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ppgrainbow — Tracing is Legal
Published: 2009-02-13 20:29:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 7415; Favourites: 92; Downloads: 0
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This is my first submission for the 2009 calendar year and before you start slamming me and making further gross misrepresentations in regards to this stamp about tracing and I am only neutral on the issue:Tracing is legal under the most circumstances and dA has professional lawyers who clearly investigated the issue. They found that it's okay to do it as long as:
1. It belongs only in the Fanart category.
2. Proper credit is given to the original artist. This includes permission and linking back to the original artwork.
3. No profit is ever made out of traced imagery at all.
4. The artist who traced the drawing has no intention to claim the image as their own. Otherwise, it's considered art theft and misrepresentation.
5. The original artist doesn't object towards the said deviant who traced the image. The original artist has every right to report it to the admins if they object and have it removed.
Many professional artists do not like people who trace their art as it is considered an insult to them if it's reused elsewhere.
Please DO NOT brand deviants who trace drawings as copiers in their entirety. Copying art in its entirety can be seen as theft and misrepresentation.
Comments on this stamp are closed. The reason is that only a small percentage of users agree in a neutralised matter. Totally disagreeing with this matter on the legality of tracing is unfortunate.
I cannot stress to the fullest extent that if you are unable to deal with it, then there are other websites where you can post your artwork.
If you still have a problem with this, I suggest that you note me privately.
If you are a subscriber, you can put this in your journal or shoutboard by using : thumb112764560 : somewhere in the field.
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...? Well, I never received anything. I guess I have to subscribe to all of the dA staff folks to get it.
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I'll update the artists comment momentarily. I had the feeling that I took it a bit too far even if people are entitled to their own opinion on this stamp.
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okay, thanks for letting us know!
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i disagree
tracing should not be uploaded into any category
tracing is something you hang up in your bedroom
or put on your moms fridge for an UNDESERVED
sense of self accomplishment.
ITS NOT ART
NOR IS IT ANYFORM
its proof you know how to hold a pencil
NOT USE IT
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You probably didn't read my description correct and even if you read it all, you have a right to disagree in regards to the tracing issue and it's rather old now, but you probably don't understand this more.
Tracing can be legally acceptable ONLY if deviants use legal stock sources and poses that they created from a 3D rendering programme such as Poser and Bryce, but if someone traces others drawings WITHOUT ANY SORT OF PROPER PERMISSION or if they COPY ART IN THEIR ENTIRETY, then it is considered THEFT.
Deviants should NEVER BRAND deviants as TRACERS in copiers in their entirety. I keep saying this before and they don't want to listen nor have traced works in any category EVEN IF IT'S LEGALLY ACCEPTABLE FROM LEGAL STOCK SOURCES.
I'm sorry if I'm over reacting.
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nah i don't think you aver reacting at all
your just getting your point accross
and yes i did read the description
i just don't really think tracing is art
i think refrencing is
if you draw but look at a pic. thats fine with me
but flat out putting paper ontop and redoing it isnt
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Tracing has never been art to begin with, ya know.
It's just is a reproduction or derivative based on original artwork and people have to credit the original piece.
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yea exactly
and if it was never art
why upload it
=]
right?
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Well...if deviants uploaded a traced drawing that came from another website, I'm afraid that the deviant doesn't have the right to upload the traced drawing unless they ask the original artist first.
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yea i feel the same way
but i think if it was purely traced
or just recoloured
it shouldn't be uploaded
but if the altered it in there own way
they most definitely should
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i think its ok if you just practice it, in fact sometimes i trace my own OC's because sometimes i cant get them exactly the way i want them to. Some people photocopy what they've drawn, whatever works out for you. Anyway, i have a lot of designer friends and they do it too, so why are people so against it?
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Thanks for the comment!
Tracing can be a tool to practice works as much as possible. This can include the usage of photos (including legal stock photos), 3D rendering characters that you created and art pieces not found online.
Now on the other side of the coin, why are people against it? Many artists dislike tracing, because deviants trace for popularity purposes and/or profit from art. I don't find this acceptable at all.
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tracing is good if your just becoming artist but not if you do it for an art style. you trace for reference not for art styles
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Correct. That is what I'm saying.
If people trace for art styles, then they must credit the original artist, link back to the original art piece and not profit from it. If deviants trace others work and claim it as their own, then it's considered theft. The same thing goes for copying art in their entirety.
Sure tracing can be a form a copying, but it is not copying art in their entirety. Deviants should never brand tracers as copiers in their entirety.
You have a fair point there.
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and I see your point is VERY reasonable, this is a good stamp if people understand the points behind it
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Yep it sure is! I've been trying so hard to make a point, but it seems that some people don't get it. There is no such thing as being a supporter for tracing in my opinion, but either people are neutral or totally against it. Just because people are against tracing or have every right to voice their opinion, does not give them the right to get downright nasty and attack people who may or may not trace.
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It gets me mad tho when people trace something and put it up in their gallery claiming it as their own but its clearly copied but then they get all mad if you say anything to them.
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I know how you feel.
Tracing and claiming it as their own is considered a insult to most artists everywhere.
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I think its really wrong. People learn nothing from tracing; only drawing from life can really benefit those who wish to transcend from mere tracer to artist.
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You have your opinion on this matter. It's not everyone fault that people are totally against tracing no matter how hard I try to clarify this matter.
I believe that if they want to trace, they should only use legal stock photos, personal photos and 3D rendering programmes that they created.
It doesn't make it right for a lot of artists to find that someone got caught tracing their art without their permission that that they trace for popularity purposes.
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Seems like a lot of trouble to show off your unoriginality. :/
I mean, sure you can learn from it, but why bother posting it? If you trace it "well enough", most critiques you receive will essentially be on the original artists drawing.
I guess it just makes little sense to me.
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Well, your opinion is fair.
If the artist in question if tracing, I believe that they should NOT post it at all for the safety of artists.
If the deviant wants to become a artist, they have to learn how to draw on their own. Yes, they can trace from legal stock sources and poses that they created from a 3D rendering programme such as Poser and Bryce, but if someone traces other's drawings without any sort of proper permission or if they copy art in their entirety, then it is considered theft.
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Ah, yes. This is quite true.
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Seriously? I mean, seriously? Not to poop on your parade here, but why even make a stamp like this?
And tracing doesn't add to improvement...Maybe copying another image to try and recreate an effect, but tracing someone else's art is just lazy.
My opinion.
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You have every right to voice your opinion regarding the tracing issue. Despite the fact that I made this stamp in light of the two news articles that $chix0r and $realitysquared made on tracing, the admins could not please everyone. 
My point is that while tracing has never added improvement, people who trace should never be branded as copiers in their entirety. That's where the confusion takes place. Tracing without crediting is theft and copying art in their entirety can be seen as theft too.
It upsets a lot of artists who believe that someone has traced their artwork for profit and popularity.
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I love it, and I thank you for your efforts in such a cause that involves us all as artists.
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Thanks so much for the comment on this stamp! I strongly appreciate it.
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Usually, I don't mind tracing too much, but it bothers me how people trace for pageviews (and one even admitted that they trace for pageviews).
To me, tracing is like training wheels. And like training wheels, you've got to stop using it some day.
Also, I asked my Business Law teacher about tracing. She said that tracing can be considered plagiarism to a certain degree. (bolded so no-one can miss it 
I asked my brother the same thing, and he said that it depends.
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Good point. It's sad that none of the deviants have fav'd this stamp nor liked it.
Tracing without proper crediting can be treated as plagiarism. The same thing goes for directly copying a image in its entirety. Also, tracing for pageviews is no help to the artist either.
Just because certain people dislike tracing to a certain degree, does NOT give them the right to be downright vicious and display inflammatory behaviour. And deviants should never label tracers as copiers in their entirety.
That's just not a civilised way to handle people who have been caught tracing when one certain artist says that they have no right to reuse their artwork on their account.
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Agreed.
I don't think people should be rude about other people tracing. It does annoy me how some people trace for pageviews, but I don't go to them and yell at or insult them.
I just let them do what they want to.
Oh, and I'm just wondering... what do you mean that no-one has fav'd this stamp?
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Apparently, too many people are disappointed with dA's rules over tracing. Many deviants think that they hate it and with these two news articles, it confused them to a point where they got upset and left the site. Those are one of the reasons why many people wouldn't fav this stamp.
On a brighter prospective, I do agree with your thoughts regarding the deviants behaviour over artists who annoyingly trace for pageviews.
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Tracing helps people improve. ^^
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In the last month, I explain what tracing is about and sadly, some people don't get it.
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i dont mind tracing, its a form of development in my eyes.
im glad that da have got a catagory for it and if there any problems with the original artist they can just asked for it to be taken down, simple^^
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Great comment.
I'm pretty glad that dA has a Fanart category for it even though most people find placing traced drawings there unacceptable.
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You forgot 'does not directly trace and only directly trace'. There needs to be some original content to the image.
Thought that would be good to add.
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>> does not directly trace and only directly trace
Oh and I'm a bit confused by that comment. What do you mean, "does not directly trace and only direct trace" what?
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Basically, you can trace parts of an image, but not the whole thing. A large part of the image needs to have non-traced elements or elements drawn completely by you.
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That's correct. I should add that in to the artist's comments later on.
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Yeah. Thanks for the help. I'll edit the stamp and let you know. ^_^
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I'm tired of people erupting like volcanoes over the fact that DA allows tracing. I personally don't see tracing as a way to learn properly. I've traced before, but it was just for fun. I'm tired of people going crazy over it.
I don't see tracing as much of an insult. In fact, it shows how much of a better artist I am than they are, so yay!!! Well, I mean if they just trace and nothing else.
Just tracing an image does not make you an artist. But I think coloring it yourself can.
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Thanks for the comment. Many people find dA allowing tracing unacceptable and "disgusting"...and they have expected quite a bit of a bad behaviour over the tracing issue.
I know that you used to trace off and on, but people should learn how to stop doing it someday.
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It's like they practice a religion where tracing is a deadly sin. I agree. Thanks for favoriting my stamp, btw.
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Tracing, which is unfounded in the law should never be treated as a deadly sin at all, ya know.
Thanks so much for the additional commentary once again. ^_^
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I personally don't even like to trace but in my opinion, anti-tracing campaigns are pointless. It's just a lost cause.
Treating artists with equal respect is something that will never EVER happen. People need to stop treating this as a surprise because there are no such thing as "last straws."
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