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I'm not loving it either. The only thing they are useful for is their restrooms or using their parking lots to turn around in when traveling.
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Why are ranchers complaining about losing ther "livelihoods"? Meat consumpton has been in decline in the US for the past decade with no apparent reversal. Just Google it. They're "losing" their "livelihood" from consumer decisions.
And as for those morons who blame wolves for killing their livestock and game and jeopardizing "livelihoods", Dr Arthur Middleton and his associates recently published scientific reports that demolished their LIES. I saw the "documentary" and pretty much picked it apart.
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Small ranchers are losing their animal explotation to big corporations. Meat production is still increasing. Even if that was truth, it wouldn´t be enough. Animal exploitation just should STOP.
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I've been boycotting them for years,but, it was because they supported LGBT issues!
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You discriminate people and non human animals: you deserve a medal made of crap.
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Thank You! I'll fry a chicken in honor of you tonight.Oh,if you gave me a "crap medal" I'd use it to fertilize my garden,as I raise my own food.Yes,that does include animals to eat.Ex:cows,goats,turkeys,geese,ducks,chickens,guineas,rabbits,and fish.I also like to hunt!Fresh deer and squirrels are yummy!If you want to eat Tofu that's your right to do so,but,I will continue to raise my on food,and that includes MEAT!
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Maybe it isn´t necessary to give you a crap medal because the crap you have in that skull is enough to fertilize a football field. So, maybe you should try to raize some brains, it´s a hard task, I know, but some times miracles may occur.
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Yes they can!Two occurred recently,the TEA PARTY won in the Nov.Elections and Obamacare was declared Unconstitutional!To bad you can't smell this home grown fried chicken,it's Great!
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Why don´t you eat your dog Zane? It might taste well!
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If dogs were the food of choice in my society I probably would eat one.However,this is America NOT some country in Asia.Also,I don't eat every animal I raise,some are pets/breeders.Having said that,Alligators,Rattlesnakes and Turtles taste great,you ought to try some.
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oh, I understand. You have a sheep behavior: You just do what others and what your culture tells you to do. Eat animals? I don´t eat any. I think with brains and not with the stomach like people like you do.
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Nooo,you're confusing me with your LIBERAL buddies.They do what others in the LIBERAL CULTURE tell them to.If it's okay for animals to eat each other,why can't I eat them?Also,while I do not agree with your stance on not eating meat,I support your right not to.Sadly,the feelings aren't shared.So much for Liberal TOLERANCE and ACCEPTANCE.
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Your brain being programed by your culture is a reality, and that has nothing to do with being, or not, liberal. You don´t eat "your" dog and you don´t even do not know why. And you eat other animals just because everybody does it. Human animals and non human animals do share lots of characteristics, one of them is being sentient. But it seems that some humans, like you, still posess a very low cognitive capacity and just vomit prejudices and ignorance everytime they articulate a sentence.
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Typical LIBERAL statement.I already explained why I don't eat my dog,you obviously didn't read that in my response,but,Liberals NEVER do.As for vomitting prejudices and ignorance,you're doing an excellent job!Continue to drink the KOOL-AID.
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So, explain me again: why don´t you eat "your" dog?
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I already have,read my post's again.
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Your answer doesn´t make sense. I will try to help you.
1. You don´t eat "your" dog by cultural convention.
2. you don´t eat your dog because you have emotional atachment to him, and you don´t see "him" like a "it".
3. You eat other animals by cultural conventions.
4. You are a speciesist because you descriminate species.
5. Humans do not need to eat animals.
6. Not all animals are carnivorous. Gorilas, that share 93% of human DNA is a strong and healthy vegetarian.
7. You only eat some animals because is see them as meat and they "taste" well.
8. (...)
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You did NOT"help"me.1,2,3,4,and 7 are things that I said,or impied.5 is your choice and some scientist's opinion.6 is true but,as you've said some animals ARE carnivorous.I choose to be an Omnivore.as for 8,did you draw a blank?
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"The humans do not need to eat meat" - that is not an opinion, is a FACT.
You did no choose to eat animals. Your culture impose those practices and you accept them as "natural".
The impacts of livestock industries just go on and on, not only on animals. I could point 8, 9, 10, 11, etc... Impacts of livestock industry: human health; enviornment; sustainability of resources.
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Riiight,just like GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE or whatever you people are calling it this week.
Science claims that Chimps are our closest relatives,but,chimps eat meat as part of their normal diet.You choose not to eat animals(this IS your right).Your Counter Culture has imposed this practice on you and you accept it as "natural".
Large Commercial Farms are guilty of most of the claims you make,however,I grow most of my own food or,hunt for it.The animals aren't crammed into tiny cages and live in free range conditions.I am an ORGANIC FARMER,so,those arguments don't apply to me.
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I didn´t mention global warming, you mention it. Antropogenic Global warming is a oax.
If you are a farmer that raizes animals for yourself then your are not co-responsable for the factors I mentioned.
Still you are responsable for the suffering of animals and you have no right to killed them. There is a big different between vegans and animal eaters: we are a evidence of a more ETHICAL, HEALTY and SUSTAINABLE way of living and the proof that HUMANS DO NOT NEED to kill animals in order to be healhty. You only kill them and eat them because of TASTE, nothing more - that is your only argument. Our arguments are ethical based.
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I agree with you on Global Warming,it Is a Hoax. The AGW crowd has tried to tie Modern Farming Practices into their theory as well.
True.
Again,that is your opinion.My question remains the same:If animals can kill and eat each other,why can't I eat them?
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Antropogenic Global Warming is a Oax, and that fabrication exists for many reasons that are nor worth of being mentioned right now. That is one issue I never mention, you brought it up.
One of the issues I mention was pollution caused by livestock industries and their impacts on enviornment, and this is factual and anyone can have access on scientific data, of even a carefull look on landscapes, and assist the land degradation, air pollution, water shortage and water pollution and loss of biodiversity. Who are the responsables? Big corporations, medium interprises and consumers. Animals production has and consumption has incresed in 300% since 1970 in the most developed countries and the impacts are just devastating.
If the most developed countries have more local producers like you the several impacts would diminsh radicaly. Animals would have better living conditions, there would be a better crops distribution for humans, water and energy would be saved, human health would improve, and impacts on enviornment would be less strong. Of course I do prefer the existing of local productions.
But if you ask me: Do humans do need to eat animals? No, we don´t need! And this is not an opinion, is factual. Is also a fact that vegans do have a more ethical, healthy and sustainable way of live.
And so your justification of your diet is just weak, because you justifie your feeding practices along with the others that carnivourous animals do have. Say that a lyon is carnivourous and therefore I am, is not a reasonable justification.
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You're disagreement with me centers around the fact that I eat meat,something I will NEVER stop doing as long as I live.However it may interest you to know that by eating meat I'm actually saving animals,here's how.I raise rare/endangered breeds of livestock,which commercial farms stopped using decades ago.These breeds would have become extinct if not for small hobby farmers such as myself.Currently I raise Araucana Chickens,Black Cayuga Ducks,Pilgrim Geese,and Black Spanish,Chocolate,and Royal Red Turkeys.I also have Spanish Goats.All of these breeds are threatened,people like myself keep them alive through Family Farming.Organizations around the World work hard to save these animals and the rare crops I grow in my garden,such as Cherokee Purple Tomatoes.Now,if we all stopped eating meat,would a lot of domestic animals go extinct? They most certainly would.So,by eating animals I am saving them from extinction.
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That is a revelation: you kill and eat animals but you save them from extinction. It´s like saying the main purpose of a cow is to be "domesticated" in order to serve human necessities. Another speciesist afirmation, without any sense. As long you eat animals, you are a speciesist and you do not have any right of having a label of being a ethic person. YOu raise animals just because you ant to eat them and because maybe you make money from them. That is a selfish way your life.
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Again that is YOUR opinion.I guess we should just let them become extinct?
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Do you want to convince that you raise animals in order to avoid their extintion? I do know you eat them because they "taste" well and you earn some money. Extintion goes allong with killing, that is how species disapear.
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Your lack of knowledge on Endangered Domestic Species is not surprising.Look for internet sites on the subject such as the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy or the European Livestock Breeds Ark and Rescue Net.However,I don't expect your opinion will change at all on this issue.You claim to care about animals yet you know little if anything about Endangered Domestic Breeds,just curious,but do you donate any money to LEGITIMATE ANIMAL CAUSES? No I do NOT mean PETA or the Humane Society of the USA,I do NOT consider them to be Legitimate.
Also,what is wrong with making money breeding animals?
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American Livestock Breeds Conservancy is an organization that serves people like you that want to proceed with their affairs and their taste for animals. There isn´t a single vegan and/or vegetarian on that organization.
You categorize animals has food and you use a economic established system of values to use them for your own purposes: to use them as goods and food. As sentient beings the animals you raise have the interest to live their lifes, to have their social relations, to be confortable in their habitats/fiels/mountains, etc. You only care about yourself, not about them.
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I also asked you what animal welfare organizations you donate to.i notice you didn't respond to that question,why?
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Donantion isn´t only one way for contributing for causes. One can contribute with many ways. Being vegan is a major contribution to animal rights cause, because it is a ay of life that refuses any animal exploration for one own pleasure. I am vegan, but I also do some research work that I hope it helps to contribute for the non human animals cause.
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UH-HUH.Do you get outdoors much? Do you enjoy Nature Walks,Canoeing,Eco-tourism? Have you ever been Horse back riding? Most importantly,do you have ANY pets?
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What is the seriousness of those questions?
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People(in my experience) who scream about animal rights generally DON'T know anything about animals and spend little if any time around them.PETA supporters are an especially ignorant and dangerous lot.PETA protested a Youth Hunt in my area a few years back,they attempted to sabotage the hunt.However,their actions resulted in the DEATHS of several deer because they knew nothing about the habits of the animals they were defending.Once again,do you have ANY pets or spend ANY amount of time in a Nature Reserve?
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Do you thing the only organization that supports animals is PETA? The world is much more than USA. Do you think the only way to know and understand animals is to have pets (dogs or cats) and to do horse back riding and playing in lakes? No, science isn´t made like that. And yes, I do help animals directly, and I do not call them "pets" and I do love and spend lots of time in natural reserves. I told you, I don´t categorize animals and I don´t create hierarquies among them and I do not used them has goods, like you do.
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Riiight.Continue to eat your veggies I will eat some as well,but,in between my potato and salad there WILL be a big hunk of MEAT.
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Sure I will continue to have a healthy, energetic and ethical nourishment. Discriminate animals and eat them just for my pleasure is a sad moment from my past. Maybe one day cancer statistics can count with that graveyard body contribution.
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Doubtful,ALL of the meat I eat is Organic,so,the risk of cancer does not exist.I will also continue to have healthy,energetic,and ethical nourishment,without the stigma of LIBERAL DOGMA attached to it.Continue to drink your KOOL-AID.
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If you provoque suffering and death to other species in orther to please your taste and make some money, then you are selfish - and there is nothing ethical in that. Liberalism has nothing to do with this conversation, don´t limit more that small brain of yours.
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LIBERALISM has much to do with this.Species equality IS a Liberal belief,as is Anti-Capitalism.Also,I never wished you harm because of your beliefs but,you have most certainly wished harm to me.So much for TOLERANCE and ACCEPTANCE.
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Don´t try to play that game with me of liberalism crap. There are liberals that are vegan and conservatives that are vegan. This issue is very specific and it´s about people like you that want to deflect the main facts: you are speciesist, you are selvish; you harm animals for your own benifits.
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You are correct,LIBERALISM is crap,and I suppose there is a Conservative vegan somewhere.Your Anti-Capitalistic views and stand on specie "rights" makes you a LIBERAL,whether you admitt it or not.Also,I NEVER wished you harm for your beliefs,so much for your LIBERAL TOLERANCE and ACCEPTANCE.
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Liberal or conservative, your square mind and your miss conceptions of reality want do avoid the fact that ETHIC AND SCIENCE places you as a selfish speciesist and a person full of prejudices. You prefere to avoid the facts and continue to deflect criticism by calling me a liberal. ok, you made your point. good bye
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Another consequence of cheap foreign labor.
Amazonia's like "Hey, whey don't we pay columbians/Guyanans less than $1 a day to raise our cattle for us? What's a few acres of rain forest to save money?"
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Don´t get it? Meat production envolves massive usage of water, energy, cereals and soil. Amazonia is one good example of what meat industry is doing to forests, it implies deforestation for soya production that feeds animals instead of feeding people. McDonalds and KFC are two big insustries that are supported by another one - Cargill that is responsable for the deforestation in Amazonia, in order for you to have your daily meat.
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