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Internetexplorer968 [2015-07-19 16:34:47 +0000 UTC]

Meat is not the soul reason for environmental degradation. Also humans are omnivores. Not everyone can stick to eating plants.

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Nyx3c In reply to Internetexplorer968 [2018-06-26 10:32:19 +0000 UTC]

Uhh, how foolish is that? Even Hitler was a vegetarian! And yes: The meat industry is the main reason for global environemtal degradation concerning climate change, fresh water use, land use change, loss of biodiversity...

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Internetexplorer968 In reply to Nyx3c [2018-06-27 07:27:57 +0000 UTC]

Keep drinking that globalist Kool Aid. 👌

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katiejo911 [2014-08-17 02:42:48 +0000 UTC]

I only eat animals who eat vegetables.

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poderiu In reply to katiejo911 [2014-09-23 23:25:00 +0000 UTC]

I didn´t understand

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maraaaa67 [2014-07-04 22:38:29 +0000 UTC]

If you think it's not wrong to eat animals...think again,watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=odglds…
Human race should be eliminated from the earth,i wished this so many times. 
Conclusion: HUMANS ARE STUPID
(yes,that includes me and my family and my friends,we all deserve to die)
And cows are one of the principal sources of global warming
I congratulate every vegetarian        

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CatThatOinks [2012-12-26 05:43:26 +0000 UTC]

Veggie power! Vegetarians rock

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UnfailingEagle [2012-12-03 23:44:27 +0000 UTC]

why don't you whant people eating meat?

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poderiu In reply to UnfailingEagle [2012-12-04 09:24:01 +0000 UTC]

People don´t need to eat animals. If fact eating animals is bad for health.
Animals do suffer in factory farms and in slawgter houses.
Meat industry damages envirnonment.
Meat is unsustainable.
Vegans last longer and are healthier: [link]

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Internetexplorer968 In reply to poderiu [2015-07-19 16:30:36 +0000 UTC]

Vegans don't live as long as you think they do. They only live from 1-5 more years. Wow big difference.

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Csp499 [2012-11-13 23:48:42 +0000 UTC]

But why not?

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Neters-shrine [2012-09-23 23:00:07 +0000 UTC]

I supposed it's so hard to open eyes to people who are totally indoctrinated and fooled with tradition and cult of eating animals.

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Poopytrollmonster [2011-03-05 20:09:00 +0000 UTC]

You let animals cornhole you. I can see it in your art.

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Cat322 [2011-02-12 19:57:24 +0000 UTC]

YAY!!! I love this! And I read the comments below mine and I so agree with you! (:

ps.: do you mind if I use this as my desktop?

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poderiu In reply to Cat322 [2011-02-12 20:43:06 +0000 UTC]

of course you can! You can even print it and offer it to friends!

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Cat322 In reply to poderiu [2011-02-14 21:17:18 +0000 UTC]

YAY!! thank you! you made my day! (:

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EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-05 05:44:40 +0000 UTC]

If we're not supposed to eat animals, why do they taste like food?

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-05 11:55:04 +0000 UTC]

That is a very naif question, but I will try to answer it. You eat some animals because by convention your economic and cultural system determines what you should or not eat. For you is Ok to eat a cow, but don´t you eat your dog? Do you think your dog is "special" than a cow only because you like him? No. The difference is you got emotional connections with him because by cultural conventions in the west dogs consist in a species of animal that are not eatable, but companion animals.

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-05 20:25:17 +0000 UTC]

I am a human, I am an omnivore, and I will eat meat without apology.
There is no reason to not eat meat.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-05 20:28:29 +0000 UTC]

Of course there is no reason "not to eat meat". You should eat your dog, it might taste well!

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Athalai-Haust In reply to poderiu [2011-12-28 04:49:32 +0000 UTC]

People are entitled to their own opinions...
..its funny that with the kind of work that you do, one would expect that you would know that.

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poderiu In reply to Athalai-Haust [2011-12-28 05:33:21 +0000 UTC]

And your point is?

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Athalai-Haust In reply to poderiu [2011-12-28 14:05:31 +0000 UTC]

your telling people that your going to trespass on their homes kill their animals and feed them to said persons. because said people have disagreed to an idea of yours. that does not put forward a good image rater it makes you look like a dangerous nutcase. people dont consider your work theyre driven away from it.
ive observed the comments on your works, the majority of them are arguements that you seem to always instigate. because people do exactly what it is you do with your works. They say what they think is right and everyone is entitled to that.

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poderiu In reply to Athalai-Haust [2011-12-28 19:22:42 +0000 UTC]

It seems there is about some problem about your reading and you don´t get the point of my posters and about what I write. I defend the end of speciesism, I don´t eat, use, or dress animals for my own good. The reason I talk about pets is very simple: people don´t see dogs or cats has food because cultural conventions. The majority of people don´t even would admit the possibility of harming dogs or cats. Nevertheless, because we conditioned to discriminate species, the majority of us are responsable for harming thousands of animals in livestocks industries.

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Athalai-Haust In reply to poderiu [2011-12-29 02:17:50 +0000 UTC]

no no. there's no problem at all! i understand your points exactly.. their hardly difficult concepts to follow or understand. almost simpleton level work.

the point is that not everybody will agree with it. this is what appears to be a difficult notion to you you dont seem to grasp the very real fact that some individuals won't beleive you no matter how many facts you shove in their faces.
the problem with your comments on this work is not that you mention peoples pets but rather in the fact that you threateningly stated that you would kill and feed two peoples pets to them.

so you would commit or recommend commiting the very action that you preach against in order to prove your point?

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poderiu In reply to Athalai-Haust [2011-12-29 02:46:41 +0000 UTC]

I haven´t threatened no ones pets. I am no danger for pets or any kind of animals of any species. Veganism is about protecting all species, envirornment, people, and I defend veganism.

The issue is that no one needs to eat animals, to wear them, to use them for entertainment. And placing animals in a hierarchy (were pets are in a higher position) just doesn´t make any sense at all - ethicaly. What are considered pets for western people is considered food is some regions of Asia. I am sure people who have dogs or cats are against the notion of harming animals with which they have emotional conections. But that does mean cats or dogs suffer more then cows, chickens, pigs, etc.? Of course not.

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Athalai-Haust In reply to poderiu [2011-12-29 04:20:02 +0000 UTC]


*Omega-WereWolf Feb 5, 2011
Why would I eat my dog? That's silly. I'll happily shoot another deer next season.

--
F.U.N.
F is for fire that burns down the whole town!
U is for uranium--BOMBS!
N is for no survivors!
Down here in the deep blue sea!
-Plankton



~poderiu Feb 5, 2011
Why it´s silly to eat your dog? I can kill him for you and will invite you for dinner.


Sorry dude but the proof is in your responses and comments all over this work, your not very good at hiding evidence.
vegan yeah, thats exactly the kind of image that this puts forward.


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poderiu In reply to Athalai-Haust [2011-12-29 16:12:15 +0000 UTC]

So you pick a sarcastic response of mine to an idiot that kills deers and uses this signature? "F.U.N.
F is for fire that burns down the whole town!
U is for uranium--BOMBS!
N is for no survivors!
Down here in the deep blue sea!?"


Don´t you understand a sarcastic sentence?
And why is more serious or gross to kill dogs, cats or deers then to produce and kill pigs, cows, turkeys or chickens?

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-06 01:06:42 +0000 UTC]

Why would I eat my dog? That's silly. I'll happily shoot another deer next season.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-06 01:11:13 +0000 UTC]

Why it´s silly to eat your dog? I can kill him for you and will invite you for dinner.

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orcbruto [2011-02-04 16:07:16 +0000 UTC]

...hummmm... plants suffer too ¬¬

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poderiu In reply to orcbruto [2011-02-04 16:18:40 +0000 UTC]

No, they don´t. Plants are not sentient.

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orcbruto In reply to poderiu [2011-02-04 16:27:26 +0000 UTC]

Well, science thinks they feel pain and sadness, just don't express it by airwaves that we recognize as sound
[link]

Probably we have to eat just raw minerals... until someone discover stones are sentient...

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poderiu In reply to orcbruto [2011-02-04 16:36:54 +0000 UTC]

Comparing plants with sentient beings, like you, me or a cow is just ludicrous. Plants do not have nervous system and brain and therefore they do not feel pain, consciousness and they do not feel joy, sadness, fear, afection like a cow, you of me can feel.

It will be more easy to you to send a plane to mars with your stomach then prove that plants are sentient.

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1Walkingblind [2011-02-04 15:50:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I tried to be a vegan when I was younger...lasted a until dinner time. I can't do it I love meat, it's like asking the people of Buenos Aires to give up beef! Impossible. I've been looking at free range possibles, because I can't stand how they raise cows in America, but I wont give up meat. I heard that vegans don't consider fish to be bad...I eat them too so thats a fair trade off? lol.

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1Walkingblind In reply to 1Walkingblind [2011-02-04 21:54:03 +0000 UTC]

What I said before was a joke, I said I wanted to be a vegan when I was young... around 8 or 9 but
when dinner time came a few hours later later I changed my mind (we had grilled steak ) And when I
say I like almost anything I was talking about cultural foods, like Indian, Spanish, and Irish cuisine.

Oh and yes I have a dog and a cat.

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poderiu In reply to 1Walkingblind [2011-02-04 22:05:59 +0000 UTC]

You have a dog and a cat, and do you love them? Would you mind if I killed them and eat them?

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-05 05:46:10 +0000 UTC]

That's stupid.

Talking about invading someone's house and taking their pets for food is not equal to hunting game or raising livestock.

Stupid comments like that make your kind look like fruit loops.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-05 11:49:14 +0000 UTC]

You pick the only comment where I use irony it really shows your seriousness in participating in this discution. If you read the other 50 comments I am sure you can find more interesting comments.

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-05 20:24:07 +0000 UTC]

Read 50 comments? Are you crazy, I have naked chicks to look at.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-05 20:26:29 +0000 UTC]

Perhaps you should open the "Naked Chicks Group"... "political stuff" can be boring...

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-06 01:07:04 +0000 UTC]

This topic isn't political though.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-06 01:13:08 +0000 UTC]

The topic is political, very political. But for some deep sleepers it´s just random faith-divers.

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-06 01:34:53 +0000 UTC]

It's not political, it's maybe cultural.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-06 02:08:13 +0000 UTC]

It´s political because it´s about capitalism. It´s capitalism because it´s all about some US, UK and EU livestock corporations that dominate the global market and create the impacts that are hidden from consumers like you. It´s cultural because it´s about cultural conventions that livestock corporations uses in advertising to cheat consumers with false belifs in order to have billionary profits by the cost of animals, enviornment, resources and human lifes.

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-06 03:05:43 +0000 UTC]

Man has been eating meat since before he could speak.

If you're for 'cleaning' up the industry and setting better standards or something, I'm fine with that.

But the mere act of consuming meat is not political.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-06 05:01:57 +0000 UTC]

It looks like for some "man" "eating meat" avoids to think with brains instead of thinking with stomach.

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-06 09:02:53 +0000 UTC]

There is nothing to avoid. There is no reason why humans should abandon meat consumption.

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poderiu In reply to EbolaSparkleBear [2011-02-06 11:47:31 +0000 UTC]

I give you 4 reasons based on scientific facts, not on opinions:

REASON 1. The quantity of vegetables and cereals produced to feed animals in livestocks would be enough to end world starvation. For example: "The 4.8 pounds of grain fed to cattle to produce one pound of beef for human beings represents a colossal waste of resources in a world still teeming with people who suffer from profound hunger and malnutrition.

According to the British group Vegfam, a 10-acre farm can support 60 people growing soybeans, 24 people growing wheat, 10 people growing corn and only two producing cattle. Britain—with 56 million people—could support a population of 250 million on an all-vegetable diet. Because 90 percent of U.S. and European meat eaters" grain consumption is indirect (first being fed to animals), westerners each consume 2,000 pounds of grain a year. Most grain in underdeveloped countries is consumed directly.
Somalian famine victims line up for food handouts. Producing a pound of beef requires 4.8 pounds of grain, and critics of our modern agricultural system say that the spread of meat-based diets aggravates world hunger.


While it is true that many animals graze on land that would be unsuitable for cultivation, the demand for meat has taken millions of productive acres away from farm inventories. The cost of that is incalculable. As Diet For a Small Planet author Frances Moore Lappé writes, imagine sitting down to an eight-ounce steak. "Then imagine the room filled with 45 to 50 people with empty bowls in front of them. For the "feed cost" of your steak, each of their bowls could be filled with a full cup of cooked cereal grains."

Harvard nutritionist Jean Mayer estimates that reducing meat production by just 10 percent in the U.S. would free enough grain to feed 60 million people. Authors Paul and Anne Ehrlich note that a pound of wheat can be grown with 60 pounds of water, whereas a pound of meat requires 2,500 to 6,000 pounds"

REASON 2. Livestock industry is the second or third sector that most pollutes the planet. An example: "The threat of pollution from intensive livestock and poultry farms is a national problem." [1]

According to the EPA, over 200 manure discharges and spills from U.S. animal farms between 1990 and 1997 have killed more than a billion fish. Animal feedlots can contaminate nearby well water with high levels of nitrates, which have been linked to miscarriages in humans as well as "blue baby" syndrome in infants.

Manure lagoons and spray fields from animal agriculture also pollute the air by emitting ammonia, methane, and hydrogen sulfide.

According to a May 2003 article in the New York Times, "Around industrial hog farms across the country, people say their sickness rolls in with the wind. It brings headaches that do not go away and trips to the emergency room for children whose lungs suddenly close up. People young and old have become familiar with inhalers, nebulizers and oxygen tanks. They complain of diarrhea, nosebleeds, earaches and lung burns."


REASON 3. Corps eaters in the most developed countries do present the highest rates of various and serious health problems. For example:

"There is some evidence to suggest that the human digestive system was not designed for meat consumption and processing (see sidebar), which could help explain why there is such high incidence of heart disease, hypertension, and colon and other cancers. Add to this the plethora of drugs and antibiotics applied as a salve to unnatural factory farming conditions and growing occurrences of meat-based diseases like E. coli and Salmonella, and there's a compelling health-based case for vegetarianism.

The factory-farmed chicken, cow or pig of today is among the most medicated creatures on Earth. "For sheer overprescription, no doctor can touch the American farmer," reported Newsweek. According to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report, the use of antimicrobial drugs for nontherapeutic purposes—mainly to increase factory farm growth rates—has risen 50 percent since 1985.

Ninety percent of commercially available eggs come from chickens raised on factory farms, and six billion "broiler" chickens emerge from the same conditions. Ninety percent of U.S.-raised pigs are closely confined at some point during their lives. According to the book Animal Factories by Jim Mason and Peter Singer, pork producers lose $187 million annually to chronic diseases such as dysentery, cholera, trichinosis and other ailments fostered by factory farming. Drugs are used to reduce stress levels in animals crowded together unnaturally, although 20 percent of the chickens die of stress or disease anyway.

One result of these conditions is a high rate of meat contamination. Up to 60 percent of chickens sold in supermarkets are infected with Salmonella entenidis, which can pass to humans if the meat is not heated to a high enough temperature. Another pathogen, Campylobacter, can also spread from chickens to human beings with deadly results.

In 1997, more than 25 million pounds of hamburger were found to be contaminated with E. coli 0157:H7, which is spread by fecal matter. The bacteria are a particular problem in hamburger, because the grinding process spreads it throughout the meat. E. coli, the leading cause of kidney failure in young children, was the culprit when three children died of food poisoning after eating at a Seattle Jack in the Box restaurant in 1993.
Business as usual at the animal farm: From left: chicken debeaking, cow confinement, poultry transport and hog crowding.

The British epidemic of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, which began in 1986 and has affected nearly 200,000 cattle, jumps to beef-eating humans in the form of the always-fatal Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD). The CDC reports that an average of 10 to 15 people have contracted CJD from meat in Britain each year since it was first detected in 1994. In 1998, the British Medical Association warned in a report to Members of Parliament, "The current state of food safety in Britain is such that all raw meat should be assumed to be contaminated with pathogenic organisms." In 1997, it added, Salmonella or E. coli infected a million people in Britain. BSE spreads through cattle that are fed contaminated central nervous-system tissue from other animals. "Its future magnitude and geographic distribution
cannot yet be predicted," the CDC reported. In the U.S., deer have been affected with chronic wasting disease, which has many similarities to British BSE, though a definitive link to humans has not been established.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), more than 10 million animals that were dying or diseased when slaughtered were "rendered" (processed into a protein-rich meal) in 1995 for addition to pig, poultry and pet food. Animals that collapse at the slaughterhouse door or during transportation are called "downers," and their corpses are routinely processed for human consumption. A 2001 Zogby America poll conducted for the group Farm Sanctuary found that 79 percent of Americans oppose this practice, which could be an entry point for BSE into the U.S. meat supply. Farm Sanctuary petitioned the USDA in 1998 to end processing of downer meat for human consumption, but its petition was denied.

One of the major western exports is a taste for meat, though it brings with it increased risk of heart disease and cancer. Clearly, there is something seriously wrong with a diet and food production system resulting in such waste, endemic disease and human health threats."


REASON 4. Vegan people do present them selfs helthier and they last longer.
The American Dietetic Association says in a position statement, "Appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, are nutritionally adequate and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases."

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EbolaSparkleBear In reply to poderiu [2011-02-06 20:42:36 +0000 UTC]

None of that has anything to do with the fact that humans eat meat.

Your argument is still slanted and totally avoids the fact that the human animal prefers meat as a part of it's diet.

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