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Todyo1798 [2013-12-12 19:09:02 +0000 UTC]
Just a thought, but what would happen if a European expedition helped to crown a legit Sung claimant to All-Under-Heaven?
Assuming here that the Jin are a bunch of dickbutts who would be opposed to the smelly westerners on account of them being both Western and Christian, and would therefore be a likely target for future campaigns to dethrone them and put someone more amicable in place.
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QuantumBranching In reply to Todyo1798 [2013-12-19 05:13:00 +0000 UTC]
This assumes that the Europeans will by in a position to be kingmakers, which they won't be for quite a while: any European expedition to China in the 16th century would be swallowed like spit in the ocean, the logistics for delivering a first-rate army to east Asian soil really aren't there yet...the Southern Realm may be in a position to liberate at least part of China before the Europeans are. But a couple centuries down the road, once Europe has fully assimilated South Realmer technological advances and had it's equivalent of the OTL 17th century military revolution, the God-eating barbarians are going to be playing a much bigger role in East Asia and the Pacific.
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Todyo1798 In reply to QuantumBranching [2013-12-19 13:39:10 +0000 UTC]
Well obviously I'm thinking further into the future, and also if the Northern kingdom is so opposed to crossing the water, even to crush their long-term enemy, then they may be pretty backward technologically. Β Hence whilst the Southern realm would be really difficult once they have a stable population and resource base established, the Northern one may be as easy to mess with as OTL China.
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Goliath-Maps [2013-07-25 23:50:11 +0000 UTC]
What year is this? Are the Americas still going to be colonized by Europeans?
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QuantumBranching In reply to Goliath-Maps [2013-07-26 06:39:33 +0000 UTC]
1500s, and yes, but they will have competition...
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FieldMarshalPatton [2012-04-11 18:18:56 +0000 UTC]
What about the Americas? Any Chinese colonization there?
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QuantumBranching In reply to FieldMarshalPatton [2012-04-12 00:35:38 +0000 UTC]
Not yet, but as they get into conflict with Europeans, the Americas are likely to become a battlefield...
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Todyo1798 [2011-12-23 23:30:17 +0000 UTC]
I meant to ask, what exactly is the God-Eater war? The Chinese have a habit of having ridiculously over the top names, I assume it was a war with a Christian nation?
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QuantumBranching In reply to Todyo1798 [2011-12-24 07:01:39 +0000 UTC]
The Chinese have heard some muddled reports of Communion and have jumped to some unfortunate conclusions. It will be a couple of generations before they quite clear it up (and start figuring out the differences between the various groups of bulgy-eyed, big-nosed, foul-smelling sea-going ruffians showing up in the Indies and busily looting, extorting, etc. AKA opening up the East for trade and Christianity)
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Todyo1798 In reply to QuantumBranching [2011-12-24 10:45:18 +0000 UTC]
To be fair, I don't think a people who celebrate how their ancestors tortured their god to death by symbolically eating his flesh and drinking his blood are the sort of people you want to make enemies with.
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Thejboy88 [2011-12-13 09:00:34 +0000 UTC]
Interesting map.
The Chinese, according to many ancient histories, were master sailors and explorers back in the day, setting up trade routes and mapping out all along the Oceania region and along the South-Asian coastline. I;m actually rather surprised they DIDN'T colonise a lot of these places.
But then if they didn't, alt-history artists like you would have nothing to do.
Good map.
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QuantumBranching In reply to Thejboy88 [2011-12-16 04:44:00 +0000 UTC]
Well, they _did_ colonize, so to speak: there are millions of people of Chinese descent in SE Asia and Indonesia - it's just that the government usually thought Chinese should stay at home, farming and paying taxes rather than heading off to strange lands far from the graves of their ancestors, so it was always a sort of "private enterprise", small-scale thing...
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QuantumBranching In reply to Celestialhost [2011-12-12 20:47:47 +0000 UTC]
Any civilation that develops to a certain level of technological development will eventually invent the soap opera.
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mdc01957 [2011-12-12 03:46:18 +0000 UTC]
That's bound to give the Portuguese and Dutch some trouble down the line.
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QuantumBranching In reply to mdc01957 [2011-12-12 20:46:58 +0000 UTC]
Note my comment re the struggle for the trade of the seas and oceans...
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