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Published: 2015-06-28 05:21:42 +0000 UTC; Views: 3912; Favourites: 39; Downloads: 4
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Case in point, people wanted to change Sonic's character to make him more likable, when he's already likable, so taking away his original character would be pointless, which you can see here: fav.me/d6c5x9pRelated content
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add to the fact that characters with attitude have existed before the 90's like for example bugs bunny heck even mickey mouse in his earlier appearances had a bit of an attitude. so I don't see why he can't keep his attitude just because it was popular in the 90s as long as he keeps his other traits. 
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It's even worse when people act like being a cartoon also means it has to be childish. I'd like to know what cartoons these people were watching, because it wasn't just animaniacs and Sponge-bob. We had all kinds of animations, especially those with Super Heroes(Batman, Spider-man, anything from Marvel or DC really), and all those action cartoons that were mimicking TMNT, and there were a lot of them. If I hadn't brought it up yet, Sonic's attitude was actually inspired by TMNT.Β Matter of fact, I only just not realized I never posted that shit yet. I'll be up soon.
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yeah ninja turtles were also made before the 90s (although maybe they inspired the 90s love for attitude I don't know)Β
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They were made before the 90's but then many cartoons that mimicked them were made during the 90's. Also, attitude really is something that was around before the 90's anyway. There was a comment on youtube I recently read that said "attitude wasn't created and ended in the 90's' or something like that, but you get the gist. If anything, I've never stopped seeing attitude or the attraction to it as far as the media and normal folks are, it's a lot of these millennials trying to push messages and shit, acting like everything is an after school special.
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Sonic is not likeable in this comic. Period. He a perpetual manchild who is a mary sue that always gets his way. Oh and he always acts more like Shadow in being edgy.
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Yet,in Boom where he is a dumb ass,it's ok-_-?
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Sounds more like a personal problem son. Funny since you just told me in another comment that Sonic can't be taken seriously....
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Definitely. It just sucks that Flynn and the other guys at Archie Comics got kicked in the teeth by both penders and sega at the same time. It especially doesn't help that sega are purposefully trying to ruin Sonic because a.) nintendo is pretty much controlling them now, and b.) because even the people who RUN sega like mario more than Sonic because, well, they're japanese, obviously (Not being racist or anything, it's just that mario's UBER popular out there.), and c.) they're pride and lack of true understanding of fans who ACTUALLY care about Sonic (and also Japan's general lack of knowledge of the world outside of their country) clouds their judgement (I think). And instead of doing a smart thing, like say, giving the rights to Sonic to people who know what to PROPERLY do with him (like Flynn and the dudes (and ladies) at Archie, for example), they just keep on obeying their new masters (BECAUSE NINTENDO CONTROLS ALL MWAHAHAHA Β ) and fucking everything up on purpose for reasons that are absolutely ridiculous. Now if only sega would either give Sonic to someone else who would properly handle the series or at least make an effort to make better games, and stop trying to appease nintendo worshippers (not people who generally play nintendo games, but just people who think of them as gods). Anyway, Psyco, I'm glad you're one of the positive members of this series' fanbase. You're awesome dude.Β Β
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The problem with your argument is that nowadays Sonic is nothing but attitude. We don't want it taken away, we want stuff added that can give his character balance.
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And the problem with your argument is that you assume that Sonic is nothing but attitude. Both archie and Fleetway comics already added to his character, and the modern games and Boom just has him as either a self aware joker or just plain boring.
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I'm talking specifically about the Sonic from the games. His current personality stems from writers magnifying the confidence he displayed in the Classic era until he became the arrogant prick he is today. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Sonic's confidence, his "attitude" if you prefer, should be erased completely. However, it does need to be toned WAY down so other, more likeable aspects of his character can get some focus.
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"I'm talking specifically about the Sonic from the games. His current personality stems from writers magnifying the confidence he displayed in the Classic era until he became the arrogant prick he is today."
Yeah, Sonic wasn't hardly like that. Aside from wagging his finger and gesturing you to move, he wasn't a self aware joker.
"Don't get me wrong, I don't think Sonic's confidence, his "attitude" if you prefer, should be erased completely. However, it does need to be toned WAY down so other, more likeable aspects of his character can get some focus."
Then what was the point in taking the focus away from the comics, to say he needs to be toned down, to so something that was done in the comics. The fix is right there, even if it's not in the games. Plus, you should really look at Satam to see what Sonic's attitude was really like back then. What we're getting no is just bad writing, and hardly a display of attitude.
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"Yeah, Sonic wasn't hardly like that. Aside from wagging his finger and gesturing you to move, he wasn't a self aware joker."
At what point did I say that Sonic was always a self-aware joker? I clearly stated that he became one* over time, not that he was one from the start!
"Then what was the point in taking the focus away from the comics, to say he needs to be toned down, to so something that was done in the comics.The fix is right there, even if it's not in the games."
I have no idea what you're trying to say right now.
"Plus, you should really look at Satam to see what Sonic's attitude was really like back then. What we're getting no is just bad writing, and hardly a display of attitude."
I already know what Sonic was like in SatAM. If you ask me, the OVA portrayed him better.
*Technically my exact words were "arrogant prick," but whatever...
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"At what point did I say that Sonic was always a self-aware joker? I clearly stated that he became one* over time, not that he was one from the start!"
Yeah you're right. I'm still hung up on the other part about needing to change him to be cuter and such.
"I have no idea what you're trying to say right now."
I talked about Sonic's character in the comics, you said you're talking about the games, only to say Sonic's character needed to be changed, thereby going to the reason why I brought up the comics, you can just use his character from that.
"I already know what Sonic was like in SatAM. If you ask me, the OVA portrayed him better."
The OVA wasn't the portrayal that made Sonic popular though. Better then modern/Boom Sonic now, yes, but not the real deal either.
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"I talked about Sonic's character in the comics, you said you're talking about the games, only to say Sonic's character needed to be changed, thereby going to the reason why I brought up the comics, you can just use his character from that."
That's one possible solution, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Sonic is too relaxed for his overly high-strung Fleetway personality to work, and Archie Sonic has his (pr rather their) own share of problems.
"The OVA wasn't the portrayal that made Sonic popular though. Better then modern/Boom Sonic now, yes, but not the real deal either."
Perhaps the same could be said of all religions SatAM...
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"That's one possible solution, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea. Sonic is too relaxed for his overly high-strung Fleetway personality to work, and Archie Sonic has his (pr rather their) own share of problems."
What canon doesn't have any problems? The games are still a lotΒ worse off though.
"Perhaps the same could be said of all religions SatAM..."
Nah, Satam, the comics, and Fleetway is where most of Sonic's popularity lies, aside from the games, but other mediums did a better job of showing off Sonic's world, the games didn't do this till they went 3D.
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Fair enough, but I still think Sonic's ideal personality is a cross between SatBK, AoStH, and the OVA.
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For AostH, not really.
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Yeah, but the problem is with the writersΒ Graff and Pontac, like with the current SEGA, they don't understand what made the Sonic characters so interesting to begin with, leading up to some huge problems.
Those problems can all beΒ summedΒ up in Sonic Boom, a spin off that openly mocks the once great SonicΒ Franchise.
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This is what makes him more varied and interesting, and still with understandable character flaws. Which is another reason why I like him more.
Mario, well, what sort of "Wide Range of Characteristics" does he have? He's a Plumber? He fights monsters?
Another thing I should include in the whole "Mario is better than Sonic" argument.
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afraid to show their age, again. There is away to show it gracefully.Β
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Sadly,ever since Sega hired Graff and Pontac to "write" the games,Sonic got flanderized into a self obsessed jackass who doesn't shut the fuck up and continues to say stupid shit.
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Definetly. -___-
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Or in Sonic Boom, where he constantly looks bored and Eggman trying to befriend him.
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I really do like the 90's attitude of Sonic. By just changing it I dont know what could happen
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Tru tru... But that is a different universe but it does count into sega
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The archie comics are also a different universe and nobody said that when bashing it for being different. Case in point is, these are all Sonic canons in their own right, and Boom isn't that much different from the direction Sega has been pulling Sonic into since Colors.
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Tru one that part after all Sega just revealed that they have been betraying their fans or something on those lines. I just cant believe it happened for 10 YEARS STRAIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey, SEGA isn't blind to who handles their franchises. SEGA shares just as much blame due to the fact that they oversaw this project and APPROVED it in the first place. SEGA get's no free pass for this shit and they're just as responsible for fucking Sonic sideways like this.
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Agreed. Infact the idea of A new sonic franchise had lasted for three years without any publishing until late 2013 and early 2014.
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His personality hasn't been explored to the fullest in the modern games, even though they could with the improved character interaction. The modern comic version of Sonic could use a dimension, too.
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That's pretty much a given, but choosing to take away certain aspects and redesign him to be totally different from what made him cool in the first place, will just make it worse. Plus, the character interactions mean nothing when the writing isn't even good enough to care about it.
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Something some people were talking about on youtube. Read the description here: psyco-the-frog.deviantart.com/β¦
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I saw that video, most of his ideas are pretty relevant for following what MovieBob called "The Megaman Path," in this video. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YDrVR⦠But the design and personality really don't work. Sonic's a product of the 1990s, and while they're still recent enough that 20 to 30-somethings are embarrassed about them, eventually they're just be regarded as another time in history like the 1950s or 1980s. You couldn't do EC comics without elements of the 1950s and you couldn't do Devo without elements of the 1980s. And you couldn't do Sonic without elements of his 1990s persona.
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Technically, they already have. You see in Boom, Sonic has been heavily flanderizered and misunderstood in ways I didn't even think were possible. He is now an egotistical jerk who only cares about himself, likes ignoring his friends when they're in danger and never takes ANYTHING seriously. Granted, it seems the writers assume this is what the character is always like, but it still is heartbreaking to see.
I'm now actually kind of looking forward to Fire and Ice just to see how it ends Boom (regardless if it's meant to be the final or not, we all know it's going to be).
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Ah, I've heard of Sonic Boom but I haven't watched it. I'm more old school in terms of my Sonic fandom, I like the old cartoons and comics.
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Trust me, it's terrible. But thankfully, it's next game is going to be it's last and just in time for an actual Sonic game to be announced.
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There's too many to count at this point, but I have made several reviews of it realshow.deviantart.com/gallerβ¦
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