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Published: 2017-02-21 09:16:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 19634; Favourites: 249; Downloads: 96
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Maybe the foal inside Velvet Sparkle's belly.
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I love the art. Is this going somewhere? I would love to see it out.
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Seriously why would the show not bring this up
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That's a good point, this would make a very good episode
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Yeah, like that one w Moondancer
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I get the feeling that this is a fear of all mothers when they send their children to college.
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Am I allowed to make a comic dub on this lovely comic? ^^
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What's the backstory behind this? Why Twilight Velvet pregnant?
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This is so Sad! I think I know who she feels because Twilight and Shining Armor were Unique when they were young and they ended up being great when they got older and they got more separated from there Parents Twilight Became Princess Celestia Faithful Student and Became a Princess of Friendship and Shining Armor Became the Captain of the Royal Guards and then Married his true love Cadance and moved half way of Equestria to Crystal Empire and they Had a beautiful foal Flurry heart Twilight and Shining Armor are unable to see there Parents a lot and that cause Twilight Velvet to be in pain for all those moons!
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Personally that's the reason why I don't even like Cadence and Shining Armor. Don't get me wrong, I do think they're unique but they just piss me, you know? The prime reason is their part in the storytelling. They were sent to the Crystal Empire(Once again I'm telling somebody that it isn't actually an Empire.) and what did they do? They stayed... Princess Cadence decided to stay...why? If you weren't raised by your parents and had gotten married in the future, wouldn't YOU want to be as close to your Husband/Wife's parents?
Another thing that aggravates me about them is they decided to live in an Empire located in the middle of a "Frozen Wasteland" where at any moment the frigid extreme conditions of the north can wipe out not just the City but its inhabitants, including Shining and Cadence.
This is why when I start writing TV shows I'm making sure my storytelling is logical and absolute! And to be honest, I was actually hopeful that Flurry Heart would've destroyed the Crystal City. If you analyze the show in full, including the comics, it really has no place. But I guess you can blame Hasbro for that, they REALLY needed that toy marketing.
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I hear you, buddy.
Except for your mention to the Crystal Empire not actually being an empire. First off, I looked at your journal and gallery; not a single discourse was found, especially not one where you so much as mention the Crystal Empire.
Second, how is it not an empire? It was ruled by a queen, and later a king, and now a prince and princess. How is that not an empire?
The Crystal Empire bears several narrative red flags that hitherto exist. However, it not being an actual empire is in question because it makes no sense.
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An empire is made up of different countries, provinces, or states. Sort of like how the British have the British Empire. Or the Unities States has 50 States. The only way they can be called an Empire is if they are Unionized. United States and United Kingdom. Of course the British Empire stretches far beyond the UK, I'm not really what other countries the Queen Rules over but I do know Ireland and India used to be a part of it.
And the reasons why you won't find much on my page is I go to school for HVACR training. I'm focused more on my career and a story I want to sell than a fan-fiction. You couldn't find a discourse because I don't care about a journal and I don't really plan on finishing my fan-fiction until MLP: FiM is over since it will be focused on what happens AFTER the show is over with. Do you know how annoying it is to write over plot holes?
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I see.
I'm not the only one saving a fan fiction for after the show ends, either? Fascinating!
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Cadence's cutie mark is the crystal heart and the crystal ponies(when brought out of their PSTD state) called her the Crystal Princess, so her staying makes sense. I wanna say she was the ruler of the Crystal Empire before it was sealed away given the two facts I just stated, but given that Cadence looked younger when Twilight was a filly seems to contradict that. Is it ever stated how long ago it was sealed away? If you buy into the all alicorns are immortal theory it could theoretically work. It would just depend on how fast they age before stopping on eternal youth.
Anyway, putting theory aside their old despot ruler Sombra was taken out, and they needed someone new to rule the land and keep it safe. None of the crystal ponies really were fit for that, as they might slip back into PTSD mode without an outsider keeping watch over them.
Your line about "any moment" they could be wiped out by the temperature is inaccurate, as its shown the Crystal Heart serves the function of not letting that happen along with its other abilities. None of the good guys would harm it, and Flurry Heart's power was brought under control by Sunburst. So it is a possibility, but it's not really an ongoing threat.
Not to rain on your parade, but I think you need to tone down your ego a little bit. No matter how good the writing is there will always be someone that can find a flaw in it. Even big hits like the Harry Potter series or Dragonball Z have had inconsistencies or plot holes from time to time. I write fanfiction for the show, and while it all makes sense in my head when I write it there are times people can point out flaws that I didn't think of or weaknesses in the plot that needed to be addressed.
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I don't know where my ego came into play but alright. You forget that in the book 'Twilight and the Crystal Heart Spell' Cadence reveals to Twilight and the audience reading the book that she wasn't born with her REAL parents. And after the evil sorceress, I forgot her name, was shown how important love is by her she turned into an Alicorn, although she was originally a Pegasus. That was when Celestia found her and took her in and adopted her, because she was only 9 or 10, but only as an Aunt. And yes the book is canon, or at least that's what I was told.
My line about "any moment" is a hypothesis because if the Crystal Heart failed to do what it's designed to do then...well you know. You don't need a baby to use Hyper Voice to shatter it, it can just stop working on its own.
Why would the Crystal Ponies go into PTSD? They were only like that when Sombra was around. Then again, if the City WASN'T sealed away how exactly would it have been Governed? That's the reason why I say Cadence really doesn't need to be there. With or without an outside Ruler it would be able to Govern itself with Celestia keeping a watchful eye on it, which Celestia implied that was her intent when she was conversing with Twilight before her mission. Luna wouldn't look after it because she always thought that her duty was to Rule Equestria with Celestia, so that can be opted out for suggestion. To me it just seemed like Cadence was uplifted by the acknowledgement as being titled the Crystal Princess and just begged Celestia to stay and Rule it. Plus we were never truly told if Celestia ordered Cadence to rule there or not, just her and Shining Armor were there to defend it from impending doom. As I said before, I would take Family over a Kingdom any day, even if they weren't really my blood parents.
The Crystal City was sealed away by Sombra's curse a few years before Luna's unfortunate transformation and banishment since it was shown that Celestia and Luna fought Sombra and sealed him away in ice using the Elements of Harmony. I theorize that it happened anywhere between 4 or 6 years prior to Nightmare Moon's arrival.
The thing about Alicorns being "eternal" never sat well with me? Especially since Twilight said, "How are you able to perform an age spell? That's only for high level Unicorn's!" to Trixie during their bout in season three. Plus the evidence was sitting in plain sight. Luna was reformed back to her normal self and she appeared smaller and younger. Then come season 2 she appeared still young but much bigger as if she had hit an abnormal growth spurt. Of course you can argue that her "regaining her power" is to blame but if she had regained her power then she would've remained the same size, especially since we can see Luna in a smaller size come the season 4 debut during the flashbacks. Since Celestia is the Proctor of a magic school I would think she applies as being a high level Unicorn(Alicorn) and could've possibly used an age spell on herself for a thousand years so that not only can she see her sister return but keep doing what she was asked by Starswirl himself to do, raise the Sun for the day. Maybe he taught her the age spell so she could remain eternal? Remember that the Unicorn's used their magic to transit the Sun and Moon, Day and Night. Without Celestia and/or Luna the Unicorn's would be forced to transit day and night themselves.
The reason why I mentioned my ability to write wasn't supposed to be misinterpreted as being an Egoist, I was merely showing that as a writer I can see how things could be different or how I would write a story. I don't really write fan-fictions because I always get lost with the writing if the characters aren't original. If you want to know why I mentioned it in the first place it is because I'm currently writing an original story that I intend to publish and sell in the future, with ideas for more in consideration. I wasn't being egotistic I was just stating something I enjoy doing. If you wanted to see a flaw you should read Book 4 in my story, I wanted it to reference something I love dearly but it came out a little...bleh. XD
Just to nitpick a little but it's "Reign" not rain when you say, "Reign on your parade."
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Well, I've only ever seen the show. Any of the books or comics I haven't delved into, so any auxillary information I don't know.
Why would the crystal ponies still have PTSD? I'd say just look at "Do princesses dream of magic sheep?" Luna was tormenting herself on a nightly basis for four seasons out of guilt and fear she might revert back to her old self, even though she had been absolved of guilt and forgiven. Who's to say they couldn't dissolve into their fears as well? It isn't like King Sombra could be the only threat to them.
If someone else, let's just use Tirek as an example, were to come traipsing in they might very well break under the thought of being enslaved or tortured again. If the Crystal Heart is powered by 'the love and light' inside them it wouldn't last then. Unless of course there's a strong ruler them to encourage them to fight on. So I still believe it fits. Obviously the CE doesn't have a perma shield up, otherwise how could King Sombra have taken it in the first place?
King Sombra was likely the ruler of it in the past, given that as King he had to be ruling over SOMETHING. But then he became corrupted somehow, and disabled the Crystal Heart.
Celestia made it sound like the CE was very important to the safety of the rest of Equestria. "If hope and love rules than those things are reflected across Equestria, but if hatred and fear take hold" or something to that effect. That could be a secondary reason they'd want an alicorn to rule over it. Given the disasters that still go on though it seems the only effect it has is creating pretty lights.
"This is why when I start writing TV shows I'm making sure my storytelling is logical and absolute!"
All I was trying to say is that no writer is perfect. You see flaws in the MLP world and then came off dismissive, like, "I wouldn't make mistakes like THAT!" But there's no such thing as a perfect book with no flaws. It's just the way I took your statement.
Your nitpick is incorrect. "Reign" refers to ruling something, like the alicorns. They reign over the night and day, etc.
Rain is the stuff that comes from clouds. Hence, "raining on your parade." How much fun is a parade going be if its pouring rain and getting you soaked?
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Yeah... When I think about it I hope season 7 shows more Twilight Velvet and Night light...
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I mean when you grow up you don't talk to your parents as much, but you don't stop talking to them
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That's quite out of character. Twilight's mom won't be that selfish.
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Out of character? We've only seen her like 3 times, and only once with a speaking role at the end of Flurry Heart's Crystalling. We really know nothing about her personality. I would label this as "Baby leaving the nest" syndrome. She's having a hard time letting go. But I would see this as a temporary thing anyway. Twilight knows her mom's feelings now so would make more of an effort to spend time with her. Then Velvet would settle down.
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This may be somewhat irrelevant to your discussion here, but you seem like someone I can ask this question. Is Twilight about to have a new sibling in the newer episodes?
Not that I care that much; the S6 premiere was nail-in-the-coffin to my interest in the show, but I can't help feeling curious about this.
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No. This is just in reference to the comic above.
Baby alicorn killed the show for you, I'm assuming? I don't really see why? She'd probably show up as infrequently as the Cake Twins.
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So Twilight isn't having a baby sibling?
And there are actually 3 reasons I don't watch the newer episodes:
After hearing Starlight Glimmer's hamstringed "sob story" about having lost her friend—the very incident that made her an evil dictator who was so psychotic as to take revenge against a pony who crossed her by creating a freaking time paradox that nearly destroyed the world—had instantly reunited with her friend in the next episode. He wasn't alienated from her (x2 bonus if by an arch-villain), leading to a potential long-term character arc like the CMC's cutie mark crusade or Rainbow Dash trying to become a Wonderbolt—nope, one argument later they are back together within 1 episode. There went yet another initiative Haber had missed.
The second nail in the coffin was that in The Crystalling, the Royal Sisters' dialogue FOR SOME ODD REASON had to establish that ponies have never been born alicorns before Flurry Heart was. Why they couldn't just say that alicorn birth was rare and preserve the mystery of Celestia's and Luna's past, I don't know, and I don't care because I'm already tired of such buzzkills as it is.
Finally, despite how absolutely dreadful Josh Haber has been at writing—Castle-Mania was underwhelming; Simple Ways' main plot was basically a Rarity torture-porn; Equestria Girls: Friendship Games was... another EQG movie, nothing special; and Cutie Re-Mark was too busy using previous S-ranked villains as fan service to substantiate Starlight becoming Twilight's first apprentice—he is not only still on the writing staff, but is now an editor.
The third, as a matter of fact, is what me renouncing the show boils down to. Every episode Josh Haber has written is either boring or exasperating; no in-between. It's as if he wants his episodes to be bad. I don't know why the hell he's still on the staff, but the fact he still is after Cutie Re-Mark and The Crystalling among others, and that no amount of feedback kept several episodes from earlier seasons from becoming the mind-numbing messes they are, just makes me sick to think about. That's what kills the show for me.
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There's a fanfic on fimfiction that might interest you called "That's it?" It's a short story where, instead of being understanding about Starlight's history, she gets annoyed and pissed off, and calls Starlight out on all her bullcrap. www.fimfiction.net/story/30581…
I 100% agree that Starlight's backstory was handled HORRIBLY! They could have done a few less alternate timelines to flesh it out a bit more. When I first saw it it annoyed me to no end. Starlight being let off with little to no punishment is a given with redeemed characters in this show, but it wouldn't have been so grating if they had dedicated more time to Sunburst. Like if it showed her writing letters to him, or attempting to make contact and being ignored. Or even having him boast about his cutie mark and acting like he was too good for her and calling her a blank flank like Diamond Tiara. Any of that wouldn't have made what she did right, but at least it would have felt more believable. What we got was "he left, never heard from him again" with no idea of what happened.
To be fair to Starlight, though, she didn't know she was creating alternate timelines where all the villains ruled up until Twilight dragged her into the last one. Seeing the reality for herself is what got her to stand down.
For point number 2 you're off a little bit. They didn't say Alicorns were never born, but that an alicorn had never been born in Equestria, which wasn't established until the three tribes united. It's been established that Twilight and Cadance are artificial alicorns, in that they were another race before being granted alicornhood, while Celestia and Luna were born alicorns. Twilight and Cadance's manes don't do the flowing thing. As far as we know Celestia and Luna don't have kids, so Cadance would be the first alicorn to actually have a kid, so alicorn birth being passed down in the genes is canon.
For point three I don't really get it. In a show where different writers are writing episodes there will always be duds. You might not like his stuff, but other people might. There are episodes I hate and episodes I love, so why stop watching the show entirely just because of a few bad apples? Rewatch the ones you love and forget the ones that suck.
If you're literally feeling sick to your stomach because of one writer you don't like than I think you need to stop taking the show so seriously. At the end of the day the show was never meant for us, but for the children. It was just good fortune that it appealed to us so much to create a new fandom.
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The only reason Starlight's time paradoxes led to dystopias was because for some reason, the writers had to treat the Sonic Rainboom as the reason Twilight and her friends had formed the friendship that defeated Nightmare Moon and other villains. Now, try re-watching the series pilot AND The Cutie Mark Chronicles, and tell me, exactly what relevance did the Rainboom have to their unity? None; why? Because it was the catalyst for how they got their cutie marks, nothing else. What drew them together was MEETING EACH OTHER, for fuck's sake! Nice continuity, there, writers.
So I can get behind Starlight's unawareness of what the time paradoxes led to, but not for the same reason as most people.
Your argument with point 2 doesn't even make any sense. Saying that alicorns had never been born in Equestria and then saying that the two sisters were born alicorns is called a contradiction. If alicorns were never born in Equestria before, then they'd never been born before, period. That might have been valid if there were a whole separate world from Equestria in which the sisters were born. However, that has yet to be established; until then I have no reason to believe that is the case.
And if Twilight and Cadance really were established as "artificial" alicorns, that scene shouldn't have even existed. Again, if the sisters were perfectly cool about alicorn birth, all it would mean is preserving the mystery of their past, not to mention the potential for a possible Celestia and Luna prequel series. Saying Twilight and Cadance were "artificial alicorns" does nothing except tying a loose end that shouldn't have even been there in the first place (if there's a term for that trope, it escapes me). And this is exactly why writers have been told, time and time again, not to use exposition so lightly!
And Josh Haber's inadequacy as a writer is not just my opinion. Critics care who writes or develops what you watch or play because the writers/developers are completely responsible for it. What was presented was presented by them. If I reviewed Sonic the Hedgehog 2006, SEGA and Sonic Team would factor into said review because THEY presented what was in the game. If you just bash the characters, which are creations and aren't real people, and completely ignore the crucial detail that the writers had brought it into being, then you are dead as a critic and as a reviewer.
I get uncomfortable of the fact that specifically Josh Haber is still writing, particularly the major two-parters, because I've observed the patterns, i.e. recurring pitfalls and red flags, in his writing. His writing is still riddled with inconsistency and strikes against elements that made the show good in the first place; he still bogs down the pacing with exposition and by repeating plots that matter far less than the others in an episode, leaving no room to substantiate the plot points. And even when he's not repetitive or inconsistent, his writing is still bland and makes me scream internally, "TELL A STORY!!!," key example being in Equestria Girls: Friendship Games when the characters spend most of the time walking around, talking about something not worth caring about.
As for everyone having different opinions of everything, that doesn't particularly change anything. The fact you can't please everyone is never a good excuse for laziness. If that's why you fail to understand that's my problem, then you have quite a bit to learn about the responsibilities writing comes with. And if that's Josh's excuse for common writing pitfalls that should be avoided like the plague, then that's another sign of the very laziness that makes ANY narrative fall apart, easily alienating consumers and supporters, which need I add kept your show fresh in the first place.
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For point 1 I'd say it makes sense. True, they became friends through meeting one another, but would that have still happened had the Rainboom not happened? For Dash, Applejack, and Rarity they likely would get the same marks, just at a later time. I think they messed up Fluttershy, as the animals just went away in the Remark scene when they were so comfortable with her earlier. Pinkie is iffy, but given how rare she says rainbows are she might never have gotten the same mark. And Twilight is the biggest problem of all. She wouldn't have become Celestia's student, which means she might never have gotten to Ponyville in the first place. Her failure might have ended up stunting her magic out of shame, or leading it to eventually explode out of control like when the Rainboom happened, which may or may not have been spotted by Celestia. So it could have gone either way there. So all in all there's no guarantee it would have turned out the same had the Rainboom not happened.
Going back to point two: What exactly is Equestria? For example, the three tribes of ponies lived somewhere else, their fighting riled up the windigos, and they went somewhere else, and then named that place Equestria when they made up. So I don't find it contradictory at all. I don't see why there has to be a whole separate world. There could just be a different continent.
As an Earth example, let's say the three tribes started out in South America, then when the windigos happened they traveled to North America, and eventually labelled their new land the United States when they made up. If Equestria is North America and the Royal Sisters came from Europe or Asia then "Equestria has never seen an alicorn birth" doesn't contradict anything, as they had come from a completely different place altogether. I highly doubt that Equestria makes up the ENTIRE WORLD. Otherwise, the place the three tribes originally came from would still be part of Equestria, which wouldn't make much sense.
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Looking at the map of Equestria there'e enough land shown for N/S America, and parts of Asia and Africa. Of course we don't know how big the world the ponies live in are, but we can see there at least potions of two other continents, one where the dragons live, and one where Griffonstone is. I think that makes it enough of a possibility.
I haven't read the actual book but a brief description of "The journal of the two sisters" mentions Celestia and Luna being taught by the "other alicorns" insinuating they come from a land where alicorns are common, or at least more common than in Equestria.
Looking at another thread Luna also says "It is beyond our understanding." Which still doesn't definitively break my statement. Perhaps they can't understand how a created alicorn and a unicorn made an alicorn baby. It would be like if you had orange hair you might expect your child to have the same. But I DYED my hair orange and still had an orange haired kid. Genetically it wouldn't make sense from a human perspective, but if being turned into an alicorn changes your DNA accordingly it makes sense from a pony perspective.
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Nah, Twilight loves Celestia like potencial partner.
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Wowowo, stop! That's a lot of text to read at once.
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WOW, you both need to talk, really talk. Better yet go out and get drunk. but not so drunk that your mom will vent on Celestia.
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