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Pulvis In reply to Itabia [2012-07-03 21:18:46 +0000 UTC]

thank you! i absolutely agree-the movie wasn't very enlightening but David as a character was worth every second. I think it's one of the most interesting screen characters that came up this year (at the very least).

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Itabia In reply to Pulvis [2012-07-04 21:21:28 +0000 UTC]

Yes, and one of the best performances too! :3

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Pulvis In reply to electroGARDEN [2012-06-10 10:30:05 +0000 UTC]

thank you for you comment! totally agree - David seemed like the only one who was actually alive and had a glimpse of thought and sensibility in his eyes unlike many other characters. At least, he had a plan! not just "oh, look there are some cool paintings of the walls, perhaps it's aliens, perhaps they can't wait to meet us because, you know, in all classy sci-fi movies aliens are likeable guys, nothing to worry about". What i liked the most is the irony that i think was a huge part of the movie plot - we see how dismissive humans are towards David, how carelessly they speak of him as something artificial and inhuman and then suddenly everyone is so surprised that our creators are as dismissive and uncaring towards us because to them we are the same thing as David to us - looks like us, talks like us but not US. And the greatest part is that David actually understands the irony of the situation better than humans. And at this point i want to believe that mayhaps this is what Ridley Scott wanted to show us throught David words asking - why do you think that people as species were created with some great purpose? you created me because you simply could do that, so why are you any different?
movie kind of evokes some interesting questions but the plot seems empty at times and, as you said, it lacks explanations here and there. Anyway, i really hope there will be a sequel because i REALLY want to learn about David and Shaw adventures (although if i were Shaw, i'd grab my things and run screaming back home to crawl under the bed never to see daylight again )

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electroGARDEN In reply to Pulvis [2012-06-11 08:46:31 +0000 UTC]

You know, that's a brilliant way of looking at Prometheus' storyline like that. The irony the humans experienced and how David really did understand that. That actually might me stop fence-sitting about this movie and just go with "liked it a lot" just for that point about David and the irony.

I agree that David would understand the irony. I have a feeling more sensible characters like Ripley or Hicks might understand that as much as David. I don't know, I kinda wished that there would have been at least one other sensible character that wasn't all "Yay, the aliens that left some weird message on Earth MUST BE our creators and MUST want us to find them so we can all be a happy family! Yay!" Well... actually, Fifeild and Vickers seemed more sensible compared to the others, but they got wasted, especially Vickers. She should have at least went down trying to fight or keep the Space Jockey busy instead getting squished by the ship. At least David is still around, that actually shocked me since he got his head ripped off. I thought he'd expire by the end of the movie, let's hope they keep him around if they have any more sequels because David is the best character, hands down.

Yeah, explanations and also just plain character development actually would helped enhance the plot. In the older Alien movies, there were certain down times between the characters that made you feel they were real and added that human connection. I think only one in this movie that got that was David (especially in the beginning and the times he interacted with the crew).
Yeah, I'd do the same thing and never look back, but knowing Dr. Shaw... Also, I felt she was little arrogant to want to find the creators and demand an explanation from them on why they would do this to humans (assuming humans were their creations). I mean, why does she feel the creators owe humans (and her) an explanation? They're the god-like creators, I don't they have to do any explaining at all... just like how humans don't really have any profound reasons why they created androids (just for the hell of it).

I think you just me like the movie even more for that David and the irony explanation there. I think back on the movie and I'm like why didn't I notice that before? Ah well, Prometheus has to be good enough (at least better than the AVP movies) if brings a person back with SOME positive speculation and reflections on it.

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Pulvis In reply to electroGARDEN [2012-06-11 14:18:07 +0000 UTC]

i suppose it's always the case when you dig a bit deeper into the plot because you really want to read something between the lines and see throught the surface. But when you actually do - it's like "is it just my projections or is it really there?" I'm not sure about the whole irony thing but it was the part that touched me and made me interested, so why not? As they say, each creation becomes complete only through it recipient
David maybe the wisest of them all because he's ditached from the situation - he's just an android with a programmed humanity, he doesn't honestly care about the aliens being human race creators, so perhaps he sees things clearly and objectively. The team is anxious and nervous, even Vickers, a seemingly cold-hearted character, is uneasy and stunned when they actually find something. So, we see that the team is somewhat too emotionally involved to judge the situation and see all the implications. David, however, is a bystander seeing this whole fathers-and-sons drama from a distance.
I too was very surprised to find out that David was alive. It's just so obvious when the best character in the whole movie dies or vanishes but it was a very nice change. Still, i wasn't as surprised with him being alive (or, well, functioning) as i was with Shaw's survival. How did she manage it while Vickers didn't? It all happened so quickly that for a moment i lost track of who ate who and who popped out of who and at what sequence
i completely agree with you on Shaw's arrogance in wanting to know the answers. It seems strange for a scientist to be as bold and as reckless. Basically, all they did was to find a bunch of drawings\paintings and whatnot and locate the planet without even giving it much thought. I mean - why creators? Why not a hostile race of gigantic spiders? And what kind of explanations does she expect to hear when she and her teammates are certainly not over-burdened with the questions of ethics and purpose of androids existance?
I suppose all sci-fi movies have flaws and maybe characters faults should exist, otherwise it'll all be dull. However, i do agree with you that there was no connection between characters. And i think that it's largely because in the beginning we got some "alone time" with David - we saw him as a character with personality, although it was so very clear that he isn't human. Then - there is a bunch of people who are so different and there are so many of them at once that we can't concentrate on at least one individual and we never actually get such a glimpse of their personalities as much as we did with the android. I wonder if that was on purpose

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electroGARDEN In reply to Pulvis [2012-06-12 02:08:05 +0000 UTC]

I agree, why not speculate and read things into the plot. It just makes the movie going experience for me all the more fun. I do it not just with bad or okay films, but even great ones. Hell, I even do it with video games and various other series.

Yes, the crew was really riding on the hype of meeting their "makers" so much they didn't really take time to sit down and think about what the implications as you said. So he really did have a better assessment of the situation than the actual scientists did. I like how Holloway was all angsty after they went through the first discovery, but didn't find any live aliens. What? Was he expecting fanfare and a celebration breaking out for them?

I was surprised with Shaw's survival as well. It was how she survived. I mean, you would think Vickers and her would both figure out that it's a good idea to move sideways out of the way of the horseshoe ship (especially good is that it's not a full disc, so when it falls to the side it won't actually hit them. That's why it's upsetting that they kind of wasted Vickers right there. I mean, if she's gonna die, at least give her a good death instead of just getting rolled over by the ship. I think she should have at least went down trying to fight off or distract the space jockey. I think her character at least deserves that. I mean, I keep hearing about how Shaw is like the new Ripley, but I'm not feeling it. She's no Ripley at all, she's got nothing on Ripley. Vickers is no Ripley either, but at least she pulls of the Ripley vibe better than Shaw does.

Certainly nothing wrong with "alone time" with David.

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Pulvis In reply to EngAbby [2012-06-09 17:02:18 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Can't recommend the film because my feelings are confused but it certainly is beautiful in some ways))

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Pulvis In reply to LadyBlacklight [2012-06-09 17:00:27 +0000 UTC]

Fassbender makes it worth watching! I found many things to far-fetched but David always came up with something curious so I enjoyed watching him))

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LadyBlacklight In reply to Pulvis [2012-06-14 15:27:33 +0000 UTC]

Yeah but he's kind of vicious in this movie too)

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Pulvis In reply to LadyBlacklight [2012-07-03 21:40:29 +0000 UTC]

well, ambiguous characters are always the most captivating

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LadyBlacklight In reply to Pulvis [2012-07-04 18:02:49 +0000 UTC]

agreeee *___*

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Pulvis In reply to DNDxRyuzaki [2012-06-09 16:57:51 +0000 UTC]

I can't wait to learn whether there will be the sond part featuring David!))) yeah, I liked the pilot too, he was the nicest person there, I think. And he was funny, it's really a shame that he had to die!
Thanks,glad you like the work^^

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