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Published: 2018-03-11 07:13:54 +0000 UTC; Views: 3202; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 1
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I've touched on this subject 5 years here -The argument still keeps going though, as TrueSonicSpirit talked about it here to -
The argument keeps going into the games being light hearted. Don't think I need to go far into this for anyone with common sense, but just for something to add, I'm going to put the definition of light hearted here.
light·heart·ed
[ˌlītˈhärdəd]
ADJECTIVE
light-hearted (adjective)
cheerful and carefree:
"excited, lighthearted chatter"
synonyms: carefree · cheerful · cheery · happy · merry · glad · playful · jolly · jovial · joyful · gleeful · ebullient · high-spirited · lively · blithe · bright · sunny · buoyant · vivacious · bubbly · jaunty · bouncy · breezy · entertaining · amusing · diverting · chirpy · upbeat · gay
There was this comment by a stalker of mind who's recently been on SonicSpirit to.
CloneWarrior85 2 days ago Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've played past Green Hill Zone and I still think so. I mean the scenery never turned into something like out of a Killzone or Resident Evil or Doom game or something like that, for crying out loud! You're taking it way too seriously.
Besides, if you think the problem is that most of us can't remember or played past Green Hill Zone, then how comes we've been seeing a lot of zones like Oil Ocean, Metropolis, Metallic Madness, Lava Reef, Sky Sanctuary, and the Death Egg, in the newer installments like Generations, Mania, and Forces? You'd have to play a lot past the first few levels in order to get to those zones and remember them.
To respond to the first part of the comment which came out of the playbook of every fanboy who claims Sonic is for kids, I fail to see how not being like Killzone or Doom makes something cartoony. As I've said, we've had more mature shit still have colorful shit, or even for that matter, colorful games that were still balanced. The argument is pretty much "If it's colorful, that means it's cartoony and just for kids, and if you don't think so you're taking it too seriously!"
Secondly, well that one isn't much to argue against since the argument is clearly meant for people who constantly drone about green hill zone and nothing else about the classics, not the people who actually make the games, but Clone Warrior seems to be a master of mental gymnastics.
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artdj7 [2020-02-23 00:31:20 +0000 UTC]
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Rb1996 [2018-04-03 10:22:03 +0000 UTC]
One thing I never get is people that say that sonic is totally wacky when the only really wacky thing in the classics are the Spezial stages which are an alternative dimension that makes no sense and is alien even to the Characters in the series is self.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to Rb1996 [2018-04-08 15:21:58 +0000 UTC]
And I recently just had 2 comments claiming he was light hearted or cute.
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FrancisJeremyXavyer [2018-03-12 16:50:30 +0000 UTC]
Ha! If Light and Dark colors mean a light or dark game, then Assassin's Creed is perfect for kids! Blood, death, murder, sex, betrayal...you know, for kids!
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to FrancisJeremyXavyer [2018-03-13 07:17:14 +0000 UTC]
Kids are usually playing M rated games anyway, it's a known fact most kids don't like kids games because of how lame almost all of them are. The only popular series for kids are the lego games, and contrary to Nintendo's fame, their sales have been lagging on all fronts for years save a few times they could sell something.
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Giygasonic [2018-03-12 06:52:06 +0000 UTC]
Pssh! Two games I know that are M-Rated and colorful compared to their sequels;
Mortal Kombat 9 and Dead Rising 2.
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GrandMetroViper [2018-03-11 17:27:40 +0000 UTC]
I think even Mania understands the idea of bright in colorful doesn't male things auto light. Colors do set the mood but can also be the recipe for disaster just look at Forces and you see the idea of the darker atmosphere is rather generic and artificial. Darkening up the color pallette also doesn't create a dark game.
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agast154 In reply to GrandMetroViper [2018-03-11 21:46:31 +0000 UTC]
I have to wonder why Green Hill Zone is always people's first impressions of Sonic anyway. I know that it was the very first zone in his first game, but this was the first Sonic Game I played and not once did I think about the light-hearted notion nor solely Green Hill in general.
Keep in mind I was 9 years old at that time.
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GrandMetroViper In reply to agast154 [2018-03-11 21:56:47 +0000 UTC]
They made Green Hill the first impressions of Sonic by pushing it as the first level of Sonic for a long time even though he's had more than just that idea for a starting level. I get that Sonic's big starting levels are usually a grassy beach or something but this dichotomy made it to where Green Hill IS what Sonic is supposed to be which is why most people are sick of seeing it.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to GrandMetroViper [2018-03-11 20:46:36 +0000 UTC]
Mania is made up of random classic stages, it's got nothing to do with understanding anything since every stage after the first was already balanced. Plus that game had memes and a "comedic" ending for Knuckles. Colors set's the mood? THere's comedy in every scene and Tails is being doubtful of shit he's been witnessing since his debut. Forces 1 dark stage was a city being attacked by robots, one of the few stages that actually had story elements happening within it, the others ones being fighting warships and the illusion of the sun about to hit the world. I'm also confused about this part because Forces also reused stages which takes up the majority of what you just praised Mania for.
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sonicdv In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2018-03-12 21:45:31 +0000 UTC]
Personally, I think that Mania did balance itself accordingly. I don't see a problem with optional memes that only hardcore fans are going to notice.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to sonicdv [2018-03-13 07:14:49 +0000 UTC]
You still can't really give it credit on that alone since it's levels still came from past classic games, and pretty much all of them are balanced so Mania will be by defualt.
Hardcore fans noticing the memes is the problem, they shouldn't be there period, and a lot of people have been said they were tired of them. The main ones still going by these memes are usually the same people bashing the series for anything non-classic in the first place.
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sonicdv In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2018-03-15 17:28:50 +0000 UTC]
I guess that is just me. I enjoy memes, but I don't think media should have them as the complete focus. Having them in the background as a quick joke is good though.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to sonicdv [2018-03-16 21:18:03 +0000 UTC]
Good for who though, and what impact is it having outside of the same groups of people liking or disliking them? It wouldn't even be that bad if the memes themselves were actually funny. It's just bad drawings and repeating phrases as far as the Sonic fandom goes.
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GrandMetroViper In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2018-03-11 20:54:49 +0000 UTC]
You are mistaken I didn't mean the game Colors I meant colors as in how a game looks my apologies but I thought I was clear when I talked about visuals.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to GrandMetroViper [2018-03-11 21:23:28 +0000 UTC]
"Colors do set the mood but can also be the recipe for disaster"
Sorry but you can easily interpret that as Sonic Colors without giving any detail but I see now. You meant the use of Colors then. Though I still don't see how Forces comes under criticism of this for it's 1 dark stage illustrating what was actually happening in the story. If we go by original stages then Forces still had a more balanced tone then either extreme, as well as Mania.
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GrandMetroViper In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2018-03-11 21:52:58 +0000 UTC]
I could have easily said
"Colors did set the mood but can also be the recipe for disaster"
Then the context there would have been the game I don't know why you were so confused by this. But I understand everything else you said.
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to GrandMetroViper [2018-03-12 01:09:07 +0000 UTC]
"Then the context there would have been the game I don't know why you were so confused by this."
I'm pretty sure I said Colors can be short for Sonic Colors, and a lot of times it is so I misread it.
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GrandMetroViper In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2018-03-12 01:11:19 +0000 UTC]
Then that's your issue not mine...I know what I typed
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Psyco-The-Frog In reply to GrandMetroViper [2018-03-12 03:33:34 +0000 UTC]
Where's that coming from? I didn't blame you for anything, I said I misread.
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GrandMetroViper In reply to Psyco-The-Frog [2018-03-12 03:47:23 +0000 UTC]
Where did I say I blamed you I just meant that you misreading was your own issue not my issue as I knew what I wrote.
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