesn't make you sentient...they're all different senses to perceive your environment. Sentience is the ability to know that you have those perceptions and then some
1) You're arguing that women and animals are the same thing...obviously they are not
2) But it is apparent in every culture to eat animals...that is the argument. What animals to eat or not is entirely up to the people...
3) 
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You like to create new means for words and new facts for the world and you prefer to avoid the facts I send to you, and also the study. I understand.
Well, according to the dictionary, sentience is 1. the state or quality of being sentient; awareness 2. sense perception not involving intelligence or mental perception; feeling - You are sentient, I am sentient, women are sentient, humans animals are sentient... every mammal is sentient. Even fishes are sentient and they posess a limbic system.
1) I never said women are the same, but I mantain that all humans are sentient just as animals are, no less, no more. I spoke about descrimination. Specism is descrimination towards animals. Read the text and understand the menaing, donΒ΄t you just pick words and terms randomly.
2) The other 2 problems is we are feeding animals instead of people, and we are destroying the planet.
3) Yes, McDonalds, KFC and CARGILL are main responsables for the deforestation of Amazonia.
4. Read the report I send you.
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i'll have mine super sized !great info.
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Lol If you think this is bad, look up how they treat all the animals, their workers in the meat packing factory, and even their /farmers/. They screw people from when the food's made to when it's served to ya~ A good source is a book called Fast Food Nation~
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What do you love? and what is disgusting?
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I love your picture, silly
and mcdonald's/all the waste and such associated with it is disgusting
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i absolutely love this.
amazing concept
if you have the time please check out my gallery and #truelovecaptures thanks so much. you are lovely
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by animal suffering, are you referring to just their death, or their slow painful death?
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animal suffering refers to all their life since they are born in livestocks till the day they are killed.
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Many animals are raised in factories in very tight quarters where there's barely any room to move, and are fed heavy antibiotics to prevent getting sick.
However, some people actually raise animals in open fields where they have plenty of room and it isn't overcrowded. They have room to roam and have a good life before they die. Surely this isn't suffering?
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you are right. But unfortunatly the majority of animals are raised in factories and, undortunatelly, animals raised in open fields are fewer and fewer.
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Good for yoy, bad for others. Anyway, enjoy the "happy meal".
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This is a cool Idea D: Ive seen some of your other pictures and its all pretty neat! :]
I still eat mcdonalds though
Cause....I like it D:
But neat work! :]
D: that clap was suppose to be more happy.
oh well plz icons cant always be what you want
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I loooooooove McDonalds~ xDD Ate it for lunch just yesterday! 8D My friend had three double cheeseburgers, hahahaha.
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Now, every time you eat your tasty burger you can realize the waste of resouces that is implied in.
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BTW take a compliment instead of soft bashing someone
D: I like to eat them.
If you dont, you dont.
I never said anything bad.
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Is not a question of taste, I loved meat an hate a lot. This is an ethical issue.
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Ok well
Im not discussing anything with anyone 
Just gave you a compliment!
wasn;t lookin to give my opinion on anything~
wasn't looking for a lesson either.
I respect you views
To each their own!
Calm down, and Carry on~
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No one is discussing. And indirectetly you gave your opinion. YOu go to McDonalds because you "like it", and I refere to you that is an ethical issue, has nothing to do with taste, and the situation the work aludes is not "neat", is a very serious issue.
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ooook :]
now
I take the compliment back since you don't want it
have fun with you art :]
KTHNZBYE~
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Good, please take it back.
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Ill have some new facts in my brain while eating it
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Sorry to be a real pain but can you tell me where you got this information from please?
I am vegetarian and would never eat a MacDonald if my life depended on it. I am just curious.
Thanks,
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I had to use some sources, and I also had to make some mathematic counts.
One of the sources is this [link]
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[link] Please watch this and do some more research.
I hate to break it to you but. Co2 is not a poison. It is a vital part of the air we breathe. If we try to reduce it in any way we will start to see a reduction in plant life and our oxygen levels will suffer. Plants need Co2 in order to produce the oxygen we need to breathe. With a lesser amount we will eventually all be forced to eat GM food, which is part of the NWO plan.
I have a background in Meteorology and have no wish to see my grand children grow up into a world without cows and other animals, however that would possibly be the plan according to your poster? With Co2 reduced there would nit be food for the animals. Hope you get the idea.
Animal excrement can be used as fertiliser and right now in Gaza they are using cow dung to bind the mud to make bricks to build shelters as Israel will not allow any concrete into Gaza. Many people also use animal dung as fuel to cook with.
Many vegetarians also produce much more methane or to be accurate fart gas (methane in its pure form does not smell) it is hydrogen sulfide gas that smells. [link]
I absolutely hate what MacDonalds stand for, also the fact that they support Israel. There are videos about that show their burgers that are several years old that have not even begun to decompose. How the blazes are we supposed to digest food like that?
If you believe that Co2 is dangerous then why bring deforestation into the equation? The forests are producing Co2 from all the trees...
For me the cost of a big Mac would be, extreme indigestion and crap food value. Lack of health and a terrible way for the poor cows to end their existence. You have the right idea but the incorrect facts.
Sorry to be a kill joy. Please don't let me put you off as you have the right idea.
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There's a difference between naturally occuring CO2 and anthropogenically produced CO2. Namely that the former is offset by natural CO2 sinks as part of the carbon cycle while much of the latter is not, and accumulates in the atmosphere. The modern ecosystems and earth-ocean-air cycles are balanced to operate under the recent historical CO2 levels, not altered levels, which is documented to cause ocean acidification (which is devastating to those organisms with calcium carbonate shells, ie most of them) and increases the power of the greenhouse effect.
No one wants to eliminate CO2 from the atmosphere (we couldn't if we tried), only reduce our artificial contributions and otherwise offset them with artificial/artificially arranged sinks.
Incidentally, if ever you see "NWO" referenced without irony, tune out. It is the universal sing for "unadulterated garbage ahead".
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Every living creatures release Co2, I know, also know that death organisms release Co2, eve we and breathing we are releasing Co2. Co2 is essential to ecossystemns, specially to plants and trees. Also, many rivers are getting more and more dirty because of the shit of animals that are stuck in meat stock industries - many local populations worldwide complain about the horroble smell that come to their houses, and that all the life in rivers that is being wasted. Meat industry is responsable for the 18% of global pollution.
This work aludes to deforestation specially because the desctruction of trees gives place to the platation of soya that in 80% of the ammounts is used to feed catle for human consumption, and not people. The water usage, the energy wasted, for us eating meat daily we eat now-a-days is symply not sustainable.
Of course in Gaza, palestinians must use manure in order to give it some practical usage. But I think they would prefere that Israel lifts the ilegal blokade, according to international law, and allow construction materials enters in Gaza. Also, manure can be used as fertilizer and can be used for fuel.
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I haven't eaten a McDonalds in ages, namely because:
A) It's not even tasty
B) They're heart attacks on a bun
C) "Evil corporation syndrome"
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